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Well, since I'm taping the second episode of the one-hour block due to the fact that I will be without GSN for somewhere around five years starting next week, I thought I would post my comments on how the show looks (BTW, there are no spoilers in this thread, so don't worry about reading on!).
I, for one, am glad the show is basically the same. The set looks very much like Season 3, and the theme music stayed the same as well. The only difference with the set is the walls are slightly brighter and the neon flashing circles are now these neon flashing curved sticks. I like the brighter color walls, personally; they do a nice job of making, well, everything else on the set look brighter as well.
Now, for my biggest shock of all: Shandi is actually a decent sidekick! She can keep up with Chuck's banter (and even manages to dish out some herself) while at the same time keeping abreast of the game around her. I always felt that Stacey could either do only banter or the game material and never both at the same time, so I'm glad Shandi can do both. And, yes, she definitely looks better than Stacey, too, IMO...:).
Another nice change: The rules discussion at the top of the show is gone, leaving more time for words in round 1. I'm surprised that it's completely gone, but, then again, this show is definitely one of those you can watch and start noticing the rules of right away. At least, that's my opinion.
Anyway, I'm rather impressed with the fact that everything is the same, there is more game material, and I think they finally found a co-host that will work well with Chuck and the game (Stacey worked well with Chuck, but not the game, IMO). Thanks GSN!
How about you? What are your thoughts?
Anthony
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[quote name=\'beatlefreak84\' date=\'Aug 1 2005, 04:42 PM\']Now, for my biggest shock of all: Shandi is actually a decent sidekick! She can keep up with Chuck's banter (and even manages to dish out some herself) while at the same time keeping abreast of the game around her.
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Wow, do I not agree with this.
The "banter" at the top of the show is ridiculous. Don't tell me about "what you did last night" when "last night" was a twenty-minute window between tapings. Further, acting like she's the one doling out the puzzles (as in "I'm gonna give you ladies an "F" to begin" just now...no, honey, the guy on the CG is givng it out, and you're Making Pretend) is still an insult to anyone halfway intelligent.
Yeah, she's plenty nice to look at, but she's still completely and totally unnecessary.
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I have to strongly disagree with the first poster. This 3rd season is the worst that I've seen of this show beyond the pilots from Holland. The music editing is crappy this season, along with for some reason complicating the most basic of think music cues. Not every set needs a giant color change every minute. The blue and red was much better. Shandi does less than Stacey does, but the thing is that she does not shut up. Yes, they got rid of the rule explanation in the main game in time for more words, but so much of the game is filled with mindless babble from Shandi that it barely does any good. They for some reason made the set and logo darker and that doesn't look good. This is a simple boring word guessing game, not a dark show. The set also looks gigantic now. The opening is extremely strange. The camera work this season isn't too good either. They do way too many close up shots. I honestly came in here expecting the most of the new season and I was let down. Most of what I say will probably sound trivial, but I am a critic. I over-investigate. They should have just cancelled Lingo and added two more teams to Extreme Dodgeball.
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Necessary? No; I agree with you there. I think Chuck could carry on the show just fine on his own; I've been saying this even when I first heard Stacey was the co-host way back when...:). Somehow, I knew that a comment on Shandi was going to come sooner or later...:).
But, since GSN wants us to have a sexy co-host, I'm glad they chose Shandi. And, BTW, I know that her "typing" the words and boards onto the screen is fake; what I meant by her "keeping abreast of the game" was that she seemed to know a lot more about what was going on with it than Stacey did. Stacey essentially read off cues from people backstage (not saying Shandi doesn't...) and only commented on illegal words or what numbers were good for "Lingo." I don't get this impression from Shandi, though; while I can't comment fully on her abilities due to the fact I've seen one episode with her, I think she definitely has the ability to go beyond this and offer comments on when teams are clearly pulling words out of their rear ends, for example. And her banter, even if slightly untrue (he he), is proof to me that she has the ability to be something more on the show than just eye candy.
Again, I don't think she's necessary for the show to be good, but I don't think her addition is necessarily bad for the show, either. That's just my opinion, though...:)
Anthony
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It's still Lingo, so that's the plus, they didn't make any serious game changes. I notice Shandi didn't annoy me as much as Stacey, but I still say a co-hostess is really not needed*.
*Yes, Zach, I know the 1987 version had one, mainly to comply with Canadian TV policy. Sit down.
Anyway, the one gripe I have is the set. Must they change the set, every damn season, esp. when a "season" is only 65 episodes? Minor modifications, fine, but every year has been a revamped set, yet they still can't get scoreboards on the podium. Hell, the gratuitous TV monitors behind Shandi could work. Granted, it won't keep me from watching, but it's just something I noticed.
Then again, I thought the set looks like it should be the console of the Starship Enterprise.
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Aug 1 2005, 07:12 PM\']
Anyway, the one gripe I have is the set. Must they change the set, every damn season, esp. when a "season" is only 65 episodes? Minor modifications, fine, but every year has been a revamped set, yet they still can't get scoreboards on the podium. Hell, the gratuitous TV monitors behind Shandi could work. Granted, it won't keep me from watching, but it's just something I noticed.
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I would guess (SPECULATION) that because the shows are taped so quickly, it's not kept in storage...since there was a long time between seasons 1&2, 2&3, and 3&4, they went out and built another set.... The new set, which does look a lot like the 3rd season, does have different specs, solid pieces that had to be recreated....
And, even though I don't like the opening banter (it's too forced... I can hear my Magid consultant now : "Get to the Damn Game Already!" ) , I do like her banter throughout the show with CW.... Much better than the brit.
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I like Shandi better. She has a warmer personality whereas Stacey was just too goody-good to be true.
Plus Chuck pretty much keeps his mitts off her...
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I thought it was a good change. I think Shandi was great and interacted much with the players instead of like Stacie. She did tend to talk a lot. But she had a great personality.
I also liked the think music this time. The think music sounds a tad bit different than season 3, even though the main music stays the same. The main round think music had key changes present. The bonus round music started out like the regular think cue, but then changed about a minute in the round to a less rhytmnic version of the main theme. Really neat!
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I don't mind the set change at all. Sure it looks brighter than Season 3 FWIW. A few modifications is enough to take notice on it.
Shandi looks AND sounds much more reasonable than Stacey I thought(though Stacey did bring some eye candy at times). Doing some banter with Chuck while keeping her nind on her work is OK. At least she knows what she's doing.
The rule explanation was dropped simply to allow for more gameplay signals to me that those who watched the show know what goes on gamewise. I didn't like the idea that Round 2 has a "shorter" lentgh than before thanks to all those commercials inbetween segments & all. At least the think music was slighty "modified" even though the main package is still around.
I'm glad they dropped that Harrah's vacation package upon a Lingo in the 1st pull of the bonus game & instead go with the $10K(wich is cut in half starting with the 2nd pull). Cash is always good to win on a game show.
Overall, not a bad start to Season 4. This will tie me over for 6 weeks untill J! & WOF start their new seasons in September.
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[quote name=\'Craig Karlberg\' date=\'Aug 2 2005, 03:19 AM\']Stacey did bring some eye candy at times.
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At times? When didn't she? I can't recall once while watching the game that's not just letters when Stacey didn't bring on the urge to lock the door and break out the baggies.
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[quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Aug 2 2005, 07:26 AM\'][quote name=\'Craig Karlberg\' date=\'Aug 2 2005, 03:19 AM\']Stacey did bring some eye candy at times.
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At times? When didn't she? I can't recall once while watching the game that's not just letters when Stacey didn't bring on the urge to lock the door and break out the baggies.
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{Average Invision poster} I don't get it. Why would you need baggies? You goin' shopping?
{ME} Yes, at Bed Bath and Beyond.
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I liked the debut ep. (Didn't know it was a double run)
I guess if they haven't added a score readout to each team's podium before now, I shouldn't have been hoping for one in S4.
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[quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Aug 2 2005, 05:26 AM\']At times? When didn't she? I can't recall once while watching the game that's not just letters when Stacey didn't bring on the urge to lock the door and break out the baggies.
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Okay, I TOTALLY just threw up in my mouth a little bit. :)
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What I like:
* The set. The update is quite nice. The bubble motif is gone!
* The music. The Bonus Lingo cut is my favorite, with the new think music right behind.
What I don't like:
* Nothing special in the bowls. I guess I've been watching Rafferty Sharks too often.
* Shandy. She's not as good looking as Stacey. She really doesn't have much to say during the show (Neither did Stacey). I hope every story she tells at the top has
* The contestants. I don't know who predicted this. Ottinger? Lemon? Well, it was some old person that didn't like the fact that they wanted contestants younger than 40. :) Well, I have to admit that the show feels artificially young. Also, the practice of picking people by how they act rather than how they play doesn't seem to work as well for Lingo as it does for Price is Right. I'm not thrilled when people run out of time...on the first guess! We're not expecting you to get it right on the first try. Any five letter word beginning with the given letter will suffice! I don't care for the way they have been using Bonus Letters, usually before making a guess at all and running out about a minute in.
* Speaking of artificially young...what with the blonde highlights? I didn't know that Ryan Seacrest's older brother was hosting the show.
* The payout. I think that the $5,000 is fine. Standard game show fare. However, I think that the First Ball Lingo is rare enough (two or three times a season) that it warrants a top prize of a car.
* The schedule: Twice a day again. It'll be in it's fourth repeat cycle by Christmas. Hoo-freakin'-ray.
I don't know how many people feel this way, but I think that the show has gotten worse as time has gone by.
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[quote name=\'CarShark\' date=\'Aug 2 2005, 07:45 PM\']I don't know how many people feel this way, but I think that the show has gotten worse as time has gone by.
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DO they still have the question mark wild card balls in round two? I heard no reference to them during the first show on either Mon or Tue.
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[quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Aug 2 2005, 08:42 PM\']DO they still have the question mark wild card balls in round two? I heard no reference to them during the first show on either Mon or Tue.
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Yes; Shandi was even shown bouncing Chuck's wild ball around if I remember correctly.
Hehe...
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[quote name=\'johnnyd1788\' date=\'Aug 3 2005, 03:26 PM\']Yes; Shandi was even shown bouncing Chuck's wild ball around if I remember correctly.
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<Insert joke about Stacey manipulating Chuck's balls here.>
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[quote name=\'CarShark\' date=\'Aug 2 2005, 05:45 PM\']What I like:
* The set. ...
* The music. ...
What I don't like:
* Nothing special in the bowls.
* Shandy.
* The contestants.
* Speaking of artificially young...what with the blonde highlights?
* The payout.
* The schedule
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Doesn't anybody watch for the actual gameplay? To me, the glaring problem with Lingo has always been that it is not a "team" game. They pretend to alternate guesses between the teammates when usually, it's either
a) one player does all the work, guessing his own words and whispering words to the teammate, or
b) the teammates look blankly at each other, not sure whose "turn" it is.
This ought to be easy enough to fix. Why they haven't by now, I will never understand.
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[quote name=\'CarShark\' date=\'Aug 2 2005, 07:45 PM\']What I don't like:
* Nothing special in the bowls. I guess I've been watching Rafferty Sharks too often.
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What do you suggest placing in the bowls that wouldn't muck the game up? A tossed salad, perhaps?
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[quote name=\'Modor\' date=\'Aug 3 2005, 11:26 PM\'][quote name=\'CarShark\' date=\'Aug 2 2005, 07:45 PM\']What I don't like:
* Nothing special in the bowls. I guess I've been watching Rafferty Sharks too often.
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What do you suggest placing in the bowls that wouldn't muck the game up? A tossed salad, perhaps?
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Given that the original had a cash jackpot and a nice trip....perhaps this is what he had in mind.
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I also noticed that Chuck's trademark "2 and 2" now lasts 3:30.
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I liked everything new this week. The set looks great as well. I can also tell you that Florrisant Missouri (where Shandi and a contestant were from) is a suburb of Saint Louis Missouri.
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Does anyone have any screengrabs or videos of the new season up yet? :)
I lost GSN six months ago to the digital tier and this is the first time since that I really wish I still had it!
The eternal..."a co-host isn't necessary" debate will always go on, but a co-host never bothered me. They are no more useful/useless than Vanna.
Long live Lingo! Hope I can catch an episode of the new season soon. I'm intrigued.
ITSBRY
itsbry@juno.com
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My complaint, and it's a minor one...sometimes Shandi doesn't speak up enough...she comes off sometimes a touch too soft on the air. I like her banter with Chuck, and I love the new open "And, I'm Chuck...let's play Lingo." If you'll excuse me, I gotta get highlights like Chuck W.
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[quote name=\'ITSBRY\' date=\'Aug 7 2005, 08:50 AM\']The eternal..."a co-host isn't necessary" debate will always go on, but a co-host never bothered me. They are no more useful/useless than Vanna.
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Who, after the game board automated, was mammary-glands-on-a-bull useless, so apparently you completely see my point.
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I also noticed that Chuck's trademark "2 and 2" now lasts 3:30.
Maybe he should start saying "3 and 3" - at least it's closer!
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[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' date=\'Aug 9 2005, 10:05 AM\']Maybe he should start saying "3 and 3" - at least it's closer!
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Well, add another 30 seconds, and "2 and 2" can mean 2+2. :)
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Has anyone won the $10K bonus for Lingo yet?
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Has anyone won the $10K bonus for Lingo yet?
Yes, a couple of weeks ago.
EDIT: August 3rd, 7 PM episode.
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Aug 23 2005, 08:19 PM\']
Has anyone won the $10K bonus for Lingo yet?
Yes, a couple of weeks ago.
EDIT: August 3rd, 7 PM episode.
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Who won it? I want to see what happens when they win.
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[quote name=\'hotsauce\' date=\'Aug 23 2005, 11:48 PM\']Who won it? I want to see what happens when they win.
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A $10K win on Lingo isn't greeted with much more fanfare than a $5K win. Just CHuck getting a smidge more excited and a little more canned applause is heard(Lingo currently has no studio audience)
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[quote name=\'hotsauce\' date=\'Aug 23 2005, 11:48 PM\'][quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Aug 23 2005, 08:19 PM\']
Has anyone won the $10K bonus for Lingo yet?
Yes, a couple of weeks ago.
EDIT: August 3rd, 7 PM episode.
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Who won it? I want to see what happens when they win.
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Sara and Ryan...keep your eyes peeled. (http://\"http://gameshow.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=8567\") It was the fifth ep. of the season, if GSN is even using an airing order.
BTW, I notice you're new, but news about Lingo and other shows will be on the Show Summaries board, just in case another $10,000 win. :-)
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BTW, it's happened twice this season.
And BTW, is it just me, or have I been seeing more invalid word guesses now and then?
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Who won the 2nd $10K and which episode was that? Thanks.
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[quote name=\'hotsauce\' date=\'Aug 23 2005, 11:48 PM\']
Who won the $10K on Bonus Lingo? I want to see what happens when they win.
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Lai and Aileen won the $10K on last Friday's 7PM EST airing.
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Just wondering ... what's the number needed in Bonus Lingo to guarantee a $5,000 win -- or does it depend on the arrangement of the 12 covered numbers?
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[quote name=\'SteveRep\' date=\'Aug 31 2005, 09:23 PM\']Just wondering ... what's the number needed in Bonus Lingo to guarantee a $5,000 win -- or does it depend on the arrangement of the 12 covered numbers?
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If at least one space on the two long diagonals is covered, which it always is, there'd be a guaranteed win by the eighth ball picked. It does in general depend on the arrangement of the 12 covered numbers. I've never seen a team lose after having earned more than five balls.
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[quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Aug 31 2005, 09:27 PM\']
If at least one space on the two long diagonals is covered, which it always is, there'd be a guaranteed win by the eighth ball picked. It does in general depend on the arrangement of the 12 covered numbers. I've never seen a team lose after having earned more than five balls.
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And this is why the bonus game, IMHO, is flawed. It's too easy. I say, drop it to 75 seconds and up the prize ante. Less wins, but bigger drama, and close to same payout at the end of the season.
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[quote name=\'tvwxman\' date=\'Aug 31 2005, 10:14 PM\']And this is why the bonus game, IMHO, is flawed. It's too easy. I say, drop it to 75 seconds and up the prize ante. Less wins, but bigger drama, and close to same payout at the end of the season.
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Why not drop it to 60 seconds? In a nod to the original show, make the top payout $16,000 (yes, I do know it was actually $64,000 when they actually got paid), and use $8,000 for the split. Or you can go $20000/$10000....same damn thing.
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[quote name=\'tvwxman\' date=\'Aug 31 2005, 08:14 PM\']And this is why the bonus game, IMHO, is flawed. It's too easy. I say, drop it to 75 seconds and up the prize ante. Less wins, but bigger drama, and close to same payout at the end of the season.
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I would prefer to see the board from the first 20 shows used, where a team would need a minimum of two balls to connect a row. I wonder what kind of prize budget they're working with if they can only give away $5,000 and $10,000.
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[quote name=\'TLEberle\' date=\'Aug 31 2005, 11:36 PM\']I would prefer to see the board from the first 20 shows used, where a team would need a minimum of two balls to connect a row. I wonder what kind of prize budget they're working with if they can only give away $5,000 and $10,000.
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I've only seen 2 or 3 new eps., but does Croton or Borders still offer their consolation prizes ("Lingo" watch, gift card)?
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[quote name=\'sshuffield70\' date=\'Aug 31 2005, 10:37 PM\']In a nod to the original show, make the top payout $16,000 (yes, I do know it was actually $64,000 when they actually got paid), and use $8,000 for the split.
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They actually got PAID?!?!? I didn't know that....
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Aug 31 2005, 11:58 PM\'][quote name=\'TLEberle\' date=\'Aug 31 2005, 11:36 PM\']I would prefer to see the board from the first 20 shows used, where a team would need a minimum of two balls to connect a row. I wonder what kind of prize budget they're working with if they can only give away $5,000 and $10,000.
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I've only seen 2 or 3 new eps., but does Croton or Borders still offer their consolation prizes ("Lingo" watch, gift card)?
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THere are no fee plugs on this year's shows. Last season's shows had no prize plugs other than Harrah's(first ball Lingo vacation) or Suzuki(provided TofC car). It would save further on the prize budget if they used the board from the first 20 shows. They could offer the $10K for a two ball Lingo.
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I got a suggestion for the Bonus Lingo board: Add a red ball. Just one. For those who complain how the bonus gets anticlimatic after a team gets five (or more) words in the first half, this adds tension. You could be a shoe-in for a win, then draw that pesky Red Ball.
Or you could make the words in the first half harder. Over at PYLP (sorry for the plug, if there was one), they use six-letter words as opposed to five, similar to that GSN Lingo contest they're plugging. Makes for less anticlimatic games as six-letter words are harder to come up with than five.
...or you could do both, but that should be only if the budget is low and we're taping from Chuck Woolery's garage.
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[quote name=\'TonicBH\' date=\'Sep 1 2005, 01:25 PM\']I got a suggestion for the Bonus Lingo board: Add a red ball. Just one. For those who complain how the bonus gets anticlimatic after a team gets five (or more) words in the first half, this adds tension. You could be a shoe-in for a win, then draw that pesky Red Ball.[/quote]
Would that then trigger discussion of one ? ball to counter the stopper -- with the stipulation that a ? on the first pull does not win the $10K. The team can cover any other number.
Right now, the chance of winning $10K is 7.7 percent (1/13). Adding the red ball lowers that to 7.1 (1/14). That's not a bad idea.
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[quote name=\'TonicBH\' date=\'Sep 1 2005, 10:25 AM\']I got a suggestion for the Bonus Lingo board: Add a red ball. Just one. For those who complain how the bonus gets anticlimatic after a team gets five (or more) words in the first half, this adds tension. [/quote] Wow. I didn't think it would be possible to make the bonus game worse, but there you go. If you get ten words in the first half, the $5,000 should be a foregone conclusion. I still like the original board setup.
You could be a shoe-in for a win, then draw that pesky Red Ball.
Yeah, that's a complete and total hack. Take away time in the first half, put up fewer covered numbers on the board, anything but a red ball.
Here's another way to look at it: does anyone complain when the "Big Bet" card on Card Sharks turns out to be a two or an Ace? No, we're glad for their good fortune. We don't wish an 8 on someone, just for there to be a manufactured climax.
[quote name=\'SteveRep\' date=\'Sep 1 2005, 10:41 AM\']Would that then trigger discussion of one ? ball to counter the stopper -- with the stipulation that a ? on the first pull does not win the $10K. The team can cover any other number.[/quote]If you need an exception to the rule, chuck the rule.
Right now, the chance of winning $10K is 7.7 percent (1/13). Adding the red ball lowers that to 7.1 (1/14). That's not a bad idea.
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Sure it is. Instead of giving the team a free run at $5,000, and an outside shot at $10,000, you're making it possible for a team that cleaned up in the first half to lose on account of nothing more than an unlucky pull. Not on only solving one or two words. A red ball.
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[quote name=\'TLEberle\' date=\'Sep 1 2005, 03:54 PM\']Sure it is. Instead of giving the team a free run at $5,000, and an outside shot at $10,000, you're making it possible for a team that cleaned up in the first half to lose on account of nothing more than an unlucky pull. Not on only solving one or two words. A red ball.
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I read my post and didn't make one thing clear. In my thinking, the red ball is NOT a total loss of the bonus round, just a loss of that pull and the penalty is that no number gets covered.
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I dunno if this is true all of the time, but I have noticed the show is picking their bonus words better the last few times I tuned in. That's all they need to do. Amp the difficulty just a bit to lower the average number solved - a decent team can wrangle enough for it to be pretty possible, but not foul up so bad it's a slim chance...
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[quote name=\'SteveRep\' date=\'Sep 1 2005, 02:03 PM\']I read my post and didn't make one thing clear. In my thinking, the red ball is NOT a total loss of the bonus round, just a loss of that pull and the penalty is that no number gets covered.
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OK, I didn't think of that. Even so, it's still a hack; you're only putting off the inevitable. With ten draws, red ball or no, there is still a good chance (is it 100%) that you'll cover a line. It doesn't solve the problem.
For that matter, I don't think the problem can be solved when you have a set period of time for the final act, but we can only work with what we have.
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With ten draws, red ball or no, there is still a good chance (is it 100%) that you'll cover a line.
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A lingo will be gotten by the ninth covered number no matter what the pattern of the 12 covered balls is. Ergo, even with a red ball in there, the lingo will be made by the tenth draw. AFAIK, they've always covered at least one number on one of the diagonals at the outset, making the maximum number of draws needed to get a lingo less than that.
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Zach:
If you meant the middle number is covered at the outset, it's possible to have 20 numbers covered, including the middle number, and not have a bingo:
0****
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The *'s are the filled numbers; the 0's are empties.
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[quote name=\'SteveRep\' date=\'Sep 1 2005, 08:27 PM\']That's what you could have with 12 covered and 8 pulls. Pretty much locks that 9=money.
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Pretty much? Considering that would leave 4 empty spots on a 5x5 grid, yeah, it doesn't take much of a mental leap to figure that one out.
...back with more Masters Of The Obvious after this!
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THere are no fee plugs on this year's shows.
I've also noticed they're squeezing back the closing credits this year. As far as I can remember, this is the first time they've done this with a GSN original series.
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Given the pattern Fedya showed, there's no rotation of that pattern which allows it to match five empty spaces in the current bonus round setup.
There's still yet another pattern which DOES require a ninth pull to make the Lingo:
OOOO. .O...
O.OOO O.OOO
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OOO.O O.O.O
OO.OO O....
Given the bonus board configuration on the right (which is always used in one rotation/reflection or another), you might need nine draws if the first eight leave the pattern on the left. I don't see another possible pattern to do that. My calculator says that's a 1287 to 1 longshot. Conversely, that means that 1286 times out of 1287, they'll have won by the 8th pull.
The problem with the bonus round is that great teams always win, decent teams almost always win, and bad teams still sometimes win. I would be up for a return to the season 1 pattern... if you can't get TWO in two whole minutes, WITH the bonus letters, you don't deserve any chance to win.
THAT'S IT... it's those bonus letters! Those turn two/three/four time-consuming words into two/three/four quick words. Make them work for the money! If you're going to have them, give them just one per Lingo. Or just one.
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I know someone who, when they play, use 6 letter words as an added challenge.
If the producers want to make it that simple, why not just give a team a couple grand for winning the game, and skip the bonus round? Straddle the eps...and have more commercial time. How could they lose?
That said, what was the last show that didn't utilize a bonus round (not counting shows currently on the air in first run)?
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[quote name=\'Modor\' date=\'Sep 2 2005, 10:52 AM\']That said, what was the last show that didn't utilize a bonus round (not counting shows currently on the air in first run)?
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Prolly the rehash of Three's A Crowd, huh? Or Whammy. Are they still making new Street Smarts? (If so, gawd why?)
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Sep 2 2005, 01:30 PM\'][quote name=\'Modor\' date=\'Sep 2 2005, 10:52 AM\']That said, what was the last show that didn't utilize a bonus round (not counting shows currently on the air in first run)?
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Prolly the rehash of Three's A Crowd, huh? Or Whammy. Are they still making new Street Smarts? (If so, gawd why?)
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"Street Smarts" is dead. You could only dodge the bullet so many times.
And GSN original credits have been squeezed back for some time now, going back before the rebrand. It's more noticeable because this season on "Lingo" the contractual full-screen credits are placed over Chuck and Shandi's wrapup rather than as the music and applause start up. All of the GSN originals now have contractual full-screen credits at the top of the roll--however, it still seems to me unusual that GSN squeezes back the logos, since I thought those were contractual, as well.
(For the record, the only GSN show now outside B&W Overnight where the credits air as executed is "Kenny vs. Spenny," since the kicker scene plays out during the credits, with the crawl on the right-hand side and the action on the left-hand side. I'm still flabbergated that they squeeze back on "Street Smarts," considering the outtakes that play under the credits.)
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Well, I actually caught a couple of episodes of the latest season. Incredibly, I find the new co-host actually makes me long for the old one. And I *hated* Stacey. Yeah, she was totally superfluous, but at least she realised it. This new one seems to think she's some sort of vital cog in the proceedings, and is constantly adding unneeded discussions, and spends more time talking about inane things with Chuck than in playing the game.
My wife and I faithfully watched the first seasons. We watched only a few episodes last season, when absolutely nothing else was on tv.
We won't watch another episode this year.
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Shandi is delightful. I think you should give her another chance, that is, if your wife will let you. :)
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[quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Sep 2 2005, 01:38 PM\'](For the record, the only GSN show now outside B&W Overnight where the credits air as executed is "Kenny vs. Spenny," since the kicker scene plays out during the credits, with the crawl on the right-hand side and the action on the left-hand side. I'm still flabbergated that they squeeze back on "Street Smarts," considering the outtakes that play under the credits.)
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Whoopi-led SQUARES had also run unscathed (although with the changeover to H2 effective 9/3/05 I'm not sure that's still the case).
Doug
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[quote name=\'SRIV94\' date=\'Sep 4 2005, 12:45 AM\'][quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Sep 2 2005, 01:38 PM\'](For the record, the only GSN show now outside B&W Overnight where the credits air as executed is "Kenny vs. Spenny," since the kicker scene plays out during the credits, with the crawl on the right-hand side and the action on the left-hand side. I'm still flabbergated that they squeeze back on "Street Smarts," considering the outtakes that play under the credits.)
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Whoopi-led SQUARES had also run unscathed (although with the changeover to H2 effective 9/3/05 I'm not sure that's still the case).
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No crunches on yesterday's episode.
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[quote name=\'cmjb13\' date=\'Sep 4 2005, 05:53 AM\']No crunches on yesterday's episode.
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And I did look at today's--none there either.
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[quote name=\'SRIV94\' date=\'Sep 4 2005, 10:14 AM\']And I did look at today's--none there either.
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But there were 20 sit ups.