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catnap1972:
[quote name=\'tommycharles\' date=\'Oct 13 2003, 11:50 AM\'] I think he's trying to say that if they're going to spend money on something and let it fly down the toilet, they would be better to save the money. [/quote]
That whole statement from them about the classic Squares shows "not bringing in ratings from the desirable demographic" bothers me. You mean the brass didn't have a clue that anyone under 30 or so probaly wouldn't even remember those shows (or many of the celebrities) beforehand?
Matt Ottinger:
[quote name=\'catnap1972\' date=\'Oct 13 2003, 12:11 PM\'] That whole statement from them about the classic Squares shows "not bringing in ratings from the desirable demographic" bothers me. You mean the brass didn't have a clue that anyone under 30 or so probaly wouldn't even remember those shows (or many of the celebrities) beforehand? [/quote]
So now they're being faulted for even trying? Look, it's real simple. They put Hollywood Squares on the air. It didn't give them the ratings they needed and/or wanted. They took Hollywood Squares off the air.
[quote name=\'tommycharles\' date=\'Oct 13 2003, 11:50 AM\'] I think he's trying to say that if they're going to spend money on something and let it fly down the toilet, they would be better to save the money. [/quote]
I have yet to see in what way they "let" HS fly down the toilet. They gave it a chance, as I recall they promoted it pretty heavily, and it didn't do for them what they wanted it to do. So now it's not on the schedule anymore.
That's what happens. Shows come and go on every network all the time. You guys still see GSN as a museum with regular, rotating exhibits ("When is Now You See It coming back?") rather than a television business trying to evolve, grow and reach more viewers.
tommycharles:
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Oct 13 2003, 11:30 AM\']
[quote name=\'tommycharles\' date=\'Oct 13 2003, 11:50 AM\'] I think he's trying to say that if they're going to spend money on something and let it fly down the toilet, they would be better to save the money. [/quote]
I have yet to see in what way they "let" HS fly down the toilet. They gave it a chance, as I recall they promoted it pretty heavily, and it didn't do for them what they wanted it to do. So now it's not on the schedule anymore.
That's what happens. Shows come and go on every network all the time. You guys still see GSN as a museum with regular, rotating exhibits ("When is Now You See It coming back?") rather than a television business trying to evolve, grow and reach more viewers. [/quote]
I understand that they didn't do anything wrong - ok "let" was the wrong word. They experimented, and it didn't go well. Many people thought that they didn't do enough and people got sick of reruns. I don't agree with that - assuming that the members of this forum don't count as the "general" GSN viewer (and in the grand scheme of things, we don't), no one will tune in to Marshall HS and notice the secret square prize and say "oh, I've seen this one. I'll go watch Blind Date now"
People just didn't see the show as "appointment television" - not that people plan things around television, but something people watch when it's on, generally. There was absolutely nothing GSN could do, short of jump in the time machine and tell HQ to appeal more to 18-34's...
Their only fault that I can figure out without the data in front of me is not dumping it earlier. They were obviously using it as a filler after a while (which might have been for B&WO reasons, or just pure filler), and they shouldn't have left it on if there was something else to go in its place. They dump things when they get low ratings all the time (Trap, Trivia and Plus, Password). This was just a wierd occurance.
But hey, we got a show that hasn't been seen in decades for 18 months. I'm happy.
melman1:
But if viewers are making a show "appointment television", wouldn't they have noticed the endless cycle of repeats?
I wonder if they really had 150 shows. Seems like shows were repeated way too often for that.
FWIW, I doubt that GSN has any meaningful way to measure ratings. (Meaningful to anyone not "in the biz", that is.)
uncamark:
[quote name=\'catnap1972\' date=\'Oct 13 2003, 11:11 AM\'][quote name=\'tommycharles\' date=\'Oct 13 2003, 11:50 AM\'] I think he's trying to say that if they're going to spend money on something and let it fly down the toilet, they would be better to save the money. [/quote]
That whole statement from them about the classic Squares shows "not bringing in ratings from the desirable demographic" bothers me. You mean the brass didn't have a clue that anyone under 30 or so probaly wouldn't even remember those shows (or many of the celebrities) beforehand?[/quote]
My guess is that they were hoping that the kids had heard of Paul Lynde and wanted to see him in action--after all, it seems like that there are enough people who want to see Brett, Charles and Richard in action every day--and "MG"'s success paralleled "Squares"' height of syndication success. Remember that Lynde was featured in every single promo for the show (my favorite--"The Paul Lynde School of Comedy").
Turns out they were wrong.
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