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I direct your attention to Beverly's site for the news.
http://www.tvgameshows.net (http://\"http://www.tvgameshows.net\")
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This is great!! We have the Password hour back, and I've never even seem Bill Rafferty in action before!! Man, this is amazing.
Ben
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Took 'em 55 weeks to figure it out, but bully for them to swallow their crow and bring on the classics. I feel like calling it the Game Show Network again.
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For those of us that refuse to go to Steve Beverly's website, is there a link elsewhere showing the changes to the lineup?
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[quote name=\'wtstudios8383\' date=\'Feb 23 2005, 01:17 AM\']I direct your attention to Beverly's site for the news.
http://www.tvgameshows.net (http://\"http://www.tvgameshows.net\")
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I have 1 word....BRAVO!!!!!!
Charles
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For those of you who don't visit said site on principle:
Weekdays:
9:00 Match Game '7x
9:30 To Tell the Truth '90
10:00 Family Feud (Dawson)
10:30 Blockbusters (Bill Cullen)
11:00 Password Plus (no word on whether Ludden or Kennedy)
11:30 The $100,000 Pyramid
12:00 Jeopardy!
12:30 Newlywed Game
1:00 & 1:30 Love Connection
2:00 Super Password
2:30 Card Sharks (Rafferty)
Post-3:00 and GSN Weekends haven't been announced yet
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HOLY FRIGGIN' COW! Yeah, I like this move alot.
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I now open the betting pool to when we get one of these complaints:
They started with the premiere of Password Plus..AGAIN! This is the 10th time I've seen thie episode
They showed a 1987 episode of SP! I've never seen the 1985 ones
The credits are crunched on these great classics. I'll suffer now, because I can't see a 25-year old box of Macaroni and Cheese
The Blockbusters episodes should be Rafferty too, damn it
I'll throw $2.00 in that we get one on the first day of the new schedule.
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This is great news from GSN. I'm very pleased! Thanks GSN!
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[quote name=\'Modor\' date=\'Feb 23 2005, 04:43 AM\']I now open the betting pool to when we get one of these complaints:
They started with the premiere of Password Plus..AGAIN! This is the 10th time I've seen thie episode
They showed a 1987 episode of SP! I've never seen the 1985 ones
I'll throw $2.00 in that we get one on the first day of the new schedule.
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I'd be very suprised if P+ or SP aren't started from the beginning. I may be wrong, but I think most, if not all, of the times that those 2 shows were pulled then brought back, they started from the beginning.
I can recall the last run of P+ they got to the episodes with Cullen and Ludden's return, but pulled it right before they got to the Kennedy episodes. Although they did show some episodes during Breakfast with the stars.
I think the betting pool will be how long will those 2 stay on the air on a 5 day a week schedule? (I hope it's a long time)
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I dunno. Its so so close to April 1st for the release of the new schedule and we all know Beverly's track record...
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for P+, a good starting point might well be Ludden's last real week, then the 4 weeks of Cullen and so on...I think all of us want to watch Ludden in action as well as Cullen and TK.
As for Super Password, I'd really hope they would pick it up somewhere in the middle of the run. I recall they've shown the premiere quite a few times over.
Note they're pulling all G/T stuff from the vault, not library product or b-rate stuff, but Grade A game show reruns. (Okay, Rafferty CS!? Sure...its B quality, but hey, we haven't seen it in 5 or 6 years!)
TTTT '90 will wear thin and fast, though. Let's hope that one goes away pretty damn quick.
But more Dawson Feud? C'mon, let's get something else out there. (although they may well run Dawson Syndie Feud might just be what they'll do)
At least its not GAS' overdoing it with Double Dare 2k and forgetting there were other shows ever produced.
I'm with the posters who'd love to see the Winkler years of Squares again. They're still timely and a zillion times better than the first 4 years in my book.
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I am very pleased with the announcement. We now get to see Blockbusters daily! Super Password and Password + are always welcome now matter where they start. These are great shows and deserve to be seen daily. I have never seen Rafferty's version of Card Sharks, so I can't wait to see that. I am glad that the 100k Pyramid is coming back, which I hope that they start with season 1 instead of the same episodes over and over again from the latter 2 seasons. I am so excited, I can't wait. I will be disappointed to see credit crunches, but hey we got our shows back! Way to go GSN!!!
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[quote name=\'wtstudios8383\' date=\'Feb 23 2005, 01:17 AM\']I direct your attention to Beverly's site for the news.
http://www.tvgameshows.net (http://\"http://www.tvgameshows.net\")
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I'll believe it more if/when Adlink shows the supposed April changes on its schedule. Check Adlink in a couple of weeks.
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Phenomenal news. Absolutely Phenomenal.
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love it, love it.... LOVE IT!!! The first *good* schedule change I have seen since I got GSN about a year and a half ago. MG 90 is gone, but honestly it got old pretty fast. It really was nice to see it for the first time ever though.
I'd take Dawson Feud over Star Search and following crud anyday. It's not like FF is that overplayed... it's on once a day.
And the fact that they're bringing 100k Pyramid back is cool too. Could they have possibly leased some other years of it? I'm reallllly hoping they don't bring back those same 3 years that they've been showing since I got GSN.
The Prof is right though, good times are ahead. Star Search is dead.
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[quote name=\'Modor\' date=\'Feb 23 2005, 04:43 AM\']I now open the betting pool to when we get one of these complaints:
The Blockbusters episodes should be Rafferty too, damn it
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You never know...they might put those on weekends in place of the original (for that matter, does the Perf even know for sure that the weekday eps will be Cullen shows?)
The schedule is a definite improvement if it comes true.
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[quote name=\'xibit777\' date=\'Feb 23 2005, 09:32 AM\']
And the fact that they're bringing 100k Pyramid back is cool too. Could they have possibly leased some other years of it? I'm reallllly hoping they don't bring back those same 3 years that they've been showing since I got GSN.
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They showed the last two seasons of $100K from mid-2000 through June 2004. The thing is, there are only three seasons of $100K(unless they picked up the Davidson run, which I doubt very much). The first season, save for a couple of tourneys seen on a 12/31/03 $100K Pyramid marathon, hasn't been seen in a while.
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[quote name=\'Modor\' date=\'Feb 23 2005, 04:43 AM\']I now open the betting pool to when we get one of these complaints:
They started with the premiere of Password Plus..AGAIN! This is the 10th time I've seen thie episode
They showed a 1987 episode of SP! I've never seen the 1985 ones
The credits are crunched on these great classics. I'll suffer now, because I can't see a 25-year old box of Macaroni and Cheese
The Blockbusters episodes should be Rafferty too, damn it
I'll throw $2.00 in that we get one on the first day of the new schedule.
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Mark, I was thinking the same thing. One poster over at GSN boards (won't name names, but you lurk over there too, I think) is already complaining because of something with the 9am MG...Same guy who had a coronary because he missed an ep or two of MG because of a Dog Eat Dog marathon.
Anyway, here's a complaint you may see too:
But it's the same season of $100,000 Pyramid that they've been running over and over again!!!
Add that one to the pool.
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[quote name=\'cmjb13\' date=\'Feb 23 2005, 06:48 AM\']
I'd be very suprised if P+ or SP aren't started from the beginning. I may be wrong, but I think most, if not all, of the times that those 2 shows were pulled then brought back, they started from the beginning.
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There was a one month run of P+ and SP in September 2002 that consisted of four weeks of 1986 SP episodes(September 1986 IIRC), and one month of Kennedy P+ shows(late 1980, including the Perry/Morris/Norton-Taylor/Walker celeb week) airing weekday mornings from 10-11AM EST. There's still a year worth of Super Password(the final year), and a good chunk of Kennedy P+ never shown on GSN, correct? They were early in Kennedy's run of P+ and in early 1988 on SP when the Dark Period started in 10/97.
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Now, if only we could lose some of that "Love Connection" time...
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[quote name=\'Clay Zambo\' date=\'Feb 23 2005, 10:35 AM\']Now, if only we could lose some of that "Love Connection" time...
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It will get more airplay than Newlywed Game will on the supposed April schedule. WHo'd have thunk it?
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Well, were I king we'd lose "Newlywed," too, but I wouldn't expect that to happen.
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[quote name=\'aaron sica\' date=\'Feb 23 2005, 10:18 AM\']Anyway, here's a complaint you may see too:
But it's the same season of $100,000 Pyramid that they've been running over and over again!!!
Add that one to the pool.
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Here's another to add to the pool: "Why didn't they include <insert name of favorite/rare/"vault" show> in the line up?"
It does seem a bit suspicious to have a too-good-to-be-true schedule announced for the beginning of April, though. Oh well... we'll have confirmation soon enough.
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Great, Looks like I'll be getting more blank tapes, although I've been to the library a lot and negated to watch GSN, but I do like the schedule.
It's time to CELEBRATE!!!
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This is excellent news. Hopefully it is true, and the shows can actually last more than 2 months. ;-)
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[quote name=\'aaron sica\' date=\'Feb 23 2005, 10:18 AM\'][quote name=\'Modor\' date=\'Feb 23 2005, 04:43 AM\']I now open the betting pool to when we get one of these complaints:
They started with the premiere of Password Plus..AGAIN! This is the 10th time I've seen thie episode
They showed a 1987 episode of SP! I've never seen the 1985 ones
The credits are crunched on these great classics. I'll suffer now, because I can't see a 25-year old box of Macaroni and Cheese
The Blockbusters episodes should be Rafferty too, damn it
I'll throw $2.00 in that we get one on the first day of the new schedule.
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Mark, I was thinking the same thing. One poster over at GSN boards (won't name names, but you lurk over there too, I think) is already complaining because of something with the 9am MG...Same guy who had a coronary because he missed an ep or two of MG because of a Dog Eat Dog marathon.
Anyway, here's a complaint you may see too:
But it's the same season of $100,000 Pyramid that they've been running over and over again!!!
Add that one to the pool.
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Here's some more:
But they're already showing Blockbusters on weekends!
Why can't they get rid of Love Connection already?
Another Match Game? Couldn't they have put LMAD back on instead?
Plus there will probably be at least a few people complaining about Friend or Foe? and Whammy! being taken off the schedule. (Speaking of which, I wonder if Whammy! still going to be on at noon on weekends, or will they replace that with something else?)
Anyway, GSN gets major kudos for this schedule. *I* have no reason to complain.
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Has GSN itself announced this schedule yet? Is it buried on their site somewhere, was there a press release?
Using Stosh as a mouthpiece yet again is thoroughly unprofessional, since his credibility is dubious to so many people.
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If it wasn't true, wouldn't the new sked have started on April 1, rather than April 4?
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There's still a year worth of Super Password(the final year), and a good chunk of Kennedy P+ never shown on GSN, correct? They were early in Kennedy's run of P+ and in early 1988 on SP when the Dark Period started in 10/97.
You're correct. Most of the Kennedy run has never been seen on GSN, and certain parts of "Super Password" haven't seen the light of day either.
I have a list of everything GSN has aired here:
http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/St...n/2357/gsn.html (http://\"http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/Station/2357/gsn.html\")
It's about a year old, but as far as "classic" series go, not much has changed in that department during that time. Soon I'm going to try to update it with the "reality" stuff that GSN has aired recently, but if anyone can see anything I'm missing, I'd be happy to hear from you.
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I will get confirmation from GSN this afternoon, for those, like me, who do not totally believe Beverly. But if this is true, excellent.
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[quote name=\'Seth Thrasher\' date=\'Feb 23 2005, 12:42 AM\']For those of you who don't visit said site on principle:
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Me, I broke principle and went to look. And I am one happy camper. My Tivo shall be ALIVE with the sounds of GSN. :) (well, okay, Rafferty, Pyramid, and TTTT anyhow. ;))
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[quote name=\'Pyramid80\' date=\'Feb 23 2005, 05:51 AM\']I will be disappointed to see credit crunches
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Feb 23 2005, 11:58 AM\'][quote name=\'Pyramid80\' date=\'Feb 23 2005, 05:51 AM\']I will be disappointed to see credit crunches
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Damn, how did I do that? I am not one to bitch. I guess I hadn't had my Dr. Pepper yet!
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Feb 23 2005, 12:11 PM\']If it wasn't true, wouldn't the new sked have started on April 1, rather than April 4?
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No, because April 1 is a Friday. The next day would be Monday, 4/4. I still don't believe it, though.
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[quote name=\'Brakus\' date=\'Feb 23 2005, 03:28 AM\']For those of us that refuse to go to Steve Beverly's website, is there a link elsewhere showing the changes to the lineup?[/quote]
You know, it's not like the guy is killing puppies, or putting asbestos in school lunches. In the time it took you to post this question, you could have been there and back again, and not a one of us would have been the wiser.
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I hate to be a skeptic... but I'll believe it when I actually see it.
And... like others here... just because it's posted on Bev's site doesn't mean that I'm going to believe it. A deaf/mute albino could tell me... and I'd believe him (or her) before I believe Bev.
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The number of times Steve has been flat-out wrong about factual information is tiny compared to the absurd number of times people here have said they refuse to believe him.
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As an optimist, I'm going to say "woot" and just feel really suprised and excited. Especially with the Super Password, Rafferty Card Sharks, and expanding Blockbusters...
As a realist, I need to see solid proof. I've heard in the past we got some bogus info, so I need verifiable proof...
-Dave
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[quote name=\'wtstudios8383\' date=\'Feb 23 2005, 01:17 AM\']I direct your attention to Beverly's site for the news.
http://www.tvgameshows.net (http://\"http://www.tvgameshows.net\")
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Yeah! I just learned of this from a friend of mine.
GSN's slowly being brought back from the brink! Now if only they'd re-add 1970s-80s repeats of Pyramid and selections from the Barry-Enright library...
Interesting that the 1986-87 syndie nighttime edition of Card Sharks with Bill Raffery's being added.
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Isn't GSN going Interactive 24/7 by the end of March? This would be great to play along with all of these shows and maybe the whole interactive game play probably helped the reason why these shows are coming back anyways.
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My guess--if it is true--is that (a) they reupped for the G-T library, so they better get their money's worth and (b) the numbers aren't going to get any worse than they are now, so let's make the hardcore fans happy and focus our energies on the prime time schedule.
No complaints here--even if I'm working and can't see it in the first place.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Feb 23 2005, 03:19 PM\']The number of times Steve has been flat-out wrong about factual information is tiny compared to the absurd number of times people here have said they refuse to believe him.
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I can't think of a time the man's been wrong about a GSN schedule change, at least recently, and I wish people would kinda back off.
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[quote name=\'ilb4ever2000\' date=\'Feb 23 2005, 06:22 PM\'][quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Feb 23 2005, 03:19 PM\']The number of times Steve has been flat-out wrong about factual information is tiny compared to the absurd number of times people here have said they refuse to believe him.
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I can't think of a time the man's been wrong about a GSN schedule change, at least recently, and I wish people would kinda back off.
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I agree with him!!
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Do you think the Dawson airing might be from 1994?
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No. The Prof knows exactly what years are going to be shown, and you can bet he would have made a huge deal if FF 94 was leased. Because Feud wasn't even mentioned in his article (just in the time slot), it's almost certainly a regular ole Dawson episode that we're used to.
Good enough for me. Anything is better than that awful Star Search.
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[quote name=\'ilb4ever2000\' date=\'Feb 23 2005, 04:22 PM\']I can't think of a time the man's been wrong about a GSN schedule change, at least recently, and I wish people would kinda back off.[/quote]
I just wish GSN would make their own announcements, instead of leaking things through unofficial channels. It is, and has always been, very tacky.
Schedule changes, special presentations, etc. never get announced officially by GSN - they just sort of "happen". For example, Monday's afternoon and evening schedule was all messed up - either for President's Day, the Dream Derby final show, or both. But there was never any announcement, not even a commercial.
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I totally agree on that. But it looks like the moderator over there has some inside info because she posted that weekend mornings and afternoons were going to stay the same. And that evenings were going to get a mix-up.
GSN has never been great at all with communication. Funny when it has its own boards. You would think they could make a read-only folder where they could announce upcoming things...
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I started off as "cautiously hopeful" this morning, but seeing that most of the regulars here aren't a bit skeptical, it looks like there isn't a reason for me to be either.
[quote name=\'melman1\' date=\'Feb 23 2005, 07:04 PM\']I just wish GSN would make their own announcements, instead of leaking things through unofficial channels. It is, and has always been, very tacky.
Schedule changes, special presentations, etc. never get announced officially by GSN - they just sort of "happen". For example, Monday's afternoon and evening schedule was all messed up - either for President's Day, the Dream Derby final show, or both. But there was never any announcement, not even a commercial.
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Never understood this. All that webspace for games and forums, and hardly a slice for network announcements.
Imagine my surprise, turning on GSN Monday afternoon, only to find some topless woman throwing a football on Dog Eat Dog. What was that all about, anyway? (The DED marathon -- not the woman. Well, that too...)
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Overall, in the grand scheme of things, this is a welcome change for me. My main comments on it are such:
1) The only thing that would make this even better is if the Feud and/or one ep of Love Connection was subbed out in place of Press Your Luck (getting it back to a daily schedule, yay!), Tic Tac Dough or Joker's Wild (getting them back on the schedule at all!). But overall, this isn't too bad. I can live with this easy.
2) What would be interesting, in following up a previous post, is if they start Password Plus with where Tom Kennedy started. I would love to see that, because we have NEVER gotten to see the infamous French episode since GSN's early days, and it happens so early in Kennedy's run. This would be a golden shot to get it in and finally let everyone get a crystal copy of it.
3) I am convinced that this schedule change is a matter of fate for me. Follow my lead, if you will...
Back in December of 2003, I was stuck with nothing to do. Having just left my teaching job, I was stuck at home with GSN and job searches online. Also, things were just starting on the addition on my house. Ultimately, one week before GSN announced its new look and schedule we loathed, the construction company took down my Dish Network. So, the moment that the change was announced, Andrea and I jumped and promptly cancelled our Dish subscription.
Flash forward 3 months. When the addition was done and we could move back in, we decided to get IO Digital Cable from Cablevision here in Jersey. No GSN, but Nick GAS wasn't bad then. It was something different.
But now... our year-long deal with Cablevision is up, and so is our monthly bill. So we're talking about possibly getting DirectTV like my folks have... and guess what happens over at GSN...
What do you think? A bad schedule change in timing with my DN getting taken down... think this good change in the midst of my IO bill increase is a sign, too?
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I knew that someday, I would be glad that I upgraded my DirecTiVo's capacity to 214 hours. :-)
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[quote name=\'Sonic Whammy\' date=\'Feb 23 2005, 08:54 PM\']But now... our year-long deal with Cablevision is up, and so is our monthly bill. So we're talking about possibly getting DirectTV like my folks have... and guess what happens over at GSN...
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Get DirecTV...if for nothing more than the free DVD player. ;-)
ObGameShow: You Bet Your Life is on DVD.
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The Prof has added that there is buzz about a new season of Lingo coming after all. I guess ADD (and all the failures that keep racking up) left a sour taste of reality in the mouths of GSN executives so they're getting desperate to go back to proven shows.
Very cool if you ask me!
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To quote a certain Pyramid celebrity:
Oh, Cousin, now we are so happy, we do the dance of joy!
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Feb 23 2005, 07:38 PM\'][quote name=\'Sonic Whammy\' date=\'Feb 23 2005, 08:54 PM\']But now... our year-long deal with Cablevision is up, and so is our monthly bill. So we're talking about possibly getting DirectTV like my folks have... and guess what happens over at GSN...
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Get DirecTV...if for nothing more than the free DVD player. ;-)
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Surely the main reason to get DirecTV is the actual TiVo (none of these cable company pretenders to the throne) that can record two things at once, yes? Well, maybe that's not so useful if you're going to be watching nothing but GSN.
Looking forward to having a season pass for "Super Password" once again.
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Feb 23 2005, 10:38 PM\']Get DirecTV...if for nothing more than the free DVD player. ;-)
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ObGS: Boomerang is the exclusive home of The Flintstones, in case you ever want to see Barney Rubble on "The Prize is Priced".
[quote name=\'xibit777\' date=\'Feb 23 2005, 11:16 PM\']The Prof has added that there is buzz about a new season of Lingo coming after all. I guess ADD (and all the failures that keep racking up) left a sour taste of reality in the mouths of GSN executives so they're getting desperate to go back to proven shows.[snapback]75998[/snapback]
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[quote name=\'xibit777\' date=\'Feb 23 2005, 11:16 PM\']The Prof has added that there is buzz about a new season of Lingo coming after all. I guess ADD (and all the failures that keep racking up) left a sour taste of reality in the mouths of GSN executives so they're getting desperate to go back to proven shows.
Very cool if you ask me!
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I have to ask...where on his site does Beverly say this?
EDIT: Found it...it's in the "Game Show Grapevine" for anyone else wondering where it was. Of course, that little blurb isn't nearly enough to get my hopes up.
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Absolutely Fabulous! A full set of Rafferty CS by Thanksgiving! I still believe he's one underrated host.
As to SP, I'm kind of praying for a restart from the top if not for any other reason than this: a certain Susanna Williams in two early episodes - if I'm correct, that should be within the first week. Missed it the last time out. My PVR will be ready.
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*prays for PYL on weekdays again.....prays for PYL on weekdays again....*
Aside from that, absolutely fabulous! I'm glad this change comes right around Spring Break, whoohoo! Well....it looks like I have some plans, after all. :-p
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[quote name=\'joe_capitano\' date=\'Feb 24 2005, 03:19 AM\']
As to SP, I'm kind of praying for a restart from the top if not for any other reason than this: a certain Susanna Williams in two early episodes - if I'm correct, that should be within the first week. Missed it the last time out. My PVR will be ready.
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It was the second week of shows, aired 10/1/84-10/5/84 originally, with Abbby Dalton and CN Reilly as the stars.
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Absolutely Fabulous! A full set of Rafferty CS by Thanksgiving! I still believe he's one underrated host.
That's assuming they keep that schedule for a while. Seems like the changes are occuring a lot more frequently than they used to in the network's early years.
I lost GSN from my C-band satellite dish about a year ago...I'm almost considering getting a digital cable box to get it back again...if they keep making moves like this!
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[quote name=\'joe_capitano\' date=\'Feb 24 2005, 03:19 AM\']Absolutely Fabulous! A full set of Rafferty CS by Thanksgiving! I still believe he's one underrated host.
As to SP, I'm kind of praying for a restart from the top if not for any other reason than this: a certain Susanna Williams in two early episodes - if I'm correct, that should be within the first week. Missed it the last time out. My PVR will be ready.
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Wait, wait....weren't they still in their El Capitan Theater usherette outfits those first days? You must be referring to the gold and silver lame gowns they wore a month into the run when they started giving away cars. Now that was hot.
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This is great news. But considering my luck, by Summer starts which is when I can start watching it full time, it will be horrible again.
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[quote name=\'FeudDude\' date=\'Feb 24 2005, 12:46 AM\']
I have to ask...where on his site does Beverly say this?
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I take anything The Perfessor says with some skepticism. Still, this time, I hope he's right. Even then, I probably won't be able to see it. There's been nothing but black where GSN is supposed to be on our local cable line-up.
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Sounds like it's time to get the cable back or go buy a directv.....
Never seen the Rafferty CS, was he as good as Bob E.?
And I really thought Password was toast, WOW!!!!
I think GSN may have finally to listened to it's true game show fans.
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[quote name=\'passwordplus\' date=\'Feb 27 2005, 03:56 PM\']I think GSN may have finally to listened to it's true game show fans.
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Yeah, because all 200 of us make a huge difference.
More than likely, they saw poor ratings; and dwindling advertising dollars. Like it or not; we are not who they listen to for programming decisions.
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[quote name=\'passwordplus\' date=\'Feb 27 2005, 01:56 PM\']Never seen the Rafferty CS, was he as good as Bob E.?
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Since I've had bodily excretions that could have hosted CS better than Bob Eubanks, that wouldn't be terribly difficult.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Feb 27 2005, 03:13 PM\']Since I've had bodily excretions that could have hosted CS
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So THAT explains the 2001 version...you had the #6 again, didn't you? :)
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[quote name=\'Modor\' date=\'Feb 27 2005, 04:06 PM\'][quote name=\'passwordplus\' date=\'Feb 27 2005, 03:56 PM\']I think GSN may have finally to listened to it's true game show fans.
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Yeah, because all 200 of us make a huge difference.
More than likely, they saw poor ratings; and dwindling advertising dollars. Like it or not; we are not who they listen to for programming decisions.
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I don't think this new schedule is going to make a considerable difference in the daytime ratings one way or another.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Feb 27 2005, 04:13 PM\'][quote name=\'passwordplus\' date=\'Feb 27 2005, 01:56 PM\']Never seen the Rafferty CS, was he as good as Bob E.?
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Since I've had bodily excretions that could have hosted CS better than Bob Eubanks, that wouldn't be terribly difficult.
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He was just so interested in making it into Newlywed Game. Always talking, and every so often...oops, he would remember that there was a game. Gosh, it draaaaaaaagged on.
I don't feel much one way or another about this change, not just because I won't see it for the most part, but because there is so little that's remarkable. Password Plus and Super Password again? They tried them at 7 pm, then they tried it in the morning. Neither time worked. Why should it work now, especially when they're split up? Match, Feud, TTTT and Blockbusters have all seen morning daily duty recently, so the only good thing that I see is Rafferty's Sharks. I really hope it's Rafferty's Sharks, else the whole thing's pretty much a wash for me.
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I've had the station for 1 and a half years and I haven't seen any of these shows on a weekday daily basis in the mornings except Feud and MG. And 3 of these shows I've never seen period. So I think they might be trying to reach new viewers. GSN has gotten into a lot more houses over the last couple of years. All of them who have just gotten the channel in a couple years have never seen these shows like TTTT, Password, and Super Password.
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[quote name=\'CarShark\' date=\'Feb 27 2005, 05:59 PM\'] They tried them at 7 pm
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Reason that the two shows got replaced there: Timeslots where there are people actually watching the network, plus two new acquisitions that they REALLY wanted people to see (In their case, it was Win Lose or Draw and Marshall HS) = Time Slots Went Bye-Bye.
then they tried it in the morning.
Reason that the two shows got replaced there: The morning schedules in Late 2002 / early 2003 were basically just an attempt to get some of the vault product onto the schedule...P+ and SP just happened to get rotated out for Tattletales and TTTT '90, which got surplanted by Blockbusters and Trivia Trap...and so on.
The Passwords have just been repeated victims of GSN's programming whims
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They also had P+ on Saturday afternoons for quite some time.
IIRC, they started from the beginning of the run and it got pulled right before the Kennedy eps.
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[quote name=\'CarShark\' date=\'Feb 27 2005, 06:59 PM\'][quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Feb 27 2005, 04:13 PM\'][quote name=\'passwordplus\' date=\'Feb 27 2005, 01:56 PM\']Never seen the Rafferty CS, was he as good as Bob E.?
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Since I've had bodily excretions that could have hosted CS better than Bob Eubanks, that wouldn't be terribly difficult.
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He was just so interested in making it into Newlywed Game. Always talking, and every so often...oops, he would remember that there was a game. Gosh, it draaaaaaaagged on.
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That was the big problem with him for me, too. He was trying waaaaaaayyy to hard to reach for a punch line that seldom came. "Quit giggling, Bob, and ask the verdammte survey question!!!". When he was all-business, though, he was darned good. He was sensational on Trivia Trap so it's clear he knows how to keep a game moving. He just took way too many silly pills before a Card Sharks taping. Cheers to him for making the contestants always feel comfortable, however.
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[quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Feb 27 2005, 08:09 PM\']Cheers to him for making the contestants always feel comfortable, however.
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You're joking, right?
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[quote name=\'Modor\' date=\'Feb 27 2005, 06:57 PM\'][quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Feb 27 2005, 08:09 PM\']Cheers to him for making the contestants always feel comfortable, however.
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You're joking, right?
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I didn't feel comfortable watching him. I'm not sure how people could feel comfortable with him as their guide on the set, but hey.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Feb 28 2005, 02:50 AM\'][quote name=\'Modor\' date=\'Feb 27 2005, 06:57 PM\'][quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Feb 27 2005, 08:09 PM\']Cheers to him for making the contestants always feel comfortable, however.
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You're joking, right?
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I didn't feel comfortable watching him. I'm not sure how people could feel comfortable with him as their guide on the set, but hey.
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It was his gentle touch when he gave back-rubs to the champions... The man was a master!
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[quote name=\'tvwxman\' date=\'Feb 28 2005, 09:43 AM\'][quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Feb 28 2005, 02:50 AM\'][quote name=\'Modor\' date=\'Feb 27 2005, 06:57 PM\'][quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Feb 27 2005, 08:09 PM\']Cheers to him for making the contestants always feel comfortable, however.
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You're joking, right?
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I didn't feel comfortable watching him. I'm not sure how people could feel comfortable with him as their guide on the set, but hey.
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It was his gentle touch when he gave back-rubs to the champions... The man was a master!
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That and when he blew in their ears. Yes, I was joking up above.
Didn't CBS realize that one of their own sports guys could have done the job infinitely better? That would be Pat O'Brien, of course. Aw, no! Where's my handkerchief?
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[quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Feb 28 2005, 11:20 AM\']That and when he blew in their ears. Yes, I was joking up above.
Didn't CBS realize that one of their own sports guys could have done the job infinitely better? That would be Pat O'Brien, of course. Aw, no! Where's my handkerchief?
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You should get the fiancee to whisper his name in your ear at night.
Lord, I apologize.
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Feb 28 2005, 12:39 PM\'][quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Feb 28 2005, 11:20 AM\']That and when he blew in their ears. Yes, I was joking up above.
Didn't CBS realize that one of their own sports guys could have done the job infinitely better? That would be Pat O'Brien, of course. Aw, no! Where's my handkerchief?
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You should get the fiancee to whisper his name in your ear at night.
Lord, I apologize.
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That would be a better alternative to HIGHER! HIGHER!!
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Oh, by the way, you legions of Steve Bev-o haters...
http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories....03107691&EDATE= (http://\"http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/02-28-2005/0003107691&EDATE=\")
...it's official now.
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Well... I will take back what I said about the Professor... and will say that I am very happy to see that this reported schedule change came to fruition.
My DVR is going to be working it's virtual rear end off recording most of the afternoon. And having never seen Rafferty's version of CS... I'm really looking forward to seeing it.
One casualty that I'm a little disappointed in seeing go is Match Game '90... though I'm sure it'll make an appearance again in the future.
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[quote name=\'Terry K\' date=\'Feb 23 2005, 07:09 AM\']
TTTT '90 will wear thin and fast, though. Let's hope that one goes away pretty damn quick.
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Not so fast on the TTTT '90 slam...I've only had GSN on a regular basis for barely more than a year now and I'd LOVE to see this one whether or not it goes away after one complete cycle. During the NBC run, it got locally wiped out over WOWT in Omaha sometime after 1991 began so I missed most of the Trebek shows including the one where Mark Goodson took over as host while Alex had to go tend to his pregnant wife (I think that was how the story went). So please let me enjoy this one again while I can. BTW, I wonder if they'll begin with the Richard Kline pilot?
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Not so fast on the TTTT '90 slam.
BTW, I wonder if they'll begin with the Richard Kline pilot?
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When they last aired TTTT90, they started with the Trebek shows and then jumped to the Elliott shows before replacing it. They didn't air the Kline pilot then. Have they ever aired it before?
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Don't get me wrong, I was just implying there weren't a great number of TTTT '90 episodes available.
If they started with the Trebek shows and jumped to the Gordon shows, they're obviously jumping around a bit.
The original order was Elliott, Swann, Trebek, right?
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[quote name=\'Terry K\' date=\'Mar 2 2005, 11:09 AM\']Don't get me wrong, I was just implying there weren't a great number of TTTT '90 episodes available.
If they started with the Trebek shows and jumped to the Gordon shows, they're obviously jumping around a bit.
The original order was Elliott, Swann, Trebek, right?
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They didn't jump around at all. No doubt they started with Alex's debut appearance because he's the most familiar hosting face from that incarnation. After his three months of shows (all of which ran and in order), the network then began with Gordon's stint.
The original order was indeed as you typed above.
By the way, for those watching NBC at 11am ET on Labor Day 1990, when Charlie O'Donnell introduced Richard Kline as the host, how many of you went, "What?!?". This reaction would be repeated in my household the following Monday when Pat Finn reminded all of America that The Joker's Wild is a game of definitions.
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[quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Mar 2 2005, 10:49 AM\']This reaction would be repeated in my household the following Monday when Pat Finn reminded all of America that The Joker's Wild is a game of definitions.
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The reaction in my household when this happened is not reprintable in a family forum. :)
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[quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Mar 2 2005, 12:49 PM\']
By the way, for those watching NBC at 11am ET on Labor Day 1990, when Charlie O'Donnell introduced Richard Kline as the host, how many of you went, "What?!?". This reaction would be repeated in my household the following Monday when Pat Finn reminded all of America that The Joker's Wild is a game of definitions.
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Being almost 16 and naive, I thought Richard Kline *was* the host, and that the TV Guide was wrong. :)
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[quote name=\'aaron sica\' date=\'Mar 2 2005, 11:51 AM\']Being almost 16 and naive, I thought Richard Kline *was* the host, and that the TV Guide was wrong. :)
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Well, and considering how many game shows Richard Kline had done as a celebrity (plus his nearly famous stint as a contestant on the Pyramid), it seemed plausible.
A hell of a lot more plausible than that no-name Gordon Elliott guy, anyhow. Who the hell was THAT clown? :)
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If you remember the debut listing in TVG, it asked the question: "Will the real host please stand up?" So I wasn't sure the Richard Kline episode was a mistake until the next day when the set was completely different.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Mar 2 2005, 05:01 PM\']A hell of a lot more plausible than that no-name Gordon Elliott guy, anyhow. Who the hell was THAT clown? :)[/quote]
I don't know, but he sure seems to like soup.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Mar 2 2005, 01:02 PM\'][quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Mar 2 2005, 10:49 AM\']This reaction would be repeated in my household the following Monday when Pat Finn reminded all of America that The Joker's Wild is a game of definitions.
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The reaction in my household when this happened is not reprintable in a family forum. :)
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What does that have to do with you posting the reaction here? ;-)
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Mar 2 2005, 04:01 PM\']
A hell of a lot more plausible than that no-name Gordon Elliott guy, anyhow. Who the hell was THAT clown? :)
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At the time, I knew him as the crazy guy from "Good Day New York" (still airing weekdays on WNYW-5 from New York City), who went around knocking on people's doors in the early morning. :)
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And he had been in talk radio before that, I believe. Here, he was on a long, departed station (now a soul station) that also featured Michael Jackson.
No, not THAT Michael Jackson. The OTHER Michael Jackson, who also had a talk show as well.
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[quote name=\'sshuffield70\' date=\'Mar 2 2005, 09:00 PM\']No, not THAT Michael Jackson. The OTHER Michael Jackson, who also had a talk show as well.
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And it's not the other other Michael Jackson (http://\"http://www.beerhunter.com/\"), either.
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By the way, for those watching NBC at 11am ET on Labor Day 1990, when Charlie O'Donnell introduced Richard Kline as the host, how many of you went, "What?!?". This reaction would be repeated in my household the following Monday when Pat Finn reminded all of America that The Joker's Wild is a game of definitions.
Since both NBC stations in my area aired the Jerry Lewis Telethon that day, I didn't get to see it at all until I traded for it in the late '90s!
Also, I know he did it, but how could Pat "remind" everyone that it's a game of definitions on the FIRST episode?
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[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' date=\'Mar 3 2005, 06:52 AM\']Also, I know he did it, but how could Pat "remind" everyone that it's a game of definitions on the FIRST episode?
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That was the kicker to the whole thing. Pat looked directly into your TV screen, and told, well, dozens of loyal Joker's Wild viewers, "AS YOU ALL KNOW, The Joker's Wild is a game of definitions." No, I in fact DID NOT know that, what's this third idiot doing behind the contestant podium, and where the hell is Fast Forward History?
Now, of course it's possible that Pat was addressing the players with that statement, who had doubtless seen a rulesheet by then and DID IN FACT KNOW that The Joker's Wild was now a game of definitions, but if so he was committing the cardinal sin of ignoring his audience, who deserved an explanation. :) (Of course, later we would find that said audience deserved an apology as well, for all of those half-hours they would never get back. :))
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Mar 3 2005, 11:38 AM\'][quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' date=\'Mar 3 2005, 06:52 AM\']Also, I know he did it, but how could Pat "remind" everyone that it's a game of definitions on the FIRST episode?
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That was the kicker to the whole thing. Pat looked directly into your TV screen, and told, well, dozens of loyal Joker's Wild viewers, "AS YOU ALL KNOW, The Joker's Wild is a game of definitions." No, I in fact DID NOT know that, what's this third idiot doing behind the contestant podium, and where the hell is Fast Forward History?
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Another kicker was that announcer Ed Mackay touted it as "The return of the Joker's Wild" in the opening of the earliest episodes.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Mar 3 2005, 10:38 AM\']Now, of course it's possible that Pat was addressing the players with that statement, who had doubtless seen a rulesheet by then and DID IN FACT KNOW that The Joker's Wild was now a game of definitions, but if so he was committing the cardinal sin of ignoring his audience, who deserved an explanation. :) (Of course, later we would find that said audience deserved an apology as well, for all of those half-hours they would never get back. :))
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OK, silly question time. :)
I remember watching the first episode like many of you and noting Finn's now-famous "as you all know" spiel. And this format went on for a few months, IIRC even into early 1991 (and I'm almost positive that those early 1991 episodes carried 1991 copyrights). Then the decision was made to incorporate the "classic" format into the current game, but the shows were back to a 1990 copyright date (eventually some shows in the "classic/current" format carried 1991 copyrights). Doesn't seem to make any sense that a format is changed and then backdated.
So my silly question is when exactly did the changeover occur? Am I completely wrong in that there were shows in the new format that aired as late as early 1991 (with 1991 copyrights) before the changeover?
Doug
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[quote name=\'SRIV94\' date=\'Mar 3 2005, 09:35 PM\']So my silly question is when exactly did the changeover occur?
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I can't summon the exact date (but Zach will be here soon) but I believe it was February 1991...just in time for Winter sweeps--known by most as February sweeps but I don't call them that because sometimes they begin in January or end in early March.
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IIRC even into early 1991 (and I'm almost positive that those early 1991 episodes carried 1991 copyrights). Then the decision was made to incorporate the "classic" format into the current game, but the shows were back to a 1990 copyright date (eventually some shows in the "classic/current" format carried 1991 copyrights).
Hey - even I didn't notice that, and I thought I noticed all these small details!! I've seen shows before where, if they knew they'd be seen early in the new year they'd change the copyright to that year. Then, by the next taping date, it would be back to the year it was taped. Maybe they didn't save the new date in the Chyron (or whatever they used) and just forgot(?)
A TV station I previously worked in always taped their "original" programs very close to air date, but if we were taping in late December, the director would make sure the copyright said the new year - but we almost forgot on a few occasions!
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I'm so happy to hear GSN is bringing back a lot of the classics! I love Password Plus & Super Password! Although, I've pretty much seen enough of $100K Pyramid--I wanna see $25K again, especially the weeks with: Harry Anderson, Michael J. Fox, & Billy Crystal's return!
I would love to see Super Password's entire G. Gordon Liddy week again. Does GSN have them?
I can't wait to see these shows again! It'll give me something to see when there's nothing on.
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I would love to see Super Password's entire G. Gordon Liddy week again. Does GSN have them?
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They have the G Gordon Liddy week, as well as all weeks from the 4.5 year run of Super Password. Liddy appeared on the 4/6/87-4/10/87 week of shows, and NBC got jeered when he appeared on both SP and an episode of Miami Vice in the same time frame. Of course, it would take 2.5 years for GSN to get to that week of shows assuming they start from the beginning of the run.
Were there any celebs who didn't clear their appearances on SP, however?
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GSN's April 4th schedule has appeared on my TiVo. I have already set up my Season Pass for "Super Password." It's impossible to do a Season Pass specifically for the Rafferty "Card Sharks," though; because of GSN's incomplete guide data, every "Card Sharks" episode on the schedule is listed as if it were a generic episode of the 2000 "Card Sharks."
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[quote name=\'trainman\' date=\'Mar 24 2005, 12:24 AM\']every "Card Sharks" episode on the schedule is listed as if it were a generic episode of the 2000 "Card Sharks."
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21st Century Card Sharks.....the next best thing to syrup of ipecac.
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As per Yahoo TV, the afternoon schedule for at least on the 4th looks like this:
3:00 Lingo
3:30 Match Game '77
4:00 Family Feud (Dawson)
4:30 Family Feud (Combs)
5:00 WWTBAM?
6:00 Win Ben Stein's Money
6:30 Win Ben Stein's Money
7:00 Weakest Link
8:00 WWTBAM?
9:00 Weakest Link
10:00 Celebrity Blackjack
11:00 World Series of Blackjack 2005
and the rest is the same (Millionaire, Street Smarts X2, MG PM and MG syndie, and of course, The Name's the Same and WML?)
I got a whole bunch of blank tapes and DVDs ready to record a lot of stuff.
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Primetime Change: Effective with the 4/4 change, The 11PM Win Ben Stein's Money double-take that airs some nights in PT has been halved. Lingo now moves into the 11 PM slot on the nights where the 2x WBSM currently airs
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Yeah I don't think Yahoo is really in the "know" of things. Greed replaces WL from 7-8 also.
They definately aren't as quick with their schedule updates as Adlink was. I miss Adlink... :(
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[quote name=\'Seth Thrasher\' date=\'Mar 24 2005, 09:30 AM\']Primetime Change: Effective with the 4/4 change, The 11PM Win Ben Stein's Money double-take that airs some nights in PT has been halved. Lingo now moves into the 11 PM slot on the nights where the 2x WBSM currently airs
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That was a good move, if I must say. They needed to cut back on WBSM.
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[quote name=\'xibit777\' date=\'Mar 24 2005, 10:52 AM\']Greed replaces WL from 7-8 also.
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TO: Joker's Wild Contestants
FROM: Richard S. Kline
RE: Official "Joker's Wild" Rules
1) "The Joker's Wild" is a Game of DEFINITIONS.
2) Prior to the show, contestant position will be determined by drawing numbers, low number will be seated in the first position.
3) "The Joker's Wild" is a Game of DEFINITIONS.
4) At the beginning of the game, the host will ask a question to all 3 players. The first one to correctly buzz in & answer will have control of the board.
5) "The Joker's Wild" is a Game of DEFINITIONS.
6) Upon the contestant's control of the board, he/she will spin the wheels on the board via the lever on their podium.
7) "The Joker's Wild" is a Game of DEFINITIONS.
yadda, yadda, yadda....