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Title: Wheel's New Season...
Post by: $100kPyramidfan on September 12, 2005, 08:09:45 PM
Hello. For those of you who saw it, does anyone have any opinions or thoughts about the new season of Wheel of Fortune? It was pre-empted here in the Atlanta Metro for a local football special.

Brandon
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Post by: Chief-O on September 12, 2005, 08:21:01 PM
I'd have something to say about the intro, but Lemon could say it better than I could.
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Post by: gameshowguy2000 on September 12, 2005, 08:23:25 PM
I was going to say the same thing about the intro. But I'll sum that up in one word: Bizarre.

For the show itself, not too bad.
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Post by: urbanpreppie05 on September 12, 2005, 08:34:18 PM
What's the difference with the intro?
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Post by: bandit_bobby on September 12, 2005, 08:42:35 PM
Boy, talk about putting some of their promo work to use on the intro.

I would have left the pacing alone as it was.
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Post by: Robert Hutchinson on September 12, 2005, 08:47:56 PM
It's a short piece of animation showing a guy dropping everything to get ready to watch Wheel. "Wheel of Fortune--loved by bachelors and their dressed-up cats."

The show was pretty much what you would expect from the earlier reports--an easier category showed up, the commercials were shifted around, and they couldn't stop talking about the Wheel Watcher's Club chance for a car. Oh, and the contestants were--but I'll stop there.
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Post by: clemon79 on September 12, 2005, 08:49:10 PM
It continually amazes me (and it shouldn't anymore) that the subgroup of our membership who have a freakin' cow whenever the least little thing is changed on a game show is also the subgroup who happens to think that WOF is the Second Coming as television goes.
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Post by: Red on September 12, 2005, 08:52:36 PM
The show felt like it was in fast forward. Pat talked faster, Vanna walked faster. They either cut part of spins out or they make them spin lighter. It is just not fun anymore.
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Post by: BrandonFG on September 12, 2005, 09:41:25 PM
I checked it out. Still makes me long for the late-80s/early-90s, when it was about the GAME, and not how many ads and fancy graphics the show can cram into 22 minutes.

D_G
_ND
P_NY
SH_W

-it's a PHRASE- (vowels left)

That being said, the way they had a commercial outro following the bonus round, then immediately fade in with the post-mortem really caught me off guard, why not just have Vanna walk over to the contestant, or have Pat say bye (a la early syndie eps.) and cue fee plugs?

Is this going to be the norm, or was Wheel just strapped for time today? Not that I'm complaining, but it just looked like a REALLY cruddy edit.
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Post by: WilliamPorygon on September 12, 2005, 09:43:18 PM
Just wait until next season... the opening sequence will show all the folks at the retirement home abandoning their bingo game and racing their wheelchairs back to their rooms to catch Wheel.

The "No More Vowels" graphic and sound effect are even more annoying than last season.
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Post by: tmq800 on September 12, 2005, 09:54:24 PM
What is a commercial outro?
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Post by: clemon79 on September 12, 2005, 09:57:23 PM
[quote name=\'tmq800\' date=\'Sep 12 2005, 06:54 PM\']What is a commercial outro?
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The opposite of an intro. Usually consists of something approximating "We'll be right back, after this."
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Post by: mparrish11 on September 12, 2005, 10:15:43 PM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Sep 12 2005, 07:49 PM\']It continually amazes me (and it shouldn't anymore) that the subgroup of our membership who have a freakin' cow whenever the least little thing is changed on a game show is also the subgroup who happens to think that WOF is the Second Coming as television goes.
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Finally, someone who agrees with me!
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Post by: davemackey on September 12, 2005, 10:34:30 PM
[quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Sep 12 2005, 09:41 PM\']That being said, the way they had a commercial outro following the bonus round, then immediately fade in with the post-mortem really caught me off guard, why not just have Vanna walk over to the contestant, or have Pat say bye (a la early syndie eps.) and cue fee plugs?

Is this going to be the norm, or was Wheel just strapped for time today? Not that I'm complaining, but it just looked like a REALLY cruddy edit.
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"Wheel" may have made the decision to reformat the commercial load after several shows were already in the can, hence the awkward transition near the end of the show. But now it seems like "Wheel" ends closer to 8:00 p.m.
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Post by: Strikerz04 on September 12, 2005, 11:37:50 PM
If you compare this to the 1995 intro...this is a little more bizarre than usual.

The pacing was weird, beyond weird. I just can't see the transition there, because I was anticipating Vanna walking up to Pat and Contestant and end it right there.

I hope this doesn't *last* for long because it just felt weird and rushed.
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Post by: Don Howard on September 13, 2005, 12:12:07 AM
[quote name=\'davemackey\' date=\'Sep 12 2005, 09:34 PM\']But now it seems like "Wheel" ends closer to 8:00 p.m.
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It ends closer to 7:30pm in my city. Back in the day, it was over by 11am.
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Post by: Steve McClellan on September 13, 2005, 02:04:38 AM
[quote name=\'WilliamPorygon\' date=\'Sep 12 2005, 06:43 PM\']Just wait until next season... the opening sequence will show all the folks at the retirement home abandoning their bingo game and racing their wheelchairs back to their rooms to catch Wheel.
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You may not even have to wait 'til next season....

The intro will change daily. :)
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Post by: Don Howard on September 13, 2005, 02:10:48 AM
[quote name=\'Steve McClellan\' date=\'Sep 13 2005, 01:04 AM\'][quote name=\'WilliamPorygon\' date=\'Sep 12 2005, 06:43 PM\']Just wait until next season... the opening sequence will show all the folks at the retirement home abandoning their bingo game and racing their wheelchairs back to their rooms to catch Wheel.
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You may not even have to wait 'til next season....
The intro will change daily. :)
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Oh, the rapture! I want details. E-mail me privately. I don't know if the others can handle it. Plus, we wouldn't want to spoil anything.
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Post by: Craig Karlberg on September 13, 2005, 04:31:33 AM
I thought the new opening was pretty weird.  Wonder what the next one looks like?

I'll admit, adding the idea of a Wheel Watcher's Club member winning the same car in the bonus round if that contestant won it would surely break up the nonotony of offering trips merely every other show to those members.  Hopefully, we'll see quite a few of those this season.

I didn't quite hear the sound effect for the "No Vowels Left" signal, but the sliding part was just as annoying as the pop-up version was.

I guess they've played about the same number of puzzles as they usually did last year, but that's because of all that talking going on from Pat reminding us of the new things this season.  Hopefully, they'll probably "get" to that so-called 11 puzzle average once the pacing gets a bit quicker.
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Post by: BrandonFG on September 13, 2005, 04:57:31 AM
[quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Sep 13 2005, 01:10 AM\']Oh, the rapture! I want details. E-mail me privately. I don't know if the others can handle it. Plus, we wouldn't want to spoil anything.
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Pat O'Brien drops his phone and booze to go watch Wheel.
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Post by: The Pyramids on September 13, 2005, 08:27:36 AM
[quote name=\'Craig Karlberg\' date=\'Sep 13 2005, 03:31 AM\']
I guess they've played about the same number of puzzles as they usually did last year, but that's because of all that talking going on from Pat reminding us of the new things this season.  Hopefully, they'll probably "get" to that so-called 11 puzzle average once the pacing gets a bit quicker.
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I can't imagine how they could pull that off short if giving up comercial time which will not happen. It would seem the ability of the contestants would be the main factor in determining how many puzzels can be done per show and that varies.
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Post by: Don Howard on September 13, 2005, 09:57:10 AM
[quote name=\'PaulD\' date=\'Sep 13 2005, 07:27 AM\']It would seem the ability of the contestants would be the main factor in determining how many puzzles can be done per show and that varies.
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I'm telling you---it's just a matter of time before they junk the wheel and it becomes Toss-Ups Of Fortune. The bonus wheel will stay but the other one will go to the landfill.
The title will stay the same, though, just as the Judge Parker serialized comic strip has retained its title even though Sam Driver has been hogging all the action for over 30 years.
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Post by: urbanpreppie05 on September 13, 2005, 01:49:38 PM
My 3 letters on the new open...


WTF?
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Post by: clemon79 on September 13, 2005, 01:53:07 PM
[quote name=\'urbanpreppie05\' date=\'Sep 13 2005, 10:49 AM\']WTF?
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It's a shame they spot you the T in the bonus round puzzle, 'cuz it would be funny as hell for someone to pick that as their three extra consonants. :)
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Post by: Don Howard on September 13, 2005, 02:22:34 PM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Sep 13 2005, 12:53 PM\'][quote name=\'urbanpreppie05\' date=\'Sep 13 2005, 10:49 AM\']WTF?
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It's a shame they spot you the T in the bonus round puzzle, 'cuz it would be funny as hell for someone to pick that as their three extra consonants. :)
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Yes. Since they've begun to specialize categories, this one could be INVISION BOARD QUESTION INITIALS.
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Post by: Steve McClellan on September 13, 2005, 03:01:47 PM
[quote name=\'Steve McClellan\' date=\'Sep 12 2005, 11:04 PM\']The intro will change daily. :)[/quote]
(Because quoting myself is just too darn fun...)

Actually, I should clarify. Openings will be repeated, but there are several of them, so we probably won't be seeing the same one two days in a row. My guess is that they did five and they'll repeat weekly.
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Post by: The Pyramids on September 13, 2005, 08:06:49 PM
[quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Sep 13 2005, 08:57 AM\'][quote name=\'PaulD\' date=\'Sep 13 2005, 07:27 AM\']It would seem the ability of the contestants would be the main factor in determining how many puzzles can be done per show and that varies.
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I'm telling you---it's just a matter of time before they junk the wheel and it becomes Toss-Ups Of Fortune. The bonus wheel will stay but the other one will go to the landfill.
The title will stay the same, though, just as the Judge Parker serialized comic strip has retained its title even though Sam Driver has been hogging all the action for over 30 years.
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You know if people were developing game shows now the toss-up rounds could be the basis for a new show.
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Post by: SplitSecond on September 13, 2005, 08:11:19 PM
[quote name=\'PaulD\' date=\'Sep 13 2005, 05:06 PM\']You know if people were developing game shows now the toss-up rounds could be the basis for a new show.
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That's terrific!  But I think it would only work if we juiced the stakes to something like $1,000,000.  And we'd need a veteran at the helm of the show.

Is Jim Lange available?
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Post by: bandit_bobby on September 13, 2005, 08:13:43 PM
After the bonus round ended on tonight's show, Pat threw it to Charlie to say something instead of saying "We'll be back". Also, on this week, like the last time they did this week (Wheel Around the World), they're showing clips of foreign versions of the show.
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Post by: zachhoran on September 13, 2005, 08:43:59 PM
Two other minor changes: the "house minimum" has increased from $500 to $1000 per round, and contestants who win nothing in the maingame are spotted $1000 instead of $500.
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Post by: Kevin Prather on September 13, 2005, 08:59:03 PM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Sep 13 2005, 10:53 AM\'][quote name=\'urbanpreppie05\' date=\'Sep 13 2005, 10:49 AM\']WTF?
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It's a shame they spot you the T in the bonus round puzzle, 'cuz it would be funny as hell for someone to pick that as their three extra consonants. :)
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Pat: Three consonants and a vowel.

Contestant: F...C...K...U.
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Post by: BrandonFG on September 13, 2005, 09:04:51 PM
[quote name=\'whoserman\' date=\'Sep 13 2005, 07:59 PM\']Pat: Three consonants and a vowel.

Contestant: F...C...K...U.
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Post by: clemon79 on September 13, 2005, 09:06:07 PM
[quote name=\'whoserman\' date=\'Sep 13 2005, 05:59 PM\']Pat: Three consonants and a vowel.

Contestant: F...C...K...U.
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I would personally DOUBLE the Malcolm Jackpot for anyone insane enough to throw away a WOF bonus round on that little stunt. :)
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Post by: JasonA1 on September 13, 2005, 09:21:14 PM
A contestat named Chad called for his letters in that order so his name would be on the screen...so you could be really dicey and do it like that...won't make tape, but hey, at least you tried.

-Jason
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Post by: LA the DJ on September 13, 2005, 09:21:33 PM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Sep 13 2005, 08:06 PM\'][quote name=\'whoserman\' date=\'Sep 13 2005, 05:59 PM\']Pat: Three consonants and a vowel.

Contestant: F...C...K...U.
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I would personally DOUBLE the Malcolm Jackpot for anyone insane enough to throw away a WOF bonus round on that little stunt. :)
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More incredible would be to pick that combination and still get the puzzle.
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Post by: Kevin Prather on September 13, 2005, 10:13:57 PM
[quote name=\'JasonA1\' date=\'Sep 13 2005, 06:21 PM\']...won't make tape, but hey, at least you tried.
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And if the FCC has their way, you will BE tried.
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Post by: Robert Hutchinson on September 13, 2005, 11:29:58 PM
[quote name=\'SplitSecond\' date=\'Sep 13 2005, 07:11 PM\'][quote name=\'PaulD\' date=\'Sep 13 2005, 05:06 PM\']You know if people were developing game shows now the toss-up rounds could be the basis for a new show.
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That's terrific!  But I think it would only work if we juiced the stakes to something like $1,000,000.  And we'd need a veteran at the helm of the show.

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That's crazy talk.

Just throw some pink and blue squares on the board and you're set. Oh, and there are no stoppers in any of these puzzles--all the letters are good. The category is BAD PUN--go, Vanna.
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Post by: Steve McClellan on September 14, 2005, 12:31:31 AM
[quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Sep 13 2005, 05:43 PM\']Two other minor changes: the "house minimum" has increased from $500 to $1000 per round, and contestants who win nothing in the maingame are spotted $1000 instead of $500.
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And one more change, that I'm surprised no one's mentioned yet. Woolery appears to have left the show (http://\"http://gameshow.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=8576\"), being replaced by a guy named Pat Sajak.
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Post by: uncamark on September 14, 2005, 12:16:27 PM
CONTESTANT:  F--C--K--U.

PAT:  Same to you, buddy--now pick three consonants and a vowel.  :)
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Post by: Ian Wallis on September 14, 2005, 05:50:09 PM
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CONTESTANT: F--C--K--U.

PAT: Same to you, buddy--now pick three consonants and a vowel. :)


Along the same lines, remember that "Caesar's Challenge" episode where, during the second bonus round when the letters were scrambling, the letters "S-H-I-T" appeared consecutively in a word?  Got a bit of a chuckle from Ahmad.
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Post by: Kevin Prather on September 14, 2005, 06:44:46 PM
And even though it's been disproven, there are still people who swear up and down that the Countdown letters once came up "W-A-N-K-M-E-O-F-F."
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Post by: Steve McClellan on September 14, 2005, 07:06:53 PM
[quote name=\'whoserman\' date=\'Sep 14 2005, 03:44 PM\']And even though it's been disproven,[/quote]
What do you mean, disproven? There's a picture (http://\"http://www.snopes.com/radiotv/tv/countdwn.htm\")! And if we see it on the internet, it must be true!
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Post by: TalkingHeadsFan on September 14, 2005, 07:12:35 PM
The intro is just...So horrid, words cannot begins to explain my hatred for it. Now if this was an alternate intro to the Simpsons, or Finders Keepers or something, understandable. But mixing a cheesy-ass cartoon with the hi-techiness of Wheel of Fortune? What were they thinking??!!

And is it just me, or are they editing spins less, thankfully?

Doug
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Post by: DJDustman on September 14, 2005, 07:35:38 PM
I must be the only one who still thoroughly enjoys Wheel.  Because it's still Wheel of Fortune, Pat and Vanna are still there and to me the show still has the same charm. Screw the animations and stuff, just watch it for what it is oooorrrrrrrrrr change the channel :).
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Post by: Kevin Prather on September 14, 2005, 08:19:41 PM
[quote name=\'Steve McClellan\' date=\'Sep 14 2005, 04:06 PM\'][quote name=\'whoserman\' date=\'Sep 14 2005, 03:44 PM\']And even though it's been disproven,[/quote]
What do you mean, disproven? There's a picture (http://\"http://www.snopes.com/radiotv/tv/countdwn.htm\")! And if we see it on the internet, it must be true!
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My God! I must be wrong! Common sense and logic be damned!
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Post by: Steve McClellan on September 14, 2005, 08:40:39 PM
[quote name=\'whoserman\' date=\'Sep 14 2005, 05:19 PM\']Common sense and logic be damned![/quote]
Those'll only get you into trouble, you know.... ;)
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Post by: StevensM on September 14, 2005, 08:45:36 PM
[quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' date=\'Sep 12 2005, 07:47 PM\']It's a short piece of animation showing a guy dropping everything to get ready to watch Wheel. "Wheel of Fortune--loved by bachelors and their dressed-up cats."
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Based on today's (Wednesday's) program, it looks like the opening animations will rotate or change.
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Post by: $100kPyramidfan on September 15, 2005, 01:02:37 AM
[quote name=\'TalkingHeadsFan\' date=\'Sep 14 2005, 07:12 PM\']The intro is just...So horrid, words cannot begins to explain my hatred for it. Now if this was an alternate intro to the Simpsons, or Finders Keepers or something, understandable. But mixing a cheesy-ass cartoon with the hi-techiness of Wheel of Fortune? What were they thinking??!!

Doug
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I agree, when I got a chance to see it the other night... the intro... I was like "oooooook.... what in the hell is this?!"
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Post by: catnap1972 on September 15, 2005, 07:31:54 PM
Are they intentionally doing something to the video in the last segment (bonus round)?  It looks like some kind of jerky MPEG effect.

EDIT: looks like WSBK has problems with their equipment as it's not limited to WoF.
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Post by: bandit_bobby on September 15, 2005, 08:32:34 PM
(Spoiler removed.  -DZ)
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Post by: BrandonFG on September 15, 2005, 08:45:49 PM
I would blame that on the writing staff more than anything. The puzzles haven't made sense in years.
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Post by: Steve McClellan on September 15, 2005, 08:59:41 PM
[quote name=\'bandit_bobby\' date=\'Sep 15 2005, 05:32 PM\']They're [CENSORED] for 4 this week,[/quote]
And, of course, spoilers are always appreciated on The Big Board....
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Post by: Robert Hutchinson on September 18, 2005, 08:08:35 PM
[quote name=\'TalkingHeadsFan\' date=\'Sep 14 2005, 06:12 PM\']And is it just me, or are they editing spins less, thankfully?[/quote]

Give it time--they only seem to edit spins when A) they're really running short on "normal" time by the time they get to the fourth round, or B) they try to squeeze in an extra speed-up round, but it lasts forever.

I mentioned it a while back, but they're even willing to edit out entire spin sequences that (they think) don't materially affect the game's progression. (All three players hitting a Lose a Turn in succession, for example.) But, of course, they don't pay close enough attention, and then uncalled letters start magically appearing on the board between spins.
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Post by: TimK2003 on September 18, 2005, 09:43:46 PM
[quote name=\'Chief-O\' date=\'Sep 12 2005, 07:21 PM\']I'd have something to say about the intro, but Lemon could say it better than I could.
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Actually, this looks like a job for Ben Stein...

[Ben Stein]  I'm so excited,
                   And I just can't hide it,
                   I'm about to lose control,
                   And I think I like it...Wow. [/BS]
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Post by: Dbacksfan12 on September 18, 2005, 09:48:41 PM
[quote name=\'TimK2003\' date=\'Sep 18 2005, 08:43 PM\'][Ben Stein]  I'm so excited,
                   And I just can't hide it,
                   I'm about to lose control,
                   And I think I like it...Wow. [/BS]
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Post by: GoofusKAC on September 20, 2005, 11:01:32 PM
[quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Sep 13 2005, 09:57 AM\'][quote name=\'PaulD\' date=\'Sep 13 2005, 07:27 AM\']It would seem the ability of the contestants would be the main factor in determining how many puzzles can be done per show and that varies.
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I used to live and breathe WOF and looked forward to every Labor Day for the new shows to start.

'93 or '94 was the beginning of the end for me, now with all the Toss-Ups to see who walks out first, who gets introduced first, who's allowed to breathe first, who gets to stare directly at Pat first, who gets to both touch the wheel AND spin it first - then once the show's half over and an actual ROUND starts (usually the Lean Pockets/Yahoo!/Kotex JACK-&^%$ING-POT round) the "we're running out of time" announcement gets made, then Pat takes the amount he lands on, adds $1000 to it, multiplies it by the square root of Vanna's hair color # for that particular taping day to determine what the consonants are worth.  Then inevitably the puzzle will be something obscure like "COMPUTERS ARE ELECTRONIC-TYPE DEVICES" and I just want to die.

Daytime dollar amounts notwithstanding, WOF had the best set, theme, and GAME from 89-91 when they first moved to CBS and the old falling-apart NBC set was replaced and rebuilt.  Today the puzzle board looks like the back wall at Best Buy, the wheel is such that you can rarely tell who's freaking turn it even is, and with that annoying video wall behind the contestants you might as well put 'em on couches and find out who's spouse is secretly in love with the family pet.

Now I've forgotten my point...oh well.
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Post by: BrandonFG on September 21, 2005, 05:23:05 PM
[quote name=\'GoofusKAC\' date=\'Sep 20 2005, 10:01 PM\']Now I've forgotten my point...oh well.
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That's OK, I understood it. I think you summed up why I barely watch the show.
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Post by: TimK2003 on September 21, 2005, 06:32:31 PM
[quote name=\'GoofusKAC\' date=\'Sep 20 2005, 10:01 PM\']...Now with all the Toss-Ups to see who walks out first, who gets introduced first, who's allowed to breathe first, who gets to stare directly at Pat first, who gets to both touch the wheel AND spin it first...
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But somewhere in this great land of ours, there are either people who:
a) bet money on the outcome of such ponderous questions, or
b) either drink or CHUG on such outcomes depending on which WoF Drinking Game they are playing.

And what the Hell Is "Tiki Time"?  Even DirecTV's WOF episode descriptions are getting into the act.
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Post by: Tony on September 22, 2005, 04:54:11 PM
Having seen a little of the new season and having read all of your responses to this thread, I am now more convinced than ever of my opinion that Wheel should be canceled to make room for a proper revival of The $100,000 Pyramid (preferably involving Sande Stewart, and preferably NOT involving Stephen Brown).
And I say this as someone (else) who used to live and breathe Wheel (when I was much younger and more stupid, of course;)).
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Post by: clemon79 on September 22, 2005, 04:56:19 PM
[quote name=\'Tony\' date=\'Sep 22 2005, 01:54 PM\']Having seen a little of the new season and having read all of your responses to this thread, I am now more convinced than ever of my opinion that Wheel should be canceled to make room for a proper revival of The $100,000 Pyramid (preferably involving Sande Stewart, and preferably NOT involving Stephen Brown).
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Well, yeah, but I'd can just about anything to see Pyramid back and done right. ;)
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Post by: MikeK on September 22, 2005, 05:20:18 PM
[quote name=\'Tony\' date=\'Sep 22 2005, 04:54 PM\']Having seen a little of the new season and having read all of your responses to this thread, I am now more convinced than ever of my opinion that Wheel should be canceled to make room for a proper revival of The $100,000 Pyramid (preferably involving Sande Stewart, and preferably NOT involving Stephen Brown).[/quote]
I vehemently disagree.  Even if the show doesn't interest you (and I concur in that regard; I'm very close to cancelling the TiVo season pass), losing what could be the second most popular game show would be nothing short of crippling to the genre.  Outside of Wheel, we have Jeopardy! (can't see it going away in the near future unless Trebek's replaced by Andy Dick), TPiR (who knows what'll happen when Barker retires or goes to the big studio in the sky), and Millionaire.  You, I and the hundreds of people who might see this post know that Wheel's not going anywhere, even if Pat admits that he eats babies in his spare time and if Vanna kills a kitten every time someone lands on a prize tag.

The show went from tolerable last year to presently sinking faster than the Titanic.  That's what Harry Friedman et al get for trying to reinvent the wheel every year.
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Post by: TLEberle on September 22, 2005, 07:00:24 PM
You're going to have to back that up.  Wheel hasn't been tolerable since I was in high school.  I still watched out of sympathy some times, but it was no longer a regular thing for me to watch.  And that's been about six years.
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Post by: zachhoran on September 22, 2005, 07:29:31 PM
[quote name=\'hmtriplecrown\' date=\'Sep 22 2005, 04:20 PM\'][quote name=\'Tony\' date=\'Sep 22 2005, 04:54 PM\']Having seen a little of the new season and having read all of your responses to this thread, I am now more convinced than ever of my opinion that Wheel should be canceled to make room for a proper revival of The $100,000 Pyramid (preferably involving Sande Stewart, and preferably NOT involving Stephen Brown).[/quote]
I vehemently disagree.  Even if the show doesn't interest you, losing what could be the second most popular game show would be nothing short of crippling to the genre.  Outside of Wheel, we have Jeopardy! , TPiR, and Millionaire.

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Add to that Feud, though it too is arguably a shadow of its Dawson/Combs self, and certainly nowhere near as popular as during the first Dawson era. Count Lingo and the other cable game shows if you want to.
Title: Wheel's New Season...
Post by: MikeK on September 22, 2005, 07:36:30 PM
[quote name=\'TLEberle\' date=\'Sep 22 2005, 07:00 PM\']You're going to have to back that up.  Wheel hasn't been tolerable since I was in high school.  I still watched out of sympathy some times, but it was no longer a regular thing for me to watch.  And that's been about six years.[/quote]
I never knew my opinion was wrong that I had to justify my actions.  It's my damn opinion, for heaven's sake.

Here are three fairly recent positive additions to Wheel:

1.  I think the Prize Puzzle/SPIN ID thing is a great gimmick to lure people to watch the show, even if the chance of you winning a prize on any given night is literally more than 1 in a million.
2.  I feel the Mystery Space has been a great addition, even though most contestants don't realize that risking a grand or two for a 50/50 shot at a $15,000 prize is a great proposition.
3.  I also like the bonus prize wheel, as it incorporates a key facet of the game into the bonus round, along with a potentially large payout.  Plus there's 1.5 MILLION COLORS OF LIGHT~!!!!!!1ONE  (Note to self:  Bed, Bath, and Beyond tonight.  Towels are on sale.)  Or is it 1.545 million colors this season, after inflation?

Those positive are negated by the wheel being littered with prize tags, the occasional bad players, very specific puzzle categories, ridiculously tough bonus puzzles (tough is good, too tough is not), and the huge video backdrop behind the players.  Thus, why I feel last season was tolerable.  Add in this season's changes (cheesy animated opens, even more prize tags, and the new layout of the locations of the commercial breaks) and the result, IMO, is a resounding <Karlberg>UGH!!!!!</Karlberg>

I'd ask you to say why Wheel was good six years ago, but I don't feel there's a need for you to give reasons why you believe your opinion is right.
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Post by: TLEberle on September 22, 2005, 07:41:08 PM
The reason I asked was because I didn't think of things like the Mystery Space (You're right, it's a great thing for the contestants).  I'll spot you the SPIN ID, and I agree that the bonus wheel is an improvement over the blind draw, though I still think the bonus puzzle is a throwaway.

I was going based on the fact that long ago, Wheel of Fortune was relatively quiet, exciting, and an interesting game.  Now, we have the Eleventy Quintillion Colors of Light,  three Gift Tags on the wheel, wheel values that are hopelessly skewed, contestants yelling to top each other, and a final segment that means the show ends at 7:25.

My intent was not to provoke, or to incite a riot, I only wanted to know why you enjoyed the show so much.  And it turns out you are correct.

(EDIT: To that end, I blame a poor choice of words.  Something like "I disagree, but I would like to hear your take on it" would have been much better than "Please to back that up.")  I apologize for the misunderstanding.)
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Post by: MikeK on September 22, 2005, 07:44:30 PM
[quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Sep 22 2005, 07:29 PM\']Add to that Feud, though it too is arguably a shadow of its Dawson/Combs self, and certainly nowhere near as popular as during the first Dawson era. Count Lingo and the other cable game shows if you want to.[/quote]
Just like Travis' opinion on Wheel nowadays, I refuse to acknowledge this incarnation of Feud as a strong show which is carrying the game show genre.  I know it's getting halfway decent ratings and it'll be around for at least a few more seasons.  I see that show as one giant clustermuck, from the set to the host to the questions.

Lingo?  After seeing about 10 of this season's eps., I wish someone would've put that show out of its misery.  Love the overall concept of the show, hate that the eye candy over the past two seasons have been dumber than a box of rocks, and most contestants aren't much smarter.  (Exceptions to that rule are Ben and Josh.  Hi guys!)

[quote name=\'TLEberle\' date=\'Sep 22 2005, 07:41 PM\']My intent was not to provoke, or to incite a riot, I only wanted to know why you enjoyed the show so much.  And it turns out you are correct.[/quote]
S'OK.  I've been under a great deal of stress lately.  Being out of the house 70+ hours/week and getting next to sleep nightly can do that to a person.

OBGS:  The teacher I'm working with said she'd "double the points on the next homework" in one of today's classes.  The class didn't hoot and holler.  However, I got a good chuckle out of it.  Darn you, Richard Karn.
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Post by: tvmitch on September 22, 2005, 08:17:14 PM
Tonight's episode of Wheel had 10 puzzles - 7 regulars and 3 toss-ups. And it was good, I think. Yeah, the puzzles were easier, but it was something different than "Well, it's round 5, so F1NAL Sp1N!!!!!!!1" (sorry, out of system now!)

Made for more interesting strategy, if you were on the show playing that way. If you know there will be a couple extra puzzles, maybe you play more conservative.

General note: They did *not* play a fourth toss-up after Round 6 Proper.
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Post by: Steve McClellan on September 23, 2005, 05:33:38 AM
[quote name=\'hmtriplecrown\' date=\'Sep 22 2005, 04:36 PM\']Add in this season's changes [...] even more prize tags,
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I mentioned that after being at the taping of the shows which should air next week. The extra tag has not made an appearance yet; it may just be for that week.
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Post by: Clay Zambo on September 23, 2005, 08:52:44 AM
[quote name=\'hmtriplecrown\' date=\'Sep 22 2005, 06:44 PM\']OBGS:  The teacher I'm working with said she'd "double the points on the next homework" in one of today's classes.  The class didn't hoot and holler.  However, I got a good chuckle out of it.  Darn you, Richard Karn.
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That being a math class, I'd say the teacher should only award the double points to a student who can multiply by two.