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The Big Board / Re: Contestant on French game show defeated after 646 wins
« Last post by MikeK on July 11, 2025, 02:48:40 PM »
646 wins over 21 months?!

That’s six times more than Thom McKee, Kit Salisbury, and Ken Jennings combined! (though for the former two, they won a total of 13 cars)

No. It isn’t.
74 + 43 + 38 = 155.  155 x 6 = 930.

He's not wrong, but it is an incredibly stupid flex from someone known for incredibly stupid flexes.
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The Big Board / Re: Contestant on French game show defeated after 646 wins
« Last post by PYLdude on July 11, 2025, 01:41:23 PM »
646 wins over 21 months?!

That’s six times more than Thom McKee, Kit Salisbury, and Ken Jennings combined! (though for the former two, they won a total of 13 cars)

No. It isn’t.
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The Big Board / Re: Contestant on French game show defeated after 646 wins
« Last post by johnnya2k3 on July 11, 2025, 01:32:50 PM »
646 wins over 21 months?!

That’s six times more than Thom McKee, Kit Salisbury, and Ken Jennings combined! (though for the former two, they won a total of 13 cars)
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The Big Board / Re: Contestant on French game show defeated after 646 wins
« Last post by SuperMatch93 on July 11, 2025, 10:24:13 AM »
That's disappointing to hear. Admittedly, my first instinct when I read the article was to wonder if the producers were pitting him against contestants they knew were sub-par in order to manufacture a long run.
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The Big Board / Re: Contestant on French game show defeated after 646 wins
« Last post by Setsunael on July 11, 2025, 04:51:50 AM »
Some insights/explainations about the format.

Tl;dr : he is skilled, had a incredible run but the deck has been quite mucky stacked in his favor.

It's based on the Argentinian format El Legado - that spawned the very successful format L'Eredita in Italy or Crésis in France years before.

In this version, four contestants, including the reigning champ are playing each day, feeded with a virtual €10000 personal jackpot. Three rounds of straight quizzing, first one being two-choice questions with the second choice hidden until you select it, second round being "avoid the wrong choice from this list of answers provided" then the two remaining contestants battle it out in a Grand Slam-esque chess clock battle, winner coming back next day, trying to cash in their jackpot in the final round (+having a shot at a progressive prize package in a bonus round)

Losers of first and second round do not get eliminated straight away - they get to challenge one of the other contestants to a duel in a final, four-choice question, answered by the challenged player. Whoever wins stay in the game and adds the other player's jackpot to theirs.

With all those details on mind, you could argue that Emilien's achievement is quite impressive - and indeed he's shown very impressive general knowledge skills during his run, especially as he's only 22 years-old.

But.. it's not that easy. I won't surprise many of you by pointing first that he was we was casted as the profile for their next big long run champ - tv business, better for ratings to have a long running champ, with low or none challenging profiles against him each day (and better for business as TF1 as a premium-call viewer competition with a growing jackpot paid out when the champ gets knocked out - one lucky viewer got a huge 1.75M€ payout along with Emilien leaving the show)

Then there's some equity issues.While questions are still sourced and checked - there's no guarantee of a fair and square competition. Leading to many people noticing straightforward recycled questions in the duel part or even worse - recycled exact set of answers, same order, same illustration pictures but with an question switching from "easy" to "way harder" and therefore some suspicions that there's two questions ready to be switched depending on what the production wants to happen (one example here https://x.com/brillant_j52653/status/1850551731903467969). Similar in the chess clock part where people trying to compile data about the challenger being asked longer questions (making them lose more time on their clock) and/or champ being sometime asked ridiculously easy questions such as "What do you turn in order to read a book?". Obviously less easy to prove.




 
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The Big Board / Re: Contestant on French game show defeated after 646 wins
« Last post by PYLclark86 on July 11, 2025, 02:22:44 AM »
I appreciate CNN's elaborate description of the show:

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In the show, four contestants compete in a general knowledge quiz. The winner then answers a series of questions to determine their prize pot for that day, before returning to take on a new slate of opponents the day after.
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The Big Board / Contestant on French game show defeated after 646 wins
« Last post by SuperMatch93 on July 11, 2025, 01:57:54 AM »
In addition to setting a new world record for the most consecutive wins on a game show, Émilien of "12 Coups de Midi" is also the biggest winner in French game show history with over €2,500,000, including twenty-three cars.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/07/entertainment/french-gameshow-winning-streak-ends-intl-scli
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The Big Board / Re: Prizes appreciating in value
« Last post by clemon79 on July 10, 2025, 07:07:04 PM »
Is there a "correct" answer as to which payout option to take, or is it dependent on each person's financial attitude?

Well, ask the New York Mets that question. They thought they could invest Bobby Bonilla's contract buyout with that nice Bernie Madoff fellow. Didn't work out so well for them. :)
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The Big Board / Re: Prizes appreciating in value
« Last post by Joe Mello on July 10, 2025, 05:52:07 PM »
Is there a "correct" answer as to which payout option to take
It is almost always contextual, but my inclination would be to prioritize no longer needing to work and paying off debts. If I neither option does the former, I'd see if one or more options could do the latter. If that's not viable, then it's economic theory time.
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The Big Board / Re: Prizes appreciating in value
« Last post by That Don Guy on July 10, 2025, 05:48:07 PM »
Cullen TPIR gave away a casting of The Thinker, supposedly signed by Rodin himself; assuming the contestant kept it (the taxes on a $20,000 item back then would have been rather high), it must be worth far more than that now.

Speaking of taxes, somebody mentioned the Rolls-Royce given away on The New Treasure Hunt; I am pretty sure the contestant had to sell it to pay the taxes on it.

Somebody mentioned zonks on Hall LMAD; what was the largest zonk that anyone actually kept? (I am assuming that one of the reasons zonks on the Brady version are clearly marked is to prevent the contestant from actually trying to keep it.) I want to say that it was a bull. They once gave away an actual oil derrick (the kind that rotates on one end while the other end goes up and down), but talked the contestant into accepting another prize instead. There were also at least two times where a zonk winner traded it back for a spot in the Big Deal.

The OP also mentioned a prize in gold - besides the one-ounce gold bars occasionally up for bid on TPIR, I can think of a couple of other shows that gave away gold: Dealer's Choice gave away gold bars (and also silver bars - now there's something that appreciated in value, percentagewise), and on ABC's one season of The Krypton Factor, the advertised prize was $50,000 in gold, but on the final episode, the winner got the choice between the gold and cash, and took the money instead.

Another prize to consider: airplanes - not microlights, but ones where you need a license. Assuming a Piper or Cessna from the 1970s or early 1980s is still in something resembling flying condition, it is worth far more than its purchase price now, as the price of new planes skyrocketed at some point because of the cost of the manufacturers' liability insurance.
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