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The question should actually be: What do people think is the second biggest game show story of 2004?
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[quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Dec 14 2004, 09:40 PM\']The question should actually be: What do people think is the second biggest game show story of 2004?
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I'd say it would either be the GSN rebranding (which led to a lot of pulse-quickening and teeth-gritting around here, even though the worst predictions about the channel have not come to pass) or the return of Regis and "Super Millionaire".
Anyone else have any other candidates?
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Besides KJ, there was nothing positive in the world of game shows in 2004.
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I'd say it would either be the GSN rebranding (which led to a lot of pulse-quickening and teeth-gritting around here,
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About that, see my post on the GSN board.
I'd at least was neat to read about the Congress guests in Burbank, and also i'd say the demorlaizing cancellation of 'Pyramid.'
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[quote name=\'PaulD\' date=\'Dec 14 2004, 11:14 PM\']I'd say it would either be the GSN rebranding (which led to a lot of pulse-quickening and teeth-gritting around here,
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Since we know what is Number One, my #2 story of the year is the cancellation of Pyramid and H2, and #3 was Pax airing a game show block in prime time (On the Cover and Balderdash).
Personally, it was the fact that we got digital cable from Time Warner Cable - and we found out that GSN is a subscription only service. Instead, we still have the likes of Sopresa.
Brian
Pope John Paul the Sixth?
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[quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Dec 14 2004, 10:40 PM\']The question should actually be: What do people think is the second biggest game show story of 2004?
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#2, I think, would be Super Millionaire.
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[quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Dec 14 2004, 09:40 PM\']The question should actually be: What do people think is the second biggest game show story of 2004?
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Tough question.
To me, it would have to be the passing of Gene Wood.
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I have 3 canidates for #2:
Super Millionaire
GSN's rebranding
On The Cover & Balderdash completes PAX's game show block.
If I had an honorable mention. it's Jeff Thisled's wedding proposal to Rachel Probolic on TPIR.
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I dunno, I think we'd have to go with the "Bowling Buddy". But that's just me.
Tyshaun
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Would the naming of Rich Fields as Price Is Right announcer factor in anyone's Top Five?
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GSN dropping four classic game shows from their lineup: WLOD and LMAD due to rights to air them lapsing, and $100K Pyramid and WOF(even if they were showing the 1988-89 season of WOF for their third cycle, and the 1986-88 seasons of $100K had several rotations in the last few years). GSN deciding not to renew any of its originals from the class of 2002-03; reruns of Wintuition, Cram, NL's Funny Money, and Russian Roulette biting the dust.
Gene Wood and Art James' deaths, plus (Steve Beverly)six-decade club(Steve Beverly) game show celeb Tony Randall and several other people who were occasional game show guests.
TPIR's 12+ year-old daytime winnings record being smashed, and their 6000th daytime episode, both on the same day.
TPIR Live becoming a hit in several cities, including Atlantic City and Shreveport.
Dick Clark turning 75-teen and suffering a stroke days later.
Add to the list of cancelled Syndie game shows which include H2 and Pyramid: Powerball INstant Millionaire. Another first: The NATPE convention fails to sell or offer a new traditional game show for a second year in 2004, and it is inevitable 2005 will be a record third year without selling or offering a new traditional game show. Was 2003 the first NATPE convention where a new traditional game show was not sold or offered.
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The upside: game shows are cheap, it's easy to produce lots of episodes, you can get good household numbers with a well-designed game.
The downside: the audience skews older and not particularly advertiser-friendly, the genre is as hard as any and harder than most to master.
These pluses and minuses have been known since at least the sixties. When TV people get fixated on the downside, game shows disappear faster than KJ's opponents. When they start dreaming about the upside, game shows stage a comeback. Right now we're in downside-fixation mode, thanks at least in part to the Millionaire-crippled-ABC mantra. Game show elements do get smuggled into reality series, but they're carefully concealed behind soapish human-noninterest stories.
The much-maligned casino game shows may herald a return of more traditional-looking shows, though I wouldn't try to convince the Prof of this. Someday it might dawn on a TV exec that, gee, these shows have people playing a game! Why not try some other games?
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[quote name=\'CaseyAbell\' date=\'Dec 15 2004, 07:36 AM\']Someday it might dawn on a TV exec that, gee, these shows have people playing a game! Why not try some other games?
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Be careful what you wish for....
"It's more then Pente, it's Pente Plus!"
"From Television City in Hollywood, this is All-Star Operation!"
"Last week, on the $1,000,000 Game Of Life..."
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You've already got The Operation Live (http://\"http://www.five.tv/accessibility/factsheets/theoperation_live/\"). There was a taped and edited U.S. show a while back that displayed surgery in some of its bloody glory. IIRC, they once showed a C-Section, not to be confused with C-Span.
Not exactly a game show. But if traditional shows are ever to work their way back to semi-health, the casino game shows might furnish an example. In other words, don't go overboard on all the traditional trappings: the host with a million capped teeth, the lovely parting gifts, the buzzers and buttons and sound effects. Then maybe you can smuggle a game show past the execs, and they won't know what hit 'em. In my opinion, that's just what a lot of the casino gamers have done.
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We have three very popular traditional shows on over-the-air TV, TPIR, WOF and J!, and maybe that's all the market needs. I certainly wouldn't watch a game disguised as a casino show, so any effort to do that would be wasted on me.
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My choices are as follows:
GOOD
Jeopardy becomes "The Adventures of Ken Jennings."
Bob Eubanks puts his life story in print.
Reege records a new album.
The 'network formerly known as Game Show Network' brings back Beat the Clock, The Name's the Same, Match Game '90, and the Jim Perry version of Card Sharks
Dating/relationship shows continue their 'slow-death.'
BAD:
Passings of Art James and Gene Wood
Goodbye Game Show Network, Hello GSN--the 'network for games.' (also, their 'policy' of 'credit crunches up to the end of the show.')
Undeserved cancellation: Pyramid 2004
BORING:
The 'network formerly known as Game Show Network' keeps What's My Line on their line-up instead of retiring it.
Cordially,
Tammy Warner--the 'Cyndy Reynold of the Big Board!'
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[quote name=\'CaseyAbell\' date=\'Dec 15 2004, 09:36 AM\']The much-maligned casino game shows may herald a return of more traditional-looking shows, though I wouldn't try to convince the Prof of this. Someday it might dawn on a TV exec that, gee, these shows have people playing a game! Why not try some other games?
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If AMC gets any kind of pop on "Celebrity Charades," we might have more of an indication that there could be an upside for games, even if it's nothing more than reviving "Win, Lose or Draw" as an all-celeb series, like they did in the UK earlier this year.
Everything is cyclical--and game shows will be back sooner or later. It's just the later part that hurts sometimes.
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Everything is cyclical--and game shows will be back sooner or later. It's just the later part that hurts sometimes.
They probably said that about Westerns too.
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[quote name=\'goongas\' date=\'Dec 15 2004, 07:23 PM\']
Everything is cyclical--and game shows will be back sooner or later. It's just the later part that hurts sometimes.
They probably said that about Westerns too.
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Longer cycle.
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[quote name=\'inturnaround\' date=\'Dec 14 2004, 10:31 PM\'][quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Dec 14 2004, 09:40 PM\']The question should actually be: What do people think is the second biggest game show story of 2004?
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I'd say it would either be the GSN rebranding (which led to a lot of pulse-quickening and teeth-gritting around here, even though the worst predictions about the channel have not come to pass) or the return of Regis and "Super Millionaire".
Anyone else have any other candidates?
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I think, more, the death of the Millionaire franchise on ABC... Especially with the resurgence of "The T&A Show", errrr..., "Desperate Housewives", Millionaire probably won't come back.
At least Regis got one more extra gig to end the year.
But there really wasn't that much else to report -- the death of "Pyramid", a couple of game show deaths, but, unless you want to branch off into the reality muckety-ruck, there really isn't that much there.
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I don't know if this will count as one of the candidates, but how about the (if I can call it that) "Axing" of Supermarket Sweep, since it didn't leave the PAX line-up until March or April of this year?
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[quote name=\'Craig Karlberg\' date=\'Dec 15 2004, 04:31 AM\']If I had an honorable mention. it's Jeff Thisled's wedding proposal to Rachel Probolic on TPIR.
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I wonder if Jeff Thisted and Rebecca Pribonic will be at their wedding.
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I hope Rebecca decides to use Rebecca Pribonic-Thisted as her professional name.
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There's Philip W. Rossi getting s***canned after 300 years of producing TPIR (other people work on game shows besides emcees ya know :-)
And somehow, audiences tolerated another year of Richard Smarm -- er, Karn -- emceeing Family Feud (more of a freak occurrence than a news item).
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[quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'Dec 18 2004, 04:11 AM\'](more of a freak occurrence than a news item).
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Am I right that you're the first and only person at your workplace to ever distinguish the two? ;)