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Can't remember if we've talked about this before, but there were probably several hosts who really didn't like the shows they were hosting. Some that come to mind:
Peter Tomarken, who stated that either "Bargain Hunters" or "Hit Man" (or maybe both) was a pile of crap.
Art James, who according to some sources stated that "Blank Check" should be called "Blank Mind"
Charles Nelson Reilly, who, according to TVGuide, hated the kids show he hosted on Saturday mornings called "Uncle Croc's Block".
Any others?
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[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' date=\'Dec 1 2005, 08:58 AM\']Can't remember if we've talked about this before, but there were probably several hosts who really didn't like the shows they were hosting. Some that come to mind:
Peter Tomarken, who stated that either "Bargain Hunters" or "Hit Man" (or maybe both) was a pile of crap.
Art James, who according to some sources stated that "Blank Check" should be called "Blank Mind"
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David Hammett's interview with Gene Rayburn in 1996 indicated Gene was not too fond of BtB85 and told David he didn't want to dwell on it.
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Jackie Gleason, nuff said.
One time Alex Trebek was a guest with Regis and Kathie Lee (pre-Millionaire) and Regis told Alex that one thing he had always wanted to do in broadcasting but hadn't was host a game show. Alex said (paraphasing) "You did host a game show" Kathie Lee "You did?" Regis "Oh yeah...(under breath)...the Neighbors."
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IIRC, Geoff Edwards said about "Hollywood's Talking"; "When I got the job hosting that show, I figured that it wouldn't last more than 13 weeks........ and it didn't."
I also recall him being not too fond of Starcade as well, save for Bagman.
Tyshaun
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[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' date=\'Dec 1 2005, 08:58 AM\']
Art James, who according to some sources stated that "Blank Check" should be called "Blank Mind"
Any others?
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I once saw Art on a talk show where he admitted he didn't think "Fractured Phrases" was much of a game...although a home version of sorts now exists called "Mad Gab".
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I can remember on an episode of "Card Sharks" Bob Eubanks saying how "The Diamond Head Game" was the biggest piece of [Bloopety BLOOP] he ever hosted. Nice to know it was more than us here at the Forum that agreed with that sentiment.
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Rayburn was also said to be not terribly fond of The Match Game-Hollywood Squares Hour.
I can imagine that, though he would be too gentlemanly ever to say anything publicly, Uncle Bill was probably not too thrilled with some of the shows with which he got stuck during the 1970's.
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Just thought of another one for Gene Rayburn. On "Geraldo" Gene reminisced that "Dough Re Mi" was "dreadful."
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Funny thing about Gleason....according to one book I read about him, he actually wanted to do a game or quiz show. Having done MC work in nightclubs and local stage shows, he thought he could be a funny and entertaining host like Groucho with minimal work (rehearsals, which he wasn't fond of anyway). When CBS asked him what he wanted to do, he did mention hosting a game. Now whether the "Picture" format was developed with him in mind, or it was pitched to the net and they decided to give Gleason a shot I don't know, but he wanted one. In a way, I could see him in a Daly/Moore-type show, providing the format was as strong as the host, so Gleason wouldn't feel like he had to carry the whole program. Masquerade Party, maybe?
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I'll probably catch hell from other for this, but....
Isn't a fair statement to say Ray Combs grew to hate doing "Family Feud"? Discuss and/or flame away?
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I can remember on an episode of "Card Sharks" Bob Eubanks saying how "The Diamond Head Game" was the biggest piece of [Bloopety BLOOP] he ever hosted.
Yep...I even have that episode on tape and it just didn't come to mind.
Isn't a fair statement to say Ray Combs grew to hate doing "Family Feud"? Discuss and/or flame away?
I'm not sure how much he hated it, but I remember the producer making a comment once that went something like "he wanted to do The Ray Combs Show, I wanted to do Family Feud".
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I'm surprised nobody's mentioned Marc Summers and Double Dare. With his condition, I'm surprised he went 7 whole years hosting that sort of show.
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[quote name=\'whammy5000\' date=\'Dec 1 2005, 05:01 PM\']I'm surprised nobody's mentioned Marc Summers and Double Dare. With his condition, I'm surprised he went 7 whole years hosting that sort of show.
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Has he actually said that he didn't like the game, or are you assuming?
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[quote name=\'whammy5000\' date=\'Dec 1 2005, 07:01 PM\']I'm surprised nobody's mentioned Marc Summers and Double Dare. With his condition, I'm surprised he went 7 whole years hosting that sort of show.
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His "condition"? What condition??
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Rapper: You down with OCD?
Marc: Yeah you know (Marc gets slimed) AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
Put it to you this way, in the brief chance I had to meet him I never got the impression he hated Double Dare. I even mention it and he was appreciative of me mentioning it. I mean if he hated the game, why would he otherwise have consulted for the (lesser) DD 2000?
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[quote name=\'FOXSportsFan\' date=\'Dec 1 2005, 04:33 PM\']Put it to you this way, in the brief chance I had to meet him I never got the impression he hated Double Dare. I even mention it and he was appreciative of me mentioning it. I mean if he hated the game, why would he otherwise have consulted for the (lesser) DD 2000?
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Yeah, but, God help me, I see Whammy5K's point...with OCD like he had, he had to go apes**t inside when they would run through that meticulously set-up obstacle course and just tear everything up.
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I can certainly understand how a person with OCD would strongly dislike Double Dare. I just think it's wrong to make assumptions.
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Ya have a lil too much spiked egg nog, Chris? : )
Yeah, I mean it had to be hell for him. It practically was. And, he makes it known in his book that on camera he played it cool while off camera he'd be the guy who rips the suit off in the back ASAP.
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[quote name=\'FOXSportsFan\' date=\'Dec 1 2005, 04:33 PM\']Put it to you this way, in the brief chance I had to meet him I never got the impression he hated Double Dare. I even mention it and he was appreciative of me mentioning it. I mean if he hated the game, why would he otherwise have consulted for the (lesser) DD 2000?
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Marc and I have become good friends of late. Perhaps I can help clarify some of this. Marc loved and loves DD; it made him a piece of our collective memories for as long as that generation of TV viewers lives. Marc is recognized absolutely everywhere, and is happy to meet fans and discuss the show.
It is dumb luck that, of all hosts, he ended up helping to create that show's success when it presented a unique personal challenge to him. I give him great credit for doing it all those years, under difficult circumstances, and never letting it affect the show.
Marc is now well past almost all of the problems he had with OCD, and his story of overcoming the worst of it is inspiring. He readily and freely shakes hands with people he meets and works with. I learned to always ask hosts whether they are comfortable with me shaking their hand on stage during their intro to the studio audience; there are a number of hosts with quirks and superstitions. Marc appreciated me asking, but welcomed a nightly handshake when we worked together recently. That's unlike two hosts with whom I worked and learned to never extend my hand. No names ;-)
Marc is scheduled to appear on Tony Danza's show on Monday 12/5. With any luck they'll make an unholy mess with some cooking segment!
Randy
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[quote name=\'tyshaun1\' date=\'Dec 1 2005, 10:30 AM\']IIRC, Geoff Edwards said about "Hollywood's Talking"; "When I got the job hosting that show, I figured that it wouldn't last more than 13 weeks........ and it didn't."
I also recall him being not too fond of Starcade as well, save for Bagman.
Tyshaun
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Nobody would hang around the studio after-hours trying to top the other staff members' scores on all the games if they hated the show. Geoff quite obviously loved it.
Sticking with the host in mind, Geoff did eventually grow to dislike "The New Treasure Hunt" after Chuck Barris' "creative input" started to disturb him somewhat. After four seasons and increasingly uncomfortable ideas for skits to do in Season 5, Geoff quit the show.
And as far as Ray Combs goes, I don't think he hated Family Feud, I think he just ended up being surprised by it. I think he approached it believing it would be something he did early in his career, not how his entire career would be remembered.
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[quote name=\'Mike Tennant\' date=\'Dec 1 2005, 12:14 PM\']I can imagine that, though he would be too gentlemanly ever to say anything publicly, Uncle Bill was probably not too thrilled with some of the shows with which he got stuck during the 1970's.[/quote]
The worst thing I can find him saying on the record was that Winning Streak "just didn't work". Bill was smart enough not to burn bridges by bad-mouthing shows, he never knew where his next gig might come from.
Also, I think there's a big difference between hosts hating shows they're working on at the moment and hosts talking about some "piece of crap" they worked on decades ago. Anybody who's been around for a while is going to have lesser entries on his resume, but that doesn't mean he hated doing it at the time.
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Surprised none of you have mentioned Chuck Henry and NYSI '89...he hated it so much that he requested that it never be rerun again.
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[quote name=\'Casey Buck\' date=\'Dec 2 2005, 02:55 AM\']Surprised none of you have mentioned Chuck Henry and NYSI '89...he hated it so much that he requested that it never be rerun again.[/quote]
I'm not sure that's a case of him hating the show as much as it is that seeing him as a game show host detracts from the image he's trying to protect as a Serious Newsman.
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It's a possibility (I don't know how accurate it is) that Chuck Barris, even though he warmed up to the job of hosting GONG, doesn't look back on GONG with a lot of fondness. He's said in a number of interviews that he was suffering a midlife crisis on national TV while doing the show. He also wrote in Confessions about how people would just walk up to him in the streets and start showing him how (un)talented they were (and that he was booed while introduced at a Philadelphia Flyers game).
Pure speculation, but it's not implausible.
Doug
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[quote name=\'SRIV94\' date=\'Dec 2 2005, 08:27 AM\'](and that he was booed while introduced at a Philadelphia Flyers game).
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Take into account that Philly Flyer fans (especially 1970's Philly Flyer fans) would boo an announcement that the cure for cancer had been found. :)
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Dec 2 2005, 11:07 AM\']Take into account that Philly Flyer fans (especially 1970's Philly Flyer fans) would boo an announcement that the cure for cancer had been found. :)
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Point taken.
It used to be said of Philly fans--"We're right behind you, win or tie." May still be. :)
Doug
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Gene didn't exactly say he "hated" Match Game, but he said the original format was too restraining for him (a pain in the BLANK), and that the 70s format was very weak, and a "dumb game", which is why he went out of his way to make it as entertaining as possible.
As for Starcade, Geoff told me that he just felt the format didn't allow him much leeway to ad-lib, but we all know he loves video games.
Bob Eubanks said in a TV Guide interview that of the shows he hosted, Trivia Trap and Dream House were the shows he felt had very weak formats (no mention of Diamond Head in that interview). He said Dream House should've been called "Dream Furniture", since they gave away much more furniture than houses, and he never understood why the player can't just give the correct answer to a question when he knows the answer.
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[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' date=\'Dec 1 2005, 04:11 PM\']
Isn't a fair statement to say Ray Combs grew to hate doing "Family Feud"? Discuss and/or flame away?
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What exactly did Howard mean by that?
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Mr Felscher is saying the star of the show is the game, rather than the host. He had the same concerns during the ABC run as well.
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I'm not sure that's a case of him hating the show as much as it is that seeing him as a game show host detracts from the image he's trying to protect as a Serious Newsman.
Much like Adam Arkin won't let his appearances on MG be rerun (presumably) because it might detract from his reputation ad a dramatic actor, although he kinda lost some credibility back in 03 w/Baby Bob...LOL.
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Dec 2 2005, 11:16 AM\']I'm not sure that's a case of him hating the show as much as it is that seeing him as a game show host detracts from the image he's trying to protect as a Serious Newsman.
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Given the story I've heard about him during the San Bernardino forest fires, I'd say the biggest threat to Chuck Henry's Serious Newsman Image is Chuck Henry himself.
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[quote name=\'CarbonCpy\' date=\'Dec 2 2005, 11:32 PM\'][quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Dec 2 2005, 11:16 AM\']I'm not sure that's a case of him hating the show as much as it is that seeing him as a game show host detracts from the image he's trying to protect as a Serious Newsman.
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Given the story I've heard about him during the San Bernardino forest fires, I'd say the biggest threat to Chuck Henry's Serious Newsman Image is Chuck Henry himself.
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Que?
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[quote name=\'Adam Nedeff\' date=\'Dec 3 2005, 03:18 AM\'][quote name=\'CarbonCpy\' date=\'Dec 2 2005, 11:32 PM\'][quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Dec 2 2005, 11:16 AM\']I'm not sure that's a case of him hating the show as much as it is that seeing him as a game show host detracts from the image he's trying to protect as a Serious Newsman.
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Given the story I've heard about him during the San Bernardino forest fires, I'd say the biggest threat to Chuck Henry's Serious Newsman Image is Chuck Henry himself.
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Que?
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Maybe this excerpt from google groups will help?
"I haven't heard much from that area as the news crews are
much more cautious today after ch4 reporter Chuck Henry nearly lost
his life in Sky Forest yesterday. They were doing a live shot as
flames approached and signed off to make a hasty escape. Unfortunately
the smoke was so thick, their van wouldn't start and quickly caught
fire. If not for some quick thinking firemen passing by, they would
have been killed."
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[quote name=\'Adam Nedeff\' date=\'Dec 3 2005, 03:18 AM\']Que?
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More or less what cmjb13 said. A few friends of mine were talking about local celebrities when one guy brought up Chuck Henry, although his version of the story involved the newsvan getting there against the firefighters' instructions and right in the path of the blaze.
Granted, the man prefaced the story with "A small child wrapped under the wheels of a bus? You can bet you'll find this Crusader of Tact to be right there interviewing the mother asking how she'll cope seconds after her child is pronounced dead. Hell, he'd probably show her video of the accident so he can get that money shot of a distraught mother in tears. That's just good TV." So his version of the story might have been biased just a bit.
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[quote name=\'SamPrainito\' date=\'Dec 1 2005, 10:55 AM\']Isn't a fair statement to say Ray Combs grew to hate doing "Family Feud"? Discuss and/or flame away?
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That's interesting. I've never heard that before. I always thought Ray enjoyed doing the Feud and he was thoroughly crushed when he lost that gig? I was under the impression personal problems along with losing Feud contributed to his depression which caused him to take his life.
What I did hear was that Ray did not enjoy his last project on the Family Channel, hosting the program for kids. From what I recall, both he as well as friends and coworkers thought he could and should have been doing something ... "bigger and better;" Family Challenge was just a job until the next real gig came along. Unfortunately however, that was never to be as Ray grew far discouraged with his professional, and private life.
Oh yeah, and Howard Felscher... Yeah he said that about Ray wanting to do the Ray Combs show while he wanted to do the "Family Feud," but didn't he have something to say about every host? Seems to me, he was the one who caused the friction between host and producer. Personalities clash, but with everyone??
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[quote name=\'MyCapableAssistant\' date=\'Dec 4 2005, 08:18 AM\']That's interesting. I've never heard that before. I always thought Ray ENJOYED doing the Feud and he was thoroughly crushed when he lost that gig? I was under the impression personal problems ALONG WITH losing Feud contributed to his depression which caused him to take his life.
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It seems to me that Ray seemed more DISINTERESTED in the show as TIME went along. At this POINT in the run on GSN, he comes ACROSS as INSINCERE, which I think is violation #1 for a game show HOST, to behave like you really don't CARE about the outcome of the GAME or its PLAYERS.
Furthermore, please QUIT typing like THIS, it's quite ANNOYING to read. Thank you.
Tyshaun
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Please COOL your JETS, Shaun.
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I really wonder what Finn and Wayne thought of TJW and TTD '90 (respectively).
David
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[quote name=\'tyshaun1\' date=\'Dec 4 2005, 11:13 AM\']At this POINT in the run on GSN, he comes ACROSS as INSINCERE, which I think is violation #1 for a game show HOST, to behave like you really don't CARE about the outcome of the GAME or its PLAYERS.
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He did seem to get a little less enthusiastic as time went on, but I wouldn't go as far as to say that he acted like he didn't care about the game or the players.
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[quote name=\'tyshaun1\' date=\'Dec 4 2005, 08:13 AM\'][quote name=\'MyCapableAssistant\' date=\'Dec 4 2005, 08:18 AM\']That's interesting. I've never heard that before. I always thought Ray enjoyed doing the Feud and he was thoroughly crushed when he lost that gig? I was under the impression personal problems along with losing Feud contributed to his depression which caused him to take his life.
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It seems to me that Ray seemed more DISINTERESTED in the show as TIME went along. At this POINT in the run on GSN, he comes ACROSS as INSINCERE, which I think is violation #1 for a game show HOST, to behave like you really don't CARE about the outcome of the GAME or its PLAYERS.
Furthermore, please QUIT typing like THIS, it's quite ANNOYING to read. Thank you.
Tyshaun
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Sorry, I've no clue what you're talking about. Typing like what??
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[quote name=\'MyCapableAssistant\' date=\'Dec 4 2005, 07:25 PM\']Sorry, I've no clue what you're talking about. Typing like what??
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Wow, yer an idiot. You edited your post to make it look like you did nothing wrong when Tyshaun clearly quoted you as doing so. This reminds me of the Mark Raby incident; he tried to cover his tracks; but was busted by someone who quoted him.
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[quote name=\'MyCapableAssistant\' date=\'Dec 4 2005, 07:25 PM\']Sorry, I've no clue what you're talking about. Typing like what??
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Ummm, what's that word that Chris Lemon likes to use? That three letter word that sums up a whole post? Oh yeah.......
wow.
Tyshaun
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[quote name=\'Modor\' date=\'Dec 4 2005, 04:50 PM\']Wow, yer an idiot. You edited your post to make it look like you did nothing wrong when Tyshaun clearly quoted you as doing so.
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The only idiots here are you and Tyshawn, when you're gonna climb all over someone for capitalizing two words.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Dec 4 2005, 08:43 PM\']The only idiots here are you and Tyshawn, when you're gonna climb all over someone for capitalizing two words.
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Not the point. If you can do something (minor or major), then deny doing it, while there's evidence you did what you did...then...
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[quote name=\'Modor\' date=\'Dec 4 2005, 05:45 PM\']Not the point. If you can do something (minor or major), then deny doing it, while there's evidence you did what you did...then...
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No, it is the point, because your lone contribution to this discussion has been your typical snarking, and this one wasn't even remotely justified.
Go. Get. Laid.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Dec 4 2005, 08:49 PM\']Go. Get. Laid.
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But not in this group, please. We're not G-rated but we do have some limits. :-)
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Whatever.
Person A does something.
Person B catches them do something.
Person A tries to cover what they did.
Person A then denies it, despite the evidence.
If you want to promote that kind of behavior, more power to you, I guess.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Dec 4 2005, 08:43 PM\'][quote name=\'Modor\' date=\'Dec 4 2005, 04:50 PM\']Wow, yer an idiot. You edited your post to make it look like you did nothing wrong when Tyshaun clearly quoted you as doing so.
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The only idiots here are you and Tyshawn, when you're gonna climb all over someone for capitalizing two words.
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You've climbed over people for things that were worse than this, so I wouldn't talk if I were you, Lemon. :-P
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The day MyCapableAssistant pulls trade scams, lies about having multiple illnesses he/she doesn't have, or fakes his/her own death is the day that a comparison to Mark Raby is appropriate. (Coincidentally, Mr. Raby recently tried to return to this forum; not surprisingly, he ignored the question of how he could post from the grave.) No, we're not thrilled when people change quotes and then deny it, but the content wasn't changed, just the emphasis, and it was a single incident -- at worst it merited a low-key chiding, not a comparison to a known, repeated scam artist.
Of course, the original "offense" was laughable. If anyone else complains about inappropriate emphasis, I may be tempted to remove the restrictions from the account of a certain previous offender. Do you [font=\"Impact\"]REALLY[/font] [font=\"Optima\"]want[/font] [font=\"Courier\"]that?[/font][/i][/b] :-P
Cool it... all of you. I'm leaving the thread open because until this came up, it was a good discussion -- let's see if we can get back to that, okay?
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Dec 4 2005, 08:43 PM\']The only idiots here are you and Tyshawn, when you're gonna climb all over someone for capitalizing two words.
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I'm guessing you caught the post after he edited it, because it was a lot more than 2 words. Try every three words or so. Plus, I politely asked, and Mark doesn't speak for me.
The only idiot around here is you for jumping to conclusions.
Tyshaun
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The drama continues....
Funny how one person tells another to "Go. Get. Laid.", when they've posted 6,000+ times here.
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[quote name=\'DJDustman\' date=\'Dec 4 2005, 10:32 PM\']The drama continues....
Funny how one person tells another to "Go. Get. Laid.", when they've posted 6,000+ times here.
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It could be worse though and have almost 12,000 posts on another certain message board that I'll leave up to the rest of you to figure out which one that is. :-D
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[quote name=\'tyshaun1\' date=\'Dec 4 2005, 07:19 PM\']I'm guessing you caught the post after he edited it, because it was a lot more than 2 words.
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I based my comment on your quote, which contained exactly three words in all caps. It did not occur to me that there could have been more to the original post. My apologies.
I still think it's a silly thing to nitpick, tho.
Plus, I politely asked, and Mark doesn't speak for me.
Yes, of course. My apologies to you again.
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[quote name=\'dzinkin\' date=\'Dec 4 2005, 10:16 PM\'] Do you [font=\"Impact\"]REALLY[/font] [font=\"Optima\"]want[/font] [font=\"Courier\"]that?[/font][/i][/b] :-P
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So, that means The Insider will be cancelled for H˛, right? :)
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I love the drama a message board brings up.
Back to the topic at hand.... I can't imagine Groucho being thrilled at all of his lines being scripted on You Bet Your Life. I saw on a docutemtary that he rarely improved and it really frustrated him. Every once and a while he got away with it.
Plus, if we're counting pilots, George Fennerman on his Crossword pilot looked like he was ready to run for the door. Messing up his questions and not really knowing the rules of the game you could tell he was getting more and more uncomfortable.
Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. I'm strong, I can take it.
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IIRC, In Hector Arce's "The Secret Word is Groucho", the prepared lines were a fallback in case Groucho was having problems with anything from a cold to a bad divorce. Supposedly, Groucho had the option of using the prepared line, or coming up with one of his own - so if he was in the zone, he could ad-lib as much as he wanted, especially knowing the heavy editing would cut out any bomb lines or risque material. Groucho and Guidel understood the value of having a safety net to keep the show's humor level consistent.
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Aha...then we can guess! :)
The easy one is Howie Mandel. The other...hmm...Anne Robinson (because she prefers a big bear hug!).
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[quote name=\'tyshaun1\' date=\'Dec 4 2005, 08:43 PM\']Ummm, what's that word that Chris Lemon likes to use? That three letter word that sums up a whole post? Oh yeah.......
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What exactly does "wow" mean in this site? Is it computer lingo or is it an acronym?
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Wow.
(It means just what it means in real life.)
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[quote name=\'whoserman\' date=\'Dec 5 2005, 09:35 PM\']Wow.
(It means just what it means in real life.)
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Anyway...Rolf Benirschke stated in interviews that his brief stint as daytime "Wheel of Fortune" host (after Sajak left for his CBS talk show, but of course already had his nighttime "Wheel" gig) was a flop.
And I think Peter Marshall never liked doing "Fantasy" or "All-Star Blitz" after spending all those years on Hollywood Squares. Ironically enough, the MG/HS Hour replaced Fantasy, and if it wasn't for Marshall as host of the HS portion instead of Jon Bauman the show would've lasted...well, two seasons.
Oh yeah, he never got paid for "Yahtzee" and "Reel to Reel Picture Show" either!
Jonathan Allen
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[quote name=\'johnnya2k3\' date=\'Dec 5 2005, 10:44 PM\']Ironically enough, the MG/HS Hour replaced Fantasy, and if it wasn't for Marshall as host of the HS portion instead of Jon Bauman the show would've lasted...well, two seasons.
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Somehow; I doubt this. Have you ever seen an episode of it? The Squares portion was terribly boring; Peter Marshall or not; due to the fact that all questions were mutiple choice.
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[quote name=\'johnnya2k3\' date=\'Dec 5 2005, 10:44 PM\']Anyway...Rolf Benirschke stated in interviews that his brief stint as daytime "Wheel of Fortune" host was a flop.[/quote]
I don't think he'd get many arguments against that opinion, but it doesn't mean he didn't like the show or enjoy hosting it.
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[quote name=\'dzinkin\' date=\'Dec 5 2005, 10:55 PM\'][quote name=\'whoserman\' date=\'Dec 5 2005, 09:35 PM\']Wow.
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I think so, but it still doesn't beat the question "what does whoosh mean?"
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[quote name=\'Modor\' date=\'Dec 5 2005, 10:01 PM\'][quote name=\'johnnya2k3\' date=\'Dec 5 2005, 10:44 PM\']Ironically enough, the MG/HS Hour replaced Fantasy, and if it wasn't for Marshall as host of the HS portion instead of Jon Bauman the show would've lasted...well, two seasons.
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Somehow; I doubt this. Have you ever seen an episode of it? The Squares portion was terribly boring; Peter Marshall or not; due to the fact that all questions were mutiple choice.
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And besides, it was pretty much established early on that barring huge ratings, it was inevitably a place-holder for "Santa Barbara"--they could've had Bill Cullen hosting the whole thing and it wouldn't have stayed on any longer than it did.
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[quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Dec 6 2005, 04:17 PM\']And besides, it was pretty much established early on that barring huge ratings, it was inevitably a place-holder for "Santa Barbara"--they could've had Bill Cullen hosting the whole thing and it wouldn't have stayed on any longer than it did.
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Indeed. And if it weren't for Lloyd Bochner's heart attack (the original choice for lead character C.C. Capwell) delaying the start of Santa Barbara due to the scramble to recast that role, MG/HS would've been bounced the same day as Hot Potato.