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I was just thinking that "Whammy!: The All-New Press Your Luck" might be a solid property for CBS to pick up for the TPIR slot, paired with reruns of TPIR from 1972-1975 before it expanded to an hour, if there is no way for the current TPIR to continue after Bob leaves. What do you others think?
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[quote name=\'DjohnsonCB\' date=\'Nov 21 2004, 01:27 PM\']I was just thinking that "Whammy!: The All-New Press Your Luck" might be a solid property for CBS to pick up for the TPIR slot, paired with reruns of TPIR from 1972-1975 before it expanded to an hour, if there is no way for the current TPIR to continue after Bob leaves. What do you others think?
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Not gonna happen.
Either "TPIR" continues after Barker leaves or the hour goes back to the stations. I honestly don't think there are any other alternatives.
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That has just as good a chance as Elimidate has replacing TPiR. Saying Whammy is a solid pickup is a bad idea because, last time I got the ratings, they were really bad, worse than Friend or Foe?. And if we want to get into it, Whammy has a lot of things to work out if it hypothetically was to take the place. I can't believe I even made that hypothetical since that's the most inane idea I've ever heard, game show wise.
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that's the most inane idea I ever heard, game show wise.
They could replace TPIR with Mindreaders. Or not.
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[quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Nov 21 2004, 01:49 PM\']Either "TPIR" continues after Barker leaves or the hour goes back to the stations. I honestly don't think there are any other alternatives.
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Actually, even though the CBS daytime lineup (the afternoon part) has remained unchanged for almost 18 years, I could see this happening once TPiR goes off the air (all times EST)
11am - B&B, expanded to an hour (Bill Bell has wanted this for years).
12pm to 1pm - local programming
1pm - Y&R
The rest of the schedule (ATWT @ 2pm, GL @ 3pm) remains unchangd.
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[quote name=\'DjohnsonCB\' date=\'Nov 21 2004, 01:27 PM\']I was just thinking that "Whammy!: The All-New Press Your Luck" might be a solid property for CBS to pick up for the TPIR slot, paired with reruns of TPIR from 1972-1975 before it expanded to an hour, if there is no way for the current TPIR to continue after Bob leaves. What do you others think?
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You might as well show Daisy! The All New Give-N-Take!
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[quote name=\'DjohnsonCB\' date=\'Nov 21 2004, 01:27 PM\']I was just thinking that "Whammy!: The All-New Press Your Luck" might be a solid property for CBS to pick up for the TPIR slot, paired with reruns of TPIR from 1972-1975 before it expanded to an hour, if there is no way for the current TPIR to continue after Bob leaves. What do you others think?
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I haven't read anything this dumb since....uh, when was AdamJK removed?
Seriously.
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Ya know, I usually try to be at least reasonably polite, but this is one of the stupidest ideas I've ever heard.
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You might as well show Daisy! The All New Give-N-Take!
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No.
Per Steve Beverly, it's "Plinko!, The All-New Price is Right"
Whammy! sucks. Period.
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An hour block for TPiR reruns and PYL reruns would be really nice, but it'd never happen.
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Most likely: CBS will snooker its affils into a new talk show hosted by either a sitcom has-been or someone nobody's ever heard of. Or Claudia Jordan.
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My gut feeling is that the eventual replacement will be encore broadcasts of "Cold Case."
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Nov 21 2004, 05:41 PM\']My gut feeling is that the eventual replacement will be encore broadcasts of "Cold Case."
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Would be the first daytime reruns since "Designing Women", also on CBS of course. That would be something......
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I'd lean more towards CBS giving the 11 AM hour back to the affiliates if the show is shelved after Bob leaves. Whatever they put in there will more likely than not tank.
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[quote name=\'PYLdude\' date=\'Nov 21 2004, 06:03 PM\']I'd lean more towards CBS giving the 11 AM hour back to the affiliates if the show is shelved after Bob leaves. Whatever they put in there will more likely than not tank.
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To those in the know: Is the future of TPIR post-Barker a big topic of discussion among the TPIR staff? G-d knows it's been as big a topic of discussion as any in the 11 years of this online community.
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[quote name=\'Dsmith\' date=\'Nov 21 2004, 02:27 PM\']You might as well show Daisy! The All New Give-N-Take!
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Well, Jim Lange is available.
Or would they have Blake Emmons host to hook in those younger viewers?
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Serious Idea. If The Price Is Right ever had to be replaced.. I would love to see a revival of two game shows replace it. Match Game at 11 and Password Plus at 11:30. That would be kind of cool. Of course it most likely won't happen. However it would be Great! That's as long as they kept the programs true to their orginal form. Tom Bergeron as Host of Match Game and Peter Tomarken as host of Password Plus. Now that would be Cool!
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[quote name=\'Skynet74\' date=\'Nov 21 2004, 09:14 PM\']Serious Idea. If The Price Is Right ever had to be replaced.. I would love to see a revival of two game shows replace it. Match Game at 11 and Password Plus at 11:30. That would be kind of cool. Of course it most likely won't happen. However it would be Great! That's as long as they kept the programs true to their orginal form. Tom Bergeron as Host of Match Game and Peter Tomarken as host of Password Plus. Now that would be Cool!
John
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My Reaction to the above is about the same as my reaction to the original poster's idea..er..No Way
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I just try to enjoy what we have now and try not to worry about what might happen in the future.
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[quote name=\'PYLdude\' date=\'Nov 21 2004, 07:03 PM\']I'd lean more towards CBS giving the 11 AM hour back to the affiliates if the show is shelved after Bob leaves. Whatever they put in there will more likely than not tank.
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I'm not as pessimistic about that and I don't think CBS wants to hand the hour back to the affiliates. Of course, we've had this discussion how many times over the past few years?
I don't see what could be lost in giving a new host a chance. If it tanks, you have had that much more time to develop a replacement show or strategy for the hour. If it doesn't, you could be looking at another hour you don't have to worry about during daytime...and you have rescued the hour from the affiliates...because once you give it to them, they don't like giving it back.
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You might as well show Daisy! The All New Give-N-Take!
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No.
Per Steve Beverly, it's "Plinko!, The All-New Price is Right"
Whammy! sucks. Period.
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I wouldn't go that far...I'd stop with "Whammy! was lower budget and couldn't match the original PYL, but that's a tall order." And that's about it. At the same time I feel grateful that they didn't do anything like, if you wanted to pass your spins, you had to use one of your "Spin Chips" and correctly predict a wacky dilemma video's outcome. Kind of like the current FF...the basic premise is there but not the same as its glory days. Still, not bad enough to earn the dreaded *INO suffix.
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[quote name=\'Skynet74\' date=\'Nov 21 2004, 07:14 PM\']Serious Idea.
Peter Tomarken as host of Password Plus. Now that would be Cool!
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Peter Tomarken would be about the worst Password host I could possibly think of.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Nov 22 2004, 12:00 AM\']Peter Tomarken would be about the worst Password host I could possibly think of.
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Anna Nicole Smith? Courtney Love? Ron Artest?
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[quote name=\'inturnaround\' date=\'Nov 21 2004, 11:03 PM\']Anna Nicole Smith? Courtney Love? Ron Artest?
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Ron Artest would be a great host of Password! The contestant doesn't like a ruling, throws his cup of water at Artest, and a melee ensues.
"It's more than 'Password..........it's 'Full Contact Password'!"
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[quote name=\'inturnaround\' date=\'Nov 21 2004, 11:03 PM\'][quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Nov 22 2004, 12:00 AM\']Peter Tomarken would be about the worst Password host I could possibly think of.
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Anna Nicole Smith? Courtney Love? Ron Artest?
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Ron Artest was to host "WHAT THE BLANK", but the show was suspended for the rest of the season.
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Net Blank Check Question du Jour:
Regarding their star player, Indiana Pacers have asked police to "Not Arrest." Name this bad boy superstar.
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Kids, how many times have we discussed the economics of this? The premise of the thread is faulty because CBS will likely keep TPIR after Barker is gone. They'll save jillions of dollars on Barker's salary (the new emcee will make far less) and they'll save zillions of dollars in production costs by going back to a six-show-per-week taping schedule. This will be a windfall for Fremantle and CBS. The lower production costs will cushion any revenue loss due to a dip in the ratings.
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Kids, how many times have we discussed the economics of this? The premise of the thread is faulty because CBS will likely keep TPIR after Barker is gone. They'll save jillions of dollars on Barker's salary (the new emcee will make far less) and they'll save zillions of dollars in production costs by going back to a six-show-per-week taping schedule. This will be a windfall for Fremantle and CBS. The lower production costs will cushion any revenue loss due to a dip in the ratings.
Okay people, okay. In the course of one short day and some 25-odd responses to what I felt was a legitimate idea, many of you have succeeded in prompting mental flashbacks to when I was just 13 and getting it from all sides in and out of Junior High because everyone else allegedly knew tons more than I did did about practically anything that was supposed to matter.
I simply felt that if CBS bought "Whammy!" for the morning, it would work as another revival of a once-proven property that did reasonably well for that network, as well as bringng it to the masses who don't get GSN because their systems don't carry it or they won't spring for digital cable. But if Chris says TPIR with a new host after Bob leaves is the safest bet, since he was willing to spell out the whole scenario, I believe him. No CBS adaptation of "Whammy!", no "Seven Keys/Spin-Off Hour" (though it should still be considered by someone else), no "Eye Guess/Three On A Match Hour" that would utilize a 9-monitor board that would later have another row of three set on top for the "Match" portion, no more suggestions of any kind from this apparently clueless misfit whose efforts to bring his own brand of relevance to this group are now prove about as welcome as my 1990 plea to the CBS station I left behind to move here to pick up a couple of non-game syndies me and the entire market was missing then. So long for now...
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Of course, CBS could just go back to reruns of "The Beverly Hillbillies".
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[quote name=\'Skynet74\' date=\'Nov 21 2004, 09:14 PM\']Now that would be Cool!
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Right; because we have to make it hip 4 da--oh, screw it. Seriously; did someone feed a bottle of stupid pills to the group?
[quote name=\'cmjb13\']Whammy! sucks. Period. [/quote]
Yes, it did. But I think Kotex had that line first.
[quote name=\'Djohnsoncb\'] So long for now...[/quote]
If we actually offended you that badly...wow.
[quote name=\'jmfabino\']I wouldn't go that far...I'd stop with "Whammy! was lower budget and couldn't match the original PYL, but that's a tall order."[/quote]
The problem with Whammy was a host who drank 22 cups of Starbucks before the show started.
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eeewww.... this thread has turned fugly. The most amusing part is that anyone thinks that their ideas are any better than the next guys. In the end we all sit here in our underwear attempting to play Network Executive. Nobody's idea is bad. They are just different. If you want bad ideas then go watch UPN. ;-)
John
either I've just made some friends (or) more people are going to tell me to take my pills.
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[quote name=\'Skynet74\' date=\'Nov 22 2004, 05:38 AM\']Nobody's idea is bad. They are just different. If you want bad ideas then go watch UPN. ;-)
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Yes, can't judge...all ideas are valid? Nah..suggesting that a show that didn't work on cable would work on a network is a bad idea.
Ya gotta call them as you see them.
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[quote name=\'Dsmith\' date=\'Nov 22 2004, 04:06 AM\'][quote name=\'Skynet74\' date=\'Nov 21 2004, 09:14 PM\']Now that would be Cool!
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Right; because we have to make it hip 4 da--oh, screw it. Seriously; did someone feed a bottle of stupid pills to the group?
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Oh...my...god....someone remember THAT catchphrase?!!?
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Of course, CBS could just go back to reruns of "The Beverly Hillbillies".
Naahh..."I Love Lucy" would probably get better ratings :)
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[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' date=\'Nov 22 2004, 06:01 AM\']
Of course, CBS could just go back to reruns of "The Beverly Hillbillies".
Naahh..."I Love Lucy" would probably get better ratings :)
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Nope... "Square Pegs" and "The Famous Teddy Z" repeats.
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Ian, that idea is not too far fetched. Around 1999 or so, our local CBS affil, had some syndicated show at 9am that ended in mid-season, so the station plugged in "ILL" and "Andy Griffith" b&w reruns as a stop gap that turned out to run the balance of one season and into another. It would be easy for CBS to go to the vaults and run these classic shows on the full network with a retro feel. It would be just like the CBS daytime sked of the '60's. BTW, be sure to watch the NBC presentation of the 1947 "Miracle on 34th Street" with John Payne and Natalie Wood on Thanksgiving day at 2 eastern in glorious black and white. Everything old is new again. But it has to be reeeely old to be hip. Having said all that, if "Whammy" were to reappear on CBS, I would think it would be new production, with the mistakes of the GSN version corrected, rather than reruns of a cable show on the Tiffany network.
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Ian, that idea is not too far fetched. Around 1999 or so, our local CBS affil, had some syndicated show at 9am that ended in mid-season, so the station plugged in "ILL" and "Andy Griffith" b&w reruns as a stop gap that turned out to run the balance of one season and into another.
That begs another question then: since those shows have long been syndicated, how hard would it be if CBS wanted to pick up reruns again? I know that they aired some "classic" "All in the Family" episodes in prime time about 10 years ago, but I wonder what the logistics are of running repeats of something that local stations also have rights to.
"I Love Lucy" and "Andy Griffith" are two that puzzle me: they're both on TVLand, *and* on local stations. It used to be that once something went on a national cable channel, it disappeared from local stations.
Lucille Ball was a frequent player on "Password Plus" in the late '70s.
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You might as well show Daisy! The All New Give-N-Take!
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Actually, I hear that Pat Finn is rehearsing for "Definitions...The All New Joker's Wild" which is to be paired up with "Rappin...The All New Tic Tac Dough" with Snoop Patrick Wayne.
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I think the answer is demand. Local stations want the shows, Viacom controls the shows and everyone is okay that the shows also run on cable. Dual revenue stream for Viacom.
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Nov 22 2004, 09:51 AM\'] Having said all that, if "Whammy" were to reappear on CBS, I would think it would be new production, with the mistakes of the GSN version corrected, rather than reruns of a cable show on the Tiffany network.
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THIS is a problem.
Says you, that the "GSN Version" had mistakes.
Says the producers, the programmers, and the staff of "Whammy!", that the show was fine.
And since THEY got a show on the air, and you didn't, what would stop a new version from being as retched as the current incarnation? It's their idea for a show, not yours.
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[quote name=\'Skynet74\' date=\'Nov 22 2004, 02:38 AM\']In the end we all sit here in our underwear attempting to play Network Executive.
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[quote name=\'DjohnsonCB\' date=\'Nov 22 2004, 12:35 AM\']no more suggestions of any kind from this apparently clueless misfit whose efforts to bring his own brand of relevance to this group are now prove about as welcome as my 1990 plea to the CBS station I left behind to move here to pick up a couple of non-game syndies me and the entire market was missing then. So long for now...
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Waah.
The over/under on when he comes crawling back is officially set at 6:00P PDT. As usual, I am accepting all action, with a 5% rake on all payouts.
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Nov 22 2004, 09:51 AM\']Ian, that idea is not too far fetched. Around 1999 or so, our local CBS affil, had some syndicated show at 9am that ended in mid-season, so the station plugged in "ILL" and "Andy Griffith" b&w reruns as a stop gap that turned out to run the balance of one season and into another. It would be easy for CBS to go to the vaults and run these classic shows on the full network with a retro feel. It would be just like the CBS daytime sked of the '60's. BTW, be sure to watch the NBC presentation of the 1947 "Miracle on 34th Street" with John Payne and Natalie Wood on Thanksgiving day at 2 eastern in glorious black and white. Everything old is new again. But it has to be reeeely old to be hip. Having said all that, if "Whammy" were to reappear on CBS, I would think it would be new production, with the mistakes of the GSN version corrected, rather than reruns of a cable show on the Tiffany network.
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Getting way OT...
Speaking of everything old being new again, one of our local stations, WPIX 11 (aka WB11) is showing a block of '70s sitcoms on Saturday prime time. On WPIX's website, they have a page for this block that even uses the "11 Alive" logo from the '70s and has an online version of "TV PIXXX" (also called "TV POW" elsewhere, remember that?) They've also brought back the Yule Log since 2001 on Christmas Day, and a few years back did a retrospective on a pretty famous NY kids' show, The Magic Garden.
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[quote name=\'tvwxman\' date=\'Nov 22 2004, 11:31 AM\'][quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Nov 22 2004, 09:51 AM\'] Having said all that, if "Whammy" were to reappear on CBS, I would think it would be new production, with the mistakes of the GSN version corrected, rather than reruns of a cable show on the Tiffany network.
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THIS is a problem.
Says you, that the "GSN Version" had mistakes.
Says the producers, the programmers, and the staff of "Whammy!", that the show was fine.
And since THEY got a show on the air, and you didn't, what would stop a new version from being as retched as the current incarnation? It's their idea for a show, not yours.
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Sometimes, you gotta tell the emperor that he has no clothes.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Nov 22 2004, 11:37 AM\']Speak for yourself. I'm naked.
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Nov 22 2004, 11:58 AM\']Sometimes, you gotta tell the emperor that he has no clothes.
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All we need is for Connecti-Matt to tell us how he watches Jeopardy! and I will be officially sick to my stomach. :-)
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Nov 22 2004, 11:40 AM\']Waah.
The over/under on when he comes crawling back is officially set at 6:00P PDT. As usual, I am accepting all action, with a 5% rake on all payouts.
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Put me down for 5,000,000 Turkish Lira that he'll be back.
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[quote name=\'dzinkin\' date=\'Nov 22 2004, 12:08 PM\'][quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Nov 22 2004, 11:37 AM\']Speak for yourself. I'm naked.
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I thought it was moderator Matt who watches J! in the buff. Since his $2,000 consolation prize was, after taxes, just enough to cover his expenses for his trip to Culver City, he had to put his wardrobe up on eBay.
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[quote name=\'tvwxman\' date=\'Nov 21 2004, 02:35 PM\'][quote name=\'DjohnsonCB\' date=\'Nov 21 2004, 01:27 PM\']I was just thinking that "Whammy!: The All-New Press Your Luck" might be a solid property for CBS to pick up for the TPIR slot, paired with reruns of TPIR from 1972-1975 before it expanded to an hour, if there is no way for the current TPIR to continue after Bob leaves. What do you others think?
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I haven't read anything this dumb since....uh, when was AdamJK removed?
Seriously.
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It coulda been worse. He could have suggested a return of The Diamond Head Game.
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[quote name=\'DrJWJustice\' date=\'Nov 22 2004, 11:27 PM\']It coulda been worse. He could have suggested a return of The Diamond Head Game.
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That would rule!! Put that on before the Give-n-Take remake. Bob Eubanks and Jim Lange back-to-back just like the old days. Begin the petition-signing now.
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[quote name=\'GS Warehouse\' date=\'Nov 22 2004, 09:01 PM\']I thought it was moderator Matt who watches J! in the buff. Since his $2,000 consolation prize was, after taxes, just enough to cover his expenses for his trip to Culver City, he had to put his wardrobe up on eBay.[/quote]
When you've got wonderful friends to stay with (and buy you meals) when you're in town, you see a lot more of that two grand than you might think! Most of the dough went toward a Trading-Spaces-like, 48-hour renovation of my basement....where I just HAPPEN to watch J! in the buff.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Nov 23 2004, 10:45 AM\']When you've got wonderful friends to stay with (and buy you meals) when you're in town, you see a lot more of that two grand than you might think! Most of the dough went toward a Trading-Spaces-like, 48-hour renovation of my basement....where I just HAPPEN to watch J! in the buff.
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Nov 23 2004, 08:50 AM\']Are there any swingers in this basement?
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Nov 23 2004, 11:51 AM\'][quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Nov 23 2004, 08:50 AM\']Are there any swingers in this basement?
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Aw, man. I shook his hand twice last summer. Don't tell me this.
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[quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Nov 23 2004, 10:03 AM\']Aw, man. I shook his hand twice last summer. Don't tell me this.
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[quote name=\'tvwxman\' date=\'Nov 22 2004, 11:31 AM\']THIS is a problem.
Says you, that the "GSN Version" had mistakes.
Says the producers, the programmers, and the staff of "Whammy!", that the show was fine.
And since THEY got a show on the air, and you didn't, what would stop a new version from being as retched as the current incarnation? It's their idea for a show, not yours.
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In my opinion, W! was the best remake Fremantle's done to date. It kept the heart of the game and added some fun twists. It would have been mighty hard to outdo the original...this show being such a cult fave, but they did a damned respectable job. I think GSN is more at fault for the percieved flaws than anyone.
I hope it gets a shot in syndication one of these days. When and if the airwaves are more game friendly and with the right marketing, I think it could do well. It's a fun no-brainer way to spend half an hour and as the American public has proven time and again, no brainer TV is a winner.
Having said that, I have to agree that W! replacing TPIR on CBS will NEVER happen. There aren't any games IMO with that kind of appeal and staying power.
ITSBRY
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[quote name=\'ITSBRY\' date=\'Nov 23 2004, 01:36 PM\']In my opinion, W! was the best remake Fremantle's done to date. It kept the heart of the game and added some fun twists. It would have been mighty hard to outdo the original...this show being such a cult fave, but they did a damned respectable job. I think GSN is more at fault for the percieved flaws than anyone. [/quote]
Adding an element that belongs on Nickelodeon isn't a "fun twist", IMNSHO.
I hope it gets a shot in syndication one of these days. When and if the airwaves are more game friendly and with the right marketing, I think it could do well. It's a fun no-brainer way to spend half an hour and as the American public has proven time and again, no brainer TV is a winner.
It would tank.
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[quote name=\'Dsmith\' date=\'Nov 23 2004, 04:00 PM\']It would tank.
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As much as these other talk and reality shows are dropping off the radar ("Home Delivery" canned, "Pat Croce" and "Life & Style" soon to follow), I don't see what it would hurt to give a new PYL a shot. But I do agree, they ought to make some needed (IMO) changes. The CBS angle, however, ain't.......gonna......happen.
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[quote name=\'ITSBRY\' date=\'Nov 23 2004, 01:36 PM\']In my opinion, W! was the best remake Fremantle's done to date. It kept the heart of the game and added some fun twists. It would have been mighty hard to outdo the original...this show being such a cult fave, but they did a damned respectable job. I think GSN is more at fault for the percieved flaws than anyone.
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PYL's status as a cult favorite is itself a problem -- because more than a few of the "cult members" (so to speak) saw any deviations of any sort from the show they remembered as "flaws" by definition. Sure, it would have been nice if another element or two from the original (for example, returning champions) had been retained -- but despite the claims by some of the more obsessed fans (http://\"http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&selm=18459-3CC62E93-16%40storefull-2298.public.lawson.webtv.net\") that GSN simply should have reconstructed the show element by element from the CBS days, there was no way that was going to happen, and it's wishful thinking to believe otherwise. I'm not saying that's what you wanted, but it's part of the problem in assuming that a show that was moderately successful for three years in the mid-80s can be resurrected so easily and that its audience will necessarily follow.
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[quote name=\'ITSBRY\' date=\'Nov 23 2004, 01:36 PM\']
Having said that, I have to agree that W! replacing TPIR on CBS will NEVER happen. There aren't any games IMO with that kind of appeal and staying power.
ITSBRY
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QUOTE(ITSBRY @ Nov 23 2004, 01:36 PM)
In my opinion, W! was the best remake Fremantle's done to date. It kept the heart of the game and added some fun twists. It would have been mighty hard to outdo the original...this show being such a cult fave, but they did a damned respectable job. I think GSN is more at fault for the percieved flaws than anyone.
QUOTE (Dsmith)
Adding an element that belongs on Nickelodeon isn't a "fun twist", IMNSHO.
How convenient that you forgot the entire first round, Mark.
I rather enjoyed the chicken element, along with the Big Bank, and a few other things. Yeah; I would like to see a few minor things 'fixed,' but I think by-and-large it was a good program. Good enough to return outside of GSN? I dunno.
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What I would change: No more slime on the contestants and allow them to be seated. Give the Whammies more charm; the primitive animation of PYL was more endearing. Make the game board more tidy, be it oval or rectangular. Direct Todd to be less hyperactive. It probably won't come back, but, to paraphrase Jim Peck, "There's always time for a Second Chance."
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I agree with Jimmy re the board. There was just something about it that wasn't very appealing. The second season board was definately better, though. Also, whenever a contestant hit a square, that square would appear in the middle of the board - but still too small and too quick to really be noticed. I'd have stuck to the closeups that they used on the CBS days.
Oh...and maybe "eggcrate" displays...I always liked them!
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[quote name=\'TLEberle\' date=\'Nov 23 2004, 11:01 PM\']
How convenient that you forgot the entire first round, Mark.
I rather enjoyed the chicken element, along with the Big Bank, and a few other things. Yeah; I would like to see a few minor things 'fixed,' but I think by-and-large it was a good program. Good enough to return outside of GSN? I dunno.
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Yip! My thoughts exactly. The new round one and the BIG BANK were a very cool way to freshen the game without changing it completely and little things like "Bill" were an amusing update to the animation segments and a pretty cool idea that I'm surprised the original show didn't think of.
The second season fixed most of the problems I had with the show. Had it gone on, I have no doubt that Mandel would have pushed for more tweaks to make a better game. The only enduring flaw IMO was that the audience was just too noisy and distracting. The original game seemed more exciting when it was just player vs. board. The audience noise was usually hushed during the spins. Sort of the opposite problem "Pyramid" had. The WC round was too quiet!
I'm sure Mark is probably referring to the Double Whammy. People may see this as a flaw, but it didn't bother me. It may have been a bit over utilized (thanks to the focus groups), but I thought it was kinda fun. Goofy concept yes, but not a deal breaker for me. The show has always had a "kiddish" element to it anyway. This was just taking it a step further. Heck, the next incarnation will probably include a 'death by whammy' element. :)
ITSBRY
itsbry@juno.com
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[quote name=\'ITSBRY\' date=\'Nov 24 2004, 11:53 AM\']and little things like "Bill" were an amusing update to the animation segments and a pretty cool idea that I'm surprised the original show didn't think of.[/quote]
Well, they thought of Tammy Whamette.
The only enduring flaw IMO was that the audience was just too noisy and distracting
Are you sure we are talking about the same show? This show had some of the worst audience participation I've ever seen. Have you ever seen the look on the audience members faces? They look like they didn't want to be there. Not to mention how small it was.
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[quote name=\'cmjb13\' date=\'Nov 24 2004, 12:34 PM\']Well, they thought of Tammy Whamette.
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And Fang. Seriously, the major problem I had with the whammies was that most of them were entirely too long. Sure, they became the most popular element of PYL during its run, but most of the original animations were short and sweet and didn't slow the flow of the game, which Whammy!'s whammies did.
Are you sure we are talking about the same show? This show had some of the worst audience participation I've ever seen. Have you ever seen the look on the audience members faces? They look like they didn't want to be there. Not to mention how small it was.
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Whammy, IMO, had more audience sweetening than any other game show I've ever seen, which lent to the whole "forced" feeling of the show.
Tyshaun
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[quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Nov 23 2004, 06:58 PM\']Dan Rather will get the hour all to himself when Bob retires :)
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Seeing how Dan's leaving his anchor job, perhaps Dan can take over for Bob. Can you imagine the quotations that'd fly out of his mouth during the various pricing games?
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"Whoo, Nelly! The price of that peanut brittle is lower than dust mite dung on an ant's tennis shoe. After two pricing games, CBS is declaring Marsha the winner of the Showcase Showdown."
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[quote name=\'tyshaun1\' date=\'Nov 24 2004, 08:00 PM\'][quote name=\'cmjb13\' date=\'Nov 24 2004, 12:34 PM\']Well, they thought of Tammy Whamette.
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And Fang. Seriously, the major problem I had with the whammies was that most of them were entirely too long. Sure, they became the most popular element of PYL during its run, but most of the original animations were short and sweet and didn't slow the flow of the game, which Whammy!'s whammies did.
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And what's more, for the most part, unlike in the original the whammies NEVER lost. Meaning the charm of the PYL animations partially came from seeing how the Whammy would kill himself this time. The W! animations had very few whammy humiliation scenes.