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Cullen TPIR on Buzzr?
Eric Paddon:
Thank you for proving my point regarding the hypocrisy of those who think being boorish and crude is a virtue and then out of the other side of their mouths love to proclaim how "progressive and enlightened" they are. And I made a distinction between the s-word and sexual innuendo which has also become overly commonplace in our language and no one thinks *that* should be restrained somehow.
And as for what constitutes a "hateful slur", increasingly that's becoming more and more what professional whiners want it to be and they usually end up being the same people who are perfectly okay with hateful slurs (like the c-word for women) being uttered against someone because of who they voted for or who they work for in the political arena.
TonicBH:
--- Quote from: Eric Paddon on October 29, 2019, 12:13:57 AM ---And as for what constitutes a "hateful slur", increasingly that's becoming more and more what professional whiners want it to be and they usually end up being the same people who are perfectly okay with hateful slurs (like the c-word for women) being uttered against someone because of who they voted for or who they work for in the political arena.
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It's difficult to take your argument seriously when you dismiss the people concerned about people using certain slurs as "whiners."
Look, I understand: Sometimes things go too far. Some of these might be misconstrued thanks to companies with good PR departments and news sites looking for the next shocking thing. But you shouldn't dismiss "you shouldn't use words like midget" because you think it's whining.
It just comes off as someone being angry they can't use certain words or jokes in public anymore. Often times they lack empathy for those people, finding enjoyment in punching down. We don't need that in 2019.
As for the original argument: It's Buzzr, they have final say on what can and can't air. And if they feel a brand of car using a word we consider a slur nowadays is questionable, they have the right to censor it. It's their channel, they can do whatever they feel is best.
WarioBarker:
JakeT, I think you're being a bit overzealous. I get where you're coming from, but your replies come across as "You're only disagreeing with me because you like hurtful language!" I can't speak for anyone else here, but I personally hate hurtful language.
Yes, hearing Don Pardo say that M-word or Brett Somers writing "F**" as her answer or any number of other things being done so casually is cringeworthy since there was a lot more insensitivity back then towards certain groups of people (those of Japanese, Chinese, and African descent having gotten a particularly raw deal; eesh), and Buzzr's well within its rights to censor such things for over-the-air broadcast, but being exposed to that stuff through other avenues doesn't mean I'm going to copy it for one simple reason - because I know better.
I love watching old TV shows, movies, and cartoons, some of which had cringeworthy stereotypes and/or slurs, but supporting the ability to watch such things without their being hacked up (again, I support Buzzr not wanting that crap to air on TV) doesn't mean I support racism or using slurs - it means I support the ideas of 1) preservation and 2) using such incidents as good examples of how monumentally stupid we humans used to be.
clemon79:
--- Quote from: TonicBH on October 30, 2019, 01:08:27 AM ---punching down.
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Not cool, man. Not. Cool.
PPatters:
Unfortunately, I think this has devolved a bit. Ultimately, I know many Little People. (I'm not just saying that. I'm not one of those people who is pretending to know people in a group that doesn't. Through my husband's work, we work a lot with Little People.) They prefer the term Little People, so while it may seem offensive to some who do not identify as Little People, it is the opposite for those who do. (The literally call their national organization Little People of America.) Additionally, they loathe and detest the "m-word." They see it as dehumanizing and have had it thrown at them to make them feel as less-than. If you watch any shows that focus on LPs (e.g., Little People Big World, Little Women, etc...), you'll see that as a common theme. If we can do anything to avoid that word being heard, I don't see it as a problem and I think it's a great thing that Buzzr is doing.
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