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aaron sica:
[quote name=\'tommycharles\' date=\'Mar 11 2004, 02:28 PM\'] I think betting on Blackjack is a good idea - the Mole could turn out to be a big ... miss. By my recollection, it's the first time a reality show has had offnet repeats. Would you watch if GSN started rerunning Survivor and you'd already seen it? That said, it's quite possible (specifically with the non-celeb versions) that people either didn't watch it originally or don't remember it.

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That's the part of re-running the contests that continue from week to week that I question, as well (I refuse to call them "game operas") - most people already know who won the entire contest, what's the fun of re-watching it all over again when you know who's going to win in the first place?

BrandonFG:
[quote name=\'aaron sica\' date=\'Mar 11 2004, 02:35 PM\'] [quote name=\'tommycharles\' date=\'Mar 11 2004, 02:28 PM\'] I think betting on Blackjack is a good idea - the Mole could turn out to be a big ... miss. By my recollection, it's the first time a reality show has had offnet repeats. Would you watch if GSN started rerunning Survivor and you'd already seen it? That said, it's quite possible (specifically with the non-celeb versions) that people either didn't watch it originally or don't remember it.

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That's the part of re-running the contests that continue from week to week that I question, as well (I refuse to call them "game operas") - most people already know who won the entire contest, what's the fun of re-watching it all over again when you know who's going to win in the first place? [/quote]
 I agree that it may kill the suspense factor. Then again, think of it like watching Millionaire. As soon as John Carpenter or Joe Trela steps into the hot seat, you know they're going to win the million, but it's still fun watching the climb.

I guess... :-/

jcompton:
[quote name=\'CaseyAbell\' date=\'Mar 11 2004, 01:25 PM\'] Blackjack is definitely the non-trad show GSN is betting (sorry) the most on. They've ordered additional eps already, it seems to be getting the most promos of any of the new shows, the changes kick off with a double-run of the card game, and the premiere week retreads the show again and again. [/quote]
Has anybody seen how this show is formatted? Specifically, how an episode tends to end?

While I get a kick out of World Poker Tour, I find that my interest tends to wane as the show draws to a close because all you need to do to know how it's going to end is look at the clock: At a few minutes before the hour, the trailing player will go all-in and will lose, and you know this because there wouldn't be enough time to go through another hand. Any sense of suspense is, poof, gone. Hard to argue with (admittedly, expanded basic cable) success, but on the other hand, this seems like really awful television design to me, to have a climax so really, really, really obvious. And not in an enjoyable Columbo-like manner, either.

Point being, I'm wondering how a Blackjack Grudge Match show is going to avoid that problem.

CaseyAbell:

--- Quote ---I wasn't aware they had a major primetime drop in August/September of 03...what caused it?

--- End quote ---

I got obsessive-compulsive and pulled all the prime time household numbers from the old CableWorld site, dating back a couple years. (They don't give the numbers out for free any more, by the way. And the numbers that MediaLifeMagazine doles out don't get down far enough to include GSN.)

GSN really took a dive in August and September in their household count. That's why the deal for Millionaire got done pronto and the severe shakeup occurred in the prime time schedule...basically canning everything except three shows GSN gambled on: Millionaire, Lingo and Match Game.

Funny thing, it worked! GSN made double-digit gains the first two months this year from a year ago in prime time households. So now they're scrambling up prime time again in a search for younger demos. Lotsa luck, guys!


--- Quote ---Has anybody seen how this show is formatted? Specifically, how an episode tends to end?
--- End quote ---

The blackjack show on the Travel Channel had a fixed numbers of hands in the final round. So three or four players were left on the last hand, and any of them could have won. Ken Einiger, who will appear on the GSN shows, took a horrible beat on the last card 19-18 to lose the million. My guess is that the GSN shows will have a similar format.

I liked the Travel Channel show. Only problem for me was too much post-production. All the narration was post-produced, which made the show seem less immediate and dramatic.

CaseyAbell:
Just to make my obsessive-compusive behavior obvious to all, these are the GSN prime time household numbers I culled from the CableWorld site. The site no longer publishes these numbers for free. MediaLifeMagazine only gives numbers for the top 25 ad-supported cable networks.

Each line gives the week, universe rating (percentage of households watching GSN out of all households that have access to GSN), average prime time household count, and rank among the top forty ad-supported cablers.

GSN's household count held pretty steady against its competition until late summer 2003, when the network experienced an alarming decline that often dumped it out of the top forty altogether. The very last line shows a bounce-back that started when GSN acquired Millionaire and went to the three-show prime time lineup.

The bounce-back has continued through January and February this year, according to Variety. GSN's average household count was up 18% this February from February, 2003.

Judging from the numbers on this list, this indicates GSN brushed up close to 300K households, on average, for February, 2004. Which would be a record month for the network, or real close.

So that's why they're scrambling up prime time on March 15 (chuckle). Well, actually they want better demos. We'll see.

08/19/02-08/25/02 0.5 215,000 36
08/26/02-09/01/02 0.5 215,000 36
09/02/02-09/08/02 0.5 221,000 40
09/09/02-09/15/02 0.6 273,000 33
09/16/02-09/22/02 0.5 227,000 34
09/23/02-09/29/02 0.4 197,000 35
09/30/02-10/06/02 0.5 252,000 34
10/07/02-10/13/02 0.5 251,000 34
10/14/02-10/20/02 0.5 219,000 35
10/21/02-10/27/02 0.5 229,000 33
10/28/02-11/03/02 0.5 255,000 33
11/04/02-11/10/02 0.4 216,000 36
11/11/02-11/17/02 0.5 258,000 34
11/18/02-11/24/02 0.5 228,000 36
11/25/02-12/01/02 0.4 222,000 39
12/02/02-12/08/02 0.4 205,000 40
12/23/02-12/29/02 0.4 197,000 40
12/30/02-01/05/03 0.5 256,000 39
01/06/03-01/12/03 0.4 227,000 39
01/13/03-01/19/03 0.5 227,000 38
01/20/03-01/26/03 0.4 206,000 39
01/27/03-02/02/03 0.5 256,000 38
02/03/03-02/09/03 0.5 255,000 37
02/10/03-02/16/03 0.5 261,000 35
02/17/03-02/23/03 0.5 237,000 37
02/24/03-03/02/03 0.5 256,000 37
03/03/03-03/09/03 0.5 250,000 39
03/10/03-03/16/03 0.6 307,000 32
03/17/03-03/23/03 0.5 276,000 32
03/24/03-03/30/03 0.4 226,000 38
04/01/03-04/06/03 Out of top 40, less than 215,000 hh
04/07/03-04/13/03 0.5 267,000 35
04/14/03-04/20/03 0.4 216,000 38
04/21/03-04/27/03 0.4 213,000 38
04/28/03-05/04/03 0.4 229,000 35
05/05/03-05/11/03 0.3 177,000 40
05/12/03-05/18/03 0.4 208,000 37
05/19/03-05/25/03 0.3 172,000 40
05/26/03-06/01/03 0.4 229,000 38
06/02/03-06/08/03 0.4 210,000 38
06/09/03-06/15/03 0.4 205,000 38
06/16/03-06/22/03 0.4 216,000 39
06/23/03-06/29/03 0.4 222,000 38
06/30/03-07/06/03 0.4 217,000 37
07/07/03-07/13/03 0.4 209,000 39
07/14/03-07/20/03 Out of top 40, less than 228,000 hh
07/28/03-08/03/03 0.3 170,000 40
08/11/03-08/17/03 Out of top 40, less than 212,000 hh
08/25/03-08/31/03 Out of top 40, less than 173,000 hh
09/01/03-09/07/03 0.4 195,000 40
09/08/03-09/14/03 0.4 189,000 40
09/15/03-09/21/03 0.4 192,000 40
09/22/03-09/28/03 Out of top 40, less than 174,000 hh
09/29/03-10/05/03 0.3 167,000 40
10/20/03-10/26/03 0.4 235,000 33

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