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In case you haven't heard, American Dream Derby is pulling in awful numbers in the Nielsens. So bad, that GSN has decided to not repeat the show, and has moved it to a basement timeslot of around 11pm or 12am(can someone clarify this)
The good news though.. Family Feud will be back on Saturdays at 4pm again, where ADD was showing a repeat.
I was guessing the show was in trouble when they re-aired "Big Bucks: The Press Your Luck Scandal" last night.
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The professor says the repeat runs at 12 midnight (ET) Monday night/Tuesday morning, 11 p.m. on Thursdays and 1 a.m. on Sundays.
I guess nobody really cares about watching a show about horses...
Unless maybe they had contestants do some sort of stunt with manure.
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Hindsight being what it is, it's perhaps not so surprising that a show about the mundane aspects of a minor spectator sport wouldn't pull in very good numbers. Give GSN credit for trying something different, but man, somebody must be taking a bath financially on this one.
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It's almost heartbreaking to hear how bad it's doing for GSN because of how much money they put into it. However, they should have expected it. I find it funny, though, that they put this on even though a few months ago they said that the serial reality shows have just bombed. They seem to have a way recently of putting on different and interesting sporting shows without the reality show aspect, let's keep it like that. Or, if they want to modern the nework up a little, it's evident that they aren't done picking up game shows, how about picking up some 90s games? I contacted GSN to get the ratings for some of the shows. I'll see if they respond.
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[quote name=\'itiparanoid13\' date=\'Jan 19 2005, 08:56 AM\']Or, if they want to modern the nework up a little, it's evident that they aren't done picking up game shows, how about picking up some 90s games? I contacted GSN to get the ratings for some of the shows. I'll see if they respond.
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Are there a lot of 90s-era games left that they don't have that would be worth the effort? Other than Ruprecht's SUPERMARKET SWEEP and perhaps DEBT, I can't think of anything from the 90s that GSN doesn't already have that would be worth being shown again (if someone mentions MG98, I'll scream).
EDIT: OK, I did forget about the Family Channel interactive stuff of 1993, but even with a really good host and a really good announcer, I'm not sure GSN would see that as viable.
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[quote name=\'SRIV94\' date=\'Jan 19 2005, 08:57 AM\']but even with a really good host and a really good announcer, I'm not sure GSN would see that as viable.
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And that's assuming you think Martindale is a really good host.. I don't question his longevity in the business, but his over-the-top stereotypical cheesiness always irritates me. There's a reason he's the model for Mr. Game Show and Keith McTeeth from the Bally Game Show pinball machine.
(For the exact reasons above, tho, Debt was a good vehicle for him.)
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Jan 19 2005, 10:39 AM\']And that's assuming you think Martindale is a really good host.. I don't question his longevity in the business, but his over-the-top stereotypical cheesiness always irritates me. There's a reason he's the model for Mr. Game Show and Keith McTeeth from the Bally Game Show pinball machine.
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What? You're nuts!
(Oh, sorry, thought I would argue just to argue for a moment. :) )
Seriously, the longevity factor is a large part of the equation. I don't question any of the "over-the-top" part of your statement (his tendency to try to be a little witty on TTD during contestant interviews was rather annoying). But I certainly found him to be a capable question reader (and there was a time when that in itself was enough to carry a show), and a not bad game player in his own right. As always, YMMV.
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[quote name=\'SRIV94\' date=\'Jan 19 2005, 11:52 AM\']
(his tendency to try to be a little witty on TTD during contestant interviews was rather annoying). But I certainly found him to be a capable question reader
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Remember how well the two men who succeeded Wink on TTD fared doing similar things.
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[quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Jan 19 2005, 11:14 AM\']Remember how well the two men who succeeded Wink on TTD fared doing similar things.
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No one was claiming that the two men who succeeded Wink on TTD were ever "really good hosts."
And if someone does, I'd advise that person to seek some serious help.
Besides, I wouldn't exactly consider Mssrs. Caldwell and Wayne to be competent question readers--Caldwell was average at best and Wayne was just plain bad. Again, YMMV.
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Heartbreaking? You've got to be kidding. This is a VICTORY for game show fans across the nation. Another reality show bites the dust. Maybe one day they'll wise up and make some GOOD game shows and get back to good ratings. Let's face it, they CAN succeed on high ratings old demos. Otherwise stations would not carry Wheel or Jeopardy in syndication. Along with FF and Millionaire too.
Makes me feel glad that they deleted my Dream Derby post in Casey's thread. I told everyone there it would be a disaster. I knew it would be.... a horse raising show on a game network? What the hell were they thinking?
BRING ON THE GAME SHOWS :) :) :)
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[quote name=\'SRIV94\' date=\'Jan 19 2005, 10:57 AM\']Are there a lot of 90s-era games left that they don't have that would be worth the effort? Other than Ruprecht's SUPERMARKET SWEEP and perhaps DEBT, I can't think of anything from the 90s that GSN doesn't already have that would be worth being shown again (if someone mentions MG98, I'll scream).
EDIT: OK, I did forget about the Family Channel interactive stuff of 1993, but even with a really good host and a really good announcer, I'm not sure GSN would see that as viable.
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I know this goes in the "What a shock!" files, but I think Shop 'Til You Drop's first nine seasons would be a good choice. I remember hearing here or on ezboard that Lifetime shuttled it off because they had more guys watching than girls. It's not too suggestive, but it's weird and wacky enough to keep male interest.
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I just got done talking to people from GSN, and I got the ratings. American Dream Derby, on it's premiere, got a .41, which is just about the same or less as Celebrity Blackjack and Extreme Dodgeball non-debuts, a lot less than Poker Royale was getting, less than Family Feud, and .03 above what Russian Roulette was getting and .08 above Lingo.
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Do you think with the recent turn of events concerning Dream Derby, that the execs at GSn, are rethinking their game plan so to speak on reality programming? Me personally, I didn't understand Horse Racing to begin with, I mean I only hear about it once a year with the big races and all but it isn't mainstream like it used to (from what I've been told). Now with this in mind, what else can GSn put on their network in the reality genre? What's left? A lot of reality programming is too tasteless for GSn's audience.
However I once thought about the network for games, to do those documentaries on casinos like the Travel Channel does every Saturday night, or they can do documentaries on past game show contestants and how their appearance on xxx game show changed their life, or a biography type thing for whosoeverwill. I think if they do it right they can win. As long as they don't try to air something that is out of left field, like the horse racing.
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[quote name=\'itiparanoid13\' date=\'Jan 19 2005, 04:27 PM\']I just got done talking to people from GSN, and I got the ratings. American Dream Derby, on it's premiere, got a .41, which is just about the same or less as Celebrity Blackjack and Extreme Dodgeball non-debuts, a lot less than Poker Royale was getting, less than Family Feud, and .3 above what Russian Roulette was getting and .8 above Lingo.
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I'm not clear on these ratings. "Lingo" got a negative .4? Wow, that is low! :)
Anyway, maybe GSN was seeing a dropoff during the repeats and just decided to subtract ADD from the weekend repeats. No big deal. IMO, no show should be run more than two times anyway, it just dilutes the audience.
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Crap, I forgot to put a .0# before all of those, my stupid fault. I'll try to edit it.
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Maybe a .41 isn't so bad for a primere, but you have to remember what really counts is who comes back to watch the shows. The Prof made sure that his remark came after the 2nd week of Dream Derby aired. Usually a show starts out high then flattens out. Poker Royale was a 0.7 or 0.8 wasn't it on its first showing? I highly doubt it was anywhere near that towards the end of the run.
This week's ratings of Dream Derby must have really nosedived once people saw the show and what it was about. There is no other reason why they would replace it with game shows in non-important time slots such as 4 eastern on the weekend.
Especially since they were promoting it so much, I think there were many viewers watching the first night just to see what it was about since they saw advertisements everywhere including major newspapers, magazines, local TV station commercials, and all over GSN.
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[quote name=\'SRIV94\' date=\'Jan 19 2005, 10:57 AM\']
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I don't know if they're available (probably not or too expensive) but how about the 2 seasons of George's WL and/or the first 2 of Meredith's version of WWTBAM? At least we could banish the overplayed witch for awhile, and we'd get some variety in the latter since GSN's burned through Regis' eps (of what they have) more than enough.
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[quote name=\'itiparanoid13\' date=\'Jan 19 2005, 04:27 PM\']I just got done talking to people from GSN, and I got the ratings. American Dream Derby, on it's premiere, got a .41, which is just about the same or less as Celebrity Blackjack and Extreme Dodgeball non-debuts, a lot less than Poker Royale was getting, less than Family Feud, and .03 above what Russian Roulette was getting and .08 above Lingo.
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Naturally, I'm going to take issue with the ratings......but it's not the fault of Alex for it. I blame GSN.
I think it was well known that "Lingo" and RR premiered at about a .8, and stayed pretty steady. So, for a proper comparison, ADD did half of either of them. Wonder if they got a hint? ;)
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[quote name=\'catnap1972\' date=\'Jan 19 2005, 05:35 PM\'][quote name=\'SRIV94\' date=\'Jan 19 2005, 10:57 AM\']
Are there a lot of 90s-era games left that they don't have that would be worth the effort? [/quote]
I don't know if they're available (probably not or too expensive) but how about the 2 seasons of George's WL and/or the first 2 of Meredith's version of WWTBAM? At least we could banish the overplayed witch for awhile, and we'd get some variety in the latter since GSN's burned through Regis' eps (of what they have) more than enough.
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How's about getting another season or two of Bergeron HS and sticking it on weekdays. And what about the rest of Regis Millionaire? And, although not as popular a show, Anderson Feud, since PAX is now airing Karn Feud only?
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At least we got a week of Tattletales because of it.
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[quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Jan 19 2005, 11:02 PM\']At least we got a week of Tattletales because of it.
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Ha! My thoughts exactly! That was one good thing (or I should say--the ONLY good thing) about it, IMO, anyway!
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How's about getting another season or two of Bergeron HS and sticking it on weekdays.
They have the rights to the entire Bergeron run, don't they?
Since GSN's attempts at running "game-related programming" instead of traditional "game shows" seems to have failed, I wonder how much longer they're going to continue on this course before they give it up, and go back to a 24/7 tradional game schedule. If they don't have a ton of cash to keep throwing at this stuff, you'd think sooner or later they're going to cut their losses and move on.
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[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' date=\'Jan 20 2005, 09:23 AM\']Since GSN's attempts at running "game-related programming" instead of traditional "game shows" seems to have failed, I wonder how much longer they're going to continue on this course before they give it up, and go back to a 24/7 tradional game schedule. If they don't have a ton of cash to keep throwing at this stuff, you'd think sooner or later they're going to cut their losses and move on.
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I wouldn't say it's failed entirely.....There have been some bombs (see: "American Dream Derby, "Kenny v. Spenny" among others), but there's no denying that blackjack and poker shows are hot right now, not just on GSN, but other channels, too.
While I, too, would rather see game-shows on GSN 24/7, I honestly don't see it happening anytime soon.
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My father is in the industry and he is appalled about how the show has turned out. It appears, based on what is being aired to us, that the show is more about "gambling" than it is about raising/maintaining horses. We're seeing nothing about the raising and caring for the animals and more about memory tests, physical challenges and who can withstand sucking in the most warm oat water.
For those of you who know ANYTHING about horses, pull down the ADD Daily Racing Form and review the forms for all of the horses. They are what my Pops would call "dogs". Most, if not all, of them couldn't win a claiming race for $10K unless they were all in a race TOGETHER! It's not that they are bad animals, it's just they are not GOOD animals.
I'll still watch because it's mindless fun.
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The Prof added more stuff about Dream Derby. Turns out it was the first week's ratings he was going by. I sort of wonder the validity of Itiparanoid's ratings now because the 3rd episode *improved* to 0.4 So the first one was below that contrary to what Itiparanoid said.
Can anyone believe Millionaire still gets a 0.9??? That is amazing. Everyone turned the channel after Millionaire. lol
Cronin is standing by Dream Derby unfortunately. He just doesn't get it. They're going to continue on this track of failed shows. Pool is next. Trust me, watching pool normally is BORING. Pool tricks are more fun, but regular old pool is boring unless maybe they get some celebs. Pool professionals hardly ever miss a shot.
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[quote name=\'xibit777\' date=\'Jan 20 2005, 05:30 PM\']Cronin is standing by Dream Derby unfortunately. He just doesn't get it. They're going to continue on this track of failed shows. Pool is next. Trust me, watching pool normally is BORING. Pool tricks are more fun, but regular old pool is boring unless maybe they get some celebs. Pool professionals hardly ever miss a shot.[/quote]
As I said before, I'm a fan of Celebrity Anything when it comes to this genre. But this one's easy. Find out what ratings ESPN gets for pool. Cut it in half, at least. That's what GSN will get.
The more GSN creeps into the pseudo-sports stuff that ESPN and ESPN2 already covers, the more I wonder whether GSN people realize it's already being done, and by folks with a heck of a lot more resources and reach than they have.
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[quote name=\'xibit777\' date=\'Jan 20 2005, 02:30 PM\']Pool is next. Trust me, watching pool normally is BORING. Pool tricks are more fun, but regular old pool is boring unless maybe they get some celebs. Pool professionals hardly ever miss a shot.
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Yeah, I enjoy watching 9-ball on ESPN because they're so insanely good at it, you're sitting there in front of the TV saying "no WAY do they have a shot here!", and the shooter kisses three cushions and cuts the object ball into the 9 for the win.
Celebrity Pool might work if it was some kind of a pro-am tournament where the pros are there to make the shots and the celebrities are there to do the schtick, but I dunno if I wanna watch Celebrities Playing Pool Badly By Themselves.
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Will life imitate art? Will GSN transform itself into "The Ocho"???
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Jan 20 2005, 04:35 PM\']Will life imitate art? Will GSN transform itself into "The Ocho"???
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Using the word "art" with regard to "Dodgeball" is an insult to artists everywhere. :)
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Jan 20 2005, 06:18 PM\'][quote name=\'xibit777\' date=\'Jan 20 2005, 02:30 PM\']Pool is next. Trust me, watching pool normally is BORING. Pool tricks are more fun, but regular old pool is boring unless maybe they get some celebs. Pool professionals hardly ever miss a shot.
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Yeah, I enjoy watching 9-ball on ESPN because they're so insanely good at it, you're sitting there in front of the TV saying "no WAY do they have a shot here!", and the shooter kisses three cushions and cuts the object ball into the 9 for the win.
Celebrity Pool might work if it was some kind of a pro-am tournament where the pros are there to make the shots and the celebrities are there to do the schtick, but I dunno if I wanna watch Celebrities Playing Pool Badly By Themselves.
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I read that Bravo is taping a Celebrity Pool pilot.
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[quote name=\'goongas\' date=\'Jan 20 2005, 11:18 PM\']I read that Bravo is taping a Celebrity Pool pilot.
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I'm waiting for celebrity Phase 10 myself.
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I read that Bravo is taping a Celebrity Pool pilot.
I believe it is beyond pilot stage now. I think it got greenlighted to start taping.
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How about Celebrity Pinball......or Extreme Celebrity Connect 4?
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[quote name=\'sshuffield70\' date=\'Jan 21 2005, 10:21 AM\']How about Celebrity Pinball......or Extreme Celebrity Connect 4?
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Nah...Celebrity Twister. Definitely!
(would probably be too raunchy even by GSN's standards)
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[quote name=\'sshuffield70\' date=\'Jan 21 2005, 10:21 AM\']How about Celebrity Pinball......or Extreme Celebrity Connect 4?
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Funny you should mention that. I saw this concerning Connect 4:
Connect 4 Promo (http://\"http://www.mikeburger.com/connect4.wmv\")
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[quote name=\'mmb5\' date=\'Jan 21 2005, 07:02 PM\'][quote name=\'sshuffield70\' date=\'Jan 21 2005, 10:21 AM\']How about Celebrity Pinball......or Extreme Celebrity Connect 4?
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Funny you should mention that. I saw this concerning Connect 4:
Connect 4 Promo (http://\"http://www.mikeburger.com/connect4.wmv\")
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ROFLMAO!!! Are you still short of breath, Mike??
That's an awesome job. But I think that's the LAST time I give anyone any ideas!
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[quote name=\'sshuffield70\' date=\'Jan 21 2005, 10:21 AM\']How about Celebrity Pinball
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[quote name=\'sshuffield70\' date=\'Jan 21 2005, 10:01 PM\']ROFLMAO!!! Are you still short of breath, Mike??
That's an awesome job. But I think that's the LAST time I give anyone any ideas!
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Yes, Mike, great job with that!! :) I just don't wanna be around when the lever is pulled at the bottom to clear the board...;)
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I think it's official. American Dream Derby ended up being a complete and utter failure. According to the new Adlink update, it has been completely removed from the schedule after Feb 21. They aren't even rerunning it in bad time slots. So this show that was the most expensive GSN has ever made lasted about 1 month? Wonderful move GSN. Let's keep staying away from those game shows now. Wouldn't want anything on the schedule that might last more than a couple months.
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[quote name=\'xibit777\' date=\'Feb 9 2005, 07:49 AM\']I think it's official. American Dream Derby ended up being a complete and utter failure. According to the new Adlink update, it has been completely removed from the schedule after Feb 21. They aren't even rerunning it in bad time slots. So this show that was the most expensive GSN has ever made lasted about 1 month? Wonderful move GSN. Let's keep staying away from those game shows now. Wouldn't want anything on the schedule that might last more than a couple months.
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Don't be surprised if they trudge the reruns out during the summer (when they think everyone bored with network programming will revel over this "new to you" series)...they're going to have to amortize this disaster somehow.
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The reality genre as a whole is problematic. You have to keep trying until you have a winner, but it's like capturing lightning in a bottle. Each of the traditional networks has had at least one "megahit," three or four average performers and a few outright flops. I think GSN will continue to try these kinds of shows, but it's difficult to gauge what will tickle the nation's fancy.
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Feb 9 2005, 07:52 AM\']The reality genre as a whole is problematic. You have to keep trying until you have a winner, but it's like capturing lightning in a bottle. Each of the traditional networks has had at least one "megahit," three or four average performers and a few outright flops. I think GSN will continue to try these kinds of shows, but it's difficult to gauge what will tickle the nation's fancy.
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Well, how hard is it just to make NEW game shows?
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[quote name=\'sshuffield70\' date=\'Feb 9 2005, 09:34 AM\']Well, how hard is it just to make NEW game shows?
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With the standards and expectations that so many people seem to set that end up resulting in a new show being considered an utter failure, not as easy as one might think.
To comment on an earlier post, even during the game show glut of the 1970's, how many shows were introduced and then failed in 13 weeks? Yet, the networks kept pushing out new shows trying to find the winning combination.
I'm sure GSN will have more flops - but also no doubt more successes as well.
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Well, we were, back when they were on very few systems, Nielsen wasn't rating them and they were just biding their time until technology caught up with them and they would need to appeal to advertisers.
In fact, we should be lucky that the reformatting didn't occur sooner than March 2004, that Rich Cronin had at least some hope that a purer (not 100% pure, but purer) game show channel could work with the Nielsens and advertisers and that he got 2 1/2 years to give it a try before Sony came closing in on him. There are reasons why it took 15 years after ESPN and Nickelodeon started the era of specialized cable channels to get a cable game show channel going--and the genre being a hard sell with advertisers was one of them.
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I watched the finale to reward GSN for giving me the Ward TTTT last night.
Sweet mother of bejeezus, that was the most horribly-produced disaster ever. Why didn't they get a host who knew anything about either horse racing or reality-show hosting? Dude couldn't ad-lib to save his life, let alone read a cue card ("your prize will be "forwarded"?!") or build on any of the human drama surrounding the call to post ("whoops, the race is half over, I better shut up") or the winner's celebration.
What a disaster all around - telling us LeeAnn Rimes is coming up right after she quit singing? The graphic proclaiming "TBD" as the winner? Oy.
And form the flashbacks, it looks like the rest of the series was probably worse.
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Thank God this disaster is gone forever after today. Another *GSN original* bites the dust. Hopefully this will give Cronin some more incentive to try a new game show original or a remake of an older one.
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[quote name=\'ChrisLambert!\' date=\'Feb 21 2005, 09:22 PM\']I watched the finale to reward GSN for giving me the Ward TTTT last night.
Sweet mother of bejeezus, that was the most horribly-produced disaster ever. [/quote]
I haven't seen a frame of the series, but now you make me really, really wish I had seen this! This sounds more gloriously, hilariously screwed up than the Trivia Track debut. This was done live, right? I didn't have the vaguest notion when the final was going to be on, and according to my TiVo, GSN doesn't have ANY replays scheduled for something that they spend half a gazillion dollars on.
This ought to be the sort of thing that the news wires would pick up on just to ridicule, if anyone gave a flying fig what GSN was doing with its original programming these days. And why would ANY minor cable outlet schedule their biggest event of the season during sweeps?
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Feb 21 2005, 11:16 PM\'][quote name=\'ChrisLambert!\' date=\'Feb 21 2005, 09:22 PM\']I watched the finale to reward GSN for giving me the Ward TTTT last night.
Sweet mother of bejeezus, that was the most horribly-produced disaster ever. [/quote]
I haven't seen a frame of the series, but now you make me really, really wish I had seen this! This sounds more gloriously, hilariously screwed up than the Trivia Track debut. This was done live, right? I didn't have the vaguest notion when the final was going to be on, and according to my TiVo, GSN doesn't have ANY replays scheduled for something that they spend half a gazillion dollars on.
This ought to be the sort of thing that the news wires would pick up on just to ridicule, if anyone gave a flying fig what GSN was doing with its original programming these days. And why would ANY minor cable outlet schedule their biggest event of the season during sweeps?
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It was live--and according to the biovator in Jackson, "SportsCenter" did run a clip from the "ADD" finale. What they ran or if an anchor made a reference to Gene Rayburn, Richard Dawson or Peter Tomarken, I don't know.
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I did see the Sportscenter mention. There was no mention of any game-show related stuff... just that Deanna Manfredi won the ADD, and the $250,000, and the eight horses (however they may be worth... it wasn't a claiming race, so I couldn't tell from what I could see on Equibase), in this race sponsored by GSN. Very respectfully done and kudos to ESPN for acknowledging the efforts of a competitor in very classy fashion.
I note that there were four other horses entered, and their owner was shown as Scott Stone. Was this show packaged by Stone's production company (the remnants of the old Stone Stanley)?
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For the 0.7 of you who care, the ADD race was also shown on PhoneBetTV. I was bored, so sue me*.
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[quote name=\'davemackey\' date=\'Feb 22 2005, 11:30 PM\']and the eight horses (however they may be worth)
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I did see the Sportscenter mention. There was no mention of any game-show related stuff... just that Deanna Manfredi won the ADD, and the $250,000, and the eight horses (however they may be worth... it wasn't a claiming race, so I couldn't tell from what I could see on Equibase), in this race sponsored by GSN. Very respectfully done and kudos to ESPN for acknowledging the efforts of a competitor in very classy fashion.
I note that there were four other horses entered, and their owner was shown as Scott Stone. Was this show packaged by Stone's production company (the remnants of the old Stone Stanley)?
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