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The Game Show Forum => Game Show Channels & Networks => Topic started by: digiblader on March 16, 2004, 07:18:28 PM
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I was watching LMAD today, and was particularly annoyed that they shrank the show to a 1/9th window(or something like that) and aired their promos until the show ended! That's terrible.
Only one day, and I'm already angered at those new promos of GSN. Please let us at least see those little deals Monty Hall does at the end of every LMAD ep.!
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Well, it's annoying, but it could be worse. At least, Combs Feud has the closings included.
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[quote name=\'adamjk\' date=\'Mar 16 2004, 07:27 PM\'] Well, it's annoying, but it could be worse. At least, Combs Feud has the closings included. [/quote]
Early in the run of Combs Feud(CBS and SYndie), they didn't have contestant phone number graphics on screen when Ray did his goodbye. That will change about a year into the run. When the phone number graphics appear on the screen, GSN will cut out the goodbye.
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Ah, never knew that. I still don't understand why GSN couldn't just do what they do, when Millionaire is on. Put up a do not call graphic over the number. It can't be that hard, I think I will give them a call and suggest they do this.
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Well, I called and made the suggestion. I also cited the Millionaire show and the fact that they use a do not call graphic for that show. When I asked why they couldn't do the same for all the rest of the shows they have, I was told that GSN doesn't really have the rights to Millionaire. They get the shows that they air, sent to them. I guess the company that sends out the tapes(I assume it to be Buena Vista), added in the do not call thing themselves. As for why they don't do it for any of the other shows they have, the person who I spoke with, didn't really have an answer. She said she would be glad to pass on the suggestion to the programming department. I tried to speak with someone from the programming department, but they were in a meeting.
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[quote name=\'adamjk\' date=\'Mar 16 2004, 06:12 PM\'] As for why they don't do it for any of the other shows they have, the person who I spoke with, didn't really have an answer. [/quote]
Because she's a receptionist.
She said she would be glad to pass on the suggestion to the programming department.
*snicker* I bet she did.
I tried to speak with someone from the programming department, but they were in a meeting.
*giggle* I bet they were. :)
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Someone complained in another thread about how they aired enough promos during the credits during World Series of Blackjack to make the credits stay unreadable during the entire crawl. My response: it could be worse. I was fully expecting generic credits, like other networks use. Secondly, think about this: casual viewers couldn't care less who WSoBj's gaffer is. H***, most of us who aren't in the biz don't even know what a gaffer is!
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It all boils down to the people working at GSN. It is apparent that they are not game show fans, and could care less about what airs. I am sure they don't think twice about throwing a promo over the fee plus and now the full credits. No one really reads those anyway! <GUILTY>
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[quote name=\'GS Warehouse\' date=\'Mar 16 2004, 10:27 PM\'] Someone complained in another thread about how they aired enough promos during the credits during World Series of Blackjack to make the credits stay unreadable during the entire crawl. My response: it could be worse. I was fully expecting generic credits, like other networks use. Secondly, think about this: casual viewers couldn't care less who WSoBj's gaffer is. H***, most of us who aren't in the biz don't even know what a gaffer is! [/quote]
You would think the unions involved would force the nets to make the credits readable. Yes, no one except the gaffer and his family cares if his name is on there, but why have credits at all if they cannot be read?
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[quote name=\'adamjk\' date=\'Mar 16 2004, 07:52 PM\']Ah, never knew that. I still don't understand why GSN couldn't just do what they do, when Millionaire is on. Put up a do not call graphic over the number. It can't be that hard, I think I will give them a call and suggest they do this.[/quote]
...Or just cover up the number(s) on the Feud with SOMETHING! I don't care if it's a "black box," just as long as we get to see the "Goodbye."
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[quote name=\'adamjk\' date=\'Mar 16 2004, 07:52 PM\'] Ah, never knew that. I still don't understand why GSN couldn't just do what they do, when Millionaire is on. Put up a do not call graphic over the number. It can't be that hard, I think I will give them a call and suggest they do this. [/quote]
Exactly...worked just fine when USA did the very same thing.
Two other instances that came to mind:
1. Occasionally, Ray would ask for the contestant plug while at the faceoff podium (right before a question). I'd love to see how they would edit that out...
2. IIRC, Eubanks CS would have Lacey or Susannah do the contestant plug in front of the board, by flipping over a large card. I don't remember if this was done during rounds, or during an independent segment.
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Mar 17 2004, 11:27 AM\']
1. Occasionally, Ray would ask for the contestant plug while at the faceoff podium (right before a question). I'd love to see how they would edit that out...
2. IIRC, Eubanks CS would have Lacey or Susannah do the contestant plug in front of the board, by flipping over a large card. I don't remember if this was done during rounds, or during an independent segment. [/quote]
They'd probably join Feud with Ray and the contestants at the podium just before he is about to ask the question, but just after the contestant plug.
As far as EUbanks CS, sometimes they'll show the last split second of the ticket plug, which would have been done just coming out of a commercial break. On one airing a few months ago, a ticket/contestant/poll plug(one of those) was left in.
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They get the shows that they air, sent to them. I guess the company that sends out the tapes(I assume it to be Buena Vista), added in the do not call thing themselves.
It's possible. Just before "Millionaire" joined GSN, there was news that they were "re-editing" the shows. The "do not call" bug is probably part of the re-editing.
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[quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Mar 17 2004, 11:57 AM\']They'd probably join Feud with Ray and the contestants at the podium just before he is about to ask the question, but just after the contestant plug.
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That's also how GSN has handled it with the Dawson version on occasions where he let a contestant read the plug. They've sometimes picked up right after the contestant finishes reading the information card, with Richard then handing it to someone offstage.
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On GSN's first day of being on Cable TV, they just let the Dawson's Feud ticket plug to be kept intact and leave it alone and they continued to show Dawson's Feud ticket plugs until around 1999 at the same time as they started doing the split screens.
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[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' date=\'Mar 17 2004, 12:16 PM\']
They get the shows that they air, sent to them. I guess the company that sends out the tapes(I assume it to be Buena Vista), added in the do not call thing themselves.
It's possible. Just before "Millionaire" joined GSN, there was news that they were "re-editing" the shows. The "do not call" bug is probably part of the re-editing. [/quote]
That kind of re-editing was done by Sandy Frank and Co. when Lange NTT was put in reruns. When the month of shows from November 1984 featuring the home viewer sweepstakes was shown in reruns, there'd be a graphic saying "Recorded earlier, this contest is no longer current"
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Mar 16 2004, 11:00 PM\'][quote name=\'GS Warehouse\' date=\'Mar 16 2004, 10:27 PM\'] Someone complained in another thread about how they aired enough promos during the credits during World Series of Blackjack to make the credits stay unreadable during the entire crawl. My response: it could be worse. I was fully expecting generic credits, like other networks use. Secondly, think about this: casual viewers couldn't care less who WSoBj's gaffer is. H***, most of us who aren't in the biz don't even know what a gaffer is! [/quote]
You would think the unions involved would force the nets to make the credits readable. Yes, no one except the gaffer and his family cares if his name is on there, but why have credits at all if they cannot be read?[/quote]
1. A lot of the original shows, past and present, don't use union crews.
2. I sort of brought this up on another board and was told that the unions don't like it, but have other irons in the fire that are of a higher importance, like wages, benefits, working conditions, etc. Credits appearance is strictly a low priority--and I have the feeling that the average technician doesn't really care if his mother can read his name at the end of the show, as long as he gets his pay check and health insurance benefits.
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I, too, think this new way of 'credt-crunching' is going too far. At least Black & White Overnight is still being spared this; and that's the only reason I'm still hanging on. But if we know GSN, it won't be long before even B&WO finally becomes a victim of the 'credt-crunch!'
Cordially,
Tammy Warner--the 'Nancy Myers of the Big Board!'
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I have a feeling the "credit crunches" will get worse. First, the split screens, then the two boxes with the green background. At that point, I didn't think it could get any worse, but it did. I wonder what they'll think of next. :'(
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Something close to the things the big networks do with credits for more shows nowadays, put all the credits on a list to the left or right with promos of various shows until the credits complete.
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[quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Mar 17 2004, 06:13 PM\'] Credits appearance is strictly a low priority--and I have the feeling that the average technician doesn't really care if his mother can read his name at the end of the show, as long as he gets his pay check and health insurance benefits. [/quote]
You're probably right, but if I ever worked on a show, I'd like the credit. That way you can prove you did indeed work on the show. Remember the NBC clips specials? A good number of folks on the old newsgroup contributed (I did not) but only a couple of people were singled out by name for that network credit simply by being at the top and bottom of the contributor's list.
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You're probably right, but if I ever worked on a show, I'd like the credit. That way you can prove you did indeed work on the show.
The first few times I saw my name on a show's credits it was a big deal, but after a while I'd seen it so many times I just checked occasionally to make sure it was spelled right!
It's a shame that TV has come to this though. I've always been a credit-watcher, whether it's game shows, sitcoms, or even theatrical movies. Whenever my wife and I see a movie in the theatre, we're always the last two there because I'm watching every credit, and everyone else has left!
In the old days it was neat to just "clap" along to the theme song, or even watch the names go by. I miss that. At least with TVLand they still have the theme audio in the background. This is something I wish GSN would do - if they have to run the promos, fine, but at least leave the audio of the show that's ending in the backgroud.
How long do you think it will be before we don't even get the 20% screen shot of the close? I could see them cutting out right after the hosts goodbye eventually.
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I'll say. These split-screens are getting annoying.
Can't they do their promos in the background, like they did in the old days? That would be SO MUCH EASIER.