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GSRebich

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UKF to USF/GBP to USD: Hollywood Squares
« on: January 08, 2023, 10:22:19 PM »
This is the first of my series of posts for foreign game show formats to USA game show formats and foreign values to USA values. It's about what would if a foreign format of a US game show would be used on the original American version and it's foreign values would be converted to the US values and I'm starting off with "Hollywood Squares", using the format from the British version: "Celebrity Squares".

Since each square and game was worth £10 on the original 1975-9 ATV version of "Celebrity Squares", each square and game would be worth $50, if the US version used the UK format. I chose $50 since that's how much each individual square was worth on the Peter Marshall nighttime versions for an unfinished game.

In the final round, the winning contestant can either go for an additional $500 or risk their front game money and "Secret Square" prizes for a chance to increase his/her cash winnings to $5,000. If s/he fails to win the $500, s/he earned $25 for each correct answer; if s/he goes for the $5,000 and fail won nothing additional. Since £100 was the regular prize in the final round, it was 10 times the front game value and $50x10 equals $500; since £1000 was the big prize in the final round, it was 100 times the front game value and $50x100 equals $5,000; and since £5 was consolution prize in the final round, it was 50% of the front game value and $50/2 equals $25.

For the 1993-8 Central and Reg Grundy Productions version, I would converted the values from that version to the 1987-89 John Davidson values (since that version's ending year (1989) was closer the C and RG version's starting year (1993). Since each of the first 2 games on the Davidson were worth $500 then each square would be $100, if that version used the 1993-8 UK format. And for the 3rd game, the values would double to $1,000 for winning the round won and $200 for each square captured. If there enough time for a 4th round, the values would double again to $2,000 for winning the round and $400 for each square captured. This is due to the fact that each square in the first rounds on the 1993-8 UK version was worth £10 and winning the round was £50; in the 3rd round each square was worth £20 and winning the round was worth £100, and in the 4th round each square was worth £40 and winning the round was worth £200, the square values wer 20% of the round values and $500/5 equals $100, $1,000/5 equals $200, and $2,000/5 equals $400.

And for the 2014-5 UK version (that was hosted by Wicket the Ewok and Willow), I would converted the values from that version to the 1999-03 Tom Bergeron values (since that version's ending year (1989) was closer the Warwick Davis version's starting year (2014). Since each of the first 2 games on the Bergeron version from 1999-03 were worth $1,000 then each square would be $100, if that version used the 2014-5 UK format. And for the 3rd game, the values would double to $2,000 for each round won and $200 for each square captured. This is due to the fact that each square in the first rounds on the 2014-5 UK version was worth £50 and winning the round was £500 and in the 5th round on the 2014 series and 3rd round on the 2015 each square was £100 and winning the round was worth £1000, the square values was 10% of the round values and $1,000/10 equals $100; and $2,000/10 equals $200.

In the final round of the Warwick Davis version, the cash prize will be worth $40,000 for the first series and $50,000 for the second series. If s/he fails to win either cash prize, s/he earned $2,000 for each correct answer. Since £20,000 was the cash prize in the final round in the first series, it was either 400 times the square value in the first 2 rounds of the front game, 40 times the round value in the first 2 rounds of the front game, 200 times the square value in the 3rd and each subsequent round or 20 times the round value in the 3rd and each subsequent round and $100x400, $1,000X40, $200x200, and $2,000x20 all equals $40,000; since £25,000 was the big prize in the final round in the second series, it was either 500 times the square value in the first 2 rounds of the front game, 50 times the round value in the first 2 rounds of the front game, 250 times the square value in the 3rd and each subsequent round or 25 times the round value in the 3rd and each subsequent round and $100x500, $1,000X50, $200x250, and $2,000x25 all equals $50,000; and since £1000 was consolution prize in the final round in both series, it it was either 20 times the square value in the first 2 rounds of the front game, 2 times the round value in the first 2 rounds of the front game, 10 times the square value in the 3rd and each subsequent round or exactly the same the round value in the 3rd and each subsequent round and $100x20, $1,000x2, $200x10, and $2,000x1 all equals $2,000.

And that's what it would be like if "Hollywood Squares" would use the format of the UK version: "Celebrity Squares".

Steve Gavazzi

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Re: UKF to USF/GBP to USD: Hollywood Squares
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2023, 02:08:09 AM »
That was an awful lot of words to use to say pretty much nothing.

This is the first of my series of posts for foreign game show formats to USA game show formats and foreign values to USA values.

Can it also be the last one?

Please?

GSRebich

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Re: UKF to USF/GBP to USD: Hollywood Squares
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2023, 02:50:24 AM »
This wouldn't be the last. The next one will be shorter.

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Re: UKF to USF/GBP to USD: Hollywood Squares
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2023, 12:25:51 PM »
Josh. Your first entry has been received negatively by all who have read it and commented. What makes you think that future installments will be met with acclaim?
« Last Edit: January 09, 2023, 02:06:08 PM by TLEberle »
Travis L. Eberle

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Re: UKF to USF/GBP to USD: Hollywood Squares
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2023, 01:35:39 PM »
This wouldn't be the last. The next one will be shorter.

So, I'm gonna be that guy.

The problem isn't length.  The problem is content. 

Comprehension of your post requires that one has seen ATV Celebrity Squares at all, which not all of us have done.  Explaining how the cash values would convert to America doesn't actually do anything for us if we don't have enough knowledge of the source material to know why it matters. 

If you wanted to (for example) compare different version of squares and how different endgames from different eras and different countries worked, and whether they could stand as written or need to be adapted to be usable elsewhere, then I'm sure you'd have people bite.  Squares has appeared in literally dozens of countries at this point, and that kind of deep dive could be interesting if you improved your writing style.

Showing how money would be converted from one country to another, though... it's a boring read.  Just is.

Think about your audience, and ask yourself: will other people care about this?  If not... then maybe this isn't the right place to post it, even given the level of minutiae we're obsessed with around here.
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