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Title: "The Men of GSN"....
Post by: aaron sica on April 02, 2005, 09:44:51 AM
During some of the promos during the credit crunching of Card Sharks at 9am (that is *NOT* a bash at GSN, I don't know what else to call it!), the one promo had women on their lounge chairs sighing over "Richard", and "Chuck"......And then some quick clips of shows like Feud and Love Connection....Then it said "The men of GSN", weekdays 9am-3pm....

Always nice when classics get a little plug..

EDIT:
Commercial came on again.

"I saw Gene again yesterday, it was good."
"Babs, how are you and Alex doing?"
"He shows up every day, right on time. Reliable. I like that in a man."
"Oh and Deb, you still have a thing for Chuck?"
"Oh yeah, Richard too, actually."
"Who doesn't have a thing for Richard?"

Then they all chuckle and sigh.

"Richard, Alex, Chuck..the men from GSN, on the all-new daytime lineup. Weekdays 9 to 3, on GSN"
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Post by: The Pyramids on April 02, 2005, 10:18:12 AM
I'll have my eye out for it.
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Post by: Don Howard on April 02, 2005, 10:29:29 AM
[quote name=\'PaulD\' date=\'Apr 2 2005, 10:18 AM\']I'll have my eye out for it.
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You do that.
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Post by: sshuffield70 on April 02, 2005, 11:20:00 AM
[quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Apr 2 2005, 09:29 AM\'][quote name=\'PaulD\' date=\'Apr 2 2005, 10:18 AM\']I'll have my eye out for it.
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You do that.
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Hopefully, his eye is for the ladies.... ;)
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Post by: xibit777 on April 02, 2005, 03:49:48 PM
It's strange because Alex and Chuck were already on before the schedule change.  lol

They should have put something about 100,000 Pyramid, Rafferty CS, and the Passwords coming on the station.  Those are by far the biggest changes schedule wise.  Everything else has been on the channel in a different slot for a while.
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Post by: tyshaun1 on April 02, 2005, 05:21:35 PM
[quote name=\'xibit777\' date=\'Apr 2 2005, 03:49 PM\']It's strange because Alex and Chuck were already on before the schedule change.  lol

They should have put something about 100,000 Pyramid, Rafferty CS, and the Passwords coming on the station.  Those are by far the biggest changes schedule wise.  Everything else has been on the channel in a different slot for a while.
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I'm sorry, but you've just GOTTA find something to complain about, don't you? Some of these shows haven't been on in years, yet you're complaining about a 30-sec. ad?

Tyshaun
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Post by: tvwxman on April 02, 2005, 06:19:48 PM
[quote name=\'xibit777\' date=\'Apr 2 2005, 03:49 PM\']It's strange because Alex and Chuck were already on before the schedule change.  lol

They should have put something about 100,000 Pyramid, Rafferty CS, and the Passwords coming on the station.  Those are by far the biggest changes schedule wise.  Everything else has been on the channel in a different slot for a while.
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Yeah, cause Bill Rafferty and Bert Convy are name brands. Women EVERYWHERE have heard of THEM.
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Post by: ilb4ever2000 on April 02, 2005, 10:58:46 PM
[quote name=\'tvwxman\' date=\'Apr 2 2005, 06:19 PM\']Yeah, cause Bill Rafferty and Bert Convy are name brands. Women EVERYWHERE have heard of THEM.
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I see your point about Rafferty, but Convy was once a known celebrity.
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Post by: Dbacksfan12 on April 02, 2005, 11:40:09 PM
[quote name=\'ilb4ever2000\' date=\'Apr 2 2005, 10:58 PM\']I see your point about Rafferty, but Convy was once a known celebrity.
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And when would that have been? When he hosted 3rd Degree?
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Post by: Don Howard on April 03, 2005, 12:21:06 AM
[quote name=\'Modor\' date=\'Apr 2 2005, 11:40 PM\'][quote name=\'ilb4ever2000\' date=\'Apr 2 2005, 10:58 PM\']I see your point about Rafferty, but Convy was once a known celebrity.
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And when would that have been? When he hosted 3rd Degree?
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His stint on The Late Summer/Early Fall Bert Convy Variety Show did it for me. And who could forget his dramatic turn on The Untouchables? Not to mention The Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders. You think people really watched that teleflick for Jane Seymour and Ellen Bry?
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Post by: aaron sica on April 03, 2005, 10:04:00 AM
[quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Apr 3 2005, 12:21 AM\']
His stint on The Late Summer/Early Fall Bert Convy Variety Show did it for me. And who could forget his dramatic turn on The Untouchables? Not to mention The Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders. You think people really watched that teleflick for Jane Seymour and Ellen Bry?
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I don't know, Don, for me it was "It's not Easy". . Simply a sitcom that with Bert at the helm should have had the lifespan that such shows as"Cheers" and "M*A*S*H" did. :)
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Post by: Don Howard on April 03, 2005, 10:12:37 AM
[quote name=\'aaron sica\' date=\'Apr 3 2005, 09:04 AM\'][quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Apr 3 2005, 12:21 AM\']
His stint on The Late Summer/Early Fall Bert Convy Variety Show did it for me. And who could forget his dramatic turn on The Untouchables? Not to mention The Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders. You think people really watched that teleflick for Jane Seymour and Ellen Bry?
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I don't know, Don, for me it was "It's not Easy". . Simply a sitcom that with Bert at the helm should have had the lifespan that such shows as"Cheers" and "M*A*S*H" did. :)
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So true the words you speak this first day of Daylight Saving (not Savings) Time for 2005. Certainly, Pat O'Brien is nothing more than the Bert Convy of the 21st Century.
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Post by: tyshaun1 on April 03, 2005, 10:38:04 AM
[quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Apr 3 2005, 09:12 AM\']So true the words you speak this first day of Daylight Saving (not Savings) Time for 2005. Certainly, Pat O'Brien is nothing more than the Bert Convy of the 21st Century.
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Except for the drugs, alcohol, and groping, anyway. No one knows how to be Pat O'Brien quite like Pat O'Brien.

Tyshaun
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Post by: Don Howard on April 03, 2005, 10:43:52 AM
[quote name=\'tyshaun1\' date=\'Apr 3 2005, 09:38 AM\'][quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Apr 3 2005, 09:12 AM\']So true the words you speak this first day of Daylight Saving (not Savings) Time for 2005. Certainly, Pat O'Brien is nothing more than the Bert Convy of the 21st Century.
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Except for the drugs, alcohol, and groping, anyway. No one knows how to be Pat O'Brien quite like Pat O'Brien.
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And he shall answer for his sins.
Back to Romeo Convy now, that perm is to die for.
Now consider. All of those Allen Ludden episodes that GSN could've played last weekend for the Password marathon. Not shown. The same for that good number of Tom Kennedy Password Plus shows. Not shown. GSN recognizes the greatness of The Bert. There will be other honors. And I shall watch for them.
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Post by: xibit777 on April 03, 2005, 11:46:32 AM
Isn't this a commercial for the shows?  Not the people who host them.   The point is to get as many people interested as they can in the new schedule.   The best way to do this is to advertise the upcoming NEW shows coming on.  Who really cares that MG or FF is going to be shown an additional time a day.  No one cares that Love Connection is still on in the mornings.  So what is the point of the commercial?    Yes you can sit back, enjoy the shows, and think the commercials don't matter, but in the end the ratings determine what is on the channel.

Maybe people would care if they saw shows coming back that haven't been seen in forever in some cases.  100k Pyramid which has been gone for almost a year.  Or Rafferty's CS.  Or the Passwords.  Or TTTT.

But no... instead they spend their time advertising the *new lineup* with MG, FF, and Love Connection clips.   Brilliant.
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Post by: JMFabiano on April 03, 2005, 01:15:48 PM
[quote name=\'xibit777\' date=\'Apr 3 2005, 10:46 AM\']Isn't this a commercial for the shows?  Not the people who host them.   The point is to get as many people interested as they can in the new schedule.   The best way to do this is to advertise the upcoming NEW shows coming on.  Who really cares that MG or FF is going to be shown an additional time a day.  No one cares that Love Connection is still on in the mornings.  So what is the point of the commercial?    Yes you can sit back, enjoy the shows, and think the commercials don't matter, but in the end the ratings determine what is on the channel.

Maybe people would care if they saw shows coming back that haven't been seen in forever in some cases.  100k Pyramid which has been gone for almost a year.  Or Rafferty's CS.  Or the Passwords.  Or TTTT.

But no... instead they spend their time advertising the *new lineup* with MG, FF, and Love Connection clips.   Brilliant.
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On the other hand, though, maybe they are trying to sell the lineup with the stuff that the casual viewer already knows, hoping they'll see the rest of the lineup along with it and that it gets over with them.  Realistically, there are more of "them" than "us," and "they" probably wouldn't cream as much over Bill Rafferty and Password references as we would.  While I wish for more consideration for us GS smarks, I've gotta accept that the old GSN is long extinct, and that I'd be best off taking whatever they will give me.  

BTW, I don't think GSN's classic promos have been just about the shows for the longest time.  There's always been some silly gimmick for most of them in recent years.

Some side questions...

The credit crunches were mentioned in passing before.  I haven't watched GSN regularly for a long time...only starting to little by little given tomorrow's changes.  So I wonder...you think they do this for more network ad time, and thusly, to lessen the speed-ups?  Do they still do this as frequently?  I noticed Segment One of today's Blockbusters being sped up, but on other shows I've recently seen, they seem toned down or nonexistant.  

Second has to do with the return of $100KP.  Between last night's marathon being '80s NG's (the norm for quite some time) and someone noting that they thought 3'saC was still in place, I wonder again about the limited timeframes of most of the Sony properties, both now and in recent times.  Did we ever find out for sure if there was some kind of falling out between Sony and GSN?  Or if the money was such that GSN can now only get select segments of even the Sony library?
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Post by: tvwxman on April 03, 2005, 03:44:55 PM
[quote name=\'xibit777\' date=\'Apr 3 2005, 10:46 AM\']Isn't this a commercial for the shows?  Not the people who host them.   The point is to get as many people interested as they can in the new schedule.   The best way to do this is to advertise the upcoming NEW shows coming on.  Who really cares that MG or FF is going to be shown an additional time a day.  No one cares that Love Connection is still on in the mornings.  So what is the point of the commercial?    Yes you can sit back, enjoy the shows, and think the commercials don't matter, but in the end the ratings determine what is on the channel.

Maybe people would care if they saw shows coming back that haven't been seen in forever in some cases.  100k Pyramid which has been gone for almost a year.  Or Rafferty's CS.  Or the Passwords.  Or TTTT.

But no... instead they spend their time advertising the *new lineup* with MG, FF, and Love Connection clips.   Brilliant.
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Do you honestly think the general GSN viewer knows that Card Sharks with Bill Rafferty has not been on the air in many years? That 100K Pyramid hasn't seen the light of day in 12 months?

C'mon. Think. Please?

They're promoting what the masses want, with things that the masses can identify with. Hersheys doesn't come up with new ad campains touting it's new use of Partially Hydrogenated Vegetable Oil.... It promotes it's Reeses...sure, it's been around for years....but at least you've heard of the Peanut Butter cups, right?
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Post by: uncamark on April 04, 2005, 04:47:43 PM
[quote name=\'JMFabiano\' date=\'Apr 3 2005, 12:15 PM\']The credit crunches were mentioned in passing before.  I haven't watched GSN regularly for a long time...only starting to little by little given tomorrow's changes.  So I wonder...you think they do this for more network ad time, and thusly, to lessen the speed-ups?  Do they still do this as frequently?  I noticed Segment One of today's Blockbusters being sped up, but on other shows I've recently seen, they seem toned down or nonexistant. 
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They do the credit squeezebacks for one reason and one reason only--to try to keep the viewer from hitting the remote button for maybe 15 more seconds by catching their eye with a promo.  That's the main reason behind all split screens and credit squeezebacks, since they already know that a number of viewers are surfing away during commercial breaks.  (That's also the reason for the promo snipe graphics, too.)

As for time compression, I suspect that by the time we're getting to Bill Rafferty's stint on "Blockbusters," the amount of program time had already started to shrink and that there's simply less of a need for GSN to do time compression, in their view, than on some 70s and early 80s entries.