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Title: High School Quiz Shows
Post by: Steve McClellan on December 18, 2005, 05:55:57 AM
Since some Googling didn't turn up a list of what all high school quizzes are currently on the air, I'm working on assembling such a list. If anyone knows of any that I'm missing, please let me know.

So far, I've got shows in the following places:

Lansing, MI
Pittsburgh, PA
Portland, OR
State College, PA
Springfield, MA
Raleigh, NC
Atlanta, GA
Pueblo/Grand Junction, CO
Toronto, ON
Watertown, NY
Harrisburg, PA
Washington, DC
Virginia (lottery-sponsored statewide show)
Cleveland, OH

Three (http://\"http://wkar.org/quizbusters\") of (http://\"http://kdka.com/highq\") which (http://\"http://wpsu.org/scholasticscrimmage\") have episodes available for online viewing.

Any further help would be appreciated; I'll let the group know when I finish the page.
Title: High School Quiz Shows
Post by: DYosua on December 18, 2005, 07:03:27 AM
New Hampshire has a program on Public Television called "Granite State Challenge".  Their web site is here (http://\"http://www.nhptv.org/product/gsc/gsc.htm\") - you can also stream the shows from there.
Title: High School Quiz Shows
Post by: MitchJoseph2004 on December 18, 2005, 09:50:18 AM
Columbus, Ohio's PBS Station has "In The Know". Show's Website (http://\"http://www.wosu.org/tv/in-the-know/default.html\")
Title: High School Quiz Shows
Post by: NickintheATL on December 18, 2005, 10:06:10 AM
There is also WETP (formerly WSJK) in Knoxville, TN who does "Scholars' Bowl", they don't have a section for it on their page, but it's been running strong for over 20 years.
Title: High School Quiz Shows
Post by: ChrisLambert! on December 18, 2005, 10:24:46 AM
WTHR-13 in Indy has had "The Brain Game" as long as I can remember.
Title: High School Quiz Shows
Post by: mmb5 on December 18, 2005, 10:33:24 AM
Flint, MI (this is also available to much of the Detroit DMA)
Mt. Pleasant, MI (although in the Flint DMA, it mostly serves the Traverse City DMA) -- I hear the questions on this one are expertly done.

Toledo, OH had one, but it disappeared several years ago
Title: High School Quiz Shows
Post by: Steve McClellan on December 18, 2005, 10:58:10 AM
[quote name=\'mmb5\' date=\'Dec 18 2005, 07:33 AM\']Flint, MI (this is also available to much of the Detroit DMA)
Mt. Pleasant, MI (although in the Flint DMA, it mostly serves the Traverse City DMA) -- I hear the questions on this one are expertly done.[/quote]
Alas, my search for these came up empty. Got a title, station, or some such thing?

And thanks all, for the input so far. :)
Title: High School Quiz Shows
Post by: mystery7 on December 18, 2005, 11:53:48 AM
Here's another: WLVT (http://\"http://www.wlvt.org\") in Bethlehem, PA has done a show called Scholastic Scrimmage since 1973. Very similar in format (and logo) to WPSU's version.
Title: High School Quiz Shows
Post by: Brandon Brooks on December 18, 2005, 12:03:28 PM
WREG in Memphis, TN has the "Knowledge Bowl".  I know because I was on it.

Brandon Brooks
Title: High School Quiz Shows
Post by: Matt Ottinger on December 18, 2005, 12:09:39 PM
[quote name=\'Steve McClellan\' date=\'Dec 18 2005, 11:58 AM\'][quote name=\'mmb5\' date=\'Dec 18 2005, 07:33 AM\']Flint, MI (this is also available to much of the Detroit DMA)
Mt. Pleasant, MI (although in the Flint DMA, it mostly serves the Traverse City DMA) -- I hear the questions on this one are expertly done.[/quote]
Alas, my search for these came up empty. Got a title, station, or some such thing?

And thanks all, for the input so far. :)[/quote]
The Flint station is WFUM (http://\"http://www.wfum.org/\"), and their show (High School Challenge) has been around since 1984.  Not much of a web presence:
http://www.wfum.org/tvschedule/local.html (http://\"http://www.wfum.org/tvschedule/local.html\")

Mount Pleasant's show Quiz Central on WCMU just got started this season:
http://www.wcmu.org/tv/wcmuproductions/QuizCentral.html (http://\"http://www.wcmu.org/tv/wcmuproductions/QuizCentral.html\")

I have some links to other shows bookmarked at work.  If there's anything I have that hasn't been mentioned yet, I'll pass it along Monday.  This is a good idea, Steve, I'm glad you're putting it together.
Title: High School Quiz Shows
Post by: Matt Ottinger on December 18, 2005, 12:15:47 PM
[quote name=\'NicholasM79\' date=\'Dec 18 2005, 11:06 AM\']There is also WETP (formerly WSJK) in Knoxville, TN who does "Scholars' Bowl", they don't have a section for it on their page, but it's been running strong for over 20 years.[/quote]
I'm a Knoxville native, but I'm not afraid to say that is the worst TV station website that I've ever seen.  See for yourself. (http://\"http://www.etptv.org/index.html\")
Title: High School Quiz Shows
Post by: rugrats1 on December 18, 2005, 12:28:28 PM
WPBS in Watertown NY also has "Whiz Quiz", which has been running for the last several years, at least. I saw an episode in 2001 when I was on vacation in Ottawa (where Rogers has WPBS on their system), and, in my opinion, it was a square show that tried too hard to be hip. The questions were intelligible, but the presentation was too dry and, for such a show, the hip, static bumpers identifying the segments clashed.
Title: High School Quiz Shows
Post by: NickintheATL on December 18, 2005, 12:40:19 PM
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Dec 18 2005, 01:15 PM\']I'm a Knoxville native, but I'm not afraid to say that is the worst TV station website that I've ever seen.  See for yourself. (http://\"http://www.etptv.org/index.html\")
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Now you know why I didn't even bother linking to it. :-)

And if you've had a chance to see the show lately since Diana Morgan took over as the host, it's almost as bad as that website.
Title: High School Quiz Shows
Post by: gsfan85 on December 18, 2005, 12:42:48 PM
Here in Long Island, we have a high school quiz show called "The Long Island Challenge."  It's been airing since 1998 and is hosted by one of our local news anchors.

Actually not your average high school quiz format.  Has a face/off Family Feud style round, lightning round, pretty interesting.

Adam
Title: High School Quiz Shows
Post by: aaron sica on December 18, 2005, 12:46:36 PM
The Harrisburg area actually has TWO high school quiz shows:

WGAL-8's is called "Brain Busters", and WLYH-15 ("UPN 15")'s is called "Inquizitive", with the big draw of that show being that Brad Rutter (who is from Lancaster) is the host.
Title: High School Quiz Shows
Post by: mmb5 on December 18, 2005, 12:48:32 PM
[quote name=\'mystery7\' date=\'Dec 18 2005, 11:53 AM\']Here's another: WLVT (http://\"http://www.wlvt.org\") in Bethlehem, PA has done a show called Scholastic Scrimmage since 1973. Very similar in format (and logo) to WPSU's version.
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I also have heard rumors that the questions on this show are oustanding as well.


--Mike
Title: High School Quiz Shows
Post by: vtown7 on December 18, 2005, 12:55:46 PM
Steve: Just to clarify the Toronto entry...

Reach for the Top, save for a lull in 1986-88, has been running since 1961.  It was originally shown by the CBC; by the 90's it was running on various independents, and now it runs on TVOntario (provincial finals, 10 teams/14 games), Access Alberta (provincial finals, also the hosts of the national championships) and Knowledge Network British Columbia (provincial finals).

The national championships currently involves BC, Alberta, Manitoba, Ontario (two teams), Quebec, New Brunswick and Nova Scotia.

Hope this helps!

Ryan, your neighbourhood Reach for the Top coach (and former player)
Title: High School Quiz Shows
Post by: gsfan85 on December 18, 2005, 01:18:28 PM
There's also "The High Five Challenge" which I believe still airs on Dish Network's Angel One Network Saturday mornings.  It tapes in Oregon and has been around since around 1992.

Adam
Title: High School Quiz Shows
Post by: Steve Gavazzi on December 18, 2005, 01:53:39 PM
I know there's one on WYTV-33 in Youngstown, Ohio.  Lemme see if I can find a title...

Ah, here we go.  It's called Academic Challenge.  Beyond this (http://\"http://www.wytv.com/contests/1752441.html\") and this (http://\"http://www.wytv.com/contests/1629311.html\"), the latter of which looks horribly outdated, I can't really find much about it on their website.
Title: High School Quiz Shows
Post by: catkins522 on December 18, 2005, 01:57:22 PM
WBBH, aka NBC-2, has it's own high school challenge.  It's called "The A Team Challenge" (http://\"http://www.nbc-2.com/Features/ATeam/\").

Charles
Title: High School Quiz Shows
Post by: clemon79 on December 18, 2005, 02:27:26 PM
[quote name=\'gsfan85\' date=\'Dec 18 2005, 10:18 AM\']There's also "The High Five Challenge" which I believe still airs on Dish Network's Angel One Network Saturday mornings.  It tapes in Oregon and has been around since around 1992.
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I think the original post covered this when it mentioned Portland.
Title: High School Quiz Shows
Post by: weaklink75 on December 18, 2005, 02:56:50 PM
Baltimore, MD (WJZ) also has an "It's Academic" like Washington DC (and until a few years ago, it was also hosted by Mac McGarry, who hosts the DC version-overall he's done over 60 seasons of the show between the two cities)

Richmond, VA (WTVR) has "Battle of the Brains"
Title: High School Quiz Shows
Post by: PYLdude on December 18, 2005, 03:00:26 PM
I may have mentioned it before, but one of the local colleges in North Jersey (William Paterson Univ.) has been doing a show called In The Know for quite some time.

There's also a show called the New Jersey Challenge on News12 New Jersey. Has anybody seen this one, and if so can you tell me how it's conducted?
Title: High School Quiz Shows
Post by: BrandonFG on December 18, 2005, 03:14:31 PM
[quote name=\'weaklink75\' date=\'Dec 18 2005, 02:56 PM\']Richmond, VA (WTVR) has "Battle of the Brains"
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Mentioned by Steve in the first post.

But technically, "Battle of the Brains" is done separately in Norfolk and Richmond, both, as Steve also said, are sponsored by Virginia Lottery.
Title: High School Quiz Shows
Post by: DrBear on December 18, 2005, 03:43:25 PM
Another addition, "High School Bowl" from WNMU-TV Channel 13, Marquette, Mich. (http://\"http://www.nmu.edu/ptv13/\")

Here's the page about the show. (http://\"http://www.nmu.edu/ptv13/high_school_bowl.htm\")

And if you're listing old ones, WFRV Channel 5 in Green Bay had one during the 1960s, "Five High."
Title: High School Quiz Shows
Post by: Matt Ottinger on December 18, 2005, 07:12:28 PM
[quote name=\'NicholasM79\' date=\'Dec 18 2005, 01:40 PM\'][quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Dec 18 2005, 01:15 PM\']I'm a Knoxville native, but I'm not afraid to say that is the worst TV station website that I've ever seen.  See for yourself. (http://\"http://www.etptv.org/index.html\")
[/quote]And if you've had a chance to see the show lately since Diana Morgan took over as the host, it's almost as bad as that website.[/quote]
I wasn't going to mention that part of it because it would be unseemly of me, not to mention ungentlemanly.

But, uh, yeah.

In fact, taking the opportunity to toot our collective WKAR horn, the more local shows I see and the more websites I see, the more I start to realize that we've got a pretty sweet operation going on here, and I'm not sure what accounts for it.  We're a small market, we certainly don't throw tons of money at the show, but the level of our production quality just seems to be ahead of just about every one of these other local quizzers.  Not that I'm bragging or anything.

And yes, before mmb5 has a coronary, I'm sure the questions are a large part of it. (http://\"http://www.naqt.com\")
Title: High School Quiz Shows
Post by: mmb5 on December 18, 2005, 07:30:59 PM
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Dec 18 2005, 07:12 PM\']And yes, before mmb5 has a coronary, I'm sure the questions are a large part of it. (http://\"http://www.naqt.com\")
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Nope, your show is so outstanding you could ask players for a number between 1 and 8 for 30 minutes and it would still be the best of the bunch.  The other shows would be dead without our questions.


--Mike
Title: High School Quiz Shows
Post by: Brandon Brooks on December 18, 2005, 07:31:53 PM
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Dec 18 2005, 07:12 PM\']In fact, taking the opportunity to toot our collective WKAR horn, the more local shows I see and the more websites I see, the more I start to realize that we've got a pretty sweet operation going on here, and I'm not sure what accounts for it.  We're a small market, we certainly don't throw tons of money at the show, but the level of our production quality just seems to be ahead of just about every one of these other local quizzers.  Not that I'm bragging or anything.
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Believe me, I'm not trying to suck up to the moderator, but yeah, the production quality to your show is actually pretty nice.  Like I said earlier, I was on one (with Kyle Rote Jr.... I won't how many people know who that is), and I thought the "Knowledge Bowl" was a pretty well made show.  Quizbusters simply looks good and dare I say, better.  I've always been curious how it would feel to be a game show host... any comments?

BTW, WCIU in Chicago has this show on Saturday mornings named "Know Your Heritage" that features local high schools, but has more of an ethnic slant to the questions.  The content is there, the production values are crap, and it's jarring to me.

Brandon Brooks
Title: High School Quiz Shows
Post by: rugrats1 on December 18, 2005, 09:08:21 PM
[quote name=\'Brandon Brooks\' date=\'Dec 18 2005, 07:31 PM\']WCIU in Chicago has this show on Saturday mornings named "Know Your Heritage" that features local high schools, but has more of an ethnic slant to the questions.  The content is there, the production values are crap, and it's jarring to me.
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I recall  WGN carrying this show, with an African-American slant, back in the 1980s and 1990s.
Title: High School Quiz Shows
Post by: ChuckNet on December 18, 2005, 10:18:45 PM
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There's also a show called the New Jersey Challenge on News12 New Jersey. Has anybody seen this one, and if so can you tell me how it's conducted?

I'm willing to bet it's the same basic show as The LI Challenge, which Adam described earlier in this thread...they prolly have a franchise going on the different regional News 12 channels in NY/NJ/CT.

Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
Title: High School Quiz Shows
Post by: ChuckNet on December 18, 2005, 10:25:36 PM
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I recall WGN carrying this show, with an African-American slant, back in the 1980s and 1990s.

Seems like KYH really did a tour of duty w/all the major Chicago commercial stations...it was on WLS by 2000, then moved over to WBBM before coming to WCIU. And it seemed to change hosts just as often...at one point, actor Greg-Alan Williams (Sgt. Ellerbee on Baywatch) was behind the podium.

Oh, it definitely has that slant...in fact, they've been using DJs from the Windy City's local hip-hop/R&B station (whose name escapes me) as announcers for the past 3 seasons or so.

Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
Title: High School Quiz Shows
Post by: CarbonCpy on December 18, 2005, 11:08:31 PM
[quote name=\'NicholasM79\' date=\'Dec 18 2005, 12:40 PM\']And if you've had a chance to see the show lately since Diana Morgan took over as the host, it's almost as bad as that website.
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Wait, "lately?"  Was she ever good as host?  

EDIT:  Heck, she was still stumbling over questions by the time my high school's team went on the show back in '98, and that was... what? a good three, four years since she took over for what's-his-face?

EDIT PLUS:  I figured if Matt wouldn't say it, I might as well.
Title: High School Quiz Shows
Post by: Kevin Prather on December 18, 2005, 11:22:47 PM
I think that Nicholas was saying that the show was bad since Diana Morgan took over, ergo, she was always bad.
Title: High School Quiz Shows
Post by: Steve McClellan on December 18, 2005, 11:23:45 PM
[quote name=\'ChuckNet\' date=\'Dec 18 2005, 07:18 PM\']I'm willing to bet [New Jersey Challenge is] the same basic show as The LI Challenge[/quote]
Yup. (http://\"http://powertolearn.com/challenge\")

I wasn't able to find any online presence nor air times for Scholars' Bowl on WETP, It's Academic on WJZ, or Paterson's In the Know. Anyone got any more on any of these?

The list is up to about 30 shows now - am I the only one surprised that there are this many of them out there?
Title: High School Quiz Shows
Post by: CarbonCpy on December 18, 2005, 11:26:32 PM
[quote name=\'whoserman\' date=\'Dec 18 2005, 11:22 PM\']I think that Nicholas was saying that the show was bad since Diana Morgan took over, ergo, she was always bad.
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It was still worth repeating, though.
Title: High School Quiz Shows
Post by: inturnaround on December 19, 2005, 03:12:35 AM
[quote name=\'catkins522\' date=\'Dec 18 2005, 02:57 PM\']WBBH, aka NBC-2, has it's own high school challenge.  It's called "The A Team Challenge" (http://\"http://www.nbc-2.com/Features/ATeam/\").
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I pity the fool who named this show.

(Yeah, it was an obvious joke. I apologize)
Title: High School Quiz Shows
Post by: BrandonFG on December 19, 2005, 03:17:57 AM
[quote name=\'inturnaround\' date=\'Dec 19 2005, 03:12 AM\'][quote name=\'catkins522\' date=\'Dec 18 2005, 02:57 PM\']WBBH, aka NBC-2, has it's own high school challenge.  It's called "The A Team Challenge" (http://\"http://www.nbc-2.com/Features/ATeam/\").
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I pity the fool who named this show.

(Yeah, it was an obvious joke. I apologize)
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Title: High School Quiz Shows
Post by: Craig Karlberg on December 19, 2005, 03:56:18 AM
Not only did WPBS in Watertown NY hosted "Whixz Quiz" when I was growing up in upstate New York but WPTZ-TV 5 out of Plattsburgh NY did one called "Scholars for Dollars" on Sunday nights.  Even better was my high school(St. Lawerence Central) appeared in both shows,  Too bad I couldn't find anything on Scholars for Dpllars from the Plattsburgh station's web site so I assumed it no longer exsists as a show,  I prefer Scholars ove WQ because of the fact there are no penalties for an incorrect buzz-in guess in the middle of a question.  I prefer high scores.

To take Adam's Reach For The Top a step further, I've seen that show too.  I watched the Quebec version of it.  Never realized there were other provincial versions too.  I guess that's what happens when I live a mere 27 miles from the Canadian border,
Title: High School Quiz Shows
Post by: tvmitch on December 19, 2005, 08:23:43 AM
Didn't have a chance to thoroughly do a search for a post from Aaron or anyone who else lives close to my central Pennsylvania DMA, but WGAL-TV airs BrainBusters (http://\"http://www.wgal.com/brainbusters/index.html\"), our local high school quiz show.

Technically, WGAL (http://\"http://www.wgal.com/\"), our fine NBC affiliate, is based in Lancaster, PA, but is in the same market as Harrisburg. Schools from at least 6 counties in our area play in BrainBusters, including those from Lancaster, Dauphin (state capital Harrisburg is in Dauphin County), York, and Lebanon Counties.

BrainBusters is hosted by Rich Rosen, the same dude who hosted High-Q (of which I was a contestant twice!) on local ABC outlet WHTM (http://\"http://www.abc27.com/\"). This show was canned about 2002, and in 2003, Rosen got a sponsor to back his show and moved it to WGAL. As far as I know, BrainBusters has been a relative success on WGAL and is now in its third or fourth season.

Brad Rutter himself hosted "Inquisitive" on our UPN affiliate last year, which was also a high school quiz show that ran when BrainBusters didn't run. I don't know if that show is coming back or not, especially now that Mr. Rutter is in need of even less work than last year.
Title: High School Quiz Shows
Post by: Matt Ottinger on December 19, 2005, 08:49:50 AM
[quote name=\'mitchgroff\' date=\'Dec 19 2005, 09:23 AM\']Brad Rutter himself hosted "Inquisitive" on our UPN affiliate last year, which was also a high school quiz show that ran when BrainBusters didn't run. I don't know if that show is coming back or not, especially now that Mr. Rutter is in need of even less work than last year.[/quote]My understanding is that Brad is the driving force behind Inquisitive, even to the point of it being self-funded.  He does it because he wants to do it, I doubt it generates ANY profit for him.
Title: High School Quiz Shows
Post by: tvmitch on December 19, 2005, 09:23:30 AM
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Dec 19 2005, 08:49 AM\'][quote name=\'mitchgroff\' date=\'Dec 19 2005, 09:23 AM\']Brad Rutter himself hosted "Inquisitive" on our UPN affiliate last year, which was also a high school quiz show that ran when BrainBusters didn't run. I don't know if that show is coming back or not, especially now that Mr. Rutter is in need of even less work than last year.[/quote]My understanding is that Brad is the driving force behind Inquisitive, even to the point of it being self-funded.  He does it because he wants to do it, I doubt it generates ANY profit for him.
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I was out of the loop on Inquizitive as I was doing slave-labor for CNBC last year at this time...I recall seeing some sponsors on billboards around the county when I came home a couple weekends, but I never got a chance to catch the show. Wouldn't surprise me if he did self-fund (at least in part) the show.
Title: High School Quiz Shows
Post by: Jimmy Owen on December 19, 2005, 10:12:25 AM
The CBS affil in Alpena, MI, WBKB had a show also called "Knowlege Bowl" I'm not certain if it is currently in production.  The set is (or was) primitive (A lectern in the middle of two folding tables in front of an off-white curtain.)

Glad to hear the genre is thriving.  I'm guessing the format is somewhat public domain. I presume I wouldn't have to contact Don Reid or somebody if I wanted to start one in my area.
Title: High School Quiz Shows
Post by: Steve McClellan on December 19, 2005, 10:26:55 AM
Just some quick stats from what I've got so far:

Shows by network affiliation:
PBS - 12
NBC - 6
CBS - 4
ABC - 3
UPN - 1

States with more than one:
PA - 5
MI - 4
OH - 3
NY - 2

Size rankings of markets with shows (of the 210 Nielsen DMAs):
1*, 4*, 5*, 8, 9, 16, 22, 23, 25, 29, 32, 41, 42, 44, 60, 65, 66, 74*, 93, 98, 102, 108, 110, 113, 178, 180, 187
*Station does not appear to serve entire market

Most surprising stat: Only 2 shows west of the Mississippi.

Seems that the markets most amenable to HS quizzes have between 250,000 and 2 million TV households. Hm.
Title: High School Quiz Shows
Post by: MarkBarrett on December 19, 2005, 11:38:17 AM
Quiz Kids airs on [local independent - former NBC affliate] KRON in San Francisco at noon on Saturdays.
Title: High School Quiz Shows
Post by: vtown7 on December 19, 2005, 12:08:08 PM
[quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Dec 19 2005, 04:47 AM\'][quote name=\'inturnaround\' date=\'Dec 19 2005, 03:12 AM\'][quote name=\'catkins522\' date=\'Dec 18 2005, 02:57 PM\']WBBH, aka NBC-2, has it's own high school challenge.  It's called "The A Team Challenge" (http://\"http://www.nbc-2.com/Features/ATeam/\").
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I pity the fool who named this show.

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No, I'm thinking that given the production qualities of some of these things I hear, that you should be sent to the 1000$ Bee room.

Ha.  Now you'll all have nightmares!

Ryan :)
Title: High School Quiz Shows
Post by: Matt Ottinger on December 19, 2005, 12:27:59 PM
Here's one I don't think was mentioned:
http://www.ktiv.com/CustomPages/KTIVQuizBowl.cfm (http://\"http://www.ktiv.com/CustomPages/KTIVQuizBowl.cfm\")
Title: High School Quiz Shows
Post by: weaklink75 on December 19, 2005, 12:47:05 PM
[quote name=\'Steve McClellan\' date=\'Dec 18 2005, 11:23 PM\'][quote name=\'ChuckNet\' date=\'Dec 18 2005, 07:18 PM\']I'm willing to bet [New Jersey Challenge is] the same basic show as The LI Challenge[/quote]
Yup. (http://\"http://powertolearn.com/challenge\")

I wasn't able to find any online presence nor air times for Scholars' Bowl on WETP, It's Academic on WJZ, or Paterson's In the Know. Anyone got any more on any of these?

The list is up to about 30 shows now - am I the only one surprised that there are this many of them out there?
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No web presence for Baltimore's It's Academic other than the schedule for the station.... (http://\"http://wjz.com\"),it's on Saturday Mornings at 10AM.


And how many different formats do we have? The DC, Baltimore, and Pittsburgh shows use the same format...
Title: High School Quiz Shows
Post by: uncamark on December 19, 2005, 12:55:28 PM
Most likely, the radio station Chuck's referring to that's involved in "Know Your Heritage" is WGCI.

Interestingly enough, the web site of Central City Productions, its producers, still has the show on WBBM hosted by Dorothy Tucker (an anchor/reporter at that station at the time) and it looks like they haven't updated the pages on the show in years:

http://www.ccptv.com/heritage.htm (http://\"http://www.ccptv.com/heritage.htm\")
Title: High School Quiz Shows
Post by: brianhenke on December 19, 2005, 03:11:31 PM
In addition:

   WSB-TV in Atlanta airs a high school quiz called High Q. It's on at 7 a.m. on Sunday mornings.

   WHIO in Dayton airs a show called High Q (I don't know if the shows are related). It's on Sunday mornings too, at 8:30 a.m.

   Also, Cincinnati had It's Academic on WLWT (NBC) and later WCET (PBS). I know because my social science teacher was the advisor for my high school (Walnut Hills).

   Brian

   Lasting expressions?
Title: High School Quiz Shows
Post by: Matt Ottinger on December 19, 2005, 04:11:39 PM
[quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Dec 19 2005, 01:55 PM\']Interestingly enough, the web site of Central City Productions, its producers, still has the show on WBBM hosted by Dorothy Tucker (an anchor/reporter at that station at the time) and it looks like they haven't updated the pages on the show in years:[/quote]
One thing that show has/had going for it is an impressive set.  That's probably the first thing a viewer notices that just SCREAMS "local" in most other cases: the cheap tables, cardboard (or less) signage and plain curtains about an inch behind the teams.
Title: High School Quiz Shows
Post by: rugrats1 on December 19, 2005, 09:53:36 PM
[quote name=\'brianhenke\' date=\'Dec 19 2005, 03:11 PM\']   WSB-TV in Atlanta airs a high school quiz called High Q. It's on at 7 a.m. on Sunday mornings.

   WHIO in Dayton airs a show called High Q (I don't know if the shows are related). It's on Sunday mornings too, at 8:30 a.m.
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Maybe they are related, especially since Cox owns both WSB and WHIO.
Title: High School Quiz Shows
Post by: Robert Hutchinson on December 19, 2005, 11:34:02 PM
(Yeah, I couldn't help it. I went into review mode.)

After checking out some of the streaming video, I'm going to praise QuizBusters some more. The three shows I've watched so far were all at least decent, but they each had something irritating that just shouldn't still be there after X episodes or seasons.

KDKA has, at least in the first segment, pretty graphics with overbearing sound cues, and shamelessly easy material, without even the "buzzer beater" factor for a lot of it. They asked each of the three teams six questions, and it was a perfect sweep of 18, without so much as a note of guessing on any of them.

(_ P _ D _ R M _ S) (It's the outer layer of your skin.) (Yeesh.)

WPSU's Scholastic Scrimmage was better, with what seemed to be a mix of medium and hard questions, but there was no tension and little variety. It's tossups and bonuses all the way through, and the game is over when they play the funny sound, with no indication that it's coming. Oh, and they play the same "time's running down" music after *every question*.

The Granite State Challenge was probably closest to being excellent with some changes. They've given the older host a hip young cohost, who interviews the contestants outdoors between rounds (pre-taped). Skip skip skip. Some of the questions were terribly vague. And someone was waaaaay too proud of that lighting effect at the beginning and end.

QuizBusters puts the most excitement (when possible) at the end, has nice yet simple graphics, mixes up the questioning format, and the host ain't bad.
Title: High School Quiz Shows
Post by: mbclev on December 20, 2005, 02:50:05 AM
[quote name=\'weaklink75\' date=\'Dec 19 2005, 12:47 PM\'][quote name=\'Steve McClellan\' date=\'Dec 18 2005, 11:23 PM\'][quote name=\'ChuckNet\' date=\'Dec 18 2005, 07:18 PM\']I'm willing to bet [New Jersey Challenge is] the same basic show as The LI Challenge[/quote]
Yup. (http://\"http://powertolearn.com/challenge\")

I wasn't able to find any online presence nor air times for Scholars' Bowl on WETP, It's Academic on WJZ, or Paterson's In the Know. Anyone got any more on any of these?

The list is up to about 30 shows now - am I the only one surprised that there are this many of them out there?
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No web presence for Baltimore's It's Academic other than the schedule for the station.... (http://\"http://wjz.com\"),it's on Saturday Mornings at 10AM.


And how many different formats do we have? The DC, Baltimore, and Pittsburgh shows use the same format...
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"It's Academic" also airs in Charlottesville, VA (on WVIR-NBC 29) and in Cleveland (under the name "Academic Challenge" on WEWS-NewsChannel 5).  The Youngstown, OH "Academic Challenge" is a totally different format from Cleveland's version, as it's not licensed by Altman Productions.
Title: High School Quiz Shows
Post by: mbclev on December 20, 2005, 02:56:02 AM
[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Dec 19 2005, 10:12 AM\']The CBS affil in Alpena, MI, WBKB had a show also called "Knowlege Bowl" I'm not certain if it is currently in production.  The set is (or was) primitive (A lectern in the middle of two folding tables in front of an off-white curtain.)

Glad to hear the genre is thriving.  I'm guessing the format is somewhat public domain. I presume I wouldn't have to contact Don Reid or somebody if I wanted to start one in my area.
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If you want to start an "It's Academic" show in your area, for example, you would have to contact Altman Productions of Washington, D.C.  Their contact information is at:

http://www.nbc4.com/itsacademic/1499911/detail.html (http://\"http://www.nbc4.com/itsacademic/1499911/detail.html\")
Title: High School Quiz Shows
Post by: tom0930 on December 26, 2005, 08:26:44 PM
Allow me to add two more to your list....

First, in my hometown of Buffalo, It's Academic was on WBEN/WIVB-TV for more than 20 years with Bills play by play man Van Miller as Quizmaster.

Second, in my college home of Erie, PA, Academic Challenge was shown on WETG/WFXP along with public access cable for a few years. We produced the show at Gannon and I served as announcer for 92-93 and 93-94 seasons. The school sold WETG and that was basically it for the show.
Title: High School Quiz Shows
Post by: mbclev on December 30, 2005, 03:18:20 AM
[quote name=\'tom0930\' date=\'Dec 26 2005, 08:26 PM\']Allow me to add two more to your list....

First, in my hometown of Buffalo, It's Academic was on WBEN/WIVB-TV for more than 20 years with Bills play by play man Van Miller as Quizmaster.

Second, in my college home of Erie, PA, Academic Challenge was shown on WETG/WFXP along with public access cable for a few years. We produced the show at Gannon and I served as announcer for 92-93 and 93-94 seasons. The school sold WETG and that was basically it for the show.
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Was the Erie "Academic Challenge" licensed by Altman Productions?  I have on my computer a city-by-city history of the Altmans' high school quiz shows, and I could add the Erie version to this list if that is the case.
Title: High School Quiz Shows
Post by: TimK2003 on January 02, 2006, 07:48:56 PM
[quote name=\'mmb5\' date=\'Dec 18 2005, 10:33 AM\']Toledo, OH had one, but it disappeared several years ago
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From what I remember from my collegiate years at the University of Toledo, I believe the Toledo show was simply called "High School Challenge", which was a weekly staple on WTVG--Channel 13.

I only remember seeing a sliver of one episode, but from what I recall it was *very* dry -- in comparison to Cleveland's "Academic Challenge".  The host was I believe either the station manager or news director from Channel 13 (he was old and very stone-faced in his delivery), and the set was much like a Match Game '7x seating arrangement -- top tier of 3 vs bottom tier of 3 -- with only 2 schools in competition per show and *no* audience.

I think the show was on forever until the early 90's -- not sure if it ever came back in one form or another.
Title: High School Quiz Shows
Post by: Jimmy Owen on January 02, 2006, 08:05:38 PM
Frank Venner, who was the dean of Toledo anchormen was the quizmaster.  The title was even more unimaginative than you remember--"High School Quiz."
Title: High School Quiz Shows
Post by: ChuckNet on January 02, 2006, 08:16:21 PM
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Frank Venner, who was the dean of Toledo anchormen was the quizmaster. The title was even more unimaginative than you remember--"High School Quiz."

Around here, WTNH (Ch. 8) in Hartford/New Haven had a similar series, High School Bowl, which was a Sun. afternoon staple for much of the 80s...station weatherman Bob Picozzi was the host.

Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
Title: High School Quiz Shows
Post by: TimK2003 on January 02, 2006, 08:18:10 PM
[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Jan 2 2006, 08:05 PM\']Frank Venner, who was the dean of Toledo anchormen was the quizmaster.  The title was even more unimaginative than you remember--"High School Quiz."
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Thank you for the info, Jimmy!  It was Venner, who by the late 80's was either semi-retired or worked behind the scenes at WTVG. I don't remember him being an anchor at that time. I think he was doing the occasional Editorial segments and that was it.  For some reason the name Neil Carmean kept eating at me when I did the first post.  I think he was the news director at the time.

And the un-creative name "High School Quiz" pretty much was a perfect match for the show's overall presentation.
Title: High School Quiz Shows
Post by: Gameshowhost on January 03, 2006, 12:50:51 PM
Brad Rutter did indeed fund Inquizitive from which he took a break while his $2 million Jeopardy! quest was being taped.  He was a moderator with me at this past year's National Academic Tournament.  He'll be with us this year as will David Madden!
I'm shooting a pilot for The All New High Q this Friday, January 6th on the campus of Marshall University here in Huntington, WV.  We are set to go into production in March.  It will follow the format of our National Academic Tournament created by Chip Beall of Questions Unlimited.  We will offer the show to other cable systems here in the tri state.  West Virginia Public Broadcasting may run it as well statewide.
Ernie
Title: High School Quiz Shows
Post by: mmb5 on January 03, 2006, 05:03:38 PM
[quote name=\'Gameshowhost\' date=\'Jan 3 2006, 12:50 PM\']Brad Rutter did indeed fund Inquizitive from which he took a break while his $2 million Jeopardy! quest was being taped.  He was a moderator with me at this past year's National Academic Tournament.  He'll be with us this year as will David Madden!
I'm shooting a pilot for The All New High Q this Friday, January 6th on the campus of Marshall University here in Huntington, WV.  We are set to go into production in March.  It will follow the format of our National Academic Tournament created by Chip Beall of Questions Unlimited.  We will offer the show to other cable systems here in the tri state.  West Virginia Public Broadcasting may run it as well statewide.
Ernie
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Title: High School Quiz Shows
Post by: mbclev on January 05, 2006, 02:00:37 AM
[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Jan 2 2006, 08:05 PM\']Frank Venner, who was the dean of Toledo anchormen was the quizmaster.  The title was even more unimaginative than you remember--"High School Quiz."
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I don't know how long "High School Quiz" lasted, but Frank was the host for nearly the entire run (he took 1983-85 off to run for the U.S. Congress from the Toledo area, losing to Marcy Kaptur. In his absence, Bill Spencer hosted from 1983-84, and Gordon Ward did the '84-'85 season).

Some years later, the quiz program "Brainstorm" appeared on WGTE public television, and ran for a while.
Title: High School Quiz Shows
Post by: mbclev on January 05, 2006, 02:12:37 AM
[quote name=\'TimK2003\' date=\'Jan 2 2006, 07:48 PM\'][quote name=\'mmb5\' date=\'Dec 18 2005, 10:33 AM\']Toledo, OH had one, but it disappeared several years ago
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From what I remember from my collegiate years at the University of Toledo, I believe the Toledo show was simply called "High School Challenge", which was a weekly staple on WTVG--Channel 13.

I only remember seeing a sliver of one episode, but from what I recall it was *very* dry -- in comparison to Cleveland's "Academic Challenge".  The host was I believe either the station manager or news director from Channel 13 (he was old and very stone-faced in his delivery), and the set was much like a Match Game '7x seating arrangement -- top tier of 3 vs bottom tier of 3 -- with only 2 schools in competition per show and *no* audience.

I think the show was on forever until the early 90's -- not sure if it ever came back in one form or another.
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Actually, it was two four-member teams competing, and it was a single-elimination tournament.  The game was initially played in two rounds, and if you buzzed in first and were right, your team earned 20 points.  Rebounds (guesses after an incorrect answer) were worth 10 points.  The only rule change in round two was that incorrect first guesses cost a team 10 points.  Later, additional features were added.
Title: High School Quiz Shows
Post by: tom0930 on January 05, 2006, 11:52:37 PM
Nope...as far as I remember, the questions came from Questions Unlimited of Columbus Ohio.

Was the Erie "Academic Challenge" licensed by Altman Productions?  I have on my computer a city-by-city history of the Altmans' high school quiz shows, and I could add the Erie version to this list if that is the case.
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Title: High School Quiz Shows
Post by: mmb5 on January 06, 2006, 04:19:02 PM
Another one to add, This time in Minnesota (http://\"http://www.borderfoods.com/?id=83\")

--Mike
Title: High School Quiz Shows
Post by: Matt Ottinger on January 06, 2006, 05:59:44 PM
[quote name=\'mmb5\' date=\'Jan 6 2006, 05:19 PM\']Another one to add, This time in Minnesota (http://\"http://www.borderfoods.com/?id=83\")[/quote]
That contact person seems familiar...
Title: High School Quiz Shows
Post by: AZAndrewG on January 08, 2006, 01:41:50 AM
[quote name=\'DYosua\' date=\'Dec 18 2005, 07:03 AM\']New Hampshire has a program on Public Television called "Granite State Challenge".  Their web site is here (http://\"http://www.nhptv.org/product/gsc/gsc.htm\") - you can also stream the shows from there.
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Shows like this prove once and for all that hosting a high school quiz program could lead to bigger and better things.  The current host is Jim Jeannotte.  His predecessor?  None other than Tom Bergeron.