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Sources have said that Sony Pictures Television has canceled "Pat Croce: Movin' In" and "Life & Style".
The two shows' season-to-date ratings COMBINED were lower than what Sony averaged with "Pyramid" last year.
Brian
Don RUCKLES?
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Since Brian, as usual, has declined to provide a source, here's a link to the story...
http://www.mediaweek.com/mw/news/recent_di...t_id=1000856769 (http://\"http://www.mediaweek.com/mw/news/recent_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000856769\")
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[quote name=\'brianhenke\' date=\'Mar 29 2005, 09:16 PM\']Sources have said that Sony Pictures Television has canceled "Pat Croce: Movin' In" and "Life & Style".
The two shows' season-to-date ratings COMBINED were lower than what Sony averaged with "Pyramid" last year.
Brian
Don RUCKLES?
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Umm, yeah. That's great.
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[quote name=\'dzinkin\' date=\'Mar 29 2005, 09:35 PM\']Since Brian, as usual, has declined to provide a source, here's a link to the story...
http://www.mediaweek.com/mw/news/recent_di...t_id=1000856769 (http://\"http://www.mediaweek.com/mw/news/recent_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000856769\")
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Another one:
The Futon Critic (http://\"http://www.thefutoncritic.com/cgi/gofuton.cgi?action=newswire&id=6862\")
Brian
Poland is the nation directly south of Canada?
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David,
Brian could have done worse than not providing a link. He could have simply cut and paste a whole article's worth of copyrighted material. ;-)
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[quote name=\'Fedya\' date=\'Mar 29 2005, 11:11 PM\']David,
Brian could have done worse than not providing a link. He could have simply cut and paste a whole article's worth of copyrighted material. ;-)
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Shhh! Don't give him ideas! ;-)
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[quote name=\'brianhenke\' date=\'Mar 29 2005, 09:16 PM\']Sources have said that Sony Pictures Television has canceled "Pat Croce: Movin' In" and "Life & Style".
The two shows' season-to-date ratings COMBINED were lower than what Sony averaged with "Pyramid" last year.[snapback]79850[/snapback]
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Heck, Pyramid doubled their combined rating! If Fox's Friday night lineup is haunted by the curse of Chuck Woolery, then Sony must live with the curse of Donny Osmond. Now Marc Berman says Sony's upcoming talker with Robin Quivers is up in the air. On top of the above two, Jane Pauley's show failed, Larry Elder's show is not expected back, and Good Day Live is already gone, so Sony is best off giving the red light to this money pit.
Hey Sony, we told you so!
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On top of everything else, gossip says that Kimora Lee Simmons was supposedly difficult to work with and chronically late or absent from tapings, adding the crowning touch to a misbegotten project.
Meanwhile, it is my obligation to point out that "Pyramid" was a pale imitation of the original (and we don't need to hash out why again). It still would've been better to give it another chance than to blow it on two shows that probably cost more to produce then "Pyramid" (hell, "Life & Style" by itself probably had a higher budget).
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Had I known "Life & Style" was actually "The Jules Asner Show," I would have watched.
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[quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Mar 30 2005, 03:33 PM\']On top of everything else, gossip says that Kimora Lee Simmons was supposedly difficult to work with and chronically late or absent from tapings, adding the crowning touch to a misbegotten project.
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And having dealt with the woman, I can attest to the fact that she's one of the worst people I have ever met. So I'm not exactly feeling sorry for her (although being married to Russell Simmons and having Baby Phat, I don't think she's feeling sorry for her).
Tyshaun
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Boy, oh boy. I have to contain my urge to laugh here.
I'm surprised Pat Croce's show made it to THIS point. I had it pinned for cancellation before January...it was that bad! I saw two episodes, and that was more than enough.
As for Life & Style...usually, when a talk show gets a bad timeslot in the New York market, it's usually a bad sign (Caroline Rhea, call your office). When the show doesn't belong on TV in the first place, well...that's another story.
How's the crow taste, Sony?
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[quote name=\'PYLdude\' date=\'Mar 30 2005, 08:57 PM\']
How's the crow taste, Sony?
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They'd be better off doing another go at Dating and Newlywed Games than what they tried this season. Not that that's saying much.
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This just makes me wonder...what is Sony going to do now? They cancelled a show with decent ratings and bad demos for a couple of shows with (hopefully) decent demos and bad ratings. Do they suck it up and try to put Pyramid back on? Is that even an option now? There aren't any syndie game shows coming down the pike, but talk shows seem to be in the down part of its cycle. What's left? I don't think people could stand another court show. Frankly, I don't know how the market is supporting seven shows now (Judge Judy, Judge Joe Brown, The People's Court, Judge Mathis, Divorce Court, Judge Hatchett, Texas Justice).
I wonder if this might be the time to put Russian Roulette into the mix. They know that it can get a decent audience from it's run on GSN. Competition is down. Maybe if they stick it with Pyramid and it's loyal audience they could have something. The only thing that might worry them would be the budget. RR gave away more money than any other GSN Original of the time, by far.
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[quote name=\'CarShark\' date=\'Mar 30 2005, 09:21 PM\']
I don't know how the market is supporting seven shows now (Judge Judy, Judge Joe Brown, The People's Court, Judge Mathis, Divorce Court, Judge Hatchett, Texas Justice).
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That's two or three more traditional game shows than will be in syndication next Fall(depending on whether Street Smarts dodges another bullet and gets a sixth season, which ain't likely)
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BTW, Pat Croce is moving in AGAIN tomorrow with a game show host, TV geek!
Charles
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I wouldn't mind seeing Hollywood Showdown get a crack in syndication. It'd make the syndicator and local stations happy since all weeks would be self-contained. Bring Todd Newton back as host of course. And do you suppose that show's announcer would be interested in reprising his role?
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[quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Mar 30 2005, 10:12 PM\']I wouldn't mind seeing Hollywood Showdown get a crack in syndication. It'd make the syndicator and local stations happy since all weeks would be self-contained. Bring Todd Newton back as host of course. And do you suppose that show's announcer would be interested in reprising his role?
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Good question, I wonder what Burton Richardson *is* doing these days....He announced it, didn't he??
(Just kidding, Randy!!!)
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If there is demand from station managers, daytime game shows could be back. I don't think that demand is there. The vacated hours will be more than likely filled with Martha Stewart and upgraded talkers.
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[quote name=\'CarShark\' date=\'Mar 30 2005, 09:21 PM\']This just makes me wonder...what is Sony going to do now? They cancelled a show with decent ratings and bad demos for a couple of shows with (hopefully) decent demos and bad ratings. Do they suck it up and try to put Pyramid back on? Is that even an option now?
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Too late. The TV convention NATPE was in January....often by then deals are already in place for the upcoming fall...a few more deals made when the bulk of the freshmen crop get their cancelation notices.... It's not to say that Pyramid couldn't be announced, but at this point, they'd put up for January, and that would be a go only if this falls new shows crash and burn REALLY quickly.
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[quote name=\'PYLdude\' date=\'Mar 30 2005, 08:57 PM\']Boy, oh boy. I have to contain my urge to laugh here.
I'm surprised Pat Croce's show made it to THIS point. I had it pinned for cancellation before January...it was that bad! I saw two episodes, and that was more than enough.
As for Life & Style...usually, when a talk show gets a bad timeslot in the New York market, it's usually a bad sign (Caroline Rhea, call your office). When the show doesn't belong on TV in the first place, well...that's another story.
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And by January, hadn't WPIX dropped it, leaving WLIW as its only New York outlet (the first time since "ElimiDate" season one that a syndie show was forced to use WLIW as its New York station)? When your "New York" station's the one that most people in Manhattan can only get on cable, that's not a good sign.
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And by January, hadn't WPIX dropped it, leaving WLIW as its only New York outlet (the first time since "ElimiDate" season one that a syndie show was forced to use WLIW as its New York station)? When your "New York" station's the one that most people in Manhattan can only get on cable, that's not a good sign.
I assume you mean WLNY (TV-55), right? WLIW (Ch. 21) is the local PBS station here on LI, and I don't think they've gotten THAT lowbrow. :-)
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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[quote name=\'ChuckNet\' date=\'Mar 31 2005, 04:13 PM\']
And by January, hadn't WPIX dropped it, leaving WLIW as its only New York outlet (the first time since "ElimiDate" season one that a syndie show was forced to use WLIW as its New York station)? When your "New York" station's the one that most people in Manhattan can only get on cable, that's not a good sign.
I assume you mean WLNY (TV-55), right? WLIW (Ch. 21) is the local PBS station here on LI, and I don't think they've gotten THAT lowbrow. :-)
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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I can only imagine..."You're watching WLIW-21, member supported public television...and the new home for Trading Spouses and reruns of the original 3's A Crowd."
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[quote name=\'ChuckNet\' date=\'Mar 31 2005, 04:13 PM\']
And by January, hadn't WPIX dropped it, leaving WLIW as its only New York outlet (the first time since "ElimiDate" season one that a syndie show was forced to use WLIW as its New York station)? When your "New York" station's the one that most people in Manhattan can only get on cable, that's not a good sign.
I assume you mean WLNY (TV-55), right? WLIW (Ch. 21) is the local PBS station here on LI, and I don't think they've gotten THAT lowbrow. :-)
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. At least I didn't say "WLNG," which could've brought up game shows with lots of old PAMS jingles and remotes at the drop of a hat.
(For those of you not in the know, WLNG is this radio station in Sag Harbor, New York, that's somewhat of an anachronism--they have an ultrabroad playlist where the Beatles and Shania will be played back-to-back and you are guaranteed to hear a song you haven't heard in years, if ever. They also seem to be doing remotes from their sponsors all the time and the sort of lost pet announcements that you expect from small town radio--and it's all punctuated by heavy reverb and lots of ancient PAMS jingles [most resung by Ken R.], all in mono--on an FM station! However, when Arbitron recently rated their end of Long Island for the first time, they were in the top 3 in total households--whod'a thunk?)
Of course, they have a web site and they do stream:
http://www.wlng.com/ (http://\"http://www.wlng.com/\")
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[quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Apr 1 2005, 01:24 PM\']Yeah, yeah, yeah. At least I didn't say "WLNG," which could've brought up game shows with lots of old PAMS jingles and remotes at the drop of a hat.
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Not too far fetched. You could hear PAMS stuff on TV if you were in the right place. One of their samplers has the Series 26 "You're On Your Mark" jingle sung on behalf of Dallas TV station WFAA!
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Yep, as a LI radio guy, I'm quite familar w/WLNG...their mobile broadcasting unit occasionally shows up at major events around eastern LI, and amazingly enough, the station I work for has the calls of WLVG, though we go by the moniker "Love 96.1".
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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[quote name=\'davemackey\' date=\'Apr 1 2005, 02:34 PM\']You could hear PAMS stuff on TV if you were in the right place. One of their samplers has the Series 26 "You're On Your Mark" jingle sung on behalf of Dallas TV station WFAA!
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I've got that whole WFAA-TV package (which was specifically for Ron Chapman's "Sump'n Else" show); my other favorite PAMS TV jingles are a set for WVTV in Milwaukee ("Milwaukee's own good-looking 18!") and some really cool instrumental beds for CKY-TV in Winnipeg.
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I've got that whole WFAA-TV package (which was specifically for Ron Chapman's "Sump'n Else" show);
Chapman finally hangs it up in June after 45 years in Dallas.
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Speaking of WFAA and retirees, there was a guy who did the weather for the station, and his trademark was always wearing a bow-tie. I think his name was Troy something. WEHT him?
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Apr 2 2005, 12:22 PM\']Speaking of WFAA and retirees, there was a guy who did the weather for the station, and his trademark was always wearing a bow-tie. I think his name was Troy something. WEHT him?
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Troy Dungan. Still there, according to WFAA.com.
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Dungan....still there.....and still not a meteorologist. 4, 5, and 11 can run rings around him and his weather department.