Author Topic: Duel Ratings (Read 15628 times)

Ian Wallis · « **Reply #15 on:** December 23, 2007, 04:21:09 PM »

I also thought Singing Bee was the better show. After its strong start in the summer I thought it would last longer than Lyrics --- but I guess you never tell what's going to be a hit and what isn't!

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ON a similar note when was the last time 3 games shows aired at the same time in prime time? (even if one is rerun)

Kind of reminds you of the good old days of daytime, doesn't it?

Chuck Sutton · « **Reply #16 on:** December 23, 2007, 05:03:51 PM »

[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' post=\'172912\' date=\'Dec 23 2007, 05:21 PM\']

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ON a similar note when was the last time 3 games shows aired at the same time in prime time? (even if one is rerun)

Kind of reminds you of the good old days of daytime, doesn't it?
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Yes it does, but even then it was usually only one ot two slots that ahd more than 2.

Chuck Sutton · « **Reply #17 on:** December 24, 2007, 04:01:39 PM »

Duel hit a new low for the conclusion

8:00 p.m.

ABC
Duel
Vuewers: 5.57 million (#3), A18-49: 1.4/ 4 (#4)

CBS
60 Minutes/The Amazing Race 12
Viewers: 12.12 million (#1), A18-49: 3.4/10 (#2)

NBC
Sunday Night Football (Redskins vs. Vikings)
Viewers: 9.88 million (#2), A18-49: 3.6/11 (#1)

Fox
Movie: Spiderman 2
Viewers: 4.24 million (#4), A18-49: 1.6/ 5 (#3)

CW
Story of Santa Claus
Viewers: 1.07 million (#5), A18-49: 0.4/ 1 (#5)

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8:30 p.m.

ABC
Duel
Viewers: 6.72 million (#3), A18-49: 1.7/ 5 (#3)

CBS
The Amazing Race 12
Viewers: 8.98 million (#2), A18-49: 2.8/ 8 (#2)

NBC
Sunday Night Football
Viewers: 12.26 million (#1), A18-49: 4.3/12 (#1)

Fox
Movie: Spiderman 2
Viewers: 4.47 million (#4), A18-49: 1.6/ 5 (#4)

CW
Story of Santa Claus
Viewers: 1.20 million (#5), A18-49: 0.4/ 1 (#5)

BrandonFG · « **Reply #18 on:** December 24, 2007, 04:20:24 PM »

Not surprising though...holiday week, and both Amazing Race and football pull very good ratings.

Mr. Armadillo · « **Reply #19 on:** December 24, 2007, 07:37:04 PM »

[quote name=\'Chuck Sutton\' post=\'172885\' date=\'Dec 23 2007, 08:29 AM\']
On a side note The Singing Bee losing to Duel and a rerun of Lyrics is probably the final nail in its coffin,

Who really thought Lyrics would be the more successful of the two?
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I did, the minute I realized Bee was the vastly superior show. I mean, it's so good, they don't need to throw scads of money everywhere to get people hooked!

BillCullen1 · « **Reply #20 on:** December 25, 2007, 08:58:45 PM »

I liked Duel and would like to see it return. Regarding Singing Bee
and DFTL, I think Singing Bee is the better show, but I think Wayne
Brady is the better host. But Bee is struggling in the ratings.

peiboy91 · « **Reply #21 on:** December 25, 2007, 11:40:14 PM »

I hope it returns too, and if it does it would be the perfect format to make a tabletop game out of.

uncamark · « **Reply #22 on:** December 26, 2007, 05:20:13 PM »

It really doesn't look good for "Duel" returning, which is a shame, because the Sunday night finale in particular was pretty good.

I think ABC's decision to give "Samantha Who?" some more breathing room (as it's down to two or three unaired episodes and the WGA strike is not going to be over soon) and drag the first episode out to 90 minutes may've hurt the show in the long run.

How did "Clash" do? Would there be any reason for NBC to bring it back at Easter?

Matt Ottinger · « **Reply #23 on:** December 26, 2007, 06:40:14 PM »

[quote name=\'uncamark\' post=\'173175\' date=\'Dec 26 2007, 05:20 PM\']I think ABC's decision to give "Samantha Who?" some more breathing room (as it's down to two or three unaired episodes and the WGA strike is not going to be over soon) and drag the first episode out to 90 minutes may've hurt the show in the long run.[/quote]
Absolutely. I don't think many of us took a moment to take in exactly what David told us in the Summaries thread. The producers had finished production and finished preparing hour-long episodes, THEN the word came down from ABC that the first two needed to be 90 minutes. So the first two episodes basically had thirty extra minutes of filler that the producers themselves had already decided we didn't need to see.

But yeah, when the finale you've been building toward ends up your lowest-rated night, the audience is not joining you on your little ride. This is probably the last we've seen of Duel.

DrJWJustice · « **Reply #24 on:** December 28, 2007, 09:32:03 AM »

[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'173185\' date=\'Dec 26 2007, 07:40 PM\']
But yeah, when the finale you've been building toward ends up your lowest-rated night, the audience is not joining you on your little ride. This is probably the last we've seen of Duel.
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There's something to be said when I skip the Friday airing altogether and just watch the finale, but I don't feel that I missed anything. That something is, "Ditto what Matt said." I wasn't overly impressed with the way this game played, I wasn't overly impressed with the hosting job. As I wrote in my review, the set and SFX were about the only impressive things out there. If set and SFX made a game show, "Winning Lines" might still be airing, among others.

I hope ABC just quietly lets this one go away, and better luck to them on their next outing.

Neumms · « **Reply #25 on:** December 28, 2007, 01:48:43 PM »

[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'173185\' date=\'Dec 26 2007, 06:40 PM\']
I don't think many of us took a moment to take in exactly what David told us in the Summaries thread. The producers had finished production and finished preparing hour-long episodes, THEN the word came down from ABC that the first two needed to be 90 minutes. So the first two episodes basically had thirty extra minutes of filler that the producers themselves had already decided we didn't need to see.
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I hadn't read the summaries yet because I've only seen the first episode yet, but boy, does this explain everything. To go in and "unedit" a show is madness and here, wrecked what could have been a fine game. Replace the $5000 chips with $500 chips and get it to GSN. Oh, and get a real host.

Matt Ottinger · « **Reply #26 on:** December 28, 2007, 04:47:38 PM »

[quote name=\'Neumms\' post=\'173315\' date=\'Dec 28 2007, 01:48 PM\']Replace the $5000 chips with $500 chips and get it to GSN. Oh, and get a real host.[/quote]
Even $500 chips would probably be more than a GSN budget would allow. The ABC show gave away two million dollars over the course of essentially six one-hour shows Figure a GSN version might be five half-hour shows for each tournament, and you'd still be looking at a little less than $100,000 a week, way more than GSN typically gives away.

clemon79 · « **Reply #27 on:** December 28, 2007, 04:53:45 PM »

[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'173330\' date=\'Dec 28 2007, 01:47 PM\']
Even $500 chips would probably be more than a GSN budget would allow. The ABC show gave away two million dollars over the course of essentially six one-hour shows Figure a GSN version might be five half-hour shows for each tournament, and you'd still be looking at a little less than $100,000 a week, way more than GSN typically gives away.
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Does it work if you yank out the "tournament" nonsense? Players start with $5K in chips, you win whatever you keep, you keep playing as long as you win, $500 house minimum if it goes to a shootout?

Sodboy13 · « **Reply #28 on:** December 28, 2007, 05:10:12 PM »

[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'173331\' date=\'Dec 28 2007, 03:53 PM\']
Does it work if you yank out the "tournament" nonsense? Players start with $5K in chips, you win whatever you keep, you keep playing as long as you win, $500 house minimum if it goes to a shootout?
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Seeing as how GSN keeps their games in the $6K range, I think that could work. Figure 3 duels a show, 5 chips for an average win - that's $7,500 a show. A little pricey for GSN's current crop, but I'm guessing the contestant coordinators could make sure the chips are spent freely during gameplay, given their general casting tendencies.

tvwxman · « **Reply #29 on:** December 28, 2007, 05:12:42 PM »

[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'173331\' date=\'Dec 28 2007, 04:53 PM\']
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'173330\' date=\'Dec 28 2007, 01:47 PM\']
Even $500 chips would probably be more than a GSN budget would allow. The ABC show gave away two million dollars over the course of essentially six one-hour shows Figure a GSN version might be five half-hour shows for each tournament, and you'd still be looking at a little less than $100,000 a week, way more than GSN typically gives away.
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Does it work if you yank out the "tournament" nonsense? Players start with $5K in chips, you win whatever you keep, you keep playing as long as you win, $500 house minimum if it goes to a shootout?
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Do it sorta like the Brits (according to BothersBar)...

Dump the Tourney, but keep the growing pot. Win a game...take your winnings home or risk em for another Duel. Win 5 dues, take the pot home. Lose a game, lose your money, which gets dumped into the pot.