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Network Games In The Morning - Would they Survive?

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mmb5:
[quote name=\'Little Big Brother\' date=\'Dec 17 2003, 10:49 PM\'] Although game shows remain popular, I think networks would be reluctant to persue morning game show programming with good reasons.  First off, I doubt any opposing network would really want to go up against TPIR.  Last season, the NBC affiliate in Detroit put Pyramid and Weakest Link in the 11-Noon slot.  TWL is gone and Pyramid was shuffled over to the UPN station at 9 am.

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 Actually the current Detroit CBS station has Guiding Light on at 10 AM because the previous CBS station had it at 10, well before the court show glut.  IIRC, there was no FF '94 in Detroit (or it aired on another station).

Also, Pyramid was shuttled off to UPN because the NBC station was forced to pick up Jack and Ali, which they really didn't want, but it was sold to all Post-Newsweek stations.  Pyramid actually beat TPIR in the ratings last year, but now TPIR has reclaimed the #2 spot at 11 AM in Detroit.



--Mike

inturnaround:
Network programming during the daytime has decreased over the years as the affiliates want the time for lucrative syndicated programming. I mean, look at the ABC O&Os. They're booked solid in the morning with Disney shows. 9AM is Regis and Kelly, 10AM is Wayne Brady and 11AM is the only morning hour that belongs to the network with "The View".

I don't think the game are coming from the networks anymore. It doesn't make much sense for them to do it. It's much cheaper for them to produce a newsmagazine than a game show. No, syndication is where game shows will stay.

Now, as to would they survive...well, putting aside what I said about the network's willingness to show them, I don't know. I think everything is cyclical, but it could be that the game show spot in the cycle has been coopted by other things. It's all about the right game for the right time and there's no science that can tell you what might work.

SRIV94:
[quote name=\'inturnaround\' date=\'Dec 18 2003, 08:32 AM\'] Network programming during the daytime has decreased over the years as the affiliates want the time for lucrative syndicated programming. I mean, look at the ABC O&Os. They're booked solid in the morning with Disney shows. 9AM is Regis and Kelly, 10AM is Wayne Brady and 11AM is the only morning hour that belongs to the network with "The View".
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 Not to take from your point, which is a good one, but consider that ABC O&O WLS in Chicago doesn't even carry two of the three shows you mentioned.  R&K airs on WGN (local feed only, not superstation) on a three-hour delay and Brady's show airs on independent WCIU opposite WLS' broadcast of THE VIEW.  Of course, as long as Oprah continues to rake 'em in there's no reason for WLS to carry any of those other syndie shows (Oprah's big enough--you can take that any way you want--to have her show carried twice by WLS, the second time making JIMMY KIMMEL LIVE JIMMY KIMMEL TAPED).

Doug

Jimmy Owen:
[quote name=\'mmb5\' date=\'Dec 18 2003, 08:37 AM\']
Actually the current Detroit CBS station has Guiding Light on at 10 AM because the previous CBS station had it at 10, well before the court show glut.  IIRC, there was no FF '94 in Detroit (or it aired on another station).

Also, Pyramid was shuttled off to UPN because the NBC station was forced to pick up Jack and Ali, which they really didn't want, but it was sold to all Post-Newsweek stations.  Pyramid actually beat TPIR in the ratings last year, but now TPIR has reclaimed the #2 spot at 11 AM in Detroit.



--Mike [/quote]
 Only Detroiters would be interested, but the CBS Feud started on Ch. 2 and finished its run on  ch. 38. The syndie Combs Feud went from Ch. 2 to Ch 62 (before it became a CBS O&O).  The Dawson Feud of 94 was on Channel 50 at noon for only a half hour.

Starkman:
Also bear in mind that there are fewer people actually watching tv at those hours these days. Thus less variety as many target demos are out at work at these times.

Also a note about Match Game, correct me if im wrong but wasnt its heyday when it aired in the (long lost to the networks) afternoon time slot to catch the after school HS/college crowd.

And I always thought regis was an ABC show...shows how much I know hehe.

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