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PYL and/or Whammy: Your views
SRIV94:
[quote name=\'JayC\' date=\'Dec 11 2003, 04:21 PM\'] What's B&E? Sorry if that's a stupid question.
OT: This is my 100th post! [/quote]
Barry & Enright (as in producers of TJW, TTD, BULLSEYE, PTP and countless others--OK, maybe not countless).
And congrats on 100. But when you've done 209, you've really done something. :)
Hey, I beat Zach to the punch. Howzabouthat?
Doug
PeterMarshallFan:
I like PYL because underneath all the silliness, there is one heck of an exciting, high-stakes game behind it. I see it in the same vein as shows like High Rollers--intriguing luck games where big money could be right around the corner, or a mile away [of course, there was some element of knowledge in the front game of HR, but the Big Numbers was all luck]
The Ol' Guy:
You picked a pair of favorites with PYL and The Joker's Wild (Barry days), because they both had a wonderful balance of knowledge AND luck. With Joker, you could know 2 or 3 of the category subjects well, but if the wheels didn't go your way, you were dead. Second Chance/PYL the same. True, the questions weren't at Jeopardy level, but a viewer who feels threatened by the question level (we all know people who say, "I don't like Jeopardy. I can't answer a single question!"), won't tune in. Question difficulty should be matched with the stakes - and neither were big money games (like Twenty-One). Joker was a pleasant challenge, PYL is fun, just like a trip to a Vegas dice table. And here's as good a place as any to throw out another idea: thinking about the difference between most G-T games and most B&E games, I can see why Jack Barry's stay at G-T was short-lived. I'd say a lot of G-T games could be called "the thinking man's games", vs. Barry's and others' quizzes being " the knowing man's games." A lot of GT games depended on logic and deduction, others depended on recall. Any thoughts?
tyshaun1:
[quote name=\'PeterMarshallFan\' date=\'Dec 11 2003, 05:35 PM\'] I like PYL because underneath all the silliness, there is one heck of an exciting, high-stakes game behind it. I see it in the same vein as shows like High Rollers--intriguing luck games where big money could be right around the corner, or a mile away [of course, there was some element of knowledge in the front game of HR, but the Big Numbers was all luck] [/quote]
I agree wholeheartedly with George. PYL was never meant to tax anyone's brain, especially with the questions- simply put, it helps with viewer play along, and PYL needed all the play along it could get. The show overall was never meant to be taken seriously, with the Whammies, Peter Tomarken's silliness, and the loopy contestants they had on the show. It was just a nice escape for 30 minutes, and if the game was played right, it could provide some exciting moments.
Whammy!'s problems, IMO, stem(ed) from the sheer lack of play along value (1 question round, Big Bank added usually what, 1 question more?), the lack of charm of the Whammy (again, IMO), and the lack of warmth from Todd Newton (on that show, I actually like Todd overall).
gameshowguy2000:
I prefer Whammy over the Classic PYL. You know why?
Well, the rules of Whammy's first round are easier to learn than that of the Classic PYL's first round:
Whammy: Hit a whammy in the first round, and you're done for the rest of the round. Easier than......
Classic PYL: Peter Tomarken always talked about getting 4 whammies in the first round. Very, very, very confusing rule. Does that mean the player who hits 4 whammies in Round 1 can't participate in any part of Round 2 (Question Round or Big Board)?
Also, the Big Bank idea for Whammy is a good idea. That's another reason why I like it over the Classic PYL.
Also, I don't understand why, on the Classic PYL, a player's scoreboard is turned off permanently when they he or she gets 4 whammies. Why can't they just put the score on $0? This lets the audience and home viewers know, "Oh, that player is not only out of the game, that player's score will stay at $0 for the REST of the game!
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