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The Big Board / Re: Hosts in the intro?
« Last post by calliaume on March 23, 2024, 11:41:43 AM »
I suppose 1969-1978 To Tell the Truth doesn't count, as the host is introduced at the very top of the show, but he's often seen before the introduction.
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The Big Board / Re: Proposed format for Concentration
« Last post by Kevin Prather on March 23, 2024, 02:37:05 AM »
What does a 50-square board look like anyway? 10-by-5?
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The Big Board / Re: People: Mike Richards speaks about J! experience, firing
« Last post by Nick on March 22, 2024, 11:58:39 PM »
I don't think Mark L Walberg was anywhere near the right person for the role. He's a decent presenter and host, but what he does lack, I feel, is gravitas. That's why a lot of the folks who did guest host J! were news people and not other game show hosts. You can teach folks to host a game show, even J!. But you can't teach gravitas, presence which is what makes someone better suited to the role than someone else.

I think going for news people was steering the wrong direction (not that there were a lot of people with game show hosting experience who weren't washed-up comedians from which to consider).  To me, it likens the job of Jeopardy! host to reading a lot of cue cards very quickly.  Sure, it involves reading a lot of copy, but there's that "traffic cop" element of game show hosting of keeping the proceedings moving, knowing how to bring out the best in the contestants in the process, which is not something I see a lot of news people doing.

I'm a fan of Tom Bergeron, but I agree with him that he wouldn't have been a good fit for the Jeopardy! hosting role. He's at his best when he's given the space to digress and ad-lib, and there's little room for game-stopping levity on Jeopardy!

I can agree that it definitely wouldn't have been his strongest fit for a show.  Just of the names bandied about his seemed to be the best that I heard since, again, he knows how to host game shows and hasn't been terrible at doing so.

Mike would have been off the air by now because of blandness.

I think this is the main point that's not being discussed when it comes to Mike hosting anything.  I've never understood the praise he's received for his work on The Pyramid or anything else.  He's not the least bit interesting or engaging.  He can read a teleprompter without a flub.  He can follow the game show host formula of knowing the right things to say to move the proceedings, do a contestant interview, build off something a contestant says to get a laugh and go on; but he has no charisma.
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The Big Board / Re: Proposed format for Concentration
« Last post by Jeremy Nelson on March 22, 2024, 11:35:27 PM »
What happens if neither team gets their puzzle right in the speed round?

A gameboard of 50 squares (Double of 25) is shown.
Considering that we often had contestants who had trouble making seven matches on a gameboard a third of this size in that time limit, that sounds like a nightmare to watch and to play.

I like that you're giving some thought to this, but you're overcomplicating what's meant to be a simple game. If you can't explain the game in a sentence or to a six year old, then it's too complicated.
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The Big Board / Re: Proposed format for Concentration
« Last post by whewfan on March 22, 2024, 10:03:29 PM »
You have some clever ideas (I kinda like the mini game that adds prizes to the main board) but I had to re-read this a few times to get an understanding. It’s too many extra changes for the sake of change that don’t add anything to the game. Nothing about Concentration is really broken enough to need that much fixing and by the time the rules are explained, it’ll be time to roll credits.

To your point about having individual puzzles to prevent an unfair advantage, I could solve a Wheel puzzle that’s 90% filled in without even calling a letter. And I wouldn’t say a player has an unfair advantage on Concentration. You still have to put 2+2 together with the rebus.

What I was thinking, regarding the mini board was, the 25 piece gameboard still has prizes hidden on it, but to reveal those pieces, you have to match that same prize on the mini board. The mini board, for me, recalls the bonus game of Classic Concentration, repurposed, and also, makes it easier to reveal more than 2 pieces at a time. With the potential of having a puzzle solved fast, it means more puzzles per game. I thought that using the 25 square board and allowing 30 seconds of gameplay would likely allow for more than 2 pieces at a time, but then I thought saving that for a bonus game would be better.

Regarding celebs on Concentration as part of the pair... I don't know... I think the game would work just fine with civilian pairs. The pairs of course could be married couples, siblings, co-workers, etc.
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The Big Board / Re: Proposed format for Concentration
« Last post by Jimmy Owen on March 22, 2024, 09:37:05 PM »
Celebrity paired with contestant. Celebrity picks first, contestant tries to match. Both confer on solving the rebus. Wild card stays. Two teams play same puzzle. 25 squares on big screen monitors on set.
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The Big Board / Re: Proposed format for Concentration
« Last post by BrandonFG on March 22, 2024, 08:59:32 PM »
You have some clever ideas (I kinda like the mini game that adds prizes to the main board) but I had to re-read this a few times to get an understanding. It’s too many extra changes for the sake of change that don’t add anything to the game. Nothing about Concentration is really broken enough to need that much fixing and by the time the rules are explained, it’ll be time to roll credits.

To your point about having individual puzzles to prevent an unfair advantage, I could solve a Wheel puzzle that’s 90% filled in without even calling a letter. And I wouldn’t say a player has an unfair advantage on Concentration. You still have to put 2+2 together with the rebus.
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The Big Board / Proposed format for Concentration
« Last post by whewfan on March 22, 2024, 08:48:37 PM »
I was trying to think of a way to revive Concentration and make it faster paced, and hopefully, more exciting...

The gameboard has 25 squares like Trebek's version. However, each pair has their OWN 25 square puzzle to solve... which will make sense in a moment...

Two pairs play. One pair starts the first part of the game... A 15 square board is shown, with 7 matching pairs of prizes. The pair has 30 seconds to make as many matches as they can. One calls the first number, and the other calls the next, alternating in the same manner for the full 30 seconds. The prizes they match also correspond to the 25 square gameboard, and those squares where the prizes are hidden are revealed. (So, a maximum 14 of the 25 squares can be revealed.) Any prize they match goes on their side of the board. They try to solve the puzzle, and if they can't, then the other pair plays the next 15 square board in the same manner, then tries to solve THEIR 25 square puzzle. If the pair should solve their puzzle on the first try, then the other pair MUST solve their puzzle on the first try, or the first team gets to play the bonus game.
(Alternatively... this could also be a 2 out of 3 match.)

Another twist: During the course of the 15 square matching round, there's one prize with no match. A button is in front of the pair. If they think they revealed the prize that is a NO MATCH, they hit the button, which grants them an extra 5 seconds in the bonus game. (No extra puzzle piece reveal)

Note: I thought each pair should have their own puzzle, as it would be unfair for the second pair to play off the same puzzle with theoretically most of the board revealed.

Note: With this format, more than 2 puzzles are played per game.

Note: Neither puzzle will be given "freebie" pieces to start, and of course, no wild cards, so this means three pieces will not be revealed.

The bonus game- A gameboard of 50 squares (Double of 25) is shown. This time, dollar figures are hidden and must be matched. The pair has 60 seconds (Plus any bonus time won in the main game), again alternating number calls, to make as many matches as they can. No mini boards... they're playing the 50 square board. If they can solve the bonus puzzle, they win all the cash accumulated.

Thoughts?
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The Big Board / Re: Hosts in the intro?
« Last post by That Don Guy on March 22, 2024, 06:38:32 PM »
There is at least one episode of G.E. College Bowl from around 1960 (the one that I know of was two weeks before Princess Margaret's wedding) that begins with the host reading the first question before the normal introduction.
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The Big Board / Re: Hosts in the intro?
« Last post by Loogaroo on March 22, 2024, 04:46:50 PM »
On various episodes of Fun House, JD Roth would either tease one of the stunts that was on the docket that day or announce the theme for that given episode.
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