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Alternate realities when it comes to game shows
Kevin Prather:
This is not my original thought. Somebody in our community suggested it either on Facebook or on this board somewhere. I'd credit them if I could find it. But I thought it was an interesting take.
If Woolery never leaves Wheel...
- Does the daytime version last long enough and remain popular enough for the syndicated nighttime version to come along?
- If syndicated Wheel never happens, does Kingworld expand like it did in the 80s?
- If Kingworld never expands, does The Oprah Winfrey Show ever make it out of Chicago?
- If Oprah Winfrey never becomes the huge name she did, does Barack Obama still win the presidency in 2008?
Several of these assumptions are probably stretches, but it's a delicious irony anyway.
SuperMatch93:
--- Quote from: Kevin Prather on June 22, 2023, 01:18:01 AM ---This is not my original thought. Somebody in our community suggested it either on Facebook or on this board somewhere. I'd credit them if I could find it. But I thought it was an interesting take.
If Woolery never leaves Wheel...
- Does the daytime version last long enough and remain popular enough for the syndicated nighttime version to come along?
- If syndicated Wheel never happens, does Kingworld expand like it did in the 80s?
- If Kingworld never expands, does The Oprah Winfrey Show ever make it out of Chicago?
- If Oprah Winfrey never becomes the huge name she did, does Barack Obama still win the presidency in 2008?
Several of these assumptions are probably stretches, but it's a delicious irony anyway.
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In other words, Woolery leaving Wheel could have indirectly caused Obama to become President?
I bet Chuck would love to hear that.
BillCullen1:
--- Quote from: Chief-O on June 21, 2023, 04:40:45 PM ---
--- Quote from: chris319 on June 21, 2023, 04:27:30 PM ---Were On A Roll, TKO and Star Words all commissioned by CBS?
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Per Mike Burger, "TKO" was for ABC (but shot at TV City).
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I enjoyed TKO. What if ABC puts that on instead of MG '90? Would it have lasted longer?
danderson:
--- Quote from: thomas_meighan on June 21, 2023, 07:37:20 PM ---Since we’re talking about other worlds here:
NBC expands “Another World” to an hour in 1975….but it flops, goes back to 30 minutes, and no other soap is willing to touch the 60-minute format.
Network daytime afternoons retain their flexibility, and new shows, including games, can become breakout hits at 2:00 or 3:30. The period from 1976 onward sees a greater number of daytime games (and better-rated ones) than we actually got, and networks keep faith in the genre for longer than was really the case.
TPIR can keep its hourlong format. (Oh, and come 1986, Goodson keeps Breslow over Barker. Tom Kennedy gets the daytime show, clicks with viewers, and there are no lawsuits involving the models.)
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If AW flops as an hour, maybe NBC pairs it with another game like they did in the 60s. LMAD switches back to NBC in 75 to pair up with AW and gives Guiding Light a run for its money in the 80s.
Jamey Greek:
--- Quote from: tyshaun1 on June 21, 2023, 07:52:42 AM ---
--- Quote from: Adam Nedeff on June 20, 2023, 07:41:01 PM ---So, in all the years that we've been tape trading, have you noticed that a TON of unsold pilots were shot in 1990?
Michael Brockman was in charge of ABC at that point and he made it known that he wanted to dump Home and make 10:30 am-12:30 pm a two-hour block of game shows. A bunch of those 1990 pilots were shot for ABC's consideration. Brockman was shown the door right before he brought this to fruition. Considering that the network game shows were starting to die at this point, I'm curious to know what would have happened if ABC had unleashed four new game shows in the fall of 1990. No difference? Ratings dilution because of all the syndicated game shows along with the ABC block? A few hits are in there and the life of network games gets extended a little bit?
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IMO, none of those pilots I've seen (TKO, Body Talk, Gambit, Match Game) were particularly strong so I believe none of them would've lasted very long even if they made air; Match Game did but it struggled the entire time it was on. But Brockman himself says that he encountered HEAVY pushback from ABC execs and affiliates from wanting to give game shows another go. They seemed to resign themselves to nothing working before the soaps and him expending so much energy toward investing money into the genre probably hastened his demise.
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Also they used The Finish Line and [Suit Yourself
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