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« Reply #15 on: January 20, 2008, 07:33:21 AM »
[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'175582\' date=\'Jan 20 2008, 06:04 AM\']
May we add the 13 or so ABC "Super Jeopardy" episodes to the total?[/quote]And, for that matter, Jep!.  (Yes, I realize it was a poor version of the franchise, but still...)
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« Reply #16 on: January 20, 2008, 12:01:12 PM »
Before I'd add Jep!, I'd add Rock and Roll Jeopardy!
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« Reply #17 on: January 25, 2008, 12:55:06 AM »
Time to find out what we messed up:
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'175552\' date=\'Jan 19 2008, 07:00 PM\']More and more often, the terminology is getting blurred anyway.  I just heard that Survivor is about to start its seventeenth season.  Funny, I don't remember it debuting in 1991.[/quote]
The upcoming Fans vs. Faves is the 16th season, not 17th.

/America's Next Top Model calls them "cycles"
//only current prime time shows with more seasons than Survivor: the original Law & Order, Cops, America's Most Wanted, 60 Minutes, America's Funniest Home Videos, and The Simpsons
///Cops was borne of the 1988 writers' strike
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« Reply #18 on: January 25, 2008, 01:29:46 AM »
[quote name=\'GS Warehouse\' post=\'176196\' date=\'Jan 24 2008, 11:55 PM\']
//only current prime time shows with more seasons than Survivor: the original Law & Order, Cops, America's Most Wanted, 60 Minutes, America's Funniest Home Videos, and The Simpsons
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If I may double-nitpick :D .. Does 60 Minutes technically count as primetime even though it starts an hour before the standard 8/7c - 11/10c?
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« Reply #19 on: January 25, 2008, 03:22:11 AM »
[quote name=\'lobster\' post=\'176205\' date=\'Jan 25 2008, 01:29 AM\']
[quote name=\'GS Warehouse\' post=\'176196\' date=\'Jan 24 2008, 11:55 PM\']
//only current prime time shows with more seasons than Survivor: the original Law & Order, Cops, America's Most Wanted, 60 Minutes, America's Funniest Home Videos, and The Simpsons
[/quote]

If I may double-nitpick :D .. Does 60 Minutes technically count as primetime even though it starts an hour before the standard 8/7c - 11/10c?
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Primetime starts at 7pm.  That's why WOF and J! are in what is called "primetime access."

I think "Survivor" should only be credited with the TV seasons it ran, not the short flights within the seasons.
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« Reply #20 on: January 25, 2008, 04:07:47 AM »
[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'176215\' date=\'Jan 25 2008, 12:22 AM\']
[quote name=\'lobster\' post=\'176205\' date=\'Jan 25 2008, 01:29 AM\']
If I may double-nitpick :D .. Does 60 Minutes technically count as primetime even though it starts an hour before the standard 8/7c - 11/10c?[/quote]Primetime starts at 7pm.[/quote]
The East and West Coasts disagree with you. "Prime access" <> "prime time."

Anyhow, per the Wiki article (apply usual caveats, especially since there are no sources cited), it says that Sunday night prime time does in fact begin at 7, so 60 Minutes would count.
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« Reply #21 on: January 25, 2008, 08:04:13 AM »
[quote name=\'GS Warehouse\' post=\'176196\' date=\'Jan 25 2008, 12:55 AM\']
//only current prime time shows with more seasons than Survivor: the original Law & Order, Cops, America's Most Wanted, 60 Minutes, America's Funniest Home Videos, and The Simpsons

[/quote]

First, you forgot 20/20, 48 Hours,  Dateline, and maybe Prime Time(on hiatus but supposed to return), depends on if you count the years it was called 20/20.

Second if you are going to compare longetivity of shows you have to count year or TV Seaons either wheather a show aired somtime between  Sept to Sept or May to May like the Emmys,

I just don't buy Survivor has had more "seasons" than than King of the Hill or ER!
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« Reply #22 on: January 25, 2008, 09:27:17 AM »
I'd say for purposes of counting, 2 seasons equals one year for Survivor.  Then again, that's still 8 years.  And each year is well over the standard 22 eps.
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« Reply #23 on: January 25, 2008, 10:30:34 AM »
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'176218\' date=\'Jan 25 2008, 04:07 AM\']Anyhow, per the Wiki article (apply usual caveats, especially since there are no sources cited), it says that Sunday night prime time does in fact begin at 7, so 60 Minutes would count.[/quote]
We don't have to trust Wiki on this one.  Anyone who's taken TV 101 knows that network prime time television is 8-11 (ET) Monday through Saturday and 7-11 (ET) on Sunday.  One only has to look at the programming to see that.  (FOX only programs through 10pm and the smaller netlets may do even less, I'm not sure.)

For the record, in its first few seasons 60 Minutes aired as early as 6pm and alternated with another news program week to week.
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« Reply #24 on: January 25, 2008, 10:39:17 AM »
[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'175582\' date=\'Jan 20 2008, 06:04 AM\']May we add the 13 or so ABC "Super Jeopardy" episodes to the total?[/quote][quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'175586\' date=\'Jan 20 2008, 07:33 AM\']And, for that matter, Jep!.  (Yes, I realize it was a poor version of the franchise, but still...)[/quote][quote name=\'Jay Temple\' post=\'175593\' date=\'Jan 20 2008, 12:01 PM\']Before I'd add Jep!, I'd add Rock and Roll Jeopardy![/quote]
I had considered and decided not to include Rock & Roll Jeopardy, but had completely forgotten Super Jeopardy and Jep.  Of course even adding all three doesn't dramatically change our total (maybe a hundred more?)

[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'175557\' date=\'Jan 19 2008, 08:35 PM\']Well, if you want numbers...Price hits 6,800 at the end of this coming week.[/quote]
In a Golden Road thread, I came up with about 2500 Cullen episodes day and night.  So if we're combining all versions and looking at sheer tonnage we've got about 9300 Price to 8300 Jeopardy.  So even though Jeopardy is making a few more weeks of shows than Price each season, it would still be a few decades before they caught up.
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« Reply #25 on: January 25, 2008, 12:12:19 PM »
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'176234\' date=\'Jan 25 2008, 09:30 AM\']
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'176218\' date=\'Jan 25 2008, 04:07 AM\']Anyhow, per the Wiki article (apply usual caveats, especially since there are no sources cited), it says that Sunday night prime time does in fact begin at 7, so 60 Minutes would count.[/quote]
We don't have to trust Wiki on this one.  Anyone who's taken TV 101 knows that network prime time television is 8-11 (ET) Monday through Saturday and 7-11 (ET) on Sunday.  One only has to look at the programming to see that.  (FOX only programs through 10pm and the smaller netlets may do even less, I'm not sure.)

For the record, in its first few seasons 60 Minutes aired as early as 6pm and alternated with another news program week to week.
[/quote]

And in the mid-70s, before the changes were made to prime access that started prime time at 7 p.m. on Sundays, "60 Minutes" aired at 6 p.m. on Sundays, leading most people to think that the show was on its way to death, like so many similarly-scheduled news programs.  Little did they know...
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« Reply #26 on: January 25, 2008, 01:58:23 PM »
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'176234\' date=\'Jan 25 2008, 07:30 AM\']
We don't have to trust Wiki on this one.  Anyone who's taken TV 101 knows that network prime time television is 8-11 (ET) Monday through Saturday and 7-11 (ET) on Sunday.[/quote]
I agree with you, but at the same time I wanted to do a little better than "Well, any idiot knows that. Why? Just 'cuz."

And yeah, CW (I almost called it WB) and MyNetwork both close up shop at 10:00P too.
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« Reply #27 on: January 25, 2008, 08:06:06 PM »
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'176238\' date=\'Jan 25 2008, 10:39 AM\'][quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'175557\' date=\'Jan 19 2008, 08:35 PM\']Well, if you want numbers...Price hits 6,800 at the end of this coming week.[/quote]In a Golden Road thread, I came up with about 2500 Cullen episodes day and night.  So if we're combining all versions and looking at sheer tonnage we've got about 9300 Price to 8300 Jeopardy.  So even though Jeopardy is making a few more weeks of shows than Price each season, it would still be a few decades before they caught up.[/quote]
On top of that, I was only counting the daytime show...there's also the (at least) 300 episodes of the '70s nighttime show, the 170 Kennedy episodes, the 80 Davidson episodes, the 31 primetime specials, and the three intentionally unaired shows, taking it to 9,884, give or keep a few hundred.

...so yeah, Jeopardy!'s still got a ways to go to beat it.
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« Reply #28 on: January 25, 2008, 11:26:15 PM »
Steve Gavazzi wrote:
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and the three intentionally unaired shows
I'm curious about this.  Why were they intentionally unaired?
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« Reply #29 on: January 25, 2008, 11:31:24 PM »
[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'176314\' date=\'Jan 25 2008, 08:06 PM\']On top of that, I was only counting the daytime show...there's also the (at least) 300 episodes of the '70s nighttime show, the 170 Kennedy episodes, the 80 Davidson episodes, the 31 primetime specials, and the three intentionally unaired shows, taking it to 9,884, give or keep a few hundred.[/quote]
Yowza, I didn't realize that.  How about that, they're probably getting reasonably close to producing the 10,000th episode of The Price Is Right in television history, and the only ones who know (or care) are us!
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