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Brandon Brooks:
[quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' date=\'Jun 24 2003, 05:44 AM\']
--- Quote ---This argument has gone to strictly economics. Just as Chris doesn't watch game shows strictly for the prizes awarded, I for one don't watch a show strictly to see if it's economically sound.
--- End quote ---

Well, here's the problem. Chris (and Brandon and I) were arguing strictly about economics from the get-go. Furthermore, when we say "bad economics makes for a bad game show", we don't mean "I'm watching this show, and I know they can't afford this prize budget, so I don't like it." What we mean is "they can't afford this prize budget, so the show won't last."

The reason we think this way is because the vast majority of people who post "more money for Game Show X would be good" honestly don't see why every show doesn't bump up its jackpot on a regular basis. A few, of course, are actually willing to back it up with hypothetical positive audience response. And a few, sadly, are expressing the thought "I like more money rather than less" as though it were some sort of blinding insight. :) [/quote]
 Well, the problem I have Robert is... well, nothing.

That's exactly what I wanted to say!

Brandon Brooks

DrJWJustice:
[quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' date=\'Jun 24 2003, 05:44 AM\'] The reason we think this way is because the vast majority of people who post "more money for Game Show X would be good" honestly don't see why every show doesn't bump up its jackpot on a regular basis. A few, of course, are actually willing to back it up with hypothetical positive audience response. And a few, sadly, are expressing the thought "I like more money rather than less" as though it were some sort of blinding insight. :) [/quote]
 If you're reading that last sentence into my postings, then you've misstated my argument, and I'm going to leave that where it is.

Economics is a big factor, I agree, but I've also contended (and still do) that there's more to it than economics.  Frankly, through this discourse I've come to view producing a game show as more of an elaborate gambling exercise than anything else, but even that oversimplifies things.  Truth be told, I don't think there's any single 'right' answer.

zachhoran:
I mostly agree with Chris L. about not wanting game shows to get canned in 13 weeks, unless its something really bad like SHopper's Casino or CS2001.

YKW03:
First trip to the new board.... nice digs, folks. :)

Before i get back to the original topic here, i wanted to make one point in regard to the debate over Password's potential payouts: if the game seems too easy, make the words harder. Or increase the time spent talking with stars and players, reducing the amount of time allotted for actual gameplay. Less time for gameplay equals less time for winning money.

Things like that are what runthroughs exist to work out. I guarantee you, studio execs will have made it sufficiently difficult -- but far from impossible -- to take home the top prize by the time any proposal is ready to air that it will be highly unlikely that the prize budget allocation will be exceeded.

With that out of the way.....

YKW03:
Can I just say how much I hate the 4K post size limit? I can't? Darn.... oh, well.....



I've had this thing lying around forever; a few timing changes were needed to bring it down to a 19 minute format, but use in a 20, 21 or 22 minute version would require very simple changes.

Open (00:00-00:30) - Announcer introduces two celebs (with some identifying credit) who enter stage and walk to desk set; announcer says \"...and they're here to play 'Password'!\"; announcer introduces host who walks to center of desk set; end music; end applause.

Rules (00:30-01:00) - Host: \"Welcome to Password, the game where a little second-guessing can win big money! The object is for our contestants to guess the password with a little help from their celebrity partners. Our stars give the clues, and our contestants give the answers. Give the right answers, and we give you the money. In round one, we warm up with simple Password: our stars have three seconds to give a clue for each Password, and our contestants have three seconds to respond. Our teams alternate until one gets the Password correct or thirty seconds has passed. Each correct guess is worth $250. [insert name of celebrity 1]'s team won the toss; let's play Password!\"

Basic Password (01:00-04:30)

Outro (04:30-04:45) - Host: \"Time's up! At the end of round one, {insert name of celeb whose team leads]'s team is ahead, but Password Plus is up next, where the stakes are higher and it's still anyone's game. Back with Password Plus in a moment.\"

Break (04:45-06:45)

Tease (06:45-06:50) - Announcer: \"We'll return with Password Plus in one minute.\"

Break (06:50-07:50)

Banter (07:50-09:20) - Host talks with celebs about current projects, celebs introduce contestants; contestants give very short bios.

Rules (09:20-09:40) - Host: \"Time to play Password Plus! If our stars will switch seats\" [celebs swap partners], we'll begin. It's just like Password, but each password is a clue to a larger puzzle. If our contestants can solve that puzzle, they'll win another thousand dollars. Now that our stars are seated, let's play Password Plus! [insert leading contestant's name] was ahead after our first round, so [insert contestant's celeb here] gets the first word.\"

Password Plus 1 (09:40-11:40) - Play same as Basic Password until word solved; host notes $250 win for solving word, gives contestant three seconds to guess puzzle; puzzles have five clues; if puzzle unsolved by contestant with control after fifth clue, other team has three seconds to confer and answer to \"steal\" the puzzle and its money.

Outro (11:40-11:50) - Host: \"We've reached the halfway point in Password Plus with [insert leading celeb's name]'s team in the lead, but there's still plenty of time, and anything can happen! We'll be back for the conclusion of Password Plus and see who plays for as much as $25000 -- or more -- after this.\"

Break (11:40-13:40)

Contestant Plug (13:40-13:50)

Break (13:50-15:50)

Password Plus 2 (15:50-19:20) - Host recaps scores, reminds audience who had control before break, play continues from Super Password 1.

Loser Farewell (19:20-19:50) - Host: \"Time's up in Password Plus! [winner] is ahead with [x] dollars, so he/she'll be going on to play Super Password for a chance to multiply that total by ten, or [10x] dollars!!! [loser] won't be going away empty-handed, though, with a total of [y] dollars!!! {winner], decide which star you want to work with, and we'll be back to play Super Password in a moment!!!\"

Break (19:50-21:50)

Tease (21:50-22:00) - Announcer: \"Stay tuned; the big money Super Password is coming up in two minutes!\"

Break (22:00-23:00)

Super Password (23:00-27:00) - Gameplay same as Alphabetics; $500 extra for each word of the ten guessed unless contestants finish the board in ten seconds; running board results in previous winnings being multiplied by ten.

Sponsor Plugs / Credits (27:00-30:00)

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