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Alternate Timeline: Jack Barry's heart attack is not fatal

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chrisholland03:

--- Quote from: Jimmy Owen on May 15, 2019, 12:30:58 PM ---"Divorce Court" was a go before Jack Barry died, so Jim Peck would have been unavailable.  Ronnie Greenberg could probably confirm (if he still checks the forum).  As far as the show with Barry, our local station moved it from prime access to 4pm in the 83 season, to make room for WOF.  Maybe a couple more years; same as it did with Bill.

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I wouldn't make the assumption that because Jim was one show he would be unavailable for another.  It didn't stop him from substitute hosting during that same timeframe.

I'm not sure that Peck would have extended Joker's run much beyond what it was with Cullen.  I do think there's a chance Kline would have taken over the functional side of B/E, rather than going out on his own - those nearer to the B/E staff would have a better feel on that.

BrandonFG:
Given TTD went with a relative unknown and still only stuck around another year, I’m not sure Jim Peck keeps Joker running longer than two seasons. I think the formats simply ran their course by then, but losing Jack in ‘84 then people leaving for Kline and Friends hurt more.

I’d have to look it up, but I have some images of syndicated ratings, courtesy of the World Almanacs of the early-80s. If I can find those pics, I’ll show comparisons of just how bad Wheel impacted game shows in 1983-84. I know it pummeled Feud.

BillCullen1:
When Jack Barry died. Joker had been on seven seasons, plus three years on CBS. I'm not sure if anyone could have kept it going longer than the two years it lasted. As for Barry himself, I always considered him to be a competent, but not spectacular emcee. I would not put him in the same class with Cullen, Kennedy, Barker or Martindale. IMO, he often looked uptight on camera.

Wiki seems to agree with the story about Barry planning to retire, FWIW.

aaron sica:

--- Quote from: BillCullen1 on May 15, 2019, 06:15:31 PM ---Wiki seems to agree with the story about Barry planning to retire, FWIW.

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Which is one of the reasons I don't take it as word. Wikipedia can sometimes not be the most reliable source - not to mention there's no external sources cited for it as well.

Jimmy Owen:
Jim Peck was attached to a Liar's Club revival titled "Deception" in 84 that didn't sell as well.  If Jack Barry intended for Jim to take over, wouldn't it have been announced at NATPE 84?

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