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Title: The Line - seen on GSN 12/23
Post by: BillCullen1 on December 24, 2014, 10:43:53 AM
So did anybody see this? Simple enough format. Answer eight true or false questions correctly and you win money. I thought it was okay.
Title: Re: The Line - seen on GSN 12/23
Post by: Matt Ottinger on December 24, 2014, 01:23:07 PM
I'm afraid I didn't think much of it.  Since there's so little to the game, they have to draw that "delayed reveal" nonsense out to almost satirical levels.  Players were pretty uniformly dim, but the questions were so easy that the jackpot never really got into interesting levels.  I don't think anybody won more than $20,000, which means that they never went more than ten players without a win.  And of course it was so heavily edited that you never got the sense of any real continuing drama. 

It's a cute stunt to play games on location, and that might be enough to keep it going, but it's not something I'll watch.
Title: Re: The Line - seen on GSN 12/23
Post by: Marc412 on December 25, 2014, 09:13:02 AM
Well, if they ever come to the Philly area, I'll definitely give it a go. :)
Title: Re: The Line - seen on GSN 12/23
Post by: TLEberle on December 25, 2014, 09:59:17 AM
What's the format? Is there more to it than the quiz questions and jackpot at the end? How large is the jackpot, and by what interval does it grow when somebody fails to claim it?
Title: Re: The Line - seen on GSN 12/23
Post by: Marc412 on December 25, 2014, 10:29:50 AM
Each player in turn will get a chance to enter the vault and answer up to eight true/false questions.   Each right answer adds $250 to a jackpot that starts at zero and grows until someone gets all 8 right in a row.  One wrong answer sends the player out with nothing but fond memories and whatever swag they hand out, and the next player in line gets a shot.

While you're waiting in line, you could get called on to win a prize or play a game that'll either send you to the front of the line or the back.

(Edited to clarify that the pot rolls over until someone wins it and the losers don't exactly leave empty-handed.)
Title: Re: The Line - seen on GSN 12/23
Post by: BrandonFG on December 25, 2014, 12:56:11 PM
What's the difficulty level of the questions? I know you can only do so much with true/false, but is it at least common knowledge?
Title: Re: The Line - seen on GSN 12/23
Post by: Marc412 on December 25, 2014, 01:21:42 PM
Yeah, it's random general knowledge and pop culture.  Most of the material isn't difficult, but like I said, it only takes one mistake to send you home.
Title: Re: The Line - seen on GSN 12/23
Post by: SuperMatch93 on December 25, 2014, 01:43:02 PM
Does the difficulty increase as you get closer to eight, or is the material consistent?

Doesn't seem all that compelling as a game show, but I'd still go if it came to Chicago.
Title: Re: The Line - seen on GSN 12/23
Post by: TLEberle on December 25, 2014, 01:44:49 PM
So in essence it's a touring version of Break the Bank, with extra stuff thrown in.

To Matt's question: would you have preferred lots of people winning a few hundred dollars, or one person taking down an enormous jackpot? Because you really can't have those two things in the same instance.
Title: Re: The Line - seen on GSN 12/23
Post by: Matt Ottinger on December 25, 2014, 02:24:17 PM
Does the difficulty increase as you get closer to eight, or is the material consistent?

Consistent.  According to the narrator, the questions are generated randomly, and there wasn't anything I saw that suggested otherwise. 

To Matt's question: would you have preferred lots of people winning a few hundred dollars, or one person taking down an enormous jackpot? Because you really can't have those two things in the same instance.

Well, the minimum anybody could win is $2,000, which I guess isn't bad for eight easy questions on a game show that came to you, though some people stood in line upwards of twelve hours for that privilege.   Still, because of the editing, it seems as though we didn't see nearly all the winners.  I got the impression that low-scoring winners may have been edited out in favor of colorful contestants and (by their standards) larger jackpots.  To your specific question, I guess I'd prefer to see some larger jackpots, especially since we're only going to see a fraction of game play anyway.
Title: Re: The Line - seen on GSN 12/23
Post by: TLEberle on December 25, 2014, 10:25:17 PM
Forgive me if these sound silly; I don't get the channel and didn't see it. If you answer two questions right do you win $500 or $0? If the jackpot resets to zero with a new challenger how would it get any higher than the $2,000 for eight right at $250 each?
Title: Re: The Line - seen on GSN 12/23
Post by: Joe Mello on December 25, 2014, 10:48:13 PM
Forgive me if these sound silly; I don't get the channel and didn't see it. If you answer two questions right do you win $500 or $0? If the jackpot resets to zero with a new challenger how would it get any higher than the $2,000 for eight right at $250 each?
I read it as the pot going up $250 for each right answer, winner (ie 8 in a row) taking it all. It doesn't reset for each challenger.
Title: Re: The Line - seen on GSN 12/23
Post by: TLEberle on December 25, 2014, 10:51:34 PM
So there is at least the possibility of a large-ish payday for Eight Right. And there's no way to get out with a lesser payday; it's everything or squat?
Title: Re: The Line - seen on GSN 12/23
Post by: Flerbert419 on December 25, 2014, 11:29:39 PM
That's right, it's everything at the time or nothing.

The most interesting part for me was how long some people were willing to wait in The Line just to have a shot at anywhere from $2,000 up to about $16,000 - from the first person getting in line 2 hours early to some having to wait for 12+ hours.  They also weren't clear if everybody in the line had a chance to play or was it a set time that the vault wouldn't be open for any other players, since it never seemed to get dark outside.

At the end of the two hours the claim was made that they gave away over $150k at this one location.
Title: Re: The Line - seen on GSN 12/23
Post by: Matt Ottinger on December 25, 2014, 11:30:15 PM
Yeah, if a player misses, the player is gone but the bank stays.  Somebody eventually takes the whole pot by getting eight right, and only then does the bank reset to zero.  But since you have to get eight right to win, a brand new player would still win two grand, the value of his own eight questions.

It's a little like the escalating payouts on Super Password and other shows of that type.  To a large degree, the amount you win isn't really dependent on your own abilities, but rather on what happened (or failed to happen) before you got there.
Title: Re: The Line - seen on GSN 12/23
Post by: Matt Ottinger on December 25, 2014, 11:32:46 PM
At the end of the two hours the claim was made that they gave away over $150k at this one location.

I didn't follow along with a calculator to see how much money was given out on the air, but since both the "big" wins that they saved for the end of each hour were less than $20K, I'm still led to believe that not nearly every win was televised.
Title: Re: The Line - seen on GSN 12/23
Post by: TLEberle on December 25, 2014, 11:55:29 PM
It's a little like the escalating payouts on Super Password and other shows of that type.  To a large degree, the amount you win isn't really dependent on your own abilities, but rather on what happened (or failed to happen) before you got there.
But at least on those shows back then if somebody takes down the jackpot the next day is still worth a significant enough amount of money that you can be interested in the outcome, or in the case of Scrabble/Super Password, the end game is good enough to stand on its own. Two grand is great if you win it but as a game show prize I really can't be arsed to emote over it.

Hooray, they'er doing actual game shows which is nice, but they could have just licensed an American version of Avanti un Altro! and gotten a real deal game show. Plus you don't have the spectacle of watching people queue up for a thing.
Title: Re: The Line - seen on GSN 12/23
Post by: Marc412 on December 26, 2014, 08:45:18 AM
Well, on a typical show, you have to audition.  Here, you could just come and have a go if you think you're smart enough and patient enough.  Even if you do drive hundreds of miles up and back and spend all day in line to win the minimum jackpot of $2,000, you've probably made more that weekend than in two days at work. :)
Title: Re: The Line - seen on GSN 12/23
Post by: TLEberle on December 26, 2014, 09:16:44 AM
Well, on a typical show, you have to audition.  Here, you could just come and have a go if you think you're smart enough and patient enough.  Even if you do drive hundreds of miles up and back and spend all day in line to win the minimum jackpot of $2,000, you've probably made more that weekend than in two days at work. :)
And Matt's point is that most of the people in the line weren't near smart enough.
Title: Re: The Line - seen on GSN 12/23
Post by: Matt Ottinger on December 26, 2014, 11:12:29 AM
Well, on a typical show, you have to audition.  Here, you could just come and have a go if you think you're smart enough and patient enough. 

While that's certainly what we're led to believe, and may actually be true, I don't think we were told explicitly that absolutely anyone who showed up and got in line got the chance to play.
Title: Re: The Line - seen on GSN 12/23
Post by: Thunder on December 26, 2014, 07:55:20 PM
Wasn't "Come on down and everybody can win some money" the same hook for that Million Second Quiz game last year?


... Two grand is great if you win it but as a game show prize I really can't be arsed to emote over it.

"Arsed to emote"? Seriously?
Title: Re: The Line - seen on GSN 12/23
Post by: BrandonFG on December 26, 2014, 11:56:59 PM
Caught some of tonight's episode. From what I saw, it's a harmless way to spend an hour (would prolly make it a half-hour show, though), but the typical game/reality show elements (pregnant pauses, whoosh SFX, overediting) are kinda annoying. However, the format itself is fun, the questions are decent enough and I enjoyed playing along.

Not a fan of the showing bits and pieces of contestants who apparently didn't make it through a full game. Either show his or her full game or don't.

ETA: I noticed High Noon Entertainment produces this show, which I believe is Marc Summers' company. I know I've seen the name on various Food Network shows. Kinda explains all the reality show elements...I see them all over the place on FN's shows.
Title: Re: The Line - seen on GSN 12/23
Post by: clemon79 on December 27, 2014, 12:22:11 AM
ETA: I noticed High Noon Entertainment produces this show, which I believe is Marc Summers' company. I know I've seen the name on various Food Network shows. Kinda explains all the reality show elements...I see them all over the place on FN's shows.

Summers' company is self-named. I would guess he prolly does a lot of work with High Noon though, especially since they have an office out of Denver, which is where I believe Summers does Unwrapped.
Title: Re: The Line - seen on GSN 12/23
Post by: TLEberle on December 27, 2014, 02:01:52 AM
Caught some of tonight's episode. From what I saw, it's a harmless way to spend an hour
I like to make this point every once in a while; but I want the hurdle for entertainment to be higher than merely harmless.
Title: Re: The Line - seen on GSN 12/23
Post by: BrandonFG on December 27, 2014, 12:53:10 PM
I would too, but I'm slowly coming to terms with the fact that with a few exceptions, not too many current producers put a lot of stock into making a well-oiled game show. For every Jeopardy!, you get a ton of Fremantle or Endemol USA projects that emphasize on too many of the wrong elements. And those are the ones I don't watch.

Would I like more than harmless? Absolutely. But if I can find an inoffensive way to spend an hour, I'll still take it. YMMV.
Title: Re: The Line - seen on GSN 12/23
Post by: BillCullen1 on December 28, 2014, 11:33:15 PM
There were questions that were obviously false (to me, anyway), but contestants answered TRUE and thus were eliminated. Some questions that I remember (maybe not exact wording but you get the idea):

There's an old expression - Home is where the TV is.

Before he married Jennifer Lopez, Marc Anthony was married to Susan B. Anthony

Loud music doesn't affect your hearing, so you can turn up your MP3 player as loud as you want

The contestant answering the last one hit the true button faster than you can snap your fingers. The people answering these were all on the young side.

Title: Re: The Line - seen on GSN 12/23
Post by: TLEberle on December 28, 2014, 11:35:20 PM
Are there clips of this? Was a host asking the questions such that some humor could be wrung from the clunkers?
Title: Re: The Line - seen on GSN 12/23
Post by: BillCullen1 on December 28, 2014, 11:38:33 PM
The "host" was a robotic female voice that was heard but not seen. Questions appeared on a large screen in large print. So the contestants were basically alone during the questioning. Not sure if clips are available, but the robotic voice read the questions straight forward.
Title: Re: The Line - seen on GSN 12/23
Post by: TLEberle on December 28, 2014, 11:41:55 PM
That's too bad; having someone reading from a tablet could have at least reacted. And I wonder how many of the jackpot winning questions were that easy.
Title: Re: The Line - seen on GSN 12/23
Post by: Matt Ottinger on December 29, 2014, 12:53:23 PM
The amusingly wrong answers were packaged as a group, culled (presumably) from the entire pool of people who played.  So from 12+ hours and dozens, maybe hundreds of man-on-the-street players, they found a few stupid ones to showcase.  Not all questions were that easy, and not all contestants were that dumb.  But yeah, the only way to make it funny was to put them together as a montage, since all the female voice would say is "That answer is...incorrect."