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Neumms

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Re: What should be the next "classic" revival for prime-time?
« Reply #30 on: September 23, 2019, 12:44:35 PM »
I'm not following. I don't think viewers are going to examine a new, higher stakes Password that deeply, just like they didn't with Pyramid, which Fallon also plays on his show occasionally.

Maybe not, and I didn't know Fallon played Pyramid. It's a moot point if they went '60s retro, which I'd pick and would differentiate it from ABC's reboots. I'd play the original Lightning Round, but add the Magic Toaster. It was fun to play along with and celebrities' frustrations created great moments.

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Re: What should be the next "classic" revival for prime-time?
« Reply #31 on: September 23, 2019, 01:53:34 PM »
Maybe not, and I didn't know Fallon played Pyramid. It's a moot point if they went '60s retro, which I'd pick and would differentiate it from ABC's reboots. I'd play the original Lightning Round, but add the Magic Toaster. It was fun to play along with and celebrities' frustrations created great moments.
Fair, but it goes in line with you wanting a modernized Tattletales set. What does it really add to the show other than you finding it aesthetically pleasing?
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Neumms

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Re: What should be the next "classic" revival for prime-time?
« Reply #32 on: September 23, 2019, 11:23:13 PM »
Fair, but it goes in line with you wanting a modernized Tattletales set. What does it really add to the show other than you finding it aesthetically pleasing?

Isn’t that enough?

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« Reply #33 on: September 23, 2019, 11:47:14 PM »
Fair, but it goes in line with you wanting a modernized Tattletales set. What does it really add to the show other than you finding it aesthetically pleasing?

Isn’t that enough?

Actually, no...more people than not found the "update" set of "Card Sharks" to be unappealing and led to the slowdown of gameplay...

And let's not forget how many people have complained that the added digital screens on "The Price Is Right" have served mostly as a distraction and have done nothing to improve the show itself...

When you consider that "Tattletales" concentrates much on tight one-shots of each celeb during play, lots of big screens and lighted floors serve no purpose and would mostly be a waste for the home viewer...

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Neumms

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Re: What should be the next "classic" revival for prime-time?
« Reply #34 on: September 24, 2019, 10:11:28 AM »
...more people than not found the "update" set of "Card Sharks" to be unappealing and led to the slowdown of gameplay...

And let's not forget how many people have complained that the added digital screens on "The Price Is Right" have served mostly as a distraction and have done nothing to improve the show itself...

I share that opinion on Card Sharks. The problem isn't that they redesigned everything, but that in doing so they changed a King to a 7.

On TPIR, new games originating with digital screens aren't the problem. With Rat Race, the LED works great. With Double Cross, the touch-screen is integral. It's retrofitting old games. The only reason to keep the Bonus Game around rather than replace it entirely with Shell Game was that it was an antique. Also, as we've discussed before, they'd never bother to rig Bonus Game, but it looks like they easily could.

Back to Tattletales, glitz wouldn't be wasted on a show about Hollywood stars. And even if it pleases no one but me, I say do it.
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« Reply #35 on: September 24, 2019, 02:08:25 PM »
Had another thought. Would it be worth it to give Gameshow Marathon another try? Perhaps the climate wasn't right for the show to stick as a yearly summer series back in 2006, but with the ABC bonanza sticking, maybe this has a chance now.

Don't know if I'd give it to Ricki, but I'm not sure who I'd choose in terms of a "name" to host. If name recognition is set aside, I'd choose Mark Walberg or Todd Newton because I believe they could easily adapt to many game show formats.

Don't know if I'd keep the tournament format either. An all-star thing is fine, but just do a "game of the week" self-contained thing. Maybe have a set group of celebs that play each week.
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« Reply #36 on: September 24, 2019, 02:22:34 PM »
Had another thought. Would it be worth it to give Gameshow Marathon another try? Perhaps the climate wasn't right for the show to stick as a yearly summer series back in 2006, but with the ABC bonanza sticking, maybe this has a chance now.

I wonder if a Gameshow Marathon would work with a set of second-tier game shows rather than the famous ones they played last time.  After all, most of those shows have flashy prime-time reboots now, and what would be the point of a separate "Marathon" series that just played those same games every week?  Fremantle owns the rights to so many properties that probably wouldn't deserve a prime-time series of their own, but might be fun to see as a series of one-offs.  Watch a bunch of celebrities play Now You See It one week, and Chain Reaction the next.
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BrandonFG

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Re: What should be the next "classic" revival for prime-time?
« Reply #37 on: September 24, 2019, 02:41:34 PM »
Back to Tattletales, glitz wouldn't be wasted on a show about Hollywood stars. And even if it pleases no one but me, I say do it.
I’d point to TTTT as a nice example of how the set could look, albeit smaller. That’s a very snazzy, contemporary set IMO.

I like the idea of a new GS Marathon with different shows, and minus all the celebs. Crazy how 13 years later, all seven of those shows are currently in production...at least I think Beat the Clock is still airing on cable.
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Re: What should be the next "classic" revival for prime-time?
« Reply #38 on: September 26, 2019, 08:52:37 PM »
You know what would be a fun revival, now that I think about it? The $64,000 Question.

From what I understand, there was a pilot not long after Millionaire debuted in which the top prize was $1,028,000. Feel free to Lesko me on this, but if I was producing it, I'd call it The $6,000,000 Question with $1,000,000 as the final step before the top prize. It'd be interesting to see whether anyone would gamble a million based on their specialist subject.
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Re: What should be the next "classic" revival for prime-time?
« Reply #39 on: September 26, 2019, 08:56:23 PM »
No person would make that bet unless they had been given the answers before.
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BrandonFG

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« Reply #40 on: September 26, 2019, 10:47:31 PM »
You know what would be a fun revival, now that I think about it? The $64,000 Question.

From what I understand, there was a pilot not long after Millionaire debuted in which the top prize was $1,028,000. Feel free to Lesko me on this, but if I was producing it, I'd call it The $6,000,000 Question with $1,000,000 as the final step before the top prize. It'd be interesting to see whether anyone would gamble a million based on their specialist subject.
Going back to my point of how the million dollar wave finally seems to be slowing down, why not just make it The $128/256K Question? The ABC games prove that people will watch the classics in prime time, even without a seven-figure payday. Although, if you wanna adjust $64,000 for inflation from 1955, it would be about 600K, so maybe a $640,000 jackpot isn't necessarily out of the question.

But, I think $256K max is more than enough.
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Re: What should be the next "classic" revival for prime-time?
« Reply #41 on: September 26, 2019, 11:24:36 PM »
But wouldn't your average viewer with no knowledge of game show history just see a version of "The $XXX,000 Question" as little more than a derivative rehashing of WWTBAM?

I believe the era of "answer a question-climb a ladder" has now passed...at least for now...if there is any hope of WWTBAM returning in the classic format to primetime, that kind of show needs a cooling-off period...

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Re: What should be the next "classic" revival for prime-time?
« Reply #42 on: September 26, 2019, 11:26:53 PM »
Going back to my point of how the million dollar wave finally seems to be slowing down, why not just make it The $128/256K Question? The ABC games prove that people will watch the classics in prime time, even without a seven-figure payday. Although, if you wanna adjust $64,000 for inflation from 1955, it would be about 600K, so maybe a $640,000 jackpot isn't necessarily out of the question.

But, I think $256K max is more than enough.

That's fair. Even $128k in 1976 dollars is about $570k today, so I suppose there's no reason it needs to offer an over-the-top jackpot.

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Re: What should be the next "classic" revival for prime-time?
« Reply #43 on: September 26, 2019, 11:47:26 PM »
But wouldn't your average viewer with no knowledge of game show history just see a version of "The $XXX,000 Question" as little more than a derivative rehashing of WWTBAM?

I believe the era of "answer a question-climb a ladder" has now passed...at least for now...if there is any hope of WWTBAM returning in the classic format to primetime, that kind of show needs a cooling-off period...
Both valid points. I've been over the money tree format for at least a decade.
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Re: What should be the next "classic" revival for prime-time?
« Reply #44 on: September 27, 2019, 03:42:49 AM »
Concentration, for sure … and, as either a high school or college game (as was so popular in England for so long), Blockbusters.