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I think it's tricky to do Squares in a show by show basis because unless you go to town on the edit machine it's going to be tricky to play it as a race to three, you're losing either the jokes or the game play.

In a different discussion, I realized that showing the natural match to a wild card on Concentration never bumped me, because I grew up with the Trebek version.
Same, and I get what you mean.

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Similarly, playing Hollywood Squares to time has never bothered me, perhaps because my first exposures to it were all syndicated episodes that played that way. I think the last year of H2 was pretty fun, but it had more to do with the show settling into a different groove a'la Match Game in the '79-'82 syndie run. Moving to a best-of-3 match was part of the recipe, of course, but I don't think that lit a fire under everything else.

TL;DR, I think how they decide to score the Hollywood Squares gameplay should be lower on the priority list.
Sure, I also get why each square was worth cash in the more recent versions to the point that it outshadowed actually winning the individual rounds. My point is always to warn against ignoring game play too much. For as paper-thin as the game was, Match Game offered up to $20,000 towards the end and the contestants deserve the best chance they can have to get to the end.

/nobody is watching After Midnight for the points; the jokes are the framework, not the other way around.
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The Big Board / Re: Shaq to co-host new game show for ABC
« Last post by JasonA1 on Today at 06:50:56 PM »
Yet the original version is still my favorite because the contestant selection process was pretty much random -- as long as you got past the phone tests and pony up the money for the phone calls.  Real.  Genuine.  Personalities.

There's a more difficult toothpaste to put back in the tube, though, regarding civilians. The amounts of money at play were novel in 1999, and people's opportunity for exposure and fame were far less. With the growth of social media, more and more people are comfortable being a version of themselves that's turned up to 11, regardless of how they're being produced. Even if the process for regular contestants were to become more like the original, I think culture has shifted so much, you wouldn't notice as big a difference as you're hoping for.

That said, Neumms actually framed it the right way for me. If you lean into the phone game (or its 2024 technological equivalent), it could very well increase engagement and interest for the audience.

-Jason
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I'd say Fox.....I believe they started the crazes of excessive pregnant pause before reveals, and spoiler scenes going into commercials.
IIRC the pregnant pauses was NBC starting with Deal or No Deal, although I also remember them interrupting the big moment with a cut to commercial on Fear Factor. I believe you're right about Fox's spoiler scenes and the "You won't believe what happened next!" teases.

And to answer rebel's question, I vote NBC.
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The Big Board / Re: Hollywood Squares with Drew Barrymore coming in 2025
« Last post by JasonA1 on Today at 06:47:49 PM »
I think it's tricky to do Squares in a show by show basis because unless you go to town on the edit machine it's going to be tricky to play it as a race to three, you're losing either the jokes or the game play.

In a different discussion, I realized that showing the natural match to a wild card on Concentration never bumped me, because I grew up with the Trebek version. Similarly, playing Hollywood Squares to time has never bothered me, perhaps because my first exposures to it were all syndicated episodes that played that way. I think the last year of H2 was pretty fun, but it had more to do with the show settling into a different groove a'la Match Game in the '79-'82 syndie run. Moving to a best-of-3 match was part of the recipe, of course, but I don't think that lit a fire under everything else.

TL;DR, I think how they decide to score the Hollywood Squares gameplay should be lower on the priority list.

-Jason
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The sane network

Ok, I think CBS has earned that title. So, which network earns the opposite title?

/Please don't edit the original post.  That was funny.

I'd say Fox.  I know they've cranked out the most primetime shows over the years, but I believe they started the crazes of excessive pregnant pause before reveals, and generous spoiler scenes going into commercials.
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I will point out that Bob would have been just fifty I think when he started, and Drew I think in his forties. I'm just more annoyed by the "paging Mr. X" posts when it's just been announced. I'm quite happy to let the news come as it does. They'll do what they'll do. I think it's tricky to do Squares in a show by show basis because unless you go to town on the edit machine it's going to be tricky to play it as a race to three, you're losing either the jokes or the game play.

I think Craig would be marvelous at center, though you stand a good chance of him outshining the other eight.
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The sane network

Ok, I think CBS has earned that title. So, which network earns the opposite title?

Whichever cable news network runs opposite your personal political views.

I dunno if enough water has passed under the bridge, but maybe Whoopi in the center square?

Interesting as a thought exercise, although there's obviously no chance of it happening here, what with Whoopi holding court on an ABC show.

Which makes me wonder how much star power will be on display. Does CBS view this as a cross-promotional opportunity? If daytime star Drew Barrymore is in the center square, I'm guessing the lead actors from CBS's prime time lineup won't want to be put in a corner. Can CBS convince Drew Carey and/or Wayne Brady to do Hollywood Squares? (Drew Carey recently did After Midnight, so maybe?)

Other than Alec Baldwin, ABC's Match Game didn't boast A-list celebrities, so if the emphasis is on the comedy, then stacking the grid with lesser-known but very funny people would be the way to go. I'm sure CBS also doesn't want this to turn into "larger Funny You Should Ask."
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I’d put Drew up in Rose Marie’s square not Lynde’s, but maybe that’s just me.

For kicks, who are some names that might do well in the center square or a corner? I’d say Craig Ferguson has the chops. Was Nick Cannon good on Hip-Hop Squares? He’d have broad appeal.
For corner squares, it's been a few @fter Midnight guests who would do well IMO, not to mention Taylor Tomlinson. Thomas Lennon and Lisa Ann Walter come to mind, Weird Al, Wayne Brady, Drew Carey are a few others. I dunno if enough water has passed under the bridge, but maybe Whoopi in the center square?
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The sane network

Ok, I think CBS has earned that title. So, which network earns the opposite title?

/Please don't edit the original post.  That was funny.
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