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The Game Show Forum => Game Show Channels & Networks => Topic started by: Robair on July 06, 2022, 08:34:10 AM
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July, August, September
Concentration goes to 1352 for another fresh run starting July 18.
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It looks like there were new-to-Buzzr eps of Match Game 77 in the 6pm Eastern slot this week. Eps 1079-1088. Also this week's airing of evening Newlywed Game eps seem to have resolved the 'begin at the first question' issue.
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On an episode of Press Your Luck that recently aired on Buzzr, a contestant won a trip to Hong Kong. In the prize copy for the hotel, Rod described it as "right in the middle of all the shopping, nightlife, and entertainment that the exotic Orient can offer." Except Buzzr muted out the word "Orient."
I'm aware that that's an outdated term that should now be avoided in favor of more accurate geographic descriptions. And I know that the adjectival form of that word -- especially when used as a noun to refer to a person or people -- is offensive and should never be used.
But this is the first time I've heard anybody actively censor an instance of the word in a piece of old media. Is this a practice that's now common?
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The way I understand is that you refer to a rug or vase as Oriental, but not a person. Never heard that about Hong Kong, which is apparently known as the “Pearl of the Orient”. This sounds like Buzzr simply covering its tracks.
EDIT: VASE not case.
/FU Autocorrect
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But this is the first time I've heard anybody actively censor an instance of the word in a piece of old media. Is this a practice that's now common?
Buzzr has done it at least once before, on an episode of Split Second from 1986. Although that case was more clear-cut; Monty asked a language teacher which students had the hardest time learning English, and she responded with "The toughest would have to be (adjectival form) students, or Arabic speakers, because they have to start right from scratch". She definitely wasn't speaking through malice, although I have no idea how accepted the term was in '86.
This sounds like Buzzr simply covering its tracks.
They've been quite thorough about that, too; Buzzr skipped over the 12/9/85 Super Password because the word popped up in the bonus round. (The 7/24/85 Body Language got skipped too, for the double whammy of the word showing up and the gestures given to get to it.)
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When reviewing something in the pharmaceutical realm about 12 years ago, I flagged the offensive demonym when it was used to describe side effects and certain populations. It went through multiple levels in my department, but they made the unfortunate decision to "retain the term because it was cited in the source," a decades-old medical article.
However, Orient is not only geographic designation, but one that has cultural significance. But, if they are overly cautious on 40-year old prize copy, I'm okay with that. (And thankfully, the word flokati is not offensive.)
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Looks like we're getting a full schedule revamp come August 1st. Buzzr tweeted out today that the full daily schedule will now be "Double Plays," so it'll be a 1-hour block of everything, except MGHSH, which would be 2 hours. And if that's the case, I'd imagine that show is getting bumped out of prime time. Also, there's '80s LMAD in the promo, so it looks like that's sticking around after this week's stunt.
https://twitter.com/BUZZRtv/status/1549061534508208129?t=SWWsPC5w44PgEMn03dtkIQ&s=19
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Looks like we're getting a full schedule revamp come August 1st. Buzzr tweeted out today that the full daily schedule will now be "Double Plays," so it'll be a 1-hour block of everything, except MGHSH, which would be 2 hours.
This is a very interesting move. I wonder what precipitated it. From an ad sales perspective, it's how everything else is programmed these days - easier to sell a show in an hour block than every half hour. Just a quick look at the diginets that air in my market, just about all of them are on a one-show-per-hour model. But most, if not all, of Buzzr is not sold that way (currently).
As Vahan called out on Twitter, TalkAbout, Supermarket Sweep, PYL, and Whew! were not shown in this promo. Narz Concentration wasn't, either. I would think that the switch to hourlong blocks will cut down on the number of shows that air. Will be interested to see the new schedule.
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Oog, that guy has a Twitter presence?
Weird that a channel would go to a great deal of effort to put TalkAbout on the air then shelve it so quickly unless people just don’t care about charmingly budgetarily-friendly Canadian game shows.
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Welp, the calendar only goes up to 5am on 8/1 (https://buzzrtv.com/schedule/schedule_by_date/2022-8-1/America/New_York)
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And here we go…
https://twitter.com/buzzrtv/status/1549144490195255296
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And here we go…
https://twitter.com/buzzrtv/status/1549144490195255296
3 hours of Classic Concentration a day. Wow.
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And here we go…
https://twitter.com/buzzrtv/status/1549144490195255296
3 hours of Classic Concentration a day. Wow.
Classic Concentration is the new Match Game, sharing those duties with Super Password apparently.
FWIW, according to BUZZR’s replies it looks like at least a few of the shows not listed in the graphic are getting late night slots (Sweep and Dawson Feud have been confirmed).
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I like Super Password as much as the next guy, but 2 hours a night is an awful lot.
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According to their replies on social media, the overnight schedule for all 7 days is as follows:
12AM Classic Concentration
1AM Password Plus
2AM Supermarket Sweep
3AM Match Game Hollywood Squares Hour
4A Family Feud (Dawson) (90 minutes it seems?)
So wow, four hours a day of Classic Concentration is a lot even though it is a great show.
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Bummed to see Garry Moore's TTTT (And Narz Concentration) finally get dropped from the schedule (I only started being able to regularly watch Buzzr about a year ago so I have no idea if it's been taken off before), but can't say that I'm surprised considering how much it got shunted off to early morning hours. I'm just glad to see it got as long of a run as it did so that new audiences could get the chance to give it a shot.
Yeah though, that is a LOT of Classic Concentration. Also all the stuff I'm most interested in seeing is getting the 8AM-noon treatment. As someone who works until 5/6PM most days... there's not that much variety for people on that set work schedule. I guess it's the sign that I'm gonna need to start learning how to schedule/set recordings of their morning stream. Frankly, I'm just glad they're still even giving us Whew!
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I like Super Password as much as the next guy, but 2 hours a night is an awful lot.
I feel like the SP overdose, along with Plus (no more Kennedy on weekends, BTW?!) and '67, is a subtle advertisement for the NBC version which starts the same month.
And didn't Narz Concentration just start a fresh batch? So WTH?
(We also lose NYSI and the 70s panel shows...or any panels for that matter. And Sale, they just had some syndie eps left though, right?)
So yeah...variety is hurting here. Obviously.
No PYL is curious too....can't be because of the Banks version going on now, as "no compete" clauses were never a problem with it. ("No compete" is the theory some had about Sony's aversion to Wheel and Jeopardy! reruns, for instance.) Was it just not that popular?
For that matter, Whew! and Talk About being pushed to early morning concerns me, like they're giving up on both. Maybe at least till fresh eps are prepared.
Well MG/HS is being downsized which is what some people called for, seeing as we saw all Buzzr is willing to show us. But is it one episode in the hour slot or two? (I'm guessing the former)
I hope this isn't the start of dumbing down the channel in general.
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Well MG/HS is being downsized which is what some people called for, seeing as we saw all Buzzr is willing to show us. But is it one episode in the hour slot or two? (I'm guessing the former)
If you can run two MGHS episodes in an hour's time I'd love to see the results. GSN's speedup guys would be envious.
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I like Super Password as much as the next guy, but 2 hours a night is an awful lot.
I hope this isn't the start of dumbing down the channel in general.
I call it "The seven year itch" myself.
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Well MG/HS is being downsized which is what some people called for, seeing as we saw all Buzzr is willing to show us. But is it one episode in the hour slot or two? (I'm guessing the former)
If you can run two MGHS episodes in an hour's time I'd love to see the results. GSN's speedup guys would be envious.
I should have said "...or two in a 2 hour block". But this made me laugh.
Some might say just keep the Match Game segments and form a double episode in one hour that way...
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For that matter, Whew! and Talk About being pushed to early morning concerns me, like they're giving up on both. Maybe at least till fresh eps are prepared.
Keep in mind that these are two shows that are not Fremantle properties, so there may be issues that limit each show's total number of airings over the course of their leases. So by limiting them to one airing a day, they can stretch out the time they can air their runs. I don't see the movement of these shows to the AM as being a "death sentence" for either.
Plausible theories, but I could be wrong on all counts.
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Really disappointing schedule. Will really miss Narz Concentration, Sale of the Century, Cullen Price Is Right, Now You See It, and the panel shows, among others. Have long missed Body Language and the black & white WML, TTTT, Beat the Clock, IGAS, and Password.
Didn't one of the heads of the channel recently pass away? If this is the direction they are now going in as a result, it doesn't seem as promising for the classic game show fan.
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Didn't one of the heads of the channel recently pass away? If this is the direction they are now going in as a result, it doesn't seem as promising for the classic game show fan.
I mean, the most recent show on the new lineup is 32 years old. I'm not the biggest fan of the changes - seriously, I love Classic Concentration but eight episodes a day is overkill - but it's not like they're doing a two-hour binge of Celebrity Name Game or Temptation either. I'm sure the other shows will return at some point.
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Definitely an odd schedule, but scheduling mostly in hour-long blocks is how they started in 2015. Why they bothered making that Ruprecht/Eubanks commercial promoting the 9PM hour if they were just going to change the schedule in a few weeks, who knows. Not a surprise though that Talk About is being sent off to mornings.
They could definitely pare down on several shows in order to get shows removed back on, even if it was in the middle of the night. They could chop two hours of Classic Concentration, an hour of Super Password, an hour of Password Plus, one hour of MG/HS and a Family Feud... that would allow 5.5 hours for perhaps an hour of Sale of the Century, an hour of Press Your Luck, and perhaps a two hour block of 70's shows in the middle of the night.
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Looking at the schedule from a perspective of sheer utility, I wonder if they have more converted "new to Buzzr" episodes of these shows ready to go than the shows they're setting aside. Convert "new" episodes of other shows in the meantime, and work them back in while paring back some of the shows getting overkill at the outset.
Two solid hours of Super Password in primetime - can't imagine anybody's asking for that.
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If Super Password were newly converted, it would be listed as Super Password 86, for the 1986 shows. Instead, they are listing it as Super Password 85. They've shown all the 1985 shows, with a few skips here and there, over the last 6 years (!!!). A lot of what this schedule means is less variety and more repeats.
Super Password was on NBC for 4 and a half years. It took Buzzr 6 years to show just one calendar year of it. It boggles the mind!
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But this is the first time I've heard anybody actively censor an instance of the word in a piece of old media. Is this a practice that's now common?
It's a practice that seems to have been common for Buzzr for at least a few years now. It started with an M word for little person being censored across Match Games, Passwords and, most humorously, on Cullen Price is Right episodes where it was part of a product name. They had an episode of Super Password where the puzzle was something like "The Seven Dwarves" and it was solved after three clues, but then there was a sudden jump to Bert tossing to commercial because the unrevealed words of the puzzle they went over was that M word.
I've also seen instances of "Indian" being censored. It appears to just be when referring to Native Americans. Back during the Betty White tribute they ran the entire final week of Super Password except for one episode. Upon viewing said episode from a previous airing on GSN, they probably skipped it because one of the puzzles was "Indians." A shame since that particular episode featured the Gene Wood reading the prize copy on the floor moment, though there's no guarantee Buzzr would've left that in anyway.
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Didn't one of the heads of the channel recently pass away? If this is the direction they are now going in as a result, it doesn't seem as promising for the classic game show fan.
I mean, the most recent show on the new lineup is 32 years old. I'm not the biggest fan of the changes - seriously, I love Classic Concentration but eight episodes a day is overkill - but it's not like they're doing a two-hour binge of Celebrity Name Game or Temptation either. I'm sure the other shows will return at some point.
Hope you're right and this isn't the beginning of the Dork Age of the channel. Kinda like GSN in 1998-99, say, when Extreme Gong got the big push.
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Agreed on pretty much your entire analysis.
No PYL is curious too....can't be because of the Banks version going on now, as "no compete" clauses were never a problem with it. ("No compete" is the theory some had about Sony's aversion to Wheel and Jeopardy! reruns, for instance.) Was it just not that popular?
I find this odd too, partly because it’s an iconic 80s series, plus you’d think they’d want to keep it around to promote the Banks series. Although they haven’t had a new batch of eps for a while, so perhaps it shouldn’t be too shocking. Perhaps the more surprising one to me is $ale, considering that for its entire BUZZR run, it’s been in prime time or on the cusp of it.
And slightly tangential… while I personally never bought the idea that Sony was completely blocking WOF/J! reruns due to “no compete,” I do think it was true that they didn’t want reruns potentially running against new eps in the same time slot. Hence why WOF & J! reruns on GSN almost always aired only before 3PM or after 1AM. Though “no compete” may be becoming less of an issue even for Sony, considering WOF & J! are about to get their own 24/7 channels.
For that matter, Whew! and Talk About being pushed to early morning concerns me, like they're giving up on both. Maybe at least till fresh eps are prepared.
I’d have been willing to think that maybe Talk About was tanking in its time slot. But I thought Whew! was getting respectable numbers. Along with Narz Concentration getting scuttled, I was wondering if maybe the lease door was beginning to close. Although some other shows that are leased or at least have a leased component (Classic Concentration, MGHSH, Newlywed Game) are still being treated well. So maybe it’s just the fangeek leased shows getting shafted. :( Hopefully you’re right that it’s just until new eps are ready.
Definitely an odd schedule, but scheduling mostly in hour-long blocks is how they started in 2015. Why they bothered making that Ruprecht/Eubanks commercial promoting the 9PM hour if they were just going to change the schedule in a few weeks, who knows.
I sort of wonder if this schedule overhaul just came together just came together within the last few weeks, in part because of the Ruprecht/Eubanks promo.
They could definitely pare down on several shows in order to get shows removed back on, even if it was in the middle of the night. They could chop two hours of Classic Concentration, an hour of Super Password, an hour of Password Plus, one hour of MG/HS and a Family Feud... that would allow 5.5 hours for perhaps an hour of Sale of the Century, an hour of Press Your Luck, and perhaps a two hour block of 70's shows in the middle of the night.
Agreed. Or heck, give a few hours of the weekend to those shows.
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No PYL is curious too....can't be because of the Banks version going on now, as "no compete" clauses were never a problem with it.
I find this odd too, partly because it’s an iconic 80s series, plus you’d think they’d want to keep it around to promote the Banks series. Although they haven’t had a new batch of eps for a while, so perhaps it shouldn’t be too shocking.
Buzzr just finished airing a new-to-network batch of 35 episodes of Press Your Luck last week.
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Looking at the schedule from a perspective of sheer utility, I wonder if they have more converted "new to Buzzr" episodes of these shows ready to go than the shows they're setting aside. Convert "new" episodes of other shows in the meantime, and work them back in while paring back some of the shows getting overkill at the outset.
Kinda my thought on this as well. I mean, they just finished a new (to them) block of PYL episodes, so it was more than likely going to be 6 months of episodes they've run multiple times anyway. The most surprising to me is that Narz Concentration leaves right as they start airing fresh shows, instead putting a ton more CC on the schedule. And Talk About and Whew! seem on their way out already, which is disappointing since they mentioned early in the year that Whew! was doing notably well for them. I have a feeling we'll be seeing changes to this not long after it starts and BUZZR has been exceptionally good at listening to its core audience.
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And slightly tangential… while I personally never bought the idea that Sony was completely blocking WOF/J! reruns due to “no compete,” I do think it was true that they didn’t want reruns potentially running against new eps in the same time slot. Hence why WOF & J! reruns on GSN almost always aired only before 3PM or after 1AM. Though “no compete” may be becoming less of an issue even for Sony, considering WOF & J! are about to get their own 24/7 channels.
I kind of had the same idea about why no Family Feud in convenient hours of the day. Since a Harvey episode is playing somewhere, sometime. (Then again how do you explain GSN?) That or the theories about Dawson with the ladies no longer being appropriate and all. (once again, Then Again...why no Combs eps?)
Sale had just some syndies left before they went through everything available, no?
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The sense that I got when I first saw this was that it's a temporary stunt that'll likely end in the fall; go heavy on the top performers for the rest of summer, then lightly sprinkle back in other shows.
I also wouldn't doubt that they'll leverage all the iterations of Password to air a million promos for Jimmy Fallon's revival.
$ale was also pretty stale, it needed a break anyway. Disappointed that old school Concentration isn't part of it, but also not surprised that the broader audience clearly responds better to Alex's version. BUZZR's been treating us old-school fans pretty well, why not let 'em draw in their ratings for a bit.
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Hopefully this schedule is only temporary.
If they are going to go heavy on Password, it would be nice to see them trot out the black and white version.
If the black and white shows ever come back, maybe they could do a two hour block of Cullen Price Is Right on Saturdays, and a two hour block of Allen Ludden black and white Password for Sundays.
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If Super Password were newly converted, it would be listed as Super Password 86, for the 1986 shows. Instead, they are listing it as Super Password 85. They've shown all the 1985 shows, with a few skips here and there, over the last 6 years (!!!). A lot of what this schedule means is less variety and more repeats.
Super Password was on NBC for 4 and a half years. It took Buzzr 6 years to show just one calendar year of it. It boggles the mind!
Networks rerun a limited number of episodes all the time, and the casual fan usually never notices or cares. It's a free channel that goes out of its way to include content for people who don't get the channel. And every now and then, they throw the superfans a bone. Enjoy it for what it is.
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Buzzr just finished airing a new-to-network batch of 35 episodes of Press Your Luck last week.
Oh yeah, I was forgetting about that. I stand corrected. It just seems like they’ve moved at such a snail’s pace with adding new eps of PYL—though that could be said of a number of BUZZR shows.
And slightly tangential… while I personally never bought the idea that Sony was completely blocking WOF/J! reruns due to “no compete,” I do think it was true that they didn’t want reruns potentially running against new eps in the same time slot. Hence why WOF & J! reruns on GSN almost always aired only before 3PM or after 1AM. Though “no compete” may be becoming less of an issue even for Sony, considering WOF & J! are about to get their own 24/7 channels.
I kind of had the same idea about why no Family Feud in convenient hours of the day. Since a Harvey episode is playing somewhere, sometime. (Then again how do you explain GSN?) That or the theories about Dawson with the ladies no longer being appropriate and all. (once again, Then Again...why no Combs eps?)
Fremantle/Pearson/etc. never seemed to have an issue with Feud reruns being played at the same time as new eps. Even back to the Karn & O’Hurley days, you could still find Dawson, Combs, or later on Karn reruns on GSN at virtually all hours of the day, eventual paring down of the classics notwithstanding. And of course Harvey Feud is all over TV & streaming all hours of the day and doesn’t seem to be hurting the new eps. An argument could be made that it’s helping increase the appetite for new Harvey Feud content.
Perhaps some Sony exec saw that the reruns & viral videos weren’t hurting Harvey and thought, “Maybe we’ve been approaching this the wrong way with our shows.”
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Buzzr just finished airing a new-to-network batch of 35 episodes of Press Your Luck last week.
Oh yeah, I was forgetting about that. I stand corrected. It just seems like they’ve moved at such a snail’s pace with adding new eps of PYL—though that could be said of a number of BUZZR shows.
And slightly tangential… while I personally never bought the idea that Sony was completely blocking WOF/J! reruns due to “no compete,” I do think it was true that they didn’t want reruns potentially running against new eps in the same time slot. Hence why WOF & J! reruns on GSN almost always aired only before 3PM or after 1AM. Though “no compete” may be becoming less of an issue even for Sony, considering WOF & J! are about to get their own 24/7 channels.
I kind of had the same idea about why no Family Feud in convenient hours of the day. Since a Harvey episode is playing somewhere, sometime. (Then again how do you explain GSN?) That or the theories about Dawson with the ladies no longer being appropriate and all. (once again, Then Again...why no Combs eps?)
Fremantle/Pearson/etc. never seemed to have an issue with Feud reruns being played at the same time as new eps. Even back to the Karn & O’Hurley days, you could still find Dawson, Combs, or later on Karn reruns on GSN at virtually all hours of the day, eventual paring down of the classics notwithstanding. And of course Harvey Feud is all over TV & streaming all hours of the day and doesn’t seem to be hurting the new eps. An argument could be made that it’s helping increase the appetite for new Harvey Feud content.
Perhaps some Sony exec saw that the reruns & viral videos weren’t hurting Harvey and thought, “Maybe we’ve been approaching this the wrong way with our shows.”
So then, I wonder why Buzzr has an aversion to the show, barring late night, weekends (not anymore), and marathons? Just doesn't perform well? Any of the "problematic" theories? Doesn't want to expose the Harvey version for being inferior? ;-) ;-) ;-)
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I like Super Password as much as the next guy, but 2 hours a night is an awful lot.
I hope this isn't the start of dumbing down the channel in general.
I call it "The seven year itch" myself.
I compare this to, and I hope it doesn't totally come to pass, GSN in 1998. And yes, I know...we got it MUCH worse from them since then. Even what we used to call the "dark period" wasn't as bad as the HSN Era, and more. But hear me out. Yes, the Goodson shows returned in 1998, and we still had classic Wheel and Jeopardy!, classic Pyramid, the Barry-Enright shows, etc. But! When GSN was Goodson-less, they switched to a "repeat a 3-hour block twice" format and never looked back. That hurt the variety a bit. (Flash forward to August 2022, and I ask you, sound familiar?)
The crappy originals (one of which showed disdain for GSN's fandom) came, so did cutting fee plugs, credit crunches, speedups, and years later, only catering to the newer shows and then just Harvey Feud.
So yeah, 1998 was when GSN jumped the shark. Hope 2022 isn't the same for Buzzr.
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I think a few of you need to take a step back and chill out. It's one schedule change. It's not ideal but the schedule hasn't even taken effect and some of you are going Chicken Little. Again, the "newest" show is from 1990. That was 32 years ago (as much as I don't wanna admit that), which is a long time.
Just relax and we'll revisit this conversation in a few months. Please. I'm begging you.
/Extreme Gong wasn't exactly wrong either for their jab
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If they are going to go heavy on Password, it would be nice to see them trot out the black and white version.
If the black and white shows ever come back, maybe they could do a two hour block of Cullen Price Is Right on Saturdays, and a two hour block of Allen Ludden black and white Password for Sundays.
They should have a two-hour block of Cullen PiR, Collyer's Beat The Clock, and B&W Password on the weekends.
Cordially,
Tammy
P.S. BUZZR never got around to the ABC era of TPiR. [King Leonardo]CONFOUNDIT!!!!![/kl]
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Again, the "newest" show is from 1990.
(pushes glasses up by the bridge) Actually, The Newlywed Game is from 1997 -- Buzzr just didn't acknowledge that in the graphic.
But your overall point still stands, of course.
I have to admit, when Buzzr announced in 2018 that it would begin airing Classic Concentration, I wondered whether they were making a mistake investing in a show that wouldn't have much appeal to the general public. I didn't expect it to become one of the network's top-performing shows (I assume, based on how quickly they're converting episodes and how often it shows up on the schedule).
Sure, I'm a little disappointed that this new schedule leaves out some of the shows I enjoy and goes too heavy on shows I usually don't tune in for. But I'm looking at this as an opportunity to get some more free time to pursue other interests. Nobody's forcing me to watch all of those Super Passwords.
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Again, the "newest" show is from 1990.
(pushes glasses up by the bridge) Actually, The Newlywed Game is from 1997 -- Buzzr just didn't acknowledge that in the graphic.
But your overall point still stands, of course.
I did forget NG. Still 25 years is pretty good for a classics channel.
I have to admit, when Buzzr announced in 2018 that it would begin airing Classic Concentration, I wondered whether they were making a mistake investing in a show that wouldn't have much appeal to the general public. I didn't expect it to become one of the network's top-performing shows (I assume, based on how quickly they're converting episodes and how often it shows up on the schedule).
For a show that didn't air in reruns for several years, I'm shocked at how well-remembered CC is amongst the younger crowd. I've seen it mentioned several times on Twitter or the Xennial group I belong to on Facebook. $ale gets a lotta love too.
/People love seeing Trebek with a 'stache
//I've seen a few women swoon over pics of him from the 70s
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An argument could be made that it’s helping increase the appetite for new Harvey Feud content.
*New* Harvey Feud Content?!?!?? He's been doing the same tired shtick for over a decade now.
"I'm your man Steve Harvey...We've got a good one for you today...Penis!"
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For a show that didn't air in reruns for several years, I'm shocked at how well-remembered CC is amongst the younger crowd. I've seen it mentioned several times on Twitter or the Xennial group I belong to on Facebook. $ale gets a lotta love too.
/People love seeing Trebek with a 'stache
//I've seen a few women swoon over pics of him from the 70s
Speaking of vintage Trebek, I'd like to remind those who feel this new schedule starting August 1st is Buzzr's "Dark Period" that this should give you an opportunity to watch (and/or analyze) Pluto TV's "Wheel" & "Jeopardy" channels that launch on the same day.
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Speaking of vintage Trebek, I'd like to remind those who feel this new schedule starting August 1st is Buzzr's "Dark Period" that this should give you an opportunity to watch (and/or analyze) Pluto TV's "Wheel" & "Jeopardy" channels that launch on the same day.
...you don't think BUZZR might intentionally be sandbagging on the new lineup, in order to encourage people to check out the Wheel and Jeopardy channels (in a "don't worry, you won't be missing anything important" way), do you? BUZZR's directly acknowledged the two new channels on Twitter, after all.
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...you don't think BUZZR might intentionally be sandbagging on the new lineup, in order to encourage people to check out the Wheel and Jeopardy channels (in a "don't worry, you won't be missing anything important" way), do you? BUZZR's directly acknowledged the two new channels on Twitter, after all.
Simultaneously playing four-dimensional chess and attempting to eat the pieces here.
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"I'm your man Steve Harvey...We've got a good one for you today...Penis!"
Not gonna lie - i laughed at this ..hard. Thank you for that. :)
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When GSN was Goodson-less, they switched to a "repeat a 3-hour block twice" format and never looked back. That hurt the variety a bit.
No, they didn't. Here's the "Dark Period" schedule at the outset, manually typed out by yours truly.
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.tv.game-shows/c/t1G22s2n6Mc/m/jO48M_eeHl0J?hl=en
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When GSN was Goodson-less, they switched to a "repeat a 3-hour block twice" format and never looked back. That hurt the variety a bit. (Flash forward to August 2022, and I ask you, sound familiar?)
This actually happened when G/T RETURNED to the schedule in '98. I think it was Jake Tauber with the idea of putting the schedule in "wheels", as it was called.
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Speaking of vintage Trebek, I'd like to remind those who feel this new schedule starting August 1st is Buzzr's "Dark Period" that this should give you an opportunity to watch (and/or analyze) Pluto TV's "Wheel" & "Jeopardy" channels that launch on the same day.
...you don't think BUZZR might intentionally be sandbagging on the new lineup, in order to encourage people to check out the Wheel and Jeopardy channels (in a "don't worry, you won't be missing anything important" way), do you? BUZZR's directly acknowledged the two new channels on Twitter, after all.
No. Please stop with these theories.
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When I first read the new schedule on Monday night, and (most importantly) took the hardcore game-show-fan hat off, I absolutely can see some sound logic behind this schedule.
While I will definitely miss my 3:00/3:30 PYL/Whew! combo and waking up to Narz Concentration, I also keep in mind that:
-The Buzzr schedule hasn't been significantly changed for quite a while, except to make space for new acquisitions. A changing schedule gets viewers talking, as it already has!
-Outside of fandom, those that watch Buzzr are likely doing so as background noise, even myself included. I truly only pay actual attention to PYL and Whew!, for example, so showing a smaller variety likely won't bother too many viewers.
-While a show like Talk About might get us excited, it made *no* sense as a prime time show for the casual fan (how many outside of fandom would actually remember it?)
-Some shows that have been on the network for years have only had a small number of episodes converted and thus could really use a rest. Take, for example, NYSI. It's been on the network for a good chunk of its life, yet no episodes with the second format have aired yet. And, the ones that are currently airing are going through their umpteenth cycle. Why do I know this, you ask? I have a toddler daughter who *loves* the theme song, so we watch it every weekday morning with breakfast.
-Summer is not exactly a widely-watched time for television, anyway. So, why not focus on core product for now and slowly bring some stuff back with newer episodes while phasing out weaker performers?
-Most channels that focus on showing reruns do blocks like this anyway.
-Your typical viewer is not likely to leave the same channel on all day, so, even if blocks of programs were to repeat later in the day or overnight, most viewers are probably not likely to notice.
Honestly, if I was designing a schedule for Buzzr, something like this is probably what I'd come up with, but with one change: Take one of the weekend evenings and put some of the lesser-known shows on, maybe like a "Game of the Week" mini-marathon. Something like when GSN did its "Game of the Week" or "Faux Pause Picks" and trotted out Bullseye, Jackpot, All About Faces, etc. Throw the fandom a tasty bone and then focus the weekdays on the more casual audiences that want to see MG, Password, Newlywed Game as opposed to a short-lived Canadian game show.
Oh, and, if possible, put Price is Right (Barker) on the schedule, even if once a day.
Anthony
P.S. I think you'll see Sweep back on the schedule (not overnight) should ABC renew the show. Same with PYL.
P.P.S. If MGHS ended up being one of their top acquisitions to the point that it's still on the schedule, I definitely have some crow to eat because I thought the acquisition made no financial sense at the time it was announced!
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Could someone explain again why with shows like Password Plus and Super Password, shows they own, shows whose whole runs were converted by GSN, they can't just run these show straight from the first episode to the end, without the constant minicycles and having around 30 "fresh" episodes of them a year. Thanks!
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Could someone explain again why with shows like Password Plus and Super Password, shows they own, shows whose whole runs were converted by GSN, they can't just run these show straight from the first episode to the end, without the constant minicycles and having around 30 "fresh" episodes of them a year. Thanks!
Because the modern formats to which they were converted in the 1990s are now themselves antiquated. They have to be converted to a file format, then screened for content and quality control, edited to whatever degree they need to be, formatted and timed, and closed captioned (forgive me if I'm forgetting a step). They're essentially having to start from scratch. Multiply that by the number of shows on the schedule, some of which have to be converted from even more antiquated formats, plus anything they're doing specifically for streaming (Barker Era, etc.) and you've got a full-time job for a whole team of people.
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When GSN was Goodson-less, they switched to a "repeat a 3-hour block twice" format and never looked back. That hurt the variety a bit.
No, they didn't. Here's the "Dark Period" schedule at the outset, manually typed out by yours truly.
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.tv.game-shows/c/t1G22s2n6Mc/m/jO48M_eeHl0J?hl=en
Interesting. Now that I think of it, the earlier Joker and Tic Tac were earlier episodes, while the later morning airings were in the mid '80s (post-set changes). Perhaps it's the shows repeating that I remembered, not the episodes. It has been (yikes!) 25 years.
And yes, this was still better than All Harvey All Night. Maybe some of the other schedules that came after this indeed.
And check out that one guy asking for GSN to reach out to Grundy, Carruthers, Burt Sugarman to make up for no Goodson. How naive. Not much has changed.
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Oh, and, if possible, put Price is Right (Barker) on the schedule, even if once a day.
I totally agree with this. Buzzr would get eyeballs tuned in, especially in a primetime spot. But since there's a channel showing Barker Price 24/7, I can see why this isn't a priority for Buzzr. However, Tom Kennedy's version would fit on Buzzr's schedule nicely.
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While a show like Talk About might get us excited, it made *no* sense as a prime time show for the casual fan
Must agree here.....and I'm probably one of the bigger "Talk About" fans on this group. 7P Central might've been a nice, accessible time (well, for me at least :-*), but it seemed a bit too big-ticket for what, as much as I might personally like it, really isn't a "big ticket" show.
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When GSN was Goodson-less, they switched to a "repeat a 3-hour block twice" format and never looked back. That hurt the variety a bit.
No, they didn't. Here's the "Dark Period" schedule at the outset, manually typed out by yours truly.
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.tv.game-shows/c/t1G22s2n6Mc/m/jO48M_eeHl0J?hl=en
As someone who didn’t have GSN in those days, and especially looking back on the developments of the last 25 years, this was a pretty interesting read, occasional petty drama aside.
And complaining about a show airing 6 or 7 times a day? Seems almost quaint.
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For a show that didn't air in reruns for several years, I'm shocked at how well-remembered CC is amongst the younger crowd. I've seen it mentioned several times on Twitter or the Xennial group I belong to on Facebook. $ale gets a lotta love too.
Can co-sign this. I watch a video game speedrunner stream on Twitch and he's mentioned in the past that he was a game show fan growing up but hasn't watched them since, but he loves talking about how much he loved stuff like Press Your Luck as a kid. One time I mentioned that Classic Concentration was on and he got so excited that he stopped playing his game and was just streaming himself reacting to the episode that was on. He was constantly talking about how he hadn't seen the show in almost 30 years. :)
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Who is the runner in question?
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While a show like Talk About might get us excited, it made *no* sense as a prime time show for the casual fan
Must agree here.....and I'm probably one of the bigger "Talk About" fans on this group. 7P Central might've been a nice, accessible time (well, for me at least :-*), but it seemed a bit too big-ticket for what, as much as I might personally like it, really isn't a "big ticket" show.
Which is unfortunate, because there’s plenty of play-along, IMO.
However, the show screams cheap and that might have an effect on viewership. I know it popped up for a short time in reruns around ‘93, but I’m somewhat surprised that USA didn’t include TalkAbout with their other value menu fare airing in ‘89.
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Could someone explain again why with shows like Password Plus and Super Password, shows they own, shows whose whole runs were converted by GSN, they can't just run these show straight from the first episode to the end, without the constant minicycles and having around 30 "fresh" episodes of them a year. Thanks!
This is a somewhat fair question. As mentioned, though, some are already outdated. Also, GSN still owns that physical media. They may not own the rights, but they are under no obligation to give that media to Buzzr. Buzzr would have to pay them for it.
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I just hope nobody out there was too excited about Classic Concentration 90 in the 11am hour. They're showing the four most recent episodes, rolling back to 1988 shows on 8/3.
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Buzzr is promoting some Password (marathon? Fresh episodes?) For August 8th...no doubt due to the new version on NBC starting the night prior.
https://mobile.twitter.com/BUZZRtv/status/1551613325812940800
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Buzzr is promoting some Password (marathon? Fresh episodes?) For August 8th...no doubt due to the new version on NBC starting the night prior.
https://mobile.twitter.com/BUZZRtv/status/1551613325812940800
The SM post says “6pm EST,” so it’s apparently a scheduling stunt of some kind. Curious that it comes merely a week after this new schedule rolls out, though.
And, is that an ABC Password ep I see in that promo?
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And, is that an ABC Password ep I see in that promo?
Yep. Looks like the Brett Somers-Jack Klugman episode GSN aired years ago. Cool!
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And a very cute angle on some of the choices -- shows with Marc Summers and Brett Somers to mark summer.
-Jason
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And, is that an ABC Password ep I see in that promo?
Yep. Looks like the Brett Somers-Jack Klugman episode GSN aired years ago. Cool!
And on another note, I also see Bill Cullen-hosted PW+!
(Most of us have seen all of the above, but still neat for those who haven't)
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Buzzr is promoting some Password (marathon? Fresh episodes?) For August 8th...no doubt due to the new version on NBC starting the night prior.
https://mobile.twitter.com/BUZZRtv/status/1551613325812940800
The SM post says “6pm EST,” so it’s apparently a scheduling stunt of some kind. Curious that it comes merely a week after this new schedule rolls out, though.
And, is that an ABC Password ep I see in that promo?
Gasp! I wonder if this means they'll be playing more than just the Somers/Klugman episode of ABC Password (I know a few episodes exist in the UCLA archive)? Not holding my breath, but hey...a man can dream, right?
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Buzzr is promoting some Password (marathon? Fresh episodes?) For August 8th...no doubt due to the new version on NBC starting the night prior.
https://mobile.twitter.com/BUZZRtv/status/1551613325812940800
The SM post says “6pm EST,” so it’s apparently a scheduling stunt of some kind. Curious that it comes merely a week after this new schedule rolls out, though.
And, is that an ABC Password ep I see in that promo?
Gasp! I wonder if this means they'll be playing more than just the Somers/Klugman episode of ABC Password (I know a few episodes exist in the UCLA archive)? Not holding my breath, but hey...a man can dream, right?
If memory serves me right, the Showoffs aired during last years Lost & Fun came from UCLA and there was a small black screen thanking them at the end. I'm not giving up hope but this might be a good precedent to have been set.
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Buzzr is promoting some Password (marathon? Fresh episodes?) For August 8th...no doubt due to the new version on NBC starting the night prior.
https://mobile.twitter.com/BUZZRtv/status/1551613325812940800
According to NBC Insider, Password premieres August 9, the night after.
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Buzzr is promoting some Password (marathon? Fresh episodes?) For August 8th...no doubt due to the new version on NBC starting the night prior.
https://mobile.twitter.com/BUZZRtv/status/1551613325812940800
According to NBC Insider, Password premieres August 9, the night after.
Huh. Why did 8/7 sound like the date?
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New schedule or not, Buzzr is still starting their morning programming around 3 minutes early; for example, Whew! actually starts around 8:27am, not 8:30am. It's the old saying, the more things change, the more they remain the same.
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I just hope nobody out there was too excited about Classic Concentration 90 in the 11am hour. They're showing the four most recent episodes, rolling back to 1988 shows on 8/3.
You can get excited now. CC's 11AM and 11:30AM airings are fresh as of 8/8, starting with 2/1/90. (These shows repeat the following midnight in case you missed them.)
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New to BUZZR Celebrity Whew! episodes return this Monday, August 22, resuming with show 205, the 2nd episode with Rita Moreno and Ross Martin.
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I just hope nobody out there was too excited about Classic Concentration 90 in the 11am hour. They're showing the four most recent episodes, rolling back to 1988 shows on 8/3.
You can get excited now. CC's 11AM and 11:30AM airings are fresh as of 8/8, starting with 2/1/90. (These shows repeat the following midnight in case you missed them.)
And they'll end on 9/9, when we get to episode 741 (OAD: 4/11/90). Then it cycles back to 670 (1/2/90).
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I just hope nobody out there was too excited about Classic Concentration 90 in the 11am hour. They're showing the four most recent episodes, rolling back to 1988 shows on 8/3.
You can get excited now. CC's 11AM and 11:30AM airings are fresh as of 8/8, starting with 2/1/90. (These shows repeat the following midnight in case you missed them.)
And they'll end on 9/9, when we get to episode 741 (OAD: 4/11/90). Then it cycles back to 670 (1/2/90).
Buzzr's developed a recent habit of plugging in a repeat when they plan to skip an episode during a fresh batch, so I'll optimistically hold judgment until we get another week of schedules.
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Episode dates for "The Price Is Right 50th" week:
9/5, 4pm: 8/22/1961
9/5, 4:40pm: 8/30/1961
9/5, 5:20pm: 9/6/1961
9/6, 4pm: 9/13/1961
9/6, 4:40pm: 10/16/1961
9/6, 5:20pm: 11/9/1961
9/7, 4pm: 11/13/1961
9/7, 4:40pm: 11/16/1961
9/7. 5:20pm: 11/23/1961
9/8, 4pm: 12/25/1961
9/8, 4:40pm: 6/14/1961
9/8, 5:20pm: 2/22/1961
9/9, 4pm: 12/14/1960
9/9, 4:40pm: 6/22/1960
9/9, 5:20pm: 4/20/1960
A large chunk of these should be new to Buzzr. New or old, nice to have Uncle Bill and the girls back for a week.
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Episode dates for "The Price Is Right 50th" week:
9/5, 4pm: 8/22/1961
9/5, 4:40pm: 8/30/1961
9/5, 5:20pm: 9/6/1961
9/6, 4pm: 9/13/1961
9/6, 4:40pm: 10/16/1961
9/6, 5:20pm: 11/9/1961
9/7, 4pm: 11/13/1961
9/7, 4:40pm: 11/16/1961
9/7. 5:20pm: 11/23/1961
9/8, 4pm: 12/25/1961
9/8, 4:40pm: 6/14/1961
They must be picking up from where the last "fresh" episode aired on BUZZR.
Cordially,
Tammy
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Buzzr's developed a recent habit of plugging in a repeat when they plan to skip an episode during a fresh batch, so I'll optimistically hold judgment until we get another week of schedules.
They're already skipping one, though--733. So I would not be quite as optimistic. :)
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Buzzr's developed a recent habit of plugging in a repeat when they plan to skip an episode during a fresh batch, so I'll optimistically hold judgment until we get another week of schedules.
They're already skipping one, though--733. So I would not be quite as optimistic. :)
Ah, boo.
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Buzzr's developed a recent habit of plugging in a repeat when they plan to skip an episode during a fresh batch, so I'll optimistically hold judgment until we get another week of schedules.
They're already skipping one, though--733. So I would not be quite as optimistic. :)
Ah, boo.
And my pessimism was justified--671 and 673 air on 9/12.
Also, Buzzr airs ep 220 of WHEW! on 9/12, skips eps 221 and 222, airs 223, 224 and 225 on 9/13-15, then cycles back to 170 on 9/16.
Lastly, yesterday morning's choice rerun had an obvious edit at Level 1 (like the whole blooper was nuked). Shot in the dark here, but anybody know what was excised?
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Lastly, yesterday morning's choice rerun had an obvious edit at Level 1 (like the whole blooper was nuked). Shot in the dark here, but anybody know what was excised?
The same episode had a Gauntlet blooper about the term for people from Laos, in which the last word of the blooper was muted.
Unrelated, Talk About cycled back to the first episode last week after getting to early 1989.
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Lastly, yesterday morning's choice rerun had an obvious edit at Level 1 (like the whole blooper was nuked). Shot in the dark here, but anybody know what was excised?
The same episode had a Gauntlet blooper about the term for people from Laos, in which the last word of the blooper was muted.
Unrelated, Talk About cycled back to the first episode last week after getting to early 1989.
My guess: Laosy.
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Also, Buzzr airs ep 220 of WHEW! on 9/12, skips eps 221 and 222, airs 223, 224 and 225 on 9/13-15, then cycles back to 170 on 9/16.
The following week, Whew! picks up with 226-229 on Monday 9/19 through Thursday 9/22, then back to 171 on Friday 9/23.
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As absolutely my favorite guilty pleasure on the schedule:
Newlywed Game moves to the third and final 90s syndicated season on 9/26 - with an implication that season 2 only produced 130 first run shows.
The third season overhauls the set (again) and replaces the classic theme (again), but keeps Bob and the traditional format. .
Additionally, Whew! continues ahead after all with 230 on Monday, skips 231-232, then continues straight ahead on Tuesday with 233.
Also: Is Tattletales in new episodes? I don't keep track of this stuff, but they're airing 379-388 that week, and getting very close now to both a) 1976 and b) into the two and a half years GSN almost never touched.
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Contemporary TV Guides had today's episode (227) of Whew! as a Carolyn Jones/Michael Young episode, but it's a Richard Kline/Betty White episode.
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Also: Is Tattletales in new episodes? I don't keep track of this stuff, but they're airing 379-388 that week, and getting very close now to both a) 1976 and b) into the two and a half years GSN almost never touched.
As far as I know unless I've missed something (which wouldn't be the first time), they've gotten as far as 393 (that was this past February), and they are continuing through at least 410. But that only takes us up to the end of September/beginning of October.
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Buzzr dropped a promo for a Halloween-themed weekend of programming. Looks like we'll get Combs, Dawson '94, and Karn Feud, some MG '90, and '70s TTTT.
https://twitter.com/BUZZRtv/status/1579502167983280128?t=87t-ZUsS-YYvR8dJUArwfw&s=19