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The Top 10 Gameshow Newsmakers...
Matt Ottinger:
--- Quote ---There are a few good ones in there, but the original post specified news items. "The continued success of The Price Is Right" no more qualifies as a news item than "George W. Bush continues to be president" or "Jack Barry is still dead".
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Fair enough, but most of the guy's items weren't like that, and there are certainly ways to word the TPIR "story" in a more newsworthy structure. "TPIR becomes the longest-running game show in history" or something like that.
--- Quote ---Celebrity deaths practically always make news. Why is the passing of Ray Combs or Peggy Cass more momentous in the world of game shows than that of, say, Dan Enright (whose passing was also given news coverage)?
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Well, he didn't include Peggy Cass on his list. He named only two notable deaths, both of whom were active in the business at the time of their passing, and both of which were surprises to the public. I'm not defending how the news industry works, but those deaths are typically considered bigger stories than the advanced-age deaths of people who had been out of the business for years.
Barker and the Models? Sure, a great story. There are some others too that could certainly be considered Top Ten-worthy. But especially compared to some of the other choices people are offering, I just wanted to compliment inturnaround for putting some thought into his choices.
chris319:
--- Quote ---most of the guy's items weren't like that, and there are certainly ways to word the TPIR "story" in a more newsworthy structure. "TPIR becomes the longest-running game show in history" or something like that.
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A milestone such as TPIR's XXXXth episode or XXth anniversary or TPIR breaking a previously-existing record is a story. That TPIR was on the air today as it was yesterday and the day before is right up there with "TPIR is nu-nu-nu".
--- Quote ---Well, he didn't include Peggy Cass on his list. He named only two notable deaths, both of whom were active in the business at the time of their passing, and both of which were surprises to the public. I'm not defending how the news industry works, but those deaths are typically considered bigger stories than the advanced-age deaths of people who had been out of the business for years.
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Peggy Cass came up in a subsequent list. In terms of the general media you are correct but in the trades Goodson probably got bigger play than Peggy. The general media liked the Ray Combs story because of the unusual circumstances and salacious allegations of marital infidelity and drug use.
inturnaround:
Well, if intention means anything then I'll clarify my intentions on the TPiR entry. What I meant about continued success is that it kept bulldozing television records and became a legend. 20 years ago, the show was 11 years old in the Barker incarnation. A great run, sure, but not legendary by any means. Since then it's broken about every television record it could and lasted far longer than anyone could ever have imagined. If that's not newsworthy then I don't know what is.
The deaths of Ray Combs and Johnny Olsen made my list simply because they were still doing game shows at the time and they shocked viewers when they heard about it. I suppose an argument could be made than Johnny O's death was less shocking than Ray's and as such less newsworthy, but hey...I wrote the darn thing in 5 minutes...what do ya want from me? :)
So, here's a revised, leaner and meaner top 10 (again in no particular order):
1. The creation of Game Show Network
2. The rise and fall of Primetime network game shows (beginning with WWTBAM)
3. Michael Larsen's legendary run on PYL
4. The Major cheating scandal on WWTBAM
5. The death of Johnny Olsen
6. The return of Richard Dawson to FF
7. The blurring of the line between game show and unscripted event television
8. TPiR becomes longest running game show in history
9. The suicide of Ray Combs
10. The end of the daytime network gameshow (except TPiR)
It's all my opinion, of course, and subject to debate (which I love about this place), but I feel this is a solid place to start.
tommycharles:
[quote name=\'inturnaround\' date=\'Oct 31 2003, 02:02 PM\'] 6. The return of Richard Dawson to FF
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I wasn't in the country or old enough to care at the time, but was this really big news? It doesn't seem to me that it was that big of an event.
BrandonFG:
[quote name=\'tommycharles\' date=\'Oct 31 2003, 02:18 PM\'] [quote name=\'inturnaround\' date=\'Oct 31 2003, 02:02 PM\'] 6. The return of Richard Dawson to FF
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I wasn't in the country or old enough to care at the time, but was this really big news? It doesn't seem to me that it was that big of an event. [/quote]
Not hardly. I didn't even know he was going to be the host until that season's premiere.
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