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Dan88

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« Reply #15 on: March 06, 2010, 09:36:25 PM »
Could probably continue without Harry Friedmantle, too.
Excuse you, but just what in the hell has Harry Friedman done to justify that comment?
He's also responsible for Donnymid.

/You are aware that he is executive producer of the top two programs in American syndication and that they're in the top two by a margin that is rarely penetrated... right?
Yes, I'm aware that most of America loves the five-a-week gimmickfest that doesn't recognize its origins and the show that's managed to retain its integrity (and theme music!) while embracing its history.

"Wheel of Fortune" may still be popular, but one could take a view that Harry's changes have made it a less enjoyable show.
Indeed. My main beef is the fact that their definition of "history" is skewed (they'll show clips of Edd Byrnes, but not Chuck Woolery) and any attempt to prove them wrong has been shot down from the airwaves (GSN only airing three daytime episodes; the E! True Hollywood Story being shot down from both YouTube and the E! network itself). It had to have been somebody's decision, because I know it's okay to take footage from the collectors if you want to show some. If the show just airs a few clips (with original sounds) of Chuck and Susan, even if they're low-quality, I'll shut up.

Please don't misunderstand me -- I still watch Wheel when I can, but it just isn't the same for me. I might have been born in 1988, but the 1970s-90s era runs circles around the modern-day show, mainly because of the atmosphere (particularly during the Woolery/Stafford period).
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« Reply #16 on: March 06, 2010, 09:46:56 PM »
[quote name=\'Dan88\' post=\'237019\' date=\'Mar 6 2010, 06:36 PM\']I was playing on words, Travis. I very highly doubt that Mr. Friedman reads this or any other message board (including the Sony Boards).[/quote]Of COURSE you were "playing on words". Unfortunately, your assessments seem to be grounded in a plane of reality that is inhabited solely by you, and no one else from this board.
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« Reply #17 on: March 06, 2010, 10:00:53 PM »
[quote name=\'Dan88\' post=\'237019\' date=\'Mar 6 2010, 09:36 PM\']I rest my case.[/quote]...you rest your case with one bad show out of everything he's accomplished? That's like using Showoffs to explain why Mark Goodson is a crappy producer.
[quote name=\'Dan88\' post=\'237019\' date=\'Mar 6 2010, 09:36 PM\']Yes, I am aware that most of America loves the five-a-week gimmickfest that doesn't recognize its origins and the show that has managed to retain its integrity (and theme music!) while embracing its history.[/quote]So then quit your bitching. America clearly doesn't care about everything that you do and they rightly don't have to. Give it up and take up a grievance elsewhere.
[quote name=\'Dan88\' post=\'237019\' date=\'Mar 6 2010, 09:36 PM\']//This is why my signature says "This post is 2010 DB Enterprises, Inc."[/quote]And that's kinda part of why you're not taken very seriously.
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« Reply #18 on: March 06, 2010, 10:41:16 PM »
...you rest your case with one bad show out of everything he's accomplished? That's like using Showoffs to explain why Mark Goodson is a crappy producer.
Friedman hasn't exactly left me feeling positive about his handiwork, especially after rediscovering Donnymid. I don't know exactly why -- something about him just irks me. Also, Showoffs wasn't that bad, but rather a victim of unforeseen circumstances.

So then quit your bitching. America clearly doesn't care about everything that you do and they rightly don't have to. Give it up and take up a grievance elsewhere.
I have no grievances, Chad. I'm not saying that America cares or doesn't care -- the fact that Wheel has remained very popular, despite its gimmicks, is because of its solid format.

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//This is why my signature says "This post is 2010 DB Enterprises, Inc."
And that's kinda part of why you're not taken very seriously.
I've changed my signature -- less childish, I suppose, and more mature-sounding. I'm not trying to offend anybody here -- I'm relatively new, and I have the ability to post freely so the admins are obviously trusting me to not be a moron. I'm not trying to sound like a moron, an idiot, or a guy stuck in a time before he was even born. And I don't want to screw up again.

I apologize for my boorish attitude, and my lack of level-headedness.
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« Reply #19 on: March 06, 2010, 11:59:50 PM »
[quote name=\'Dan88\' post=\'237036\' date=\'Mar 6 2010, 09:41 PM\']My assessments are my opinion. And I am quite sane, thank you. 0_0[/quote]
In your opinion, sure.

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« Reply #20 on: March 08, 2010, 09:38:41 AM »
[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'237006\' date=\'Mar 6 2010, 04:56 PM\'][quote name=\'Neumms\' post=\'236992\' date=\'Mar 6 2010, 03:47 PM\']"Wheel of Fortune" may still be popular, but one could take a view that Harry's changes have made it a less enjoyable show.[/quote]And if something is popular, isn't it usually inherent that the product is being enjoyed?
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Just because something is being enjoyed today doesn't mean that it wasn't more enjoyable in the past.  Isn't that why nostalgia exists?

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« Reply #21 on: March 08, 2010, 12:32:19 PM »
[quote name=\'Mr. Armadillo\' post=\'237142\' date=\'Mar 8 2010, 09:38 AM\']Just because something is being enjoyed today doesn't mean that it wasn't more enjoyable in the past.  Isn't that why nostalgia exists?[/quote]
My 2 cents says it exists because your view of the world has changed and it's not how you expected or wanted it to be.  I can't speak for everyone else (or every other person my age) but 10-15 years ago, I certainly wasn't thinking about money management, finding a better job, maintaining a relationship, keeping myself not depressed, living by myself, or "The Issues."

When people say "times were simpler," it's not necessarily because there was less in the world, it's because they didn't have to worry about them.
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