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tvrandywest:
[quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Jul 22 2003, 12:03 PM\'] Which would make virtually every commercial slogan useless, as far as copyrights?
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You can't copyright words, but you CAN be granted a \"service mark\" that provides for similar recourse in the event of infringement. Service marks can be a word or slogan for a particular and specific useage.

You're already familiar with a few dozen, such as \"We bring good things to life\".

I'm most familiar with the practice in radio where adequately distinctive words and phrases ARE regularly service marked. For example, the descriptive names \"KISS\" and \"STAR\" are protected for use by only one station in your radio market. The cease and desist order from CBS/Infinity would be served so fast that your head would spin if you used the phrase \"Give us 22 minutes and we'll give you the world\" on your LA radio station. But, arguably, you could use the phrase to describe your travel agency... those are the kind of disputes that make lawyers rich.


Randy
tvrandywest.com

Don Howard:

--- Quote ---Does the RIAA have a search warrent out for my little house little ol' Chillicothe Ohio?
--- End quote ---

Chillicothe, eh? Were you at the Paints game on Monday
for \"dime-a-dog\" night?
Back to the topic at hand, no, sorry, I don't have a clean copy
of the theme. And it looks like it's a good thing I don't. I'll also
think twice from now on before looking across a room.

Fedya:
Randy West wrote:

--- Quote ---I'm most familiar with the practice in radio where adequately distinctive words and phrases ARE regularly service marked. For example, the descriptive names \"KISS\" and \"STAR\" are protected for use by only one station in your radio market. The cease and desist order from CBS/Infinity would be served so fast that your head would spin if you used the phrase \"Give us 22 minutes and we'll give you the world\" on your LA radio station. But, arguably, you could use the phrase to describe your travel agency... those are the kind of disputes that make lawyers rich.
--- End quote ---

But couldn't you countersue CBS/Infinity for fraud on the grounds that local affiliates never give you the world in any amount of time?  ;-)

(Sorry to offend those who have worked for local TV news outlets, but my experience has been that they care far more about sensationalism and appealing to emotion.  A year and a half ago when India went through one of its regular periods of Hindu/Muslim religious clashes, one of the local newsreaders here began the report by saying \"15 children died in India today\", and then went on to mention that they were killed in the religious clashes.  I wanted to reach through the screen and beat the crap out of the woman.  Would it have been OK if only adults had died?)

tvrandywest:
[quote name=\'Fedya\' date=\'Jul 22 2003, 10:23 PM\'] Sorry to offend those who have worked for local TV news outlets, but my experience has been that they care far more about sensationalism and appealing to emotion. [/quote]
 \"If it bleeds, it leads\"

The three \"R\"s of news priority: \"Rapes, (W)recks, and Riots\".


There was a day when William Paley at CBS (moreso than the other nets) valued the public service and image enhancing benefits of the network's news broadcasting. The prestigious news department was considered sacrosanct and independent from the programming execs. News regularly operated at a financial loss. It was an environment that nurtured the compelling work of Ed Murrow, and allowed hourlong documentaries like the celebrated \"Harvest of Shame\" to run in primetime (It was a story of poor migrant farm workers picking our fruit - nobody died and nobody wore a bikini).

Since the networks were all bought by huge, multi-national, publicly owned corporate entities (Viacom, GE, Disney) the emphasis has been on news generating a profit. As long as that's the case we'll see all that great stuff like dead children... especially if the story has good video! I can't wait for November sweeps!!


Randy
tvrandywest.com

tommycharles:
[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Jul 21 2003, 11:38 PM\']
They can't arrest just anyone. There are LOTS and LOTS of VERY LEGITIMATE uses for those systems. If the RIAA is truly so stupid as to randomly sic the authorities on anyone using any of the aforementioned programs (and it's ENTIRELY possible that they are), then all it takes is one slipup, one potshot at the wrong guy, and they are done for. They don't exactly have a positive image in the public eye right now, and the law is currently on their side, if it's applied to the right people.

Our freedom is in danger only because millions
I ask you what the bigger crime is: perpetuating a business model that encourages charging $20 to buy an entire CD for the one song you want, or downloading an MP3 (which is NOT a perfect copy, despite all of the record company propaganda being shoved up the orifice of your choice) of a song that I wouldn't otherwise buy, usually because the album in question is long out of print?

The fact is, if they took the time to figure out how to work WITH the system instead of against it, they would learn that they can still turn a tidy profit selling MP3's themselves. The fact that any idiot out there can rip a song from a CD now, and that most of said idiots do so BADLY, is the music industry's best weapon, but the industry is so caught up in their own puffery and sabre rattling that they refuse to see it. If they took single songs and charged me $1 for a 128Kbit, 100% guaranteed clean rip, or $2 for the same in a 320K flavor, I'd pay for the download in a New York minute.

But they're greedy and unwilling to let go of that $20-for-one-song profit margin. Obviously, in the case of the Game Show theme CD's, the money is worth spending because the majority of the tracks are worth having. But the days of a superalbum like Huey Lewis And The News's "Sports" or Def Leppard's "Hysteria", where fully half of the album consisted of released singles that received radio airplay are long since over. Today, it's "write one hook song, fill up the rest with crap, and move on to the next album". Why the HELL should I support that? [/quote]
 Now - what exactly can they do (excuse me if I'm underestimating technology here) if they do find said illegal songs on your computer - and you claim that you have every song there on CD's that you legitimately bought at retail price? Do you really have to pull out your CD collection to prove it?

Also, don't we start hitting privacy invasion like never before if the RIAA starts \"sniffing around on your computer\"? Does owning a PC start constituting grounds for a warrant?

Just questions, I'm not ranting - I don't own much \"illegal\" music, as most of the time, I'd just rather buy the whole CD. The few songs I do have, I have because the CD is either extremely rare, or in one case - it's the only song on a Greatest Hits collection that I don't have elsewhere on CD.

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