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The Pyramids

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Re: Buzzr Discussion
« Reply #450 on: December 04, 2015, 11:01:40 PM »
Thanks Dan. I think 1980 Dawson was what was on GSN in 2007-08, the final period the network had the entire series.

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« Reply #451 on: December 04, 2015, 11:49:18 PM »
Thanks Dan. I think 1980 Dawson was what was on GSN in 2007-08, the final period the network had the entire series.
During that period, they were airing episodes from 1983-1984. They then went back to 1980 in 2009, the year they started leasing certain years of shows.

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« Reply #452 on: December 05, 2015, 01:01:58 AM »
I thought GSN's deal with Fremantle ended right around the time Buzzr was launching, but I can't remember the specifics of the situation. I may be mistaken.
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« Reply #453 on: December 05, 2015, 01:25:49 AM »
The leasing deal with Fremantle ended around 2009 for GSN, but the next year, they went to a 200 or 400 episode lease on each of the remaining shows GSN had on their schedule, later went to 50-100 episode leases in order to make room for new "old" show leases to come in and that would lead to Fremantle working on a project of launching a new game show channel of its own.

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« Reply #454 on: December 05, 2015, 02:04:40 AM »
just a "what if?" I want to toss out.  What if GSN is responsible for Buzzr only having access to such a small number of shows?

Fact:  GSN has had a contract leasing (I guess is the word) shows from Fremantle for a number of years.

Fact:  Buzzr is a competitior to GSN.

What if GSN said to Fremantle, "hey, we don't like this.  Even though we don't use much of your library, who has more viewers?  Who has been a long time customer?  Who has contractual exclusivity (which is a possibility) to your episodes anyway?  Look, let this little channel start up, but only lease them 50 episodes or else we sue you for breach of contract."

Fact (I guess): Buzzr is frustrated over their lack of access to the free mantle episodes, this is the only scenario I can see making sense.

Buzzr and GSN are not in any true competition:  Buzzr is an over-the-air diginet that is not found on a lot of cable or satellite systems.  GSN is a cable-only network that cannot be picked up by rabbit ears over the air.

Perhaps if and when Buzzr gets picked up by DirecTV and Dish and/or when most neighborhood cable systems carry the local Buzzr affiliate (if a local market would even get a local Buzzr affiliate) would there be possible competition. 

At that point, I would think GSN would drop all of their Fremantle leases and increase the amount of their own GSN product, past and present, and ratchet up airing the libraries of Bob Stewart, Barry & Enright, Barris and other shows that are owned by Columbia Tri-Star/Sony.  Any leasing costs would likely be less that what they are paying Fremantle now.

Fremantle can do whatever they want with their shows, and if they want to have a specific series seen across 2 or more different OTA/Cable networks simultaneously, that's their prerogative (see: Feud, Harvey).

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« Reply #455 on: December 05, 2015, 09:38:57 AM »

ratchet up airing the libraries of Bob Stewart, Barry & Enright, Barris and other shows that are owned by Columbia Tri-Star/Sony. 

As awesome as this would be, I can't see it happening. The days of other shows airing from those libraries are long gone...

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« Reply #456 on: December 05, 2015, 10:11:20 AM »

ratchet up airing the libraries of Bob Stewart, Barry & Enright, Barris and other shows that are owned by Columbia Tri-Star/Sony. 

As awesome as this would be, I can't see it happening. The days of other shows airing from those libraries are long gone...

Funny to see how the so-called "Dark Period" of '97-'98 gets "brighter" as the years pass.

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« Reply #457 on: December 05, 2015, 01:45:14 PM »
At that point, I would think GSN would [...] increase the amount of their own GSN product, past and present, and ratchet up airing the libraries of Bob Stewart, Barry & Enright, Barris and other shows that are owned by Columbia Tri-Star/Sony.
Or the Merv Griffin ones, for that matter.

Thanks Dan.
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« Reply #458 on: December 07, 2015, 12:00:49 AM »
And it was back to episode 1 of syndie $ale tonight. You voted! You wanted to see it! You'll get 14 of the first 15 episodes of the series on continuous loop!

I don't get what's going on with Buzzr in the least.
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« Reply #459 on: December 07, 2015, 12:06:04 AM »
And it was back to episode 1 of syndie $ale tonight. You voted! You wanted to see it! You'll get 14 of the first 15 episodes of the series on continuous loop!

I don't get what's going on with Buzzr in the least.

Perhaps they think we all have short attention spans.
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« Reply #460 on: December 07, 2015, 02:06:25 AM »
Perhaps they think we all have short attention spans.

They're a digital subchannel. 99% of the viewers DO have short attention spans.
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Re: Buzzr Discussion
« Reply #461 on: December 07, 2015, 04:29:03 AM »
Perhaps they think we all have short attention spans.

They're a digital subchannel. 99% of the viewers DO have short attention spans.

True.

I'm just wondering at this point how much longer they plan on going through the motions like they seem to be. I don't like the term rerun abuse, but you gotta call it something.
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Re: Buzzr Discussion
« Reply #462 on: December 07, 2015, 12:07:15 PM »
I'm just wondering at this point how much longer they plan on going through the motions like they seem to be.

They're a digital subchannel. They are the 7-Eleven's of broadcasting. They are all ABOUT going through the motions. They fill bandwidth as cheaply as possible. That's what they do.

This is why I keep shaking my head every time I see another indignant post. Frankly, I'm surprised they have done what special projects they have.
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Re: Buzzr Discussion
« Reply #463 on: December 07, 2015, 05:07:09 PM »
Frankly, I'm surprised they have done what special projects they have.

But that's also why the short loop of episodes is so confusing. In addition to things like Buzzr Casino, the channel is still creating new promos for its regular programming, which they wouldn't do if they were concerned only with operating as inexpensively as possible. But they're paying people to generate new content, so why can't they show more than 80 episodes of any given series?

Perhaps the analogy should be Taco Bell, since they're trying to make as many things as they can out of the same few ingredients?

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« Reply #464 on: December 07, 2015, 05:30:23 PM »
This was discussed and explained over at Golden-Road earlier today. The reason for the short loops is because of the costs of digitizing the tapes, and Buzzr needs to see more of a profit in order to get more episodes digitized and hence on the air.
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