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The Game Show Forum => Game Show Channels & Networks => Topic started by: Strikerz04 on September 27, 2022, 05:04:52 PM
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Per their Facebook Page: (https://www.facebook.com/BUZZRtv/photos/a.1603821899834599/3160446260838814)
- PYL Returns to the schedule
- MGHS is gone
- MG and LMAD takes its place.
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MGHSH is keeping its late night slot it looks like, per TV Passport (https://www.tvpassport.com/tv-listings/stations/buzzr-tv/15543/2022-10-10). Still, this does look to possibly be its last hurrah.
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As much as I'd love to see TalkAbout return to the 11 pm slot, LMAD works for me. A couple years ago, it was fun watching it at 11:30 when I got home from work.
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Do we have any indication of the total viewership of the channel between the broadcast stuff and streaming options?
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You can see the full new schedule on Buzzr's website here (schedule for Oct. 11 linked (https://buzzrtv.com/schedule/schedule_by_date/22-10-11/America/New_York)).
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Paid programming will replace Whew! & Talk About starting 11/7.
Also, The Newlywed Game "season 1" will begin on 11/9. Wouldn't have expected them to run the Kroeger season and reduce Bob's presence. Eh well.
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Paid programming will replace Whew! & Talk About starting 11/7.
Also, The Newlywed Game "season 1" will begin on 11/9. Wouldn't have expected them to run the Kroeger season and reduce Bob's presence. Eh well.
Seriously? They're not just referring to 1997 as "Season 1" (as in, Eubanks' S1)? Well this will be...interesting. (a certain online commentator said the 1998 season was the perfect combo of what 1996 and 1997 tried to do)
And W! and TA leaving (and MG/HS being scaled back, though they've been doing so with recent changes) makes me wonder about Buzzr's keeping their "forbidden door" open. Are the days of jaw-dropping acquisitions over, and we're seeing a new Buzzr that doesn't care as much about the rarities?
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Seriously? They're not just referring to 1997 as "Season 1" (as in, Eubanks' S1)?
Doubtful since Eubanks' 97 return was numbered as season 2.
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When Buzzr last aired Paid Programming and/or the weekend educational crap, didn't they just do that for their Buzzr over-the-air diginets only?
I though the Buzzr website and many of the Roku, etc..etc... streams just aired a 3rd run of some of the previous night's game shows.
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When Buzzr last aired Paid Programming and/or the weekend educational crap, didn't they just do that for their Buzzr over-the-air diginets only?
I though the Buzzr website and many of the Roku, etc..etc... streams just aired a 3rd run of some of the previous night's game shows.
Right, there's no paid programming on the digital streams. It repeats the previous night's primetime block.
And when Buzzr first acquired The Newlywed Game, one of their press releases or interviews on the topic mentioned they'd eventually come back around to Kroeger but only after they had ran both of Bob's seasons. How many shows were in the 1998-99 season? They will have only aired 65 (minus a couple of skips) at that point.
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When Buzzr last aired Paid Programming and/or the weekend educational crap, didn't they just do that for their Buzzr over-the-air diginets only?
I though the Buzzr website and many of the Roku, etc..etc... streams just aired a 3rd run of some of the previous night's game shows.
Right, there's no paid programming on the digital streams. It repeats the previous night's primetime block.
And when Buzzr first acquired The Newlywed Game, one of their press releases or interviews on the topic mentioned they'd eventually come back around to Kroeger but only after they had ran both of Bob's seasons. How many shows were in the 1998-99 season? They will have only aired 65 (minus a couple of skips) at that point.
Ah, clearly I didn"t read that press release. The last episode is numbered 3065, were there only 13 weeks taped for season 3?
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Ah, clearly I didn"t read that press release. The last episode is numbered 3065, were there only 13 weeks taped for season 3?
Probably? The last reference to the show in the present or future tense in Broadcasting (and/or Cable) is September 1998 referencing the new season. It honestly might be one of the more stark examples of "going out with a whimper" in syndication history.
Most references from 1997-98 essentially say the Dating-Newlywed hour and individual ratings had been a ratings disaster in season 1, and only improved moderately with the reboots with Eubanks-Woolery for season 2. B&C largely ignores both shows' existence after Spring '98.
Buzzr stopped season 2 at 130 shows (which is approx. the same number of shows GSN were running in rotation in 2001-02), which suggests that production was probably suspended early and they just looped the 26 weeks they made an entire time through and waited to see if stations wanted to go around again. Enough stations said yes, so season 3 comes, numbers are even worse (multiple game, dating, and court shows debuted that year), stations hit eject, production stops after 65 shows. There's a vague reference in a May '99 B&C regarding a producer hire that speaks of both shows in the definite past tense.
Meanwhile, contemporary ATGS posts functionally ignore the show starting shortly after the host change except for occasionally making fun of how often GSN reran the show, the constant reboots, and that the reruns on cable seemed to outlive the show but they assumed it was still on locally because of the simulcast.
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Gary Kroeger's Facebook page makes no mention of this, which leads me to take a wait-and-see approach. By contrast, Annie Wood had BZZZ!'s return to television on her social media pages about ten minutes after the official announcement.
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Paid programming will replace Whew! & Talk About starting 11/7.
Also, The Newlywed Game "season 1" will begin on 11/9. Wouldn't have expected them to run the Kroeger season and reduce Bob's presence. Eh well.
Dumbest thing in the world, dumping Whew! and not giving us a chance to see the many civilian episodes they skipped over.
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Paid programming will replace Whew! & Talk About starting 11/7.
Also, The Newlywed Game "season 1" will begin on 11/9. Wouldn't have expected them to run the Kroeger season and reduce Bob's presence. Eh well.
Dumbest thing in the world, dumping Whew! and not giving us a chance to see the many civilian episodes they skipped over.
Yes folks, everything going on in the world right now, from the war in Ukraine to the economic instability to everything else, pales in comparison to a digital television subchannel choosing to remove something from their schedule. Priorities, people.
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In all fairness I don't think Matt is being literal. I don't think it's the dumbest thing in the world, but I get what he meant.
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When Whew! first started, I remember hearing that it was one of the most popular shows on the network. AFAIK, we've never seen any actual ratings but after a year on the schedule, it probably isn't doing as well for them anymore. I guess the move to early mornings was the first clue that maybe it wasn't going to last much longer.
I'm very grateful for the approx. eight months of shows I never saw the first time around. Hopefully it (and maybe another rare surprise) will come back on the schedule at some point. Maybe they're just "resting" it before they add the rest of the non-civilian shows.
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I seem to remember at least part of the 8AM hour getting preempted for infomercials for several weeks around the holidays last year as well, so it may only be a temporary thing.
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Buzzr has started running a promo for the addition of Kroeger's season, or as they word it: "The Newlywed Game with Bob and/or Gary".
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1M3HIvdck403ub6sOPsh17Mn0dNgqTbsb/view?usp=share_link
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Just saw a promo for a Veterans Day marathon starting tomorrow at 4. The marathon features Armed Forces episodes of MG90 and Karn’s Feud.
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Looks like CC and P+ move forward in their runs starting this Monday, and Perry CS started moving forward this past Monday (with episode 499). TT moves back from 478 (1/6/76) to 285 (4/9/75).
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OK, I'm confused. Buzzer's online sked shows they were supposed to air TT episode 459 at 1:30 ET on 11/16 (believe this would've been the Bobby Van-hosted episode of Emcee Week with Barker/Convy/Rayburn). Instead, they showed an episode from 1983 with Rebecca Holden, TK Carter and some guy from Capitol. I can place the week it aired, but can't place the day. Anyone know offhand?
And for that matter, anyone know why the switch?
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OK, I'm confused. Buzzer's online sked shows they were supposed to air TT episode 463 at 1:30 ET on 11/16 (believe this would've been the Bobby Van-hosted episode of Emcee Week with Barker/Convy/Rayburn). Instead, they showed an episode from 1983 with Rebecca Holden, TK Carter and some guy from Capitol. I can place the week it aired, but can't place the day. Anyone know offhand?
And for that matter, anyone know why the switch?
It seems it was an accident. Episode 459 from 1975 was scheduled, but they instead ran episode 459 of the 80s version. They did that once before with Card Sharks. In a time slot that was supposed to be Perry they ran a Eubanks episode that had the same episode number as the scheduled Perry one.
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It seems it was an accident. Episode 459 from 1975 was scheduled, but they instead ran episode 459 of the 80s version. They did that once before with Card Sharks. In a time slot that was supposed to be Perry they ran a Eubanks episode that had the same episode number as the scheduled Perry one.
Thx, Greg. (And thx for catching that I actually meant to type 459 instead of 463. :) )
So that puts the one mistakenly aired as the 11/28/83 episode.
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Honestly, I find the 1980s version of the show to be generally superior. A lot of the questions are generally smarter and show the evolution of both women in relationship dynamics and within the broader culture, AND aving theme weeks where the pairs on the show absolutely weren't married allowed them to change up the questions altogether AND avoid the nonsense where they were partnering up obviously LGBTQ celebs with other people and having to play pretend. Better theme, too.
I'd love if Buzzr ran the 80s version "accidentally" for a lot longer than a couple of episodes, tbh.
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I'm a big fan of the 'Places please' intro, and I do like the expansion beyond married/dating couples. I do think the 80s version lacked the star power of the 70s version, which makes the replay value a little harder.
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I'm a big fan of the 'Places please' intro, and I do like the expansion beyond married/dating couples.
I agree. I also thought the theme music here was better than the 70s version. They also used different sound effects. I remember on one show with mothers and daughters, Zsa Zsa took forever to sit in her chair, so they could not move that prop backstage till she sat down. I remember Johnny O chuckling.
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I'm a big fan of the 'Places please' intro, and I do like the expansion beyond married/dating couples.
I thought the intro was better when Johnny O. (or whoever the announcer was during the first couple of weeks of the 70s version) named all the couples at the top. It also seemed less clunky than the first version of the 80s intro where it repeats itself "From TV City, it's TT! ... Welcome to the game of celebrity gossip, TT!"
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I thought the intro was better when Johnny O. (or whoever the announcer was during the first couple of weeks of the 70s version) named all the couples at the top.
Believe it was Jack Clark.
Preferred the 70s theme myself (the 80s theme sounded more like a TPiR cue to my ears), and the 70s effects (although they did carry over the time's up bell to the 80s version). But the 70s version tended to ramble more (seemed like they had "extra time" more often in the 80s version). (And I strongly disliked the first format. It found its footing a lot better when it went all "quickies.")
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Always was a fan of the 80s version more (and i LOVE that theme more than the original)....
I actually surprised this hasn't been brought back yet. Especially considering the 'lack of star power' of many celebrities doesn't stop other shows from booking them .
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I actually surprised this hasn't been brought back yet. Especially considering the 'lack of star power' of many celebrities doesn't stop other shows from booking them .
It kinda-sorta came back on HBO Max, as "About Last Night". Even with the different atmosphere and new bonus round, its Tattletales inspiration is very evident.
It's a pretty fun watch, although be warned it gets much raunchier than Tattletales ever did!
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Unfortunately, it’s one of the shows no longer available on HBO Max following the WBD merger.
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I thought the intro was better when Johnny O. (or whoever the announcer was during the first couple of weeks of the 70s version) named all the couples at the top.
Believe it was Jack Clark.
Preferred the 70s theme myself (the 80s theme sounded more like a TPiR cue to my ears), and the 70s effects (although they did carry over the time's up bell to the 80s version). But the 70s version tended to ramble more (seemed like they had "extra time" more often in the 80s version). (And I strongly disliked the first format. It found its footing a lot better when it went all "quickies.")
I'll take the 80's theme, but the opening vamp they had on the 70's show was better than the main theme..
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I'll agree with y'all that the '80s theme was a better example in the category of "theme song," but I also think its big, razzle-dazzle feel didn't really fit a show like Tattletales, where a handful of people stay motionless in the same space for the majority of a half hour.
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I dunno if I have a strong feeling for one theme over the other, but Scott makes an interesting point. In the early-80s, it seems Score went with bombastic, brassy themes for its G-T shows in an era where more theme songs were becoming synthesized.
For years I’ve thought this would’ve made an excellent car cue on TPiR, but it also feels like it should’ve been the unused theme for a G-T pilot.
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I dunno if I have a strong feeling for one theme over the other, but Scott makes an interesting point. In the early-80s, it seems Score went with bombastic, brassy themes for its G-T shows in an era where more theme songs were becoming synthesized.
I've always thought that this was a Goodson preference; I think TPIR was intended to be a Moog-led theme song, but Goodson preferred a horn in there somewhere so Edd went with a horn that blended well with the Moog, hence the flugelhorn sharing lead instrument.
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Since we're talking Tattletales I'll chime in. My preference is for the '70s version. I like the overall feel of it and the set a bit better - but I do agree with what others have said about answers going on too long sometimes. They were originally called "quickies", but some of them seemed to take up a third of the show once that format was made permanent. I would have liked "extra time" more often!
I also prefer the '70s music package - I just think it's more melodic, especially the mid-show prize plugs.
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Looks like CC and P+ move forward in their runs starting this Monday, and Perry CS started moving forward this past Monday (with episode 499). TT moves back from 478 (1/6/76) to 285 (4/9/75).
Would anyone be willing to share:
CS Perry eps 505-508
CS Eubanks eps 527,528
TT 462,463,467,469,476
My streaming feed was knocked offline due to Windows Update changing some configuration settings and wasn't able to grab them. Unfortunately my backup partners were not able to grab them either - so you'll be helping several of us out! I'd be glad to help anyone backfill any of their missing Buzzr eps in return.
Thanks in advance!
edit: Thanks to those that helped out! I have them covered now.
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The "new to us" CCs end on 12/16 (from 783 back to 670 on 12/19). And Perry CS jumps back from 518 (4/24/80) to 479 (2/29/80) on 12/5.
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The "new to us" CCs end on 12/16 (from 783 back to 670 on 12/19). And Perry CS jumps back from 518 (4/24/80) to 479 (2/29/80) on 12/5.
And the last of the new to Buzzr PYL episodes air on 12/9.
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Always was a fan of the 80s version more (and i LOVE that theme more than the original)....
I actually surprised this hasn't been brought back yet. Especially considering the 'lack of star power' of many celebrities doesn't stop other shows from booking them .
It has been brought back with Steph Curry but it wasn't renewed.
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It has been brought back with Steph Curry but it wasn't renewed.
Under a different name (About Last Night), but ostensibly the same show (the format was more similar to Tattletales than Tattletales was to He Said, She Said). I watched all the episodes. It was fine, but lacking any audience due to COVID did take away some of the fun of the show.
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Ah, clearly I didn"t read that press release. The last episode is numbered 3065, were there only 13 weeks taped for season 3?
Probably? The last reference to the show in the present or future tense in Broadcasting (and/or Cable) is September 1998 referencing the new season. It honestly might be one of the more stark examples of "going out with a whimper" in syndication history.
Most references from 1997-98 essentially say the Dating-Newlywed hour and individual ratings had been a ratings disaster in season 1, and only improved moderately with the reboots with Eubanks-Woolery for season 2. B&C largely ignores both shows' existence after Spring '98.
Buzzr stopped season 2 at 130 shows (which is approx. the same number of shows GSN were running in rotation in 2001-02), which suggests that production was probably suspended early and they just looped the 26 weeks they made an entire time through and waited to see if stations wanted to go around again. Enough stations said yes, so season 3 comes, numbers are even worse (multiple game, dating, and court shows debuted that year), stations hit eject, production stops after 65 shows. There's a vague reference in a May '99 B&C regarding a producer hire that speaks of both shows in the definite past tense.
After watching the two Season Three NG episodes aired on Christmas Eve primetime (and an additional one a couple of weeks back), I can see why the stations were dropping the show so quickly:
One episode airing the 24th had the ladies coming out in Sumo Wrestler costumes, and they held a battle to see which wife was the toughest. Then the wives had to "try" to sit down in their chairs for the remainder of the round one questions.
The following episode had a question asking the wives if they would throw a pie in their spouse's face for $50 on national TV. And yes, there were actual pies for each wife and Bob had the money in hand.
Speaking of pies, the third episode I saw was a hybrid of the first two stunts (toughest/pies) -- the wives were dressed in drill sergeant attire and had to determine which wife could do the most push-ups. A pie was placed below each wive's face on the floor to "motiviate" them.
All three of these stunts were painfully long, and in the case of the sumo wrestler costumes, very uncormfortable. Compared to how Bob tried to tiptoe around these stunts while still looking professional, and how bad they were overall, The Diamond Head Game must have been a walk in the park!