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TimK2003

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Re: The most-improved hosts/announcers
« Reply #15 on: September 04, 2025, 05:31:37 PM »
There is a TPIR demo with Bob Hilton announcing. I thought he was very good, better even than Rod Roddy.

He was, but in his recent game show interview, Bob Hilton said Barker was afraid he would be upstaged as both hosted Truth or Consequences by that time. So Barker himself gave Hilton the thumbs down.

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Re: The most-improved hosts/announcers
« Reply #16 on: September 04, 2025, 05:58:01 PM »
I’ll take announcers for my pick and go to Jim Thornton. I wasn’t entirely blown away by his performance on Price, but he fits Wheel nicely.
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Re: The most-improved hosts/announcers
« Reply #17 on: September 04, 2025, 06:33:57 PM »
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Drew Carey on TPiR. Not that he was terrible in his first season but there were definitely growing pains where he stumbled a bit. Hell, I'd add Barker as well. He was very robotic and overexplained things a lot in the half-hour era. If the Internet were a mainstream thing in 1972, I have a feeling several of us would've said "He's no Bill Cullen, that's for sure."

Yea, I didn't want to go there, but...I'm going there. I can't imagine what it must have been like having the pressure on you of following in Bob's shoes, knowing the rules for over 60-some games, the different marks he had to make, etc. But, he definitely seemed a bit awkward. But, clearly, since around 2010 (I may be off), he has made that show his own, while paying homage to Bob at the same time.
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Re: The most-improved hosts/announcers
« Reply #18 on: September 04, 2025, 10:17:08 PM »
I admit I'm biased, but you look at Chuckie Baby his first week of hosting GONG and his last week of hosting GONG, and the difference is stark.
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« Reply #19 on: September 05, 2025, 11:41:51 AM »
Drew Carey improved a lot once Roger and co. left and he found his groove in 2010. His first few seasons were awkward because it still felt like Bob's show and he was filling in.


I still wish Art Sanders or Burton Richardson had gotten the announcer job; i still don't know how Rich got the job.

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« Reply #20 on: September 05, 2025, 12:48:14 PM »
Mike O'Malley was so incredibly hyper hosting Get the Picture but improved tremendously hosting GUTS/Global GUTS.
I'd argue that the jump from GTP to Guts was just the same guy in a much better vessel for his energy.

I'd give a nod to Ken Jennings, who has really grown into the role.

I've always maintained that if some other guy with a very similar name didn't become famous at about the same time, Mark L. would be much better known than he is, and it's a shame that it never happened by no fault of his own.
I dunno- it's not like Marky Mark was siphoning work away from Mark L; if anything, people saying his name likely piqued more interest in Mark L, as he jokes on Price Live.
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« Reply #21 on: September 05, 2025, 12:55:38 PM »
Drew Carey improved a lot once Roger and co. left and he found his groove in 2010. His first few seasons were awkward because it still felt like Bob's show and he was filling in.
I think it’s a cross between needing to carve out his own lane but also getting away from the monotony of the past 36 years. The perfect bid was probably the best thing that could’ve happened, as it forced the show to add a better variety of prizes. Could Drew have handled it better on air? Yes, but I understand his concern over a potential scandal one year into the job.

Getting away from the “Fried Chicken!”-style Showcases was a good move too. I’d argue he found his stride around 2011-12.
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« Reply #22 on: September 05, 2025, 01:33:21 PM »
I'd give a nod to Ken Jennings, who has really grown into the role.

It's pretty amazing how much he's improved from the first guest hosting stint, but he talked about how it took a lot of personal work and training to get even to that point. Ken has gotten really good at the off-the-cuff comments from the contestant interviews during the game, adding his own comments/details, and other quips. He recently mentioned in an interview he writes all of his own intros as well. Extremely natural, and I think that it ended up being the best for Jeopardy! from a legacy perspective, as someone directly connected to the game - but he did the work to become a solid host. More enjoyable for me from a game perspective than the final few Alex years.
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Re: The most-improved hosts/announcers
« Reply #23 on: September 05, 2025, 04:30:31 PM »
My primary takeaway from this thread is that if somebody works for years at a job, they get better at the job, which is fairly intuitive -- even Barker credits his experience hosting a local radio audience participation show for honing his skills prior to Truth or Consequences. Even the hosts that often get derided around here for their poor hosting abilities probably would have improved if their shows had lasted five years or so.

The only way a host gets worse at their job is if they've been doing it for so long, they've mentally checked out. Were there any hosts who got years and years of experience but didn't show improvement?

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Re: The most-improved hosts/announcers
« Reply #24 on: September 05, 2025, 05:26:06 PM »
Were there any hosts who got years and years of experience but didn't show improvement?
Besides David Sparks?  :)
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TimK2003

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Re: The most-improved hosts/announcers
« Reply #25 on: September 05, 2025, 05:43:56 PM »
Drew Carey improved a lot once Roger and co. left and he found his groove in 2010. His first few seasons were awkward because it still felt like Bob's show and he was filling in.

He has. But I still wish he wouldn't be so predictable during the SCSD.  The obligatory "Who do you wanna say hi to?" line for every contestant still sounds like he's not that interested or comfortable in emceeing the show. 

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« Reply #26 on: September 06, 2025, 08:43:37 AM »
The only way a host gets worse at their job is if they've been doing it for so long, they've mentally checked out. Were there any hosts who got years and years of experience but didn't show improvement?
The ones who pop in my mind are Louie Anderson and Richard Karn.

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Re: The most-improved hosts/announcers
« Reply #27 on: September 06, 2025, 06:55:45 PM »
The only way a host gets worse at their job is if they've been doing it for so long, they've mentally checked out. Were there any hosts who got years and years of experience but didn't show improvement?
The ones who pop in my mind are Louie Anderson and Richard Karn.

Louie, absolutely. I thought Karn was just fine on Bingo America.

Been watching quite a bit of 3rd Degree lately and as someone who’s been a Bert Convy apologist to certain degrees over the years, this was not the way he should’ve gone out. His style works for Tattletales, people’s mileage varies on Super Password, and he doesn’t have to be anything more than a traffic cop on WLOD so he’s fine. But his limitations shine through on a panel show like 3rd Degree and I can’t help but wonder if Peter Marshall might’ve done better. (I still don’t think the show makes it beyond a year; I mean, yeah, you got the revival of To Tell the Truth the next season, but I don’t think panel games were something a 1990 television audience would be clamoring to watch on a regular basis even if everything worked out right.)
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« Reply #28 on: Today at 01:04:17 AM »
Drew Carey on TPiR. Not that he was terrible in his first season but there were definitely growing pains where he stumbled a bit.
One of the reruns this week had a playing of Switcheroo where the contestant got two right and proceeded to make changes. One person in the crowd started to groan and Drew says "Good morning, Judge Mental!" It's a great bit that deserved a laugh and did not need to be dwelt upon or to have it become a historic moment and the annals of the show. It was a comedian doing comedy and it landed. For me stuff like that is worth the price of admission.
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