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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: BrandonFG on May 09, 2023, 06:48:00 PM
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According to Howard Stutz, the site will become the new home of the A's once they leave Oakland. Las Vegas Gambit and the first couple years of Brady's LMAD taped at the Trop.
https://twitter.com/LasVegasLocally/status/1656052212572000257
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CBS Sports report (https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/oakland-to-vegas-as-reach-deal-to-build-stadium-at-tropicana-las-vegas-per-report/).
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The Tropicana hotel was also the original home for Dealer's Choice.
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The Oakland A's are definitely moving to Toronto.
The Oakland A's are definitely moving to Chicago.
The Oakland A's are definitely moving to Denver.
The Oakland A's are definitely moving to San Jose.
The Oakland A's are definitely moving to Fremont.
The Oakland A's are definitely staying in Oakland and getting a new ballpark.
The Oakland A's are definitely staying in Oakland and getting a new ballpark, no not that one, different spot this time.
As of less than three weeks ago, the Oakland Athletics were definitely moving to Las Vegas because they had entered into a "binding" agreement to purchase a different plot of land than the Tropicana for the new ballpark.
What I'm saying is, believe the Tropicana is heading out and the A's are moving in no sooner than the explosives get detonated, and probably not before the first pitch gets thrown.
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What I'm saying is, believe the Tropicana is heading out and the A's are moving in no sooner than the explosives get detonated, and probably not before the first pitch gets thrown.
I agree with this. I'm very skeptical of anything actually happening with the team in Las Vegas.
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The Tropicana is also where a lot of us participated in TCONA, The Trivia Championships of North America, for several years.
It's also home to Rich Little's little residency, which last I heard was still going semi-strong. Someone should probably tell him.
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FYI, here is what I came up with as far as games shows shot in Vegas:
THE TROPICANA -- Soon to be demolished???
DEALER'S CHOICE -- partial run
LAS VEGAS GAMBIT -- entire run
LET'S MAKE A DEAL (Brady) -- first season
THE RIVIERA -- Demolished
HOLLYWOOD SQUARES (Marshall) -- Partial syndicated run
(The original) LAS VEGAS HILTON -- Now known as The Westgate Las Vegas
LET'S MAKE A DEAL (Hall) -- Partial syndicated run
CAESAR'S PALACE -- Still in business
CAESAR'S CHALLENGE
Unless I am missing a show or two, if/when the Trop comes down, Caesar's will be the only current named hotel that once hosted a televised game show. I put an asterisk next to The Westgate, as it was the LV Hilton up until about 10 years ago.
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Caesar's Palace is still around, but the Circus Maximus theater (where CC was taped) is now defunct.
Where was the tent where Millionaire was taped located during the Vegas years?
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WWTBAM recorded its first Vegas season inside Bally's before moving to "Caesars Entertainment Studios" -- aka "the giant tent behind Bally's."
Catch-21 also taped its Vegas episodes in said tent.
JD
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If we include theme weeks, Wheel taped its Vegas episodes at the Venetian.
J! taped at the 2009 CES held in Vegas, and unveiled its new set.
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TPiR taped its 30th Anniversary primetime special at the Rio in Vegas as well.
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WWTBAM recorded its first Vegas season inside Bally's before moving to "Caesars Entertainment Studios" -- aka "the giant tent behind Bally's."
Catch-21 also taped its Vegas episodes in said tent.
That tent is where most of GSN and/or BattleBots lives now.
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That tent is where most of GSN and/or BattleBots lives now.
Unless there's a joke I'm missing, I believe the only GSN productions to use the space were the revival of Catch 21 and the first season of Get a Clue.
-Jason
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Didn't Master Minds and/or America Says tape in Vegas at one point? I remember conversing with someone else from the Forum about how GSN's shows looked like they were shot in an airplane hangar, and we came to the conclusion that that was the tent.
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Didn't Master Minds and/or America Says tape in Vegas at one point?
I thought Best Ever Trivia Show might have, but I couldn't confirm. My bigger rebuttal is that the pandemic-and-subsequent seasons of America Says, Master Minds, Common Knowledge, Tug of Words, etc. were all in SoCal. I believe Get a Clue season 2 was also supposed to be Vegas, but ended up in LA as well.
-Jason
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The Oakland A's are definitely moving to Toronto.
The Oakland A's are definitely moving to Chicago.
The Oakland A's are definitely moving to Denver.
The Oakland A's are definitely moving to San Jose.
The Oakland A's are definitely moving to Fremont.
The Oakland A's are definitely staying in Oakland and getting a new ballpark.
The Oakland A's are definitely staying in Oakland and getting a new ballpark, no not that one, different spot this time.
You got Fremont and San Jose backwards. First was the version of Cisco Field in Fremont (but not along the BART line, no, that would have made too much sense!), then was the South Bay version on a postage-stamp sized parcel of land a few blocks down from SAP Center that never had a prayer because no way no how were the Giants going to cede their territorial rights.
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Unlike Oakland Athletics ownership, I regret the error.
(The "Charlie Finley hates Oakland and his team" era is nuts to the point of being incomprehensible in the modern game and business of baseball. He proposed moving the A's to Comiskey at one point in exchange for the White Sox skipping out to Seattle. While his players were winning multiple World Series.)
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There's a long article in this year's Baseball Prospectus (which I think is online, but it's behind a paywall) that explains neither Oakland nor Las Vegas wants to shell out the money for a new stadium for the Athletics under current ownership. They've undoubtedly seen what's happened in Pittsburgh and Miami, where cities paid for new stadiums under the assumption ownership would then go wild spending money to attract high-quality ballplayers to bring championships to those locales, only to discover the owners had no such intentions.
EDIT: Here it is.
https://www.baseballprospectus.com/news/article/81465/as-fans-are-still-dreaming-of-the-end-of-moneyball/ (https://www.baseballprospectus.com/news/article/81465/as-fans-are-still-dreaming-of-the-end-of-moneyball/)
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Found the website for the tent
https://www.caesars.com/caesars-entertainment-studios
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There's a long article in this year's Baseball Prospectus (which I think is online, but it's behind a paywall) that explains neither Oakland nor Las Vegas wants to shell out the money for a new stadium for the Athletics under current ownership. They've undoubtedly seen what's happened in Pittsburgh and Miami, where cities paid for new stadiums under the assumption ownership would then go wild spending money to attract high-quality ballplayers to bring championships to those locales, only to discover the owners had no such intentions.
EDIT: Here it is.
https://www.baseballprospectus.com/news/article/81465/as-fans-are-still-dreaming-of-the-end-of-moneyball/ (https://www.baseballprospectus.com/news/article/81465/as-fans-are-still-dreaming-of-the-end-of-moneyball/)
There's also been a strengthening movement among taxpayers in the last decade to vote "no" on any public funding for sports stadiums in general. When the decision is made by local governments or the legislature (Tennessee's new NFL stadium) they're still going through, but left to the voters the word is no fairly often - it's entirely possible that the Coyotes are about to lose a vote for a new NHL stadium in Tempe. (which would likely cost the market the team)
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it's entirely possible that the Coyotes are about to lose a vote for a new NHL stadium in Tempe. (which would likely cost the market the team)
No it won't. Bettman will burn in hell before he admits Arizona was a failure, even though he's gotten what he ultimately wanted out of that whole debacle.
I'd say good on the locals for calling the team's bluff.
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it's entirely possible that the Coyotes are about to lose a vote for a new NHL stadium in Tempe. (which would likely cost the market the team)
I have been following the tragicomic saga of the Coyotes for about 15 godforskaen years now, and I am telling you that if a meteor came down and wiped out the entirety of the state of Arizona, Gary Bettman would find a way to put a rink for the Coyotes in that smoldering hole.
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it's entirely possible that the Coyotes are about to lose a vote for a new NHL stadium in Tempe. (which would likely cost the market the team)
No it won't. Bettman will burn in hell
This feels decidedly win-win.
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This feels decidedly win-win.
You're not wrong, but ultimately the Coyotes would still be in Arizona.
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it's entirely possible that the Coyotes are about to lose a vote for a new NHL stadium in Tempe. (which would likely cost the market the team)
No it won't. Bettman will burn in hell
This feels decidedly win-win.
I'm just pulling for a Leafs-Oilers Stanley Cup final to see Bettman's wonderful reaction of two Canadian teams of which only one is a "large" market...
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TNT has the rights to the Final this year, and if it's Edmonton-Florida that series is getting dumped onto HBO Max in a subfolder of 90 Day Fiancee.
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I'm just pulling for a Leafs-Oilers Stanley Cup final to see Bettman's wonderful reaction of two Canadian teams of which only one is a "large" market...
Except in this bizarro universe, you get the Panthers and Golden Showers, and Bettman be like:
(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/EquatorialArtisticAmericantoad-max-1mb.gif)
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Monopoly Millionaires' Club taped inside a tent setup at The Rio for its first season. Then later moved into its own custom-built soundstage next to Bally's for it's second season.
-Dan
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Monopoly Millionaires' Club taped inside a tent setup at The Rio for its first season. Then later moved into its own custom-built soundstage next to Bally's for it's second season.
-Dan
While the Venetian Hotel (home of that other multi-state lottery game show, Powerball Instant Millionaire) is still there as well.
/Fingers crossed for an NBA franchise in Vegas next…
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/Fingers crossed for an NBA franchise in Vegas next…
Seattle’s getting the next team, count on it. Vegas is prolly next.
/Would love to see the Virginia Squires return
//Wonder if Silver would be open to 34 or 36 teams instead of 32?
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/Fingers crossed for an NBA franchise in Vegas next…
Seattle’s getting the next team, count on it. Vegas is prolly next.
I don't follow the NBA, but weren't we supposed to get a team ten years ago, and the NBA nixed it? Or something like that?
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The Sacramento Kings. The Maloof brothers - assholes that they are - first used Virginia Beach and then Seattle as leverage in order to get a new arena. I believe they’ve since sold the team and of course the Kings stayed in Cali.
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The Sacramento Kings. The Maloof brothers - assholes that they are - first used Virginia Beach and then Seattle as leverage in order to get a new arena. I believe they’ve since sold the team and of course the Kings stayed in Cali.
They also attempted a sale to Anaheim that got scuttled last-minute.
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Seattle’s getting the next team, count on it. Vegas is prolly next.
If Vegas wants cuts, that's fine. Really.
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There's a long article in this year's Baseball Prospectus (which I think is online, but it's behind a paywall) that explains neither Oakland nor Las Vegas wants to shell out the money for a new stadium for the Athletics under current ownership. They've undoubtedly seen what's happened in Pittsburgh and Miami, where cities paid for new stadiums under the assumption ownership would then go wild spending money to attract high-quality ballplayers to bring championships to those locales, only to discover the owners had no such intentions.
EDIT: Here it is.
https://www.baseballprospectus.com/news/article/81465/as-fans-are-still-dreaming-of-the-end-of-moneyball/ (https://www.baseballprospectus.com/news/article/81465/as-fans-are-still-dreaming-of-the-end-of-moneyball/)
There's also been a strengthening movement among taxpayers in the last decade to vote "no" on any public funding for sports stadiums in general. When the decision is made by local governments or the legislature (Tennessee's new NFL stadium) they're still going through, but left to the voters the word is no fairly often - it's entirely possible that the Coyotes are about to lose a vote for a new NHL stadium in Tempe. (which would likely cost the market the team)
I surely hope so. Over the last three days, the Chicago Bears, who have been assumed to be headed toward the suburb Arlington Heights for over a year, have seemingly pivoted (after being told the tax assessment on the property they want has dramatically increased) toward Naperville -- which is where I live. (Although I live a 20-minute drive from the property presumed to be in question, I don't know anybody that particularly wants the Bears here.)
https://www.nbcchicago.com/investigations/the-chicago-bears-battle-over-arlington-heights-property-taxes-explained/3154133/ (https://www.nbcchicago.com/investigations/the-chicago-bears-battle-over-arlington-heights-property-taxes-explained/3154133/)
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It is hilarious that the Bears think they've uncovered some great leverage by paying $200 million for land in one suburb, then saying they'll buy land in a different suburb and build a stadium there if the tax environment proves more favorable. As if no one who lives in the seven-county area is wholly familiar with how the Bears spend money.
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So it appears Vegas's mayor isn't exactly all-in on the A's moving to Sin City, at least not on the Strip.
“I’ve lived in this town this year 60 years, and so I know the town like the back of my hand,” Goodman said of Las Vegas. “I personally think they’ve got to figure out a way to stay in Oakland and make their dream come true.”
https://sports.yahoo.com/las-vegas-mayor-on-as-planned-relocation-to-desert-theyve-got-to-figure-out-a-way-to-stay-in-oakland-002242471.html
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The Strip isn’t in Las Vegas proper, so she doesn’t get much benefit from the team moving.
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The Strip isn’t in Las Vegas proper, so she doesn’t get much benefit from the team moving.
Actually, Paradise NV, where the Strip is located, is governed by the Clark County Commission, which means some of that revenue is making its way back to Las Vegas proper. Even if she didn't get any benefit, a good number of her constituents work on the strip. If she's hearing grumblings about this stadium from them, she could curry favor by making a comment like this.
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It is hilarious that the Bears think they've uncovered some great leverage by paying $200 million for land in one suburb, then saying they'll buy land in a different suburb and build a stadium there if the tax environment proves more favorable. As if no one who lives in the seven-county area is wholly familiar with how the Bears spend money.
The same team that lived and died by the "run and shoop" offense...nevermind the smoke of moving to Comiskey.
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There's a long article in this year's Baseball Prospectus (which I think is online, but it's behind a paywall) that explains neither Oakland nor Las Vegas wants to shell out the money for a new stadium for the Athletics under current ownership. They've undoubtedly seen what's happened in Pittsburgh and Miami, where cities paid for new stadiums under the assumption ownership would then go wild spending money to attract high-quality ballplayers to bring championships to those locales, only to discover the owners had no such intentions.
EDIT: Here it is.
https://www.baseballprospectus.com/news/article/81465/as-fans-are-still-dreaming-of-the-end-of-moneyball/ (https://www.baseballprospectus.com/news/article/81465/as-fans-are-still-dreaming-of-the-end-of-moneyball/)
As incompetent in governance that Oakland is/has, what they got right was to accommodate Howard Terminal as the optimal option and Fisher led them on. The whole charade is not the city (or Alameda County's for that matter) fault.