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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: clemon79 on July 09, 2003, 01:57:09 PM
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I've been trying to learn Visual C++ over the last few weeks, and as a first project I'm trying to write a Windows version of the Jeopardy Challenger. It's coming along pretty good, but I'm getting to the point where I'm writing the code for the Daily Double and Final Jeopardy buttons, and I need to know what the minimum wager for a Daily Double is.
I don't need any \"I think it's...\" or \"I believes...\". Obviously I have an idea myself. But if I know FOR SURE what the minimum DD wager is, then I can plunge forward knowing I am at least using good information.
Thanks for the help!
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$5 is the minimum DD wager.
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[quote name=\'Casey Buck\' date=\'Jul 9 2003, 11:41 AM\'] $5 is the minimum DD wager. [/quote]
That's what I thought, but I needed confirmation. Thanks muchly! :)
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To make super-extra-special sure, I asked at the Jeopardy board. Casey's spot-on.
http://boards.sonypictures.com/boards/show...?threadid=79997 (http://\"http://boards.sonypictures.com/boards/showthread.php?threadid=79997\")
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Hey, I only remembered it in my head! :) I did do a quick Google Groups search just to be sure.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Jul 9 2003, 12:33 PM\'] To make super-extra-special sure, I asked at the Jeopardy board. Casey's spot-on.
http://boards.sonypictures.com/boards/show...?threadid=79997 (http://\"http://boards.sonypictures.com/boards/showthread.php?threadid=79997\") [/quote]
Doubly good. I'm not _too_ far from having a working 1.0 prototype available for people to noodle with (assuming that passing data back to the main form from a dialogue box isn't too difficult)...I'll post it in the Downloads section on FredSmythe.com and spread the word here when I have something ready.
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[quote name=\'Casey Buck\' date=\'Jul 9 2003, 01:41 PM\']$5 is the minimum DD wager.[/quote]
I'm curious. Why is the minimum $5? Why not $1? I mean, if you can bet $1 in Final Jeopardy, why can't you do the same on a Daily Double?
Dean Scungio
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[quote name=\'dscungio\' date=\'Jul 9 2003, 08:40 PM\']I'm curious. Why is the minimum $5? Why not $1? I mean, if you can bet $1 in Final Jeopardy, why can't you do the same on a Daily Double?[/quote]
Not to disparage your overall question, but you can bet $0 in Final Jeopardy! as well.
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[quote name=\'dscungio\' date=\'Jul 9 2003, 08:40 PM\'] [quote name=\'Casey Buck\' date=\'Jul 9 2003, 01:41 PM\']$5 is the minimum DD wager.[/quote]
I'm curious. Why is the minimum $5? [/quote]
Completely uneducated guess: five dollars also was the minimum in the original version, as it was one-half the lowest amount on the board in those days.
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[quote name=\'GS Warehouse\' date=\'Jul 9 2003, 07:30 PM\'] Completely uneducated guess: five dollars also was the minimum in the original version, as it was one-half the lowest amount on the board in those days. [/quote]
Just offhand here: You know what I like about Jeopardy contestants?
Anyone moronic enough to wager \"$420\" on a Daily Double isn't smart enough to pass the contestant exam in the first place.
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This detail escapes me: What happens if a Daily Double is hit when a contestant has a negative score? Can they wager a positive amount of their negative score (IOW a contestant has -400, can they wager $400?)?
Chris L.: How do you like Visual C++?
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[quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'Jul 9 2003, 10:06 PM\'] This detail escapes me: What happens if a Daily Double is hit when a contestant has a negative score? Can they wager a positive amount of their negative score (IOW a contestant has -400, can they wager $400?)?
Chris L.: How do you like Visual C++? [/quote]
They can always risk the board maximum. Therefore, if one had -$400 in Jeopardy!, they can risk a grand, and in Double Jeopardy!, they can risk two grand.
Brandon Brooks
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If a contestant has a positive dollar score that is less than the maximum amount on the board in a round, the player can bet up to that maximum amount.
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[quote name=\'Chris319\' date=\'Jul 9 2003,08:06 PM\']Chris L.: How do you like Visual C++?[/quote]
Well, see, here's what I thought I was gonna do: When I was programming in high school, I was taught Pascal. So I understand Pascal syntax pretty well. So I figured, hey, C++ isn't THAT far removed from Pascal, I'll pick up the Visual one, get a nice book, and I'll be writing Windows apps in no time.
After about three days two realities came to mind:
1) \"C++\" and \"Visual C++\" are two distinctly different programming techniques.
2) This is NOT the way to learn C++.
So I'm fumbling. This is the first time I've programmed in a Windows environment, and it's nothing like I've ever used before. Mind you, it's a really neat programming environment, but it assumes you know C++ going in. This evening I spent much of the night building the wager boxes for Daily Doubles and Final Jeopardy (easy, but involved to do it right), and hit the wall trying to figure out how to get whatever they type into that box back to the main form and converted into an integer so I can use it. Oh. THEN I have to figure out how to reprimand the user if they wager more or less than is legal.
A Dummies book may be in my future. :)
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Just offhand here: You know what I like about Jeopardy contestants?
Anyone moronic enough to wager \"$420\" on a Daily Double isn't smart enough to pass the contestant exam in the first place.
You say this in an era where college tourney contestants leave themselves with $69 when they miss Final Jeopardy?
You're getting old, man.
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[quote name=\'parliboy\' date=\'Jul 9 2003, 11:15 PM\'] You say this in an era where college tourney contestants leave themselves with $69 when they miss Final Jeopardy?
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Good point. I'm talking regular play, tho. It's pretty clear they'll let any jackass into the niche tournaments. :)
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[cheap shot in jest]
Exactly! I mean, look what kind of weirdos they let win 70 grand in the Hollywood Squares tourneys!
[/csij]
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hey, C++ isn't THAT far removed from Pascal, I'll pick up the Visual one, get a nice book, and I'll be writing Windows apps in no time.
Mmmm hmmm.
After about three days two realities came to mind:
1) \"C++\" and \"Visual C++\" are two distinctly different programming techniques.
2) This is NOT the way to learn C++.
Heavy intoxication might be the way.
So I'm fumbling. This is the first time I've programmed in a Windows environment, and it's nothing like I've ever used before. Mind you, it's a really neat programming environment, but it assumes you know C++ going in. This evening I spent much of the night building the wager boxes for Daily Doubles and Final Jeopardy (easy, but involved to do it right), and hit the wall trying to figure out how to get whatever they type into that box back to the main form and converted into an integer so I can use it. Oh. THEN I have to figure out how to reprimand the user if they wager more or less than is legal.
I don't know why you're bothering with Visual C++ or anything ++. The boys at CBS Electronics do some very nice work in Visual BASIC, or you could try a language called Euphoria. Someone once said C++ belongs in the garbage can, and poor garbage can. C is the language that fights you. That's why I unashamedly endorse BASIC.
How's that for topic drift?
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[quote name=\'parliboy\' date=\'Jul 10 2003, 12:47 PM\'] [cheap shot in jest]
Exactly! I mean, look what kind of weirdos they let win 70 grand in the Hollywood Squares tourneys!
[/csij] [/quote]
You ain't lying. That kid was nuts.
Brandon Brooks
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[quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'Jul 10 2003, 04:06 PM\']C is the language that fights you. That's why I unashamedly endorse BASIC.[/quote]
If you're trying to ride a horse, and it's fighting you, you should turn instead to a pogo stick?
More than two fish in that particular ocean . . .
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[quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' date=\'Jul 10 2003, 05:16 PM\'] If you're trying to ride a horse, and it's fighting you, you should turn instead to a pogo stick?
More than two fish in that particular ocean . . . [/quote]
Robert and Chris both have good points. Visual Basic is powerful, no question, but I've been wanting to learn C++ for a long time, and the fact that a Visual version exists and I can use it to make Windows apps just like the pros do is another draw. I'm sure I will look at VB down the line (or maybe sooner, depending on what it's going for at the Company Store) 'cuz it would probably be easier to whip up small apps quickly.
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If you're trying to ride a horse, and it's fighting you, you should turn instead to a pogo stick?
When was the last time you got into a fight with a pogo stick? ;-)
I'm not writing an operating system or a language compiler. For most of the stuff I do BASIC gets the job done with a minimum of muss and fuss. It's come a long way since BASICA and GWBASIC.
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[quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'Jul 10 2003, 10:10 PM\']When was the last time you got into a fight with a pogo stick? ;-)[/quote]
When was the last time you traveled anywhere via pogo stick? But, of course, you already knew that was my point. :-P
I encountered copious amounts of both muss and fuss during my time spent with (modern) BASIC. I'm glad you've been more fortunate. I used up all my luck on this Win98 machine that almost never crashes.