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tvwxman

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« Reply #15 on: August 30, 2008, 08:37:50 AM »
[quote name=\'davemackey\' post=\'195531\' date=\'Aug 30 2008, 07:22 AM\']
[quote name=\'rugrats1\' post=\'195497\' date=\'Aug 29 2008, 09:50 PM\']
The 1990 "Tic Tac Dough"? The theme seemed to be more fitting for a kids' show.
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What a comedown for the man who wrote "Moon River".

/Johnny Mercer wrote the lyrics
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Robert Hutchinson

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« Reply #16 on: August 30, 2008, 12:09:27 PM »
I think that the Blockbusters '87 theme fit the game a lot better than the 1980 theme, even though I like the latter piece of music a lot more.
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tvwxman

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« Reply #17 on: August 30, 2008, 12:37:35 PM »
I'm a-gonna catch heat for this one:

$20,000 Pyramid (ABC) - The PERFECT matched theme for the PERFECT show.

$25,000 Pyramid (CBS) - The worst theme for the PERFECT show. I think it's too sappy and slow for such a dramatic show. I'm just not a fan of this theme at all.
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« Reply #18 on: August 30, 2008, 12:49:12 PM »
[quote name=\'tvwxman\' post=\'195545\' date=\'Aug 30 2008, 12:37 PM\']
I'm a-gonna catch heat for this one:

$20,000 Pyramid (ABC) - The PERFECT matched theme for the PERFECT show.

$25,000 Pyramid (CBS) - The worst theme for the PERFECT show. I think it's too sappy and slow for such a dramatic show. I'm just not a fan of this theme at all.
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100% agreement here.  The 80's version is Muzak, zaps all of the energy away.


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« Reply #19 on: August 30, 2008, 02:00:27 PM »
[quote name=\'tvwxman\' post=\'195545\' date=\'Aug 30 2008, 12:37 PM\']
I'm a-gonna catch heat for this one:

$20,000 Pyramid (ABC) - The PERFECT matched theme for the PERFECT show.

$25,000 Pyramid (CBS) - The worst theme for the PERFECT show. I think it's too sappy and slow for such a dramatic show. I'm just not a fan of this theme at all.
[/quote]Eh. I just heard both on TVPMM. They both sound fine. Several times, the $20K theme goes on an acid trip for some unknown reason. Prominent Hammond organ. Acoustic guitar. Bass guitar. Synth. Brass. I think a trombone's farting in there somewhere near the end. Far too much going on. The last forty seconds are just a mish-mash. Typical 70s fare, really. The 80s theme is a lot cleaner and simpler. More mature. They dropped the low-energy drawn-out dips and half of the instruments and left the really good parts. I prefer it.

The most mis-matched theme I can think of is 70s Split Second. The car intro part with the bongos is fine, but after that the tempo slows way down.
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« Reply #20 on: August 30, 2008, 02:33:28 PM »
[quote name=\'CarShark\' post=\'195552\' date=\'Aug 30 2008, 02:00 PM\']
I think a trombone's farting in there somewhere near the end.
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« Reply #21 on: August 30, 2008, 03:29:35 PM »
[quote name=\'tvwxman\' post=\'195545\' date=\'Aug 30 2008, 09:37 AM\']
$25,000 Pyramid (CBS) - The worst theme for the PERFECT show. I think it's too sappy and slow for such a dramatic show. I'm just not a fan of this theme at all.[/quote]
[quote name=\'mmb5\' post=\'195546\' date=\'Aug 30 2008, 09:49 AM\']
100% agreement here.  The 80's version is Muzak, zaps all of the energy away.[/quote]
I think I might cry. I am appalled. :)
[quote name=\'davemackey\' post=\'195553\' date=\'Aug 30 2008, 11:33 AM\']
Women don't sweat, either.[/quote]
Enjoy your brand new Intarnets, sir. :)
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tvwxman

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« Reply #22 on: August 30, 2008, 04:28:30 PM »
[quote name=\'CarShark\' post=\'195552\' date=\'Aug 30 2008, 02:00 PM\']
I just heard both on TVPMM. They both sound fine. Several times, the $20K theme goes on an acid trip for some unknown reason. Prominent Hammond organ. Acoustic guitar. Bass guitar. Synth. Brass. I think a trombone's farting in there somewhere near the end. Far too much going on.
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Oh, absolutely agreed there. But the brilliance of it comes from the parts that were actually used on the show. And most of that acid trip in there, was not.

The opening montage, credits, and winning fanfare 'make' Tuning Up absolutely fantastic.

But, YMMV.
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Robert Hutchinson

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« Reply #23 on: August 30, 2008, 09:42:07 PM »
[quote name=\'tvwxman\' post=\'195545\' date=\'Aug 30 2008, 12:37 PM\']I'm a-gonna catch heat for this one:

$20,000 Pyramid (ABC) - The PERFECT matched theme for the PERFECT show.

$25,000 Pyramid (CBS) - The worst theme for the PERFECT show. I think it's too sappy and slow for such a dramatic show. I'm just not a fan of this theme at all.[/quote]
Going beyond my initial reaction of "sappy and not dramatic? what the hell?", the thing that seems curious to me is that, um, they're played at the same tempo. Actually, I think the latter is a tiny smidgen faster.

(Also, I love the "acid trip" parts of the original theme. That bass intro! That bombastic part about 1:40 in! Glorious.)
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« Reply #24 on: August 30, 2008, 09:43:04 PM »
[quote name=\'tvwxman\' post=\'195564\' date=\'Aug 30 2008, 01:28 PM\']
[quote name=\'CarShark\' post=\'195552\' date=\'Aug 30 2008, 02:00 PM\']
I just heard both on TVPMM. They both sound fine. Several times, the $20K theme goes on an acid trip for some unknown reason. Prominent Hammond organ. Acoustic guitar. Bass guitar. Synth. Brass. I think a trombone's farting in there somewhere near the end. Far too much going on.
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Oh, absolutely agreed there. But the brilliance of it comes from the parts that were actually used on the show. And most of that acid trip in there, was not.

The opening montage, credits, and winning fanfare 'make' Tuning Up absolutely fantastic.

But, YMMV.
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I agree that the ABC theme was better.  My first reaction, on seeing the CBS version, was "What the heck did they do to the theme?!!"  Tuning Up fit the show perfectly.  The 25K theme always sounded insubstantial and sing-songy to me.
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« Reply #25 on: August 30, 2008, 10:26:53 PM »
[quote name=\'tvwxman\' post=\'195545\' date=\'Aug 30 2008, 11:37 AM\']
I'm a-gonna catch heat for this one:

$20,000 Pyramid (ABC) - The PERFECT matched theme for the PERFECT show.

$25,000 Pyramid (CBS) - The worst theme for the PERFECT show. I think it's too sappy and slow for such a dramatic show. I'm just not a fan of this theme at all.
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Agreed as well. The original Tuning Up sounded more exciting and forceful. The remake just sounded too stereotypical game show music used for spoofs and the like.

Also, the copy used on the air for early CBS/ABC sounded like crap, they could have used just a better copy. Until I heard the original Tuning Up on the GSN CD, i always thought it was the actual recording that sounded bad, but turns out it was just the audio on the show. If they used a cleaner version, even edited better, it would have brought more life to the show i think. Almost like the "Big Wheel's" - "Changing Keys" theme change did to WOF. Yeah the show was the same, but the excitement wasn't there during the opening. ;(

Also, to me the show seemed almost too polished when it returned to CBS. There was a different atmosphere from the Ed Sullivan Theatre than from Studio 33 i guess.

Another thing.. How did Cobert get the rights to remake the theme? It was almost a complete copy.

Mark
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« Reply #26 on: August 30, 2008, 10:32:24 PM »
[quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' post=\'195574\' date=\'Aug 30 2008, 09:42 PM\']
Going beyond my initial reaction of "sappy and not dramatic? what the hell?", the thing that seems curious to me is that, um, they're played at the same tempo. Actually, I think the latter is a tiny smidgen faster.
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Polkas are fast.  That doesn't make it good music.

Tuning Up has me thinking something exciting is going to happen.  Cobert has me wondering how much longer I'm going to be on hold.


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« Reply #27 on: August 31, 2008, 04:57:43 AM »
[quote name=\'CarShark\' post=\'195552\' date=\'Aug 30 2008, 11:00 AM\']
I think a trombone's farting in there somewhere near the end.[/quote]
I can't believe I skipped over this the first time without whipping out the gazpacho line. :)
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Robert Hutchinson

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« Reply #28 on: August 31, 2008, 05:52:05 AM »
[quote name=\'mmb5\' post=\'195580\' date=\'Aug 30 2008, 10:32 PM\'][quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' post=\'195574\' date=\'Aug 30 2008, 09:42 PM\']Going beyond my initial reaction of "sappy and not dramatic? what the hell?", the thing that seems curious to me is that, um, they're played at the same tempo. Actually, I think the latter is a tiny smidgen faster.[/quote]
Polkas are fast.  That doesn't make it good music.[/quote]
Well, okay, but that's not what I said. I was merely responding to the oddness of criticizing one piece of music for being too slow and not another, when one is not actually slower than the other.
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« Reply #29 on: August 31, 2008, 06:30:54 AM »
[quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' post=\'195595\' date=\'Aug 31 2008, 05:52 AM\']
Well, okay, but that's not what I said. I was merely responding to the oddness of criticizing one piece of music for being too slow and not another, when one is not actually slower than the other.
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Just to make this clear, without editing the original statement above,

I hereby withdraw the word 'slower'. Rob is correct that it isn't really a slower song than "Tuning Up", and it was a poor choice of words.

That said, it still sucks. To Me.
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