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chris319:
What exactly is the lineage of IGAS ownership? Did G-T reacquire it from Telecast Enterprises either for the 1976 four-show run or for the syndicated run made in Hollywood? Did Fremantle ultimately wind up owning it?
IIRC Gil said in his book that Beatrice Foods was involved at some point.
Matt Ottinger:
--- Quote from: chris319 on May 28, 2023, 06:51:06 PM ---What exactly is the lineage of IGAS ownership? Did G-T reacquire it from Telecast Enterprises either for the 1976 four-show run or for the syndicated run made in Hollywood? Did Fremantle
ultimately wind up owning it?
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I can't tell you under whose auspices Goodson produced the 1972 and 1976 versions. "Telecast Enterprises" does not show up in any search of any historical records I can find after 1967.
In 1992, The Carsey-Werner Company announced that they had acquired the rights to the format, and were going to launch a version in the fall of 1993. That version didn't happen, but they made the 1980 version on Oxygen, and they probably had a hand in (or at least signed off on) the 2006 GSN version. The press release for the 2023 pilot says that it's "based on the format owned by Werner Entertainment, Inc." (Carsey and Werner have not been producing partners for a long time.) Fremantle, as best as I can tell, does not have any ownership stake in the format. They just have possession of the old episodes.
--- Quote from: chris319 on May 28, 2023, 06:51:06 PM ---IIRC Gil said in his book that Beatrice Foods was involved at some point.
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Gil is specifically referring to What's My Line? in a brief passage where he says, "In 1969, in a manner too involved to detail here, the rights to the program passed to Garry Moore's Redwing Productions. In 1971, Redwing sold all of its assets to a conglomerate. If after reading the following pages anybody gets a hankering to revive What's My Line? on television, he will have to negotiate for the rights with Beatrice Foods, Inc., the people who also bring you Stiffel lamps, Samsonite luggage, and Dannon yogurt."
So take that as you will. This passage might just be about WML? or perhaps Garry's company acquired rights to both shows in that complicated deal.
chris319:
I found the credits of a 1972 show. It lists "Goodson-Todman Telecasts, Inc." on the copyright notice, with Firestone as the syndicator. Celebrity was Paul Lynde. Directed by Marc Breslow.
This is what prompted my question about G-T reacquiring IGAS.
Matt Ottinger:
--- Quote from: chris319 on May 28, 2023, 11:43:29 PM ---I found the credits of a 1972 show. It lists "Goodson-Todman Telecasts, Inc." on the copyright notice
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Interesting. That's a very specific word to use, and while it might be a coincidence and just a common word to use to describe a television show, it might also suggest some sort of mutual agreement with "Telecast Enterprises" without that entity giving up the rights.
I haven't done nearly the deep dive into the 72 version as I have the original, though I'm beginning to. If I find anything cool, I'll be sure to share it.
chris319:
--- Quote ---That's a very specific word to use, and while it might be a coincidence and just a common word to use to describe a television show, it might also suggest some sort of mutual agreement with "Telecast Enterprises" without that entity giving up the rights.
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That's an interesting notion.
I looked at the crawl of a Narz Concentration and the copyright notice says "G-T Programs, Inc." even though Jim Victory and I think NBC each had a piece of it, so the copyright notice isn't necessarily definitive.
In the case of IGAS, CBS and Garry Moore may still have had a piece of the show in 1972. That would also explain the four-show run on CBS in 1976. Perhaps CBS financed the pilot show of that run?
The two living people who MIGHT know something about it are Bobby Sherman and Jonathan Goodson. Gil Fates, Garry Moore, Jerry Chester and even Bud Austin are no longer available.
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