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The Game Show Forum => Game Show Channels & Networks => Topic started by: Vahan_Nisanian on July 22, 2011, 12:57:28 AM
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Which one would it be? I would say Press Your Luck. Although I would be happy regardless of which episodes, I would much prefer if this time around, they show never before seen on GSN episodes.
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My first instinct was going to be PYL as well, but I think I would have to go with 70s/80s TPIR. The days of Johnny Olsen, Bob Barker at his prime, those pricing games that have long since left us, Janice and Holly...honestly, this was what I thought was the biggest treat when I first got to see GSN in the late '90s.
Even today, it still feels weird to have a Game Show Network without TPIR on it in any shape or form.
\same goes for J! and WOF, but I digress...
Anthony
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I wouldn't mind seeing the CBS run of TJW(1972-1975). Even if we saw the first few months of it a few years ago, I would like to see more of it just to see how it managed to survived in the 3 years it was on CBS before it disappeared & then reappearing in syndication starting in 1978.
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Moore TTTT.
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Tough call. Either LMAD or NYSI.
ETA: Or older J!.
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My first instinct was going to be PYL as well, but I think I would have to go with 70s/80s TPIR. The days of Johnny Olsen, Bob Barker at his prime, those pricing games that have long since left us, Janice and Holly...honestly, this was what I thought was the biggest treat when I first got to see GSN in the late '90s.
Even today, it still feels weird to have a Game Show Network without TPIR on it in any shape or form.
\same goes for J! and WOF, but I digress...
Anthony
I second that. I regret not liking old TPiR when I was a kid and it was on GSN.
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If we're only counting shows that don't air in any version, I'd go with Password. If we're allowing other versions of shows that are already on the schedule, I'd say $10/$20K Pyramid. Most of the ones already named would make my day if they came back, though.
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I'd go with TPIR. Air the hour-long eps. from the mid-70s to the early-90s, and call it Classic TPiR. A lot of the college kids could see how the show looked before they were born, even if it's just from the late-80s.
That's right folks...most college kids were now born in 1990 or later. You're welcome. :-)
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I would agree with TPiR. From episode 1 through the end of Barker's run, furs and all. Any honestly, why hasn't GSN just come out and operated a Classics channel? Leave the episodes in their entirety, including ticket and fee plugs. I want to hear the voices of Johnny-O, Kenny Williams, Gene Wood and Johnny Jacobs. Even Bill Wendell, Jack Clark and Bob Clayton.
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Any honestly, why hasn't GSN just come out and operated a Classics channel?
IMO...GSN isn't carried on enough 'basic' tiers to merit them needing a second channel. They don't have enough leverage to demand one. It would be cost-prohibitive to do so.
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I'd have to go with Break the Bank '76. It still pains me that they ran through Go three times, and yet only aired about a third of Break the Bank and never went back to it. I'd love to see the entire run just once.
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I loved "Sunday Night in Black and White" but since I can only pick one, I'll go with Password.
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Put me in the Barker TPIR camp as well, although I am under the impression GSN couldn't air them at the moment whether or not they wanted to.
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Gotta go with "$20,000 Pyramid." In addition to the fact that most of us probably missed the six months' worth that GSN showed 14 years ago, there's still another year and a half out there that I'm sure many of us would love to see for the first time -- or for the first time in over 30 years.
Brendan
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I would like to see 'Price'. More realistically I hope that Combs 'Feud' comes back.
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I'd go with Wheel, but this time, the daytime episodes. We probably wouldn't see many, if any, Woolery episodes, and Rolf's run would be a slim chance considering how he feels about his run on the show (Sorry, Mr. Raygor). But having just Sajak and/or Goen would be better than nothing at all.
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Rafferty Card Sharks. Enjoyed seeing the episodes again when they were on weekdays.
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GONG.
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If you're just asking for one, TJW syndie run, 1977-1986. But TTD would be a close second.
At one point I thought I remembered (could be totally wrong) reading that Sony owns the rights to these shows. What a great addition to the daytime lineup these would be. I digress.
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I'll go with tvmitch and choose The Joker's wild. Any era that GSN has shown. I'll be happy!!
One of the reason I wanted the channel in the first place!!
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Gotta go with "$20,000 Pyramid." In addition to the fact that most of us probably missed the six months' worth that GSN showed 14 years ago, there's still another year and a half out there that I'm sure many of us would love to see for the first time -- or for the first time in over 30 years.
Brendan
Me, too! The $20,000 Pyramid, for the same reason as Brendan's posting.
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I'll go with Twenty-One, truly underrated show, it's a shame NBC didn't treat it very well(they didn't even bother to advertise the final episode).
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truly underrated show
It would help your case around here a lot if you could come up with another adjective. Not every short-lived show that you happened to like needs to be described as "underrated".
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Considering that all the questinos were multiple choice (at least, all the ones I saw, which I found an immediate turn-off), I'd say the revival of Twenty-One is overrated.
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I'd go with Wheel, but this time, the daytime episodes. We probably wouldn't see many, if any, Woolery episodes, and Rolf's run would be a slim chance considering how he feels about his run on the show (Sorry, Mr. Raygor). But having just Sajak and/or Goen would be better than nothing at all.
I thought it was just a myth that Rolf hated his Wheel tenure.
I would have to go with Wheel too. I've heard about several interesting things (e.g. a contestant who solved the bonus puzzle BABY BOY with no letters showing, two categories in 1995-1996 that were only used once, etc.) that I would love to see firsthand.
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truly underrated show
It would help your case around here a lot if you could come up with another adjective. Not every short-lived show that you happened to like needs to be described as "underrated".
Ok then, how about underappreciated? I'd also like to see "Dog Eat Dog" return.
Paul D:Good news! Combs Family Feud IS in fact returning to GSN, not sure when exactly, but it's happening!
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truly underrated show
It would help your case around here a lot if you could come up with another adjective. Not every short-lived show that you happened to like needs to be described as "underrated".
Ok then, how about underappreciated?
<sigh>
Honestly trying to help here, how about "a show I liked more than most people did"?
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Combs Family Feud IS in fact returning to GSN, not sure when exactly, but it's happening!
Just like I'm sure politicians will stop acting like a bunch of three year olds. Not sure when, exactly, but it's happening!
Seriously, though, on what basis do you claim this? Are you privy to some sort of scheduling information the general population is unaware of? Does a credible news source report this? Did your bowling buddy's third cousin Elmo have a few drinks with a GSN executive? Source, please.
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Gee, thanks vexer6, for ruining this thread! Everything was going good, until you showed!
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Gee, thanks vexer6, for ruining this thread! Everything was going good, until you showed!
Really? (http://"http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_wAxDMfEGhoY/TSPwVvmmCPI/AAAAAAAAAYk/EVziTMTini0/s1600/Not%2BSure%2Bif%2Bserious.jpg")
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Combs Family Feud IS in fact returning to GSN, not sure when exactly, but it's happening!
Just like I'm sure politicians will stop acting like a bunch of three year olds. Not sure when, exactly, but it's happening!
Seriously, though, on what basis do you claim this? Are you privy to some sort of scheduling information the general population is unaware of? Does a credible news source report this? Did your bowling buddy's third cousin Elmo have a few drinks with a GSN executive? Source, please.
Here's where I got the info from
http://www.ask.com/wiki/List_of_programs_broadcast_by_Game_Show_Network
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Combs Family Feud IS in fact returning to GSN, not sure when exactly, but it's happening!
Just like I'm sure politicians will stop acting like a bunch of three year olds. Not sure when, exactly, but it's happening!
Seriously, though, on what basis do you claim this? Are you privy to some sort of scheduling information the general population is unaware of? Does a credible news source report this? Did your bowling buddy's third cousin Elmo have a few drinks with a GSN executive? Source, please.
Here's where I got the info from
http://www.ask.com/wiki/List_of_programs_broadcast_by_Game_Show_Network
So, a Wikipedia article with no sources. Good job.
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Here's where I got the info from
http://www.ask.com/wiki/List_of_programs_broadcast_by_Game_Show_Network
Pity you cannot read:
[quote name='FTFA']List of Past Game Shows[/quote]
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Pity you cannot read:
For the infinity +1 problems I have with that source, it actually does list Ray Combs' Family Feud, along with a few other shows, in a section marked "Upcoming and Future Shows".
That said, as a helpful hint for future reference, random lists o' stuff from Wikipedia are often about as reliable a source of information as information gleaned from your uncle's second cousin's co-worker at the swap meet. In fact, I'd argue that depending on the subject you'd gain more accurate information by consulting a Magic 8-ball.
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For the infinity +1 problems I have with that source, it actually does list Ray Combs' Family Feud, along with a few other shows, in a section marked "Upcoming and Future Shows".
Oh, fair enough. Pity I cannot read, then.
That said, as a helpful hint for future reference, random lists o' stuff from Wikipedia are often about as reliable a source of information as information gleaned from your uncle's second cousin's co-worker at the swap meet. In fact, I'd argue that depending on the subject you'd gain more accurate information by consulting a Magic 8-ball.
This, this, a heaping helping of this.
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Considering that all the questinos were multiple choice (at least, all the ones I saw, which I found an immediate turn-off), I'd say the revival of Twenty-One is overrated.
Given that the questions on Millionaire were multiple choice, I didn't find 21's use of them egregious. I did find their use of easy-like-pie toss-ups as tiebreakers to be egregious. The other problem I had was for the amount of money being thrown around on the show, I was hoping for some weightier material.
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The other problem I had was for the amount of money being thrown around on the show, I was hoping for some weightier material.
I believe this is the problem re: multiple choice: When your first game, your very first game, is for One Hundred Thousand Damn Dollars, anything multiple choice is not weighty enough pretty much by definition.
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I believe this is the problem re: multiple choice: When your first game, your very first game, is for One Hundred Thousand Damn Dollars, anything multiple choice is not weighty enough pretty much by definition.
I understand and accept that, but I also think that Millionaire is able to walk that tightrope some of the time, but when your question material seems to come more from the supermarket checkout magazines than from National Geographic or Scientific American, then it becomes more apparent. Less money, better material and who was the ad wizard that came up with the audience vote to pick the incoming challenger?
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I believe this is the problem re: multiple choice: When your first game, your very first game, is for One Hundred Thousand Damn Dollars, anything multiple choice is not weighty enough pretty much by definition.
I understand and accept that, but I also think that Millionaire is able to walk that tightrope some of the time, but when your question material seems to come more from the supermarket checkout magazines than from National Geographic or Scientific American, then it becomes more apparent. Less money, better material and who was the ad wizard that came up with the audience vote to pick the incoming challenger?
I agree that the questions were a tad too easy, the 11 point questions weren't much harder then the mid-tiear questions on Millionare, one 11 point question was "Which two movies did Julia Roberts NOT appear in?" that should've been at most a 5-6 point question.
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I understand and accept that, but I also think that Millionaire is able to walk that tightrope some of the time,
The difference is that on Millionaire in order to see a six-figure question, you first had to correctly answer eleven questions before it. (Admittedly, they turned the first five into a joke, but that still leaves five more.) How often did a game of Twenty-One go four rounds, much less five?
who was the ad wizard that came up with the audience vote to pick the incoming challenger?
It was a gimmick, and I assure you 99.999% of the folks at home don't give one single tin rip how the next player is selected. So most people go "meh, who cares" and a few go "hey, that's different."
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The difference is that on Millionaire in order to see a six-figure question, you first had to correctly answer eleven questions before it. (Admittedly, they turned the first five into a joke, but that still leaves five more.)
I thought the last pre-Shuffle money ladder made the first tier ($500-$1,000-$2,000-$3,000-$5,000) less of a joke...although admittedly, the increase was likely done so contestants would have more incentive to walk away or let time expire.
(The current money amounts are almost the same as that money ladder, except that $7,500 became $7,000 and $12,500 became...$100.)
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I'd like to see Peter Marshall's Hollywood Squares back, even though GSN says the ratings were bad and viewers didn't know the celebs. They didn't know Paul Lynde, Rose Marie and Vincent Price but they know Brett Somers, Joyce Bulifant and Bill Daily from Match Game - yeah right.
Besides, some of those jokes on Squares were classics!
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They didn't know Paul Lynde, Rose Marie and Vincent Price but they know Brett Somers, Joyce Bulifant and Bill Daily from Match Game - yeah right.
Aside from their appearances on HS, I can tell you exactly one thing Vincent Price did: Voice a character on The 13 Ghosts of Scooby-Doo. I have no clue what the others did outside of HS.
Face it--the ratings sucked and aside from an occasional one-liner, the show was slow and boring. In comparison, Match Game moves much faster.
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They didn't know Paul Lynde, Rose Marie and Vincent Price but they know Brett Somers, Joyce Bulifant and Bill Daily from Match Game - yeah right.
Aside from their appearances on HS, I can tell you exactly one thing Vincent Price did: Voice a character on The 13 Ghosts of Scooby-Doo. I have no clue what the others did outside of HS.
Face it--the ratings sucked and aside from an occasional one-liner, the show was slow and boring. In comparison, Match Game moves much faster.
Really? (http://"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOnqjkJTMaA")
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They didn't know Paul Lynde, Rose Marie and Vincent Price but they know Brett Somers, Joyce Bulifant and Bill Daily from Match Game - yeah right.
Aside from their appearances on HS, I can tell you exactly one thing Vincent Price did: Voice a character on The 13 Ghosts of Scooby-Doo. I have no clue what the others did outside of HS.
I will grudgingly accept that there is a younger generation who doesn't know who ANY of these people are, but the original point that the first three are more famous than the second three is absolutely right, and the limits of your personal pop culture awareness doesn't change that.
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They didn't know Paul Lynde, Rose Marie and Vincent Price but they know Brett Somers, Joyce Bulifant and Bill Daily from Match Game - yeah right.
Aside from their appearances on HS, I can tell you exactly one thing Vincent Price did: Voice a character on The 13 Ghosts of Scooby-Doo. I have no clue what the others did outside of HS.
Face it--the ratings sucked and aside from an occasional one-liner, the show was slow and boring. In comparison, Match Game moves much faster.
Really? (http://"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOnqjkJTMaA")
Vincent Price was a star for ten years before House of Wax, and all people remember is the schlocky horror (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhXrZOWdqFQ&feature=related). :-(
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They didn't know Paul Lynde, Rose Marie and Vincent Price but they know Brett Somers, Joyce Bulifant and Bill Daily from Match Game - yeah right.
Aside from their appearances on HS, I can tell you exactly one thing Vincent Price did: Voice a character on The 13 Ghosts of Scooby-Doo. I have no clue what the others did outside of HS.
Face it--the ratings sucked and aside from an occasional one-liner, the show was slow and boring. In comparison, Match Game moves much faster.
Really? (http://"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOnqjkJTMaA")
Vincent Price was a star for ten years before House of Wax, and all people remember is the schlocky horror (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhXrZOWdqFQ&feature=related). :-(
I think it's This TV (some weird DTV sub channel of MyNetwork TV here in Philadelphia) that was doing Thursday Night Price or something along those lines. With that (and the Internet) I took a shining to House on Haunted HIll, Laura and Wilson. I just picked a pop-culture lay-up, if you will.
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I don't get why so many people should be hugely turned off if the celebrity game show has celebrities that, to them, have little to no name recognition at all. I didn't know the majority of the celebrities on both 80s' Pyramid editions when I first started watching them, but that didn't keep me from enjoying them.
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I don't get why so many people should be hugely turned off if the celebrity game show has celebrities that, to them, have little to no name recognition at all. I didn't know the majority of the celebrities on both 80s' Pyramid editions when I first started watching them, but that didn't keep me from enjoying them.
This.
And besides, (rhetorically) how many of today's supposedly high-wattage celebrities are even bright enough in their mental capacities to be able to entertain/play the game as well as could most of the "no-names" of the past (or even present, should TBS's Pyramid go forward*)?
*About a month ago, after several weeks of problematic reception (most likely due to the warm humid weather and the leaves on the trees between our house and the TV towers in Huntsville, AL), my dad finally bit the bullet and subscribed to Dish Network so we could receive more reliable TV service (at least during non-stormy weather); thus I will now be able to watch Pyramid should it go to series (I still won't get GSN except if/when Dish offers a free preview of it sometime).
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I don't get why so many people should be hugely turned off if the celebrity game show has celebrities that, to them, have little to no name recognition at all. I didn't know the majority of the celebrities on both 80s' Pyramid editions when I first started watching them, but that didn't keep me from enjoying them.
This.
And besides, (rhetorically) how many of today's supposedly high-wattage celebrities are even bright enough in their mental capacities to be able to entertain/play the game as well as could most of the "no-names" of the past (or even present, should TBS's Pyramid go forward*)?
I find that fairly insulting. There's a huge difference between high-wattage celebrities who have high mental capacities, and high-wattage celebrities who want to play the game.
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I find that fairly insulting.
Congratulations on achieving your high-wattage celebrity!
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In an effort to bring this topic back to what it was supposed to be, I know my choice of classic PYL is obvious, but after burning some early 80's Joker episodes for someone who happened to be a friend of the contestant on the shows, I got a big soft spot growing for it again.
Price, would be great, but forget it. I fear even after Bob leaving us, his estate will probably hand some edict down blocking it or something.
Classic Squares still surprised me that it didn't fly. Eh, what can you do. I wouldn't mind it, though.
The main key, I think, is that no matter which of these it was, it would have to be something different from the classics on the sked now. So while other variations of Feud, Card and Pyramid might be nice, it wouldn't have the same punch (especially in Feud's case).
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I can't imagine Bob's estate doing that. Can animals hand down edicts?
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Price, would be great, but forget it. I fear even after Bob leaving us, his estate will probably hand some edict down blocking it or something.
Is the fact that TPIR isn't on GSN now Barker's call at all? I thought it was strictly Fremantle that was blocking it ("as long as CBS is airing it," I seem to recall hearing). Besides - I am under the impression that the ban applied to the Cullen episodes as well, and what say would Barker have in those?
Maybe Bob can have his estate prevent airing the episodes with furs? (Can an estate put a general block on airing TV shows with someone in it, the way it (presumably) can block using the person's likeness in commercials (a certain Halloween episode of The Simpsons notwithstanding)?)
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I'd like to see Peter Marshall's Hollywood Squares back, even though GSN says the ratings were bad and viewers didn't know the celebs. They didn't know Paul Lynde, Rose Marie and Vincent Price but they know Brett Somers, Joyce Bulifant and Bill Daily from Match Game - yeah right.
Besides, some of those jokes on Squares were classics!
Maybe if they ran ads selling the point that "Charley Weaver" is Patricia, Rosanna, and David Arquette's grandfather?
Paul Lynde and Rose Marie aren't as popular now as some of us older GSNoids here might expect, as nobody airs weekday reruns of Bewitched or The Dick van Dyke Show like they did "in our day". ("Who's that in the upper left square?" "Wally Cox." "Who's he?" "Well, among other things, he was the voice of Underdog." "You mean that stupid movie with the superhero dog?" "No, the cartoon series." "Underdog was a cartoon?")
Another possible reason: how dated are some of the HS questions? (Then again, MG didn't exactly stay away from "current events" - I remember a question that involved Evel Knievel and ended something like "Evel hit him with a (blank)", and while the contestant said "motorcycle," pretty much every celebrity said "baseball bat" (a reference to him going after the author of a biography with one).)
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Paul Lynde and Rose Marie aren't as popular now as some of us older GSNoids here might expect, as nobody airs weekday reruns of Bewitched or The Dick van Dyke Show like they did "in our day".
Who's Rose Marie?
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I don't care if the questions are dated or not. I just enjoy the show for what it is.
And what does a Halloween episode of The Simpsons have to do with a person's likeness being blocked? And which season was it?
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I don't care if the questions are dated or not. I just enjoy the show for what it is.
I guess most people our age would get the reference in the dated questions, while younger viewers wouldn't necessarily know that they were talking about. I wonder if that's one reason why '70s (and seemingly more) '80s sitcoms aren't repeated that much anymore. Classics like All in the Family come to mind that are very dated because they discussed a lot of issues relavent to the mid-late '70s. When TVLand first went on the air, their lineup was full of these type of shows. Now, not so much - them, or Nick at Nite.
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I'm a younger viewer, and I don't care if it's dated or not.
Did the "dated material" keep me from enjoying the B&E trifecta? Of course not.
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I'm a younger viewer, and I don't care if it's dated or not.
Did the "dated material" keep me from enjoying the B&E trifecta? Of course not.
You are one viewer that likes a certain type of show. However, years of empirical data show that viewers prefer to watch something else, as almost any network that has tried to work only off nostalgia (VH1 Classic, TVLand, Cartoon Network, etc.) realized that it is not a long-term winning strategy and either changed their focus (VH1 Classic), skewed to a smaller time frame (TV Land) or had enough clout to start another network (Boomerang). GSN's job is to make money, and maximizing viewership is a key part of that equation. GSN has tried #1 a bit (and for the most part failed), #2 more so (and has proven to be somewhat successful) and #3 would not be tenable since DirecTV doesn't own any other channels that would be thrown in as an afterthought inside a much larger contract.
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The problem with Marshall's HSq was that, despite the rareness of it all, the episodes were just plain dull IMO. The fact that Bergeron's faster-paced version was still airing in first-run prolly made it look even slower by comparison.
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The problem with Marshall's HSq was that, despite the rareness of it all, the episodes were just plain dull IMO. The fact that Bergeron's faster-paced version was still airing in first-run prolly made it look even slower by comparison.
In hindsight, it's interesting to consider what made the 70s Match Game such a big hit for GSN while the 70s Hollywood Squares flopped. What I keep coming back to is that Squares insisted on taking its dumb tic-tac-toe game seriously, while Match Game realized they didn't have much of a game and amped up the humor accordingly. Peter Marshall has been quoted frequently about how his role was to keep the game moving. It also couldn't have helped much that each star was trapped in his own little box. Sure, the show had a long list of (mostly scripted) 'zingers' it could point to, but very little in the way of spontaneous humor. Match Game was all about spontaneous humor.
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I'll take Elke Sommer to block.
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And what does a Halloween episode of The Simpsons have to do with a person's likeness being blocked? And which season was it?
Season 20's "Treehouse of Horror XIX" had a story called "How to Get Ahead in Dead-vertising"; Homer killed celebrities because "you can use dead celebrities in commercials without paying anybody." I'm fairly certain this is not really the case (except for Presidents of the USA, whose likenesses are public domain).
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(except for Presidents of the USA, whose likenesses are public domain).
"First we'd heard!" (http://"http://www.100xr.com/100_XR/Artists/P/Presidents_Of_The_United_States_Of_America/The.Presidents.Of.The.United.States.Of.America-band-2004.jpg")
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See, that's the difference. Presidents of the USA are in the public domain. The Presidents of the United States of America isn't.
OB Game Show: TPOTUS did "Cleveland Rocks" for the theme of The Drew Carey Show. Drew Carey is a game show host.
And as for the other comment, I agree MG was looser, although there were some classic lines from HS.
My wife still wonders why Gene Rayburn's microphone kept getting longer the longer the show ran.
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"Hollywood Squares" has never been a favorite show of mine, even in the Marshall years. I preferred "Blankety Blanks"
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I preferred "Blankety Blanks"
The Bill Cullen version (as opposed to the UK version of MG)?
Was it just me, or did that show repeat questions? I seem to recall hearing this one twice (once with a correct answer, and once with an incorrect one):
"At the 1972 Munich Olympics, they had to put extra chlorine in the pool because (blankety blank)"
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Is the fact that TPIR isn't on GSN now Barker's call at all? I thought it was strictly Fremantle that was blocking it ("as long as CBS is airing it," I seem to recall hearing). Besides - I am under the impression that the ban applied to the Cullen episodes as well, and what say would Barker have in those?
Maybe Bob can have his estate prevent airing the episodes with furs? (Can an estate put a general block on airing TV shows with someone in it, the way it (presumably) can block using the person's likeness in commercials (a certain Halloween episode of The Simpsons notwithstanding)?)
I was referring to the furs thing primarily. That is I could see Bob having such episodes kept off the table, including the premiere that everyone would give their right ________ for (wrong show, but I don't care).
But as far as the current Price goes, the idea that not airing the classic version because you don't want the current version to be affected by comparison is baffling. I mean, why doesn't Feud have this same issue? Dawson hasn't had a negative impact on Karn, O'Hurley or even Harvey now? And no, syndication shouldn't have to be an excuse. It's a double standard by Fremantle here... and I really hate double standards.
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I preferred "Blankety Blanks"
The Bill Cullen version (as opposed to the UK version of MG)?
Yes. All ten weeks of it.
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I preferred "Blankety Blanks"
The Bill Cullen version (as opposed to the UK version of MG)?
Yes. All ten weeks of it.
IIRC, Anne Meara was on the first and final week of that Bob Stewart extravaganza. It was cute but being on against Squares didn't help and Stewart did his usual tinkering with the format every other week. Cullen got the last laugh - he got a paycheck out of it.
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But as far as the current Price goes, the idea that not airing the classic version because you don't want the current version to be affected by comparison is baffling. I mean, why doesn't Feud have this same issue? Dawson hasn't had a negative impact on Karn, O'Hurley or even Harvey now? And no, syndication shouldn't have to be an excuse. It's a double standard by Fremantle here... and I really hate double standards.
At some point during the O' Hurley era, I remember there had to have been at least 10 episodes of Feud on each weekday, considering the double run in syndication, the Pax/Ion reruns, and the Classic Feud on GSN. Unless I'm missing something, this is high risk cannibalization right here.
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I noticed many people are quick to blame Les Moonves/Fremantle/CBS as the main reason we're not seeing classic TPIR. To be honest, I don't think neither of them remotely care if it's on GSN or not. I think the real blame lies with Barker and Barker alone.
I wish Chris Mann's book would come out already. What happened to it? He said he'd have it ready by this year. What's taking him so long? The truth about Barker needs to come out this instant, people need to stop being spoon-fed his lies and his hypocrisy.
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The truth about Barker needs to come out this instant, people need to stop being spoon-fed his lies and his hypocrisy.
Unless you have verifiable proof (and you don't), then you need to get it clear that "what you believe to be the truth" and "the truth" aren't necessarily the same thing.
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Price, would be great, but forget it. I fear even after Bob leaving us, his estate will probably hand some edict down blocking it or something.
Is the fact that TPIR isn't on GSN now Barker's call at all? I thought it was strictly Fremantle that was blocking it ("as long as CBS is airing it," I seem to recall hearing). Besides - I am under the impression that the ban applied to the Cullen episodes as well, and what say would Barker have in those?
ISTR the CBS affiliates didn't want to allow same day reruns because it would adversely affect their noon news ratings. Which is why it took so long for SoapNet to get Y&R same day replays.
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I'd go with 'The Joker's Wild' as well. I'd like to see the episodes beyond Mar. 1973, when GSN pulled it from the Sunday night at 11:30pm schedule years ago. I'd also would like to see the remainder of the 1978 $100,000 Tournament which was also abruptly replaced with the CBS episodes. I miss Jack Barry's corny jokes. My all-time favorite joke he told was when he interviewed a female contestant who was a camera salesman.
Jack: "You sell cameras? A long time ago, I used to date a woman who sold cameras, but never quite developed." (audience moans) "I shutter to think about it to this day." (audience moans louder)
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Rock and Roll Jeopardy. I assume that "music rights issues" mean we'll probably never see it again. :(
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Rock and Roll Jeopardy. I assume that "music rights issues" mean we'll probably never see it again. :(
I may be way off here, but for some reason, I don't particularly remember there being a crazy number of audio clips used on the show.
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Given the economics of it all, Matt, "one" is a crazy number when it comes to DVD distribution. Any reason it would be different here? I'm not privy to how things like sample length would affect licensing, so I am curious.