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Title: Who created The New Price is Right in 1972?
Post by: Casey Buck on April 17, 2024, 06:23:53 PM
This may sound like a silly question.  Bob Stewart, of course, created the original 50s/60s Bill Cullen version of The Price is Right.

But I'm not sure that we've fully established with who came up with the three big differentiators of The New Price is Right: the Pricing Games, the two-player Showcase, and the selection of contestants out of the studio audience.

I imagine the correct answer would certainly be Frank Wayne. But would it also be Jay Wolpert, someone else on the Goodson staff, or even Goodson himself (he certainly claimed to be the creator!)?

Who would you have in a hypothetical "Developed by" credit alongside Bob Stewart's "Created by" credit?
Title: Re: Who created The New Price is Right in 1972?
Post by: steveleb on April 17, 2024, 09:45:48 PM
I’ll defer to anyone who may have been on staff then, but given what I know of that team during a lean era, and the fact the show was on some form of development for seven years, I’d offer the correct answer may just be all of the above.
Title: Re: Who created The New Price is Right in 1972?
Post by: Kevin Prather on April 17, 2024, 10:06:14 PM
I could be completely making this up, but weren't the contestants taken from the audience on the Cullen version too? Just done before the show rather than on camera?
Title: Re: Who created The New Price is Right in 1972?
Post by: rebelwrest on April 17, 2024, 10:07:51 PM
But I'm not sure that we've fully established with who came up with the three big differentiators of The New Price is Right: the Pricing Games, the two-player Showcase, and the selection of contestants out of the studio audience.

This may be sacrilegious, but I think the influence for those elements came from Let's Make A Deal.  Did Monty Hall ever make a compliant about how similar The New Price Is Right was to his show?
Title: Re: Who created The New Price is Right in 1972?
Post by: BrandonFG on April 17, 2024, 10:15:05 PM
This may be sacrilegious, but I think the influence for those elements came from Let's Make A Deal.  Did Monty Hall ever make a compliant about how similar The New Price Is Right was to his show?
Forget if I read it here or elsewhere, but I recall that he showed up at the G-T offices absolutely livid. Monty, Mark and Bill obviously worked something out.

Paging Chris Clementson.
Title: Re: Who created The New Price is Right in 1972?
Post by: Casey Buck on April 17, 2024, 10:27:55 PM
But I'm not sure that we've fully established with who came up with the three big differentiators of The New Price is Right: the Pricing Games, the two-player Showcase, and the selection of contestants out of the studio audience.

This may be sacrilegious, but I think the influence for those elements came from Let's Make A Deal.  Did Monty Hall ever make a compliant about how similar The New Price Is Right was to his show?

I was going to mention that in my original post. It wouldn't surprise me if Goodson said "Let's make The New Price is Right just like Let's Make a Deal, but with items up for bids!" Hell, there's even three doors!
Title: Re: Who created The New Price is Right in 1972?
Post by: SuperMatch93 on April 18, 2024, 08:10:23 AM
I could be completely making this up, but weren't the contestants taken from the audience on the Cullen version too? Just done before the show rather than on camera?

I believe in Quizmaster it says that people were interviewed in line and quizzed on prices of small prizes for the chance to be used on a future program.
Title: Re: Who created The New Price is Right in 1972?
Post by: Matt Ottinger on April 18, 2024, 10:20:36 AM
This may be sacrilegious, but I think the influence for those elements came from Let's Make A Deal.  Did Monty Hall ever make a compliant about how similar The New Price Is Right was to his show?
Forget if I read it here or elsewhere, but I recall that he showed up at the G-T offices absolutely livid. Monty, Mark and Bill obviously worked something out.

It always fascinated me that in the pitch film for the new version, they use a clip from Let's Make A Deal to show how things are going to work.  Pretty brazen.
Title: Re: Who created The New Price is Right in 1972?
Post by: carlisle96 on April 18, 2024, 01:09:27 PM
But I'm not sure that we've fully established with who came up with the three big differentiators of The New Price is Right: the Pricing Games, the two-player Showcase, and the selection of contestants out of the studio audience.

This may be sacrilegious, but I think the influence for those elements came from Let's Make A Deal.  Did Monty Hall ever make a compliant about how similar The New Price Is Right was to his show?

Everybody borrowed from everybody. Art Linketter once said many of the games on Let's Make a Deal and Price Is Right were used on People Are Funny on radio in the 1940s
Title: Re: Who created The New Price is Right in 1972?
Post by: TLEberle on April 18, 2024, 01:36:23 PM
Everybody borrowed from everybody. Art Linketter once said many of the games on Let's Make a Deal and Price Is Right were used on People Are Funny on radio in the 1940s
I'm sure it wasn't intentional and there are only so many games you can do with prices of items, but the game It's in the Bag is LMAD's "Match the Prices" with a different coat of paint and a sixth item that doesn't have an accompanying bag.
Title: Re: Who created The New Price is Right in 1972?
Post by: carlisle96 on April 19, 2024, 12:07:09 PM
Everybody borrowed from everybody. Art Linketter once said many of the games on Let's Make a Deal and Price Is Right were used on People Are Funny on radio in the 1940s
I'm sure it wasn't intentional and there are only so many games you can do with prices of items, but the game It's in the Bag is LMAD's "Match the Prices" with a different coat of paint and a sixth item that doesn't have an accompanying bag.
Exactly....just like there's only a few ways you can put a celebrity panel behind a desk and ask them to guess something.
Title: Re: Who created The New Price is Right in 1972?
Post by: Jimmy Owen on April 22, 2024, 02:57:55 PM
Just as Elvis Presley wrote all those songs, Mark Goodson created The New Price Is Right.
Title: Re: Who created The New Price is Right in 1972?
Post by: SamPrainito on April 22, 2024, 05:12:31 PM
I’m surprised no one has mentioned this, but I recall reading somewhere (probably one of Adam’s excellent book), the G-T team worked poolside brainstorming ideas while Goodson swam laps in the pool.

I suppose it’s like the saying goes, “Success has many fathers, failure is an orphan.”
Title: Re: Who created The New Price is Right in 1972?
Post by: Nick on April 22, 2024, 08:02:37 PM
I’m surprised no one has mentioned this, but I recall reading somewhere (probably one of Adam’s excellent book), the G-T team worked poolside brainstorming ideas while Goodson swam laps in the pool.

John Sly just brought this up (https://www.golden-road.net/index.php/topic,35654.msg511007.html#msg511007) recently.