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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: tvwxman on September 08, 2004, 09:23:06 PM
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.I think we need a separate board for speculation on the end....
Keith Olbermann's fantastic "Countdown" show on MSNBC tonight reports that TVWeek reports that Ken lost on a taping TODAY, while playing for his 75th win...racking up $2.5 mil in the process...
True ? Fiction? I guess we'll find out in 7 weeks.
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www.tvweek.com has breaking news, which confirms Matt's post.
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I don't buy it for two reasons:
1. A "Jeopardy!" spokesman did not return a call, but was quoted in TV Week saying that since the show's "inception, we have never disclosed whether a contestant has won or lost before a show aired
2. This coming from the blog where this all began:
I asked the studio if this was supposed to be a secret but they said we could spread the news. Spread the news. The show should air around the end of October."
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[quote name=\'adamjk\' date=\'Sep 8 2004, 10:08 PM\'] I don't buy it for two reasons:
1. A "Jeopardy!" spokesman did not return a call, but was quoted in TV Week saying that since the show's "inception, we have never disclosed whether a contestant has won or lost before a show aired
2. This coming from the blog where this all began:
I asked the studio if this was supposed to be a secret but they said we could spread the news. Spread the news. The show should air around the end of October." [/quote]
First off, J! staffers HAVE disclosed the results of at least some shows before airing. Per a Washington Post article from 10/23/99 -- printed after Eddie Timanus's first three shows had aired -- "show officials" confirmed that Eddie was in fact a five-day champion.
That notwithstanding, your reasoning proves absolutely nothing. What if the tip came from an audience member? Contestants are told not to disclose the outcome of a show, but audience members often are told the exact opposite; that was the case at the J! Tournament of Champions I attended in Atlanta, where Johnny Gilbert was asked about this very matter and replied that audience members could indeed share the results.
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In that regard, the chain of vulnerability starts at the audience level, followed by the show staffers & then the contestants(sworn to secrecy as always).
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[quote name=\'tvwxman\' date=\'Sep 8 2004, 08:23 PM\'] SPOILER SPACE
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Keith Olbermann's fantastic "Countdown" show on MSNBC tonight reports that TVWeek reports that Ken lost on a taping TODAY, while playing for his 75th win...racking up $2.5 mil in the process...
True ? Fiction? I guess we'll find out in 7 weeks. [/quote]
Well, maybe it is true. For I heard the same news on the Early morning shows on NBC & ABC. So... all I can say is fire up the VCR's, I guess.
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So, in-studio spoilers are banned here...except when they're not.
If J! doesn't mind spoilers coming from the audience, then why again do we have a blanket blackout?
I tend to buy the TV Week report, though. They're a fairly well put-together trade paper that I used to read.
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Mr. Zinkin is right on.
While TPiR has a much more relaxed approach on the subject, somewhere deep in my Contestant Guidelines novel that we were given, it says that "we will not disclose the outcome" until airing. HOWEVER, we all know that the other 316 people could give a rats ass less on protection - they won nothing.
How many times do we hear that a big Golden Road win took place months before it airs? You wanna know what happens on the Season 33 premiere? I know and I sure didn't hear it from a contestant.
With the amount of hype being generated by Ken Jennings, who is a marvelous player, there is someone in that studio audience just dying to leave the taping and blab the results to someone who will listen.
It will happen...he will lose. I personally don't care when (with no offense to Ken), I think it's just great entertainment to watch. When it happens, it happens. It seems to me that the focus has turned to when he's going to lose...without any regard to how well he's doing.
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Has it occured to anyone that this may be a ploy by Jeopardy producers in order to keep ratings up?
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[quote name=\'adamjk\' date=\'Sep 9 2004, 08:48 AM\'] Has it occured to anyone that this may be a ploy by Jeopardy producers in order to keep ratings up? [/quote]
Adam,
How long have you been a conspiracy theorist?
ABCNews.com and the AP are reporting that Jennings lost. Heck, someone who attended the tapings on Tuesday told me Jennings lost (not my bowling buddy, tiddly winks partner, or curling teammate). This makes 4 media outlets and one very credible witness.
Tuesday, November 9 should be Ken's final show, depending on when the college tournament airs.
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[quote name=\'inturnaround\' date=\'Sep 9 2004, 06:49 AM\']So, in-studio spoilers are banned here...except when they're not.[/quote]
No, it's more along the lines of "we don't want them here but there will be times when the information gets out regardless, and we need to strike a balance."
If J! doesn't mind spoilers coming from the audience, then why again do we have a blanket blackout?
There's a difference between telling a few friends and posting the result to a board read by over a thousand people. There's also a difference between an occasional game show result that's reported in the mainstream media, and a flood of "HEY LOOK AT THIS I WAS IN THE AUDIENCE I GOTTA TELL YOU WHAT HAPPENED RIGHT NOW" posts.
As has been explained to you and others time and again, the fact that in-studio results will get out occasionally doesn't mean we have to encourage it.
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This has become a bona fide news item, so it seems a little silly and disingenuous for us to bury our electronic heads in the sand and pretend we don't know. David's right that we don't encourage this sort of discussion, but we're also realistic.
By the way, the folks at Jeopardy are extremely upset and annoyed that the word got out as quickly as it did. They absolutely did not want that to happen, regardless of what some people are saying. They're trying to repress the discussion on the Sony board by deleting threads and threatening to delete accounts, but at this point that's like trying to control an elephant with a flyswatter.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Sep 9 2004, 09:23 AM\']By the way, the folks at Jeopardy are extremely upset and annoyed that the word got out as quickly as it did[/quote]
They shouldn't be.
Then don't tape in front of an audience.
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Aw, heck, we knew it would get out. The darned show tapes months in advance. I've even asked a friend who lives in the area and attends Jeopardy! tapings to keep me posted. Still looking forward to seeing the Alex reaction to all this as the weeks fly by. So, did my prediction of last June come true? Did Erik Krapelein knock him off?
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[quote name=\'hmtriplecrown\' date=\'Sep 9 2004, 08:04 AM\'] Tuesday, November 9 should be Ken's final show, depending on when the college tournament airs. [/quote]
Perfect. Just in time for sweeps.
Not trying to add to the conspiracy theory, mind you. :)
Doug
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Sep 9 2004, 09:23 AM\'] By the way, the folks at Jeopardy are extremely upset and annoyed that the word got out as quickly as it did. They absolutely did not want that to happen, regardless of what some people are saying. [/quote]
And with all due respect to that fine production staff, who are they kidding?
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If the Jeopardy folks were really concerned about keeping The Big Secret, couldn't they have moved the tapings up closer to air time? Jeopardy can't require that much post-production. From what I've heard tapings usually go very smoothly.
Did they really expect news of a loss by Ken to stay buried for six to eight weeks? Then why did they bring in a studio audience? The show has little leverage over the spectators, and the producers had to know that SOMEBODY would make a phone call sooner or later. So why not at least cut down the time-window?
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The ones who are really going to run with this, as a new season starts, are those TV stations that don't run Jeopardy. Channel 5 in NYC this afternoon was fairly gushing at the news that Ken is going to lose. Why? That the ratings will start to subside with word of the end o'Ken, and that Channel 5 has "Malcolm in the Middle" or some other fledgling syndicated property in the 7PM slot.
Their rationale: "Rosebud is a sled. You don't need to watch the thing. Watch Frankie Muniz and his squeaky voice on Channel 5 instead!" which should give them momentum going into the November sweeps.
And the J! staff has every right to be worried. Are we to the point now where game show audiences have to sign confidentiality affidavits just like the audience of the final episode of "Friends" did?
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For those who want to play along and say "I coulda beat Ken", the alleged Final Jeopardy clue of the game in question is posted over at kottke.org.
(No links, no copying, spoil it for yourself only)
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I'm surprised Da Perf hasn't been all over this yet; I can't help wondering what he thinks/what he'll say.
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And the J! staff has every right to be worried. Are we to the point now where game show audiences have to sign confidentiality affidavits just like the audience of the final episode of "Friends" did?
Have to wonder if those affidavits would be legally enforceable, assuming that the show's producers could ever identify the audience member(s) who ratted out. I guess the lawyers could argue that the show suffered a loss in value as a result of the leaks. That might form the basis for a lawsuit.
I'm not a lawyer and I don't play one on TV and I don't usually watch actors playing lawyers on TV, but has there ever been an actual case involving an audience member who blabbed after signing a confidentiality agreement? I have to think the odds would be WAY against TV producers convincing a jury to extract damages from some poor schmoe in the audience.
For those who want to play along and say "I coulda beat Ken", the alleged Final Jeopardy clue of the game in question is posted over at kottke.org.
I'll give the guy credit for breaking the story...if the story is true. But he's also responsible for one of the lamer attempts (http://\"http://www.kottke.org/04/07/ken-jennings-jeopardy\") at humor perpetrated about Ken's run. Life really isn't fair. By the way, I couldn't have beaten Ken on the alleged FJ answer. My guess turned out to be wrong, if the company's web site is to be believed.
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I was thinking it was going to be in November when he breaks the Olmstead record myself -- and then in addition the rumor would have him losing shortly thereafter.
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[quote name=\'aaron sica\' date=\'Sep 9 2004, 01:17 PM\'] I'm surprised Da Perf hasn't been all over this yet; I can't help wondering what he thinks/what he'll say. [/quote]
Well if you check the main page over there, you can read his position regarding this.
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Sounds like the Prof knows the story is true, or at least he hasn't been able to prove it false.
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[quote name=\'CaseyAbell\' date=\'Sep 9 2004, 03:29 PM\'] at least he hasn't been able to prove it false. [/quote]
Well, that's not saying a whole lot, now is it? ;)
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[quote name=\'adamjk\' date=\'Sep 9 2004, 06:23 PM\'] [quote name=\'aaron sica\' date=\'Sep 9 2004, 01:17 PM\'] I'm surprised Da Perf hasn't been all over this yet; I can't help wondering what he thinks/what he'll say. [/quote]
Well if you check the main page over there, you can read his position regarding this. [/quote]
Thanks, Adam. Wasn't there before when I checked, but thanks for letting me know he put something up.
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anytime Aaron
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[quote name=\'starcade\' date=\'Sep 9 2004, 04:17 PM\'] I was thinking it was going to be in November when he breaks the Olmstead record myself -- and then in addition the rumor would have him losing shortly thereafter. [/quote]
If Jennings does indeed hit the $2.5 million mark before going bye-bye, one wonders if a return of Super Millionaire(if it does return in November sweeps) would have at least one contestant's set of questions dumbed down a tad to try to force a question 13 or 14 win. It would seem Ken's loss episode will coincide with sweeps.
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While I appreciate the attempted tone of Perf's announcement about his posting policies, anyone who reads that is gonna know something big is up; so what he posted is essentially its own spoiler, regardless of whatever he's saying.
As much as some people don't like the way he occasionally seems to ostrich into the ground, he really would have been smarter there to shut the heck up, or at least be more general in his wording.
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I'm just surprised he hasn't taken it upon himself to take credit for the story.....
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EXTRA (The TV Show) just reported what we have been knowing since last night. Ken Jennings walks away with the richest cash winning total in J! history.
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He already has. Even if he lost tomorrow
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Here is a question, and sorry if its been discussed. What I read is that he walked away from the show. Are they meaning that he lost, or that he just literally walked away?
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They mean he lost. I don't think they would allow him to just walk away.
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[quote name=\'itiparanoid13\' date=\'Sep 9 2004, 07:14 PM\'] Are they meaning that he lost, or that he just literally walked away? [/quote]
I can't believe you people are still beating this dead horse.
Assuming this is true, and the streak ends when it is claimed, and the money amount is what has been reported, I can give you two very good reasons why the concept of him walking away is just idiotic:
If he WERE to leave, he would do so because he had no more worlds to conquer, I should think. So in addition to all of the other milestones he's passed, assuming the above, he passes two more:
1) He breaks Thom McKee's game streak (which is supposed to happen, what, next week?), and
2) He passes Kevin Olmstead...and still keeps playing somewhere between 5 and 10 more games, at least.
Olmstead is the only GS record that exists beyond McKee. If he's gonna walk when he's done them all, he'd do it upon passing Olmstead. But he apparently doesn't.
He's gonna play until he drops. Everyone drops eventually.
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Those records listed are the domestic records. There still rages the record set overseas of 75 victories by an individual player on 100%.
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...plus Thom's 89 games of TTD *played*
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Well, after all this, I'll just say without any offense to anyone that Ken Jennings will no doubt be the greatest AMERICAN contestant in game show history bar none.
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[quote name=\'CaseyAbell\' date=\'Sep 9 2004, 05:29 PM\'] Sounds like the Prof knows the story is true, or at least he hasn't been able to prove it false. [/quote]
Oh, he knows. He and Harry Friedman? Like that. Closer than brothers.
And Prof probably has his interview with Jennings all done by now and has to sit on this titanic 12-parter until November.
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[quote name=\'Robair\' date=\'Sep 10 2004, 06:09 AM\'] [quote name=\'CaseyAbell\' date=\'Sep 9 2004, 05:29 PM\'] Sounds like the Prof knows the story is true, or at least he hasn't been able to prove it false. [/quote]
Oh, he knows. He and Harry Friedman? Like that. Closer than brothers.
And Prof probably has his interview with Jennings all done by now and has to sit on this titanic 12-parter until November. [/quote]
"How would you explain your amazing run?"
"What was Alex like off camera?"
"Did you get along with the other contestants?"
"Did Johnny let you touch his warm-up jacket?"
"What went through your mind when you won your first million?"
"Wouldn't you agree that the docudateries, gameumentaries, docutrasheries and other television programs of that ilk are poisoning the minds of our children and adults today and will eventually lead to the birth of The Fourth Reich?"
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A Washington Post story (http://\"http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A10325-2004Sep9.html\") today adds some fuel to the KJ fire. Interesting comments from the blogger who broke the story. His sources don't sound rock solid to me, but I'm a suspicious kind of guy.
All the conspiracy theories only add to the fun, of course. I expect some media outlet(s) will start tailing Ken to see if he goes to any more Jeopardy tapings.
By the way, my guess on the alleged Final Jeopardy answer was Kelly Services. I figured temps might only work four months a year on average. Luckily, I wagered $0.
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[quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Sep 10 2004, 08:31 AM\'] "Wouldn't you agree that the docudateries, gameumentaries, docutrasheries and other television programs of that ilk are poisoning the minds of our children and adults today and will eventually lead to the birth of The Fourth Reich?" [/quote]
I laughed out loud at this one, Don.
Don't ever leave us.
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By my calculations, the alleged 75th episode for Ken will occur on Tuesday, November 2nd ! Which means, this could be the headline in the papers: "Bush and Kerry both lose in 0-0 tie. America would rather watch Ken Jennings. Ralph Nader elected president with 3 votes"
Also, last night. Conan made a joke about the 75th game rumor. He also said Jennings lost on the category "Womens Breasts" : )
-Joe R.
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[quote name=\'CaseyAbell\' date=\'Sep 10 2004, 08:41 AM\'] A Washington Post story (http://\"http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A10325-2004Sep9.html\") today adds some fuel to the KJ fire. Interesting comments from the blogger who broke the story. His sources don't sound rock solid to me, but I'm a suspicious kind of guy. [/quote]
Running a blog and having a big ego naturally go hand-in-hand, but somebody needs to tell little internet boy that no reputable news organization is going to use his on-line diary and a "super tipster" he's never met as the one-and-only source for a story. I learned about it from a different source hours earlier, and it's entirely possible that TV Week did too, or at least got it corroborated before publishing.
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JRaygor,
By my calculations, Jeopardy has a TOC, a Kids Week, and a College Championship coming up. That means his 75th episode is scheduled to air on November 30th.
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[quote name=\'OntarioQuizzer\' date=\'Sep 10 2004, 10:34 AM\']JRaygor,
By my calculations, Jeopardy has a TOC, a Kids Week, and a College Championship coming up. That means his 75th episode is scheduled to air on November 30th.[/quote]
November 30th would push the Jennings loss episode out of Sweeps IIRC(Sweeps ends on Thu or Fri of Thanksgiving week I believe). I'd bet on J! moving the kids week to Xmas or Feb sweeps to air the Jennings loss during Sweeps.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Sep 9 2004, 08:23 AM\'] By the way, the folks at Jeopardy are extremely upset and annoyed that the word got out as quickly as it did. [/quote]
I can imagine. Anyone want to predict how far the ratings will drop until November?
In hindsight: Assuming this story broke at least in part because an audience member blabbed, would it have been difficult to just not have an audience for a while? They take shots of the audience so rarely, I know I would't have noticed if they quit.
I hate people that take pleasure in ruining the outcomes of things for everybody else. Makes me want to build a time machine and spoil the results of the World Series right now.
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Scott Robinson
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[quote name=\'OntarioQuizzer\' date=\'Sep 10 2004, 10:34 AM\']
By my calculations, Jeopardy has a TOC, a Kids Week, and a College Championship coming up. That means his 75th episode is scheduled to air on November 30th. [/quote]
And, if they have not scheduled the extra tourneys yet, you can be damn sure they will.
Why? Because November is a BIG ratings period, and the longer the Kenstreak goes into sweeps, the more money affiliates can make on Jep. If he goes out early in the month, the averaged ratings for the 20 weeknights for Jeopardy will no doubt suffer...
Let me put this in perspective for you. For my large tv market (Hartford/New Haven), Jeopardy was the highest rated show yesterday. Better than Prime time, better than daytime, better than the news. NOTHING came close. Back in July, CSI was a distant second.
Adding tourneys in there to get Ken to stay for the duration of November is brilliant...
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[quote name=\'JRaygor\' date=\'Sep 10 2004, 09:15 AM\'] By my calculations, the alleged 75th episode for Ken will occur on Tuesday, November 2nd ! Which means, this could be the headline in the papers: "Bush and Kerry both lose in 0-0 tie. America would rather watch Ken Jennings. Ralph Nader elected president with 3 votes": )
-Joe R. [/quote]
But if the networks have Election Night extended coverage, the show might well not air in a lot of places -- except very late!
So we'll have two real big losers that night -- only one has $2.5m to his name. (The other could be richer by billions if the right people die -- or not.)
And Scott, I finally caught your act yesterday. It's comforting that anyone wants to marry Barker, they gotta go through you first.
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[quote name=\'Robair\' date=\'Sep 10 2004, 11:53 AM\'] But if the networks have Election Night extended coverage, the show might well not air in a lot of places -- except very late! [/quote]
According to this (http://\"http://www.thegreenpapers.com/G04/closing.phtml?format=mc\") page, only 11 states will have closed their polls before 8PM ET, so there's not a lot of point to the broadcast nets going on before then (the cable nets are another story). That site also suggests that 8PM ET is the earliest time a projected winner could be named (and that's assuming a lot, given how close this election could wind up being).
OTOH, West Coasters could have a problem (if the broadcast nets go live there at 5PM PT).
And Robair also stole my thunder regarding Scott's TPiR on-camera. I had seen it when I was in L.A. on its original airdate (6/16/04--I had gone to the 6/15 taping, which airs two weeks from yesterday). Nice job of watching Bob's back, Scott!
Doug
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[quote name=\'CaseyAbell\' date=\'Sep 10 2004, 08:41 AM\'] A Washington Post story (http://\"http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A10325-2004Sep9.html\") today adds some fuel to the KJ fire.
All the conspiracy theories only add to the fun, of course. [/quote]
Here's sort of a conspiracy theory. Notice the amount on Ken's podium on the promotional picture from the Washington Post article. Ken is rumored to have lost after winning 75 consectutive games - meaning that the show he loses on is his 76th appearance... So in this picture, they might have just made every game "worth" $100, hence the meaning of $7,600 on the display. Maybe, maybe not, but interesting nonetheless.
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Makes me want to build a time machine and spoil the results of the World Series right now.
Already did that. The Red Sox played the Cubs, and they both lost. They couldn't stand to break either of the curses.
So in this picture, they might have just made every game "worth" $100, hence the meaning of $7,600 on the display.
That theory was already floated when the Prof ran the picture.
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[quote name=\'MYosua\' date=\'Sep 10 2004, 01:13 PM\'] [quote name=\'CaseyAbell\' date=\'Sep 10 2004, 08:41 AM\'] A Washington Post story (http://\"http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A10325-2004Sep9.html\") today adds some fuel to the KJ fire.
All the conspiracy theories only add to the fun, of course. [/quote]
Here's sort of a conspiracy theory. Notice the amount on Ken's podium on the promotional picture from the Washington Post article. Ken is rumored to have lost after winning 75 consectutive games - meaning that the show he loses on is his 76th appearance... So in this picture, they might have just made every game "worth" $100, hence the meaning of $7,600 on the display. Maybe, maybe not, but interesting nonetheless. [/quote]
I thought it was said he lost in his 75th game, after winning 74. Anyway, I have a different explanation for this. Over at that blog where this whole mess got started, it was said that Ken had less then $10,000 after he had been beaten. I know this sounds far-fetched, but could it be that the said picture was taken after the defeat? Just a thought.
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[quote name=\'adamjk\' date=\'Sep 10 2004, 03:06 PM\'] I thought it was said he lost in his 75th game, after winning 74. Anyway, I have a different explanation for this. Over at that blog where this whole mess got started, it was said that Ken had less then $10,000 after he had been beaten. I know this sounds far-fetched, but could it be that the said picture was taken after the defeat? Just a thought. [/quote]
I didn't realize that the picture was already commented on. But anyway, the Post article says he lost after his 75th win, and I don't think the $7,600 would be a coincidence. Seeing as it was a promotional picture instead of a picture taken during a game, it was most likely set-up.
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[quote name=\'adamjk\' date=\'Sep 10 2004, 02:06 PM\'] Over at that blog where this whole mess got started, it was said that Ken had less then $10,000 after he had been beaten. I know this sounds far-fetched, but could it be that the said picture was taken after the defeat? [/quote]
Said picture appeared on Stosh's site on Monday. Said defeat happened during one of the said shows which were taped on said Tuesday. And that takes care of said conjecture.
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What was Ken's score going into the first commercial break on his first show? What was it going into Double Jeopardy? What was Ken wearing on his first day?
Ken's certainly a special case, but often shows with returning champions take photos of contestants with the host during their first show - after all, there may not be a second.
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I doubt this is from his first appearance - look at the way he wrote his name. I think he wrote it out normally on his first appearance.
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And his score was $8,000 at the end of the J! round, when the photos are taken.
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BTW, Channel 7 in New York - which carries "Jeopardy!" - did a news tease on the Jennings thing during its football game last night.
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Here's a story I found at yahoo on this:
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...pagesix/nokendo (http://\"http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/pagesix/20040910/en_pagesix/nokendo\")
Not a whole lot of new info here, though one thing I found interesting, and pretty much sells me that this is true, is that in the article Steve Beverly mentions he received 183 emails all confirming he did indeed lose. If that doesn't sell people who don't buy this, then nothing will.
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[quote name=\'adamjk\' date=\'Sep 10 2004, 05:57 PM\'] Not a whole lot of new info here, though one thing I found interesting, and pretty much sells me that this is true, is that in the article Steve Beverly mentions he received 183 emails all confirming he did indeed lose. If that doesn't sell people who don't buy this, then nothing will. [/quote]
Well, it was probably 183 e-mails all linking back to the kottke story or a link to a link to the kottke story.
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Merv discusses Ken (http://\"http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=494&ncid=763&e=4&u=/ap/20040910/ap_en_tv/tv_jeopardy_griffin\")
In the article, Merv says he hasn't met Ken Jennings, but would like to.
"I think he's great. He's humble — a smart, nice kid. And I think he would like to meet the creator of 'Jeopardy.'"
He also discusses the rule changes over the years and says that Ken's feat is amazing.
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[quote name=\'adamjk\' date=\'Sep 10 2004, 02:57 PM\'] is that in the article Steve Beverly mentions he received 183 emails all confirming he did indeed lose. If that doesn't sell people who don't buy this, then nothing will. [/quote]
I've received 183 emails insisting I can have a lower mortgage rate and a bigger penis. I don't even HAVE a mortgage.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Sep 10 2004, 05:25 PM\'] I've received 183 emails insisting I can have a lower mortgage rate and a bigger penis. I don't even HAVE a mortgage. [/quote]
(looks up "transitive property")
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Sep 10 2004, 07:25 PM\'] [quote name=\'adamjk\' date=\'Sep 10 2004, 02:57 PM\'] is that in the article Steve Beverly mentions he received 183 emails all confirming he did indeed lose. If that doesn't sell people who don't buy this, then nothing will. [/quote]
I've received 183 emails insisting I can have a lower mortgage rate and a bigger penis. I don't even HAVE a mortgage. [/quote]
Do you have a --never mind.
And of course, Steve Beverly is the authortative figure on game shows. Some hack could easily send 183 emails...Steve wouldn't care, just so long as his website gets attention.
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[quote name=\'Dsmith\' date=\'Sep 11 2004, 02:41 AM\'] And of course, Steve Beverly is the authortative figure on game shows. Some hack could easily send 183 emails...Steve wouldn't care, just so long as his website gets attention. [/quote]
Actually, he's not the authoritative figure on game shows, according to the New York Post, his site is the "online bible" for game show addicts.
Pretty strong words, I think...
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I read that article as Steve saying that he received 183 emails REQUESTING confirmation that Ken lost, not GIVING confirmation...
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[quote name=\'OntarioQuizzer\' date=\'Sep 11 2004, 12:16 PM\'] I read that article as Steve saying that he received 183 emails REQUESTING confirmation that Ken lost, not GIVING confirmation... [/quote]
I read it as saying that Steve is pregnant.