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Title: P+/Super Password question...
Post by: weaklink75 on May 26, 2022, 08:44:01 PM
I was watching some episodes of each lately, and I thought they used A-J in the endgame a lot; so I ended up going through about 200 bonus rounds (about split between the two shows, which is approximately 10% of the total bonus rounds between the two shows). Sure enough, A-J came up about 25% of the time (which makes sense, as based on the number of words starting with any given letter, the spread A-J has the best average). Anything with the LMN or RST spread came up pretty often as well. The only one of the 17 possible 10-letter spreads that didn't come up in the eps I watched was O-X; Q-Z seemed to be the combination to get the least common letters (since Z is only in that one spread). Does anyone remember any P+/SP episode that had a O-X endgame?
Title: Re: P+/Super Password question...
Post by: Bryce L. on May 26, 2022, 09:11:02 PM
I've not seen one, but then again I've never honestly tracked that either.

Though I do have a question for Chris... when the show was overbudget, were there any specific "showstopper" words you guys would deliberately use in Alphabetics to try to force a loss?
Title: Re: P+/Super Password question...
Post by: TLEberle on May 26, 2022, 10:17:09 PM
From what I recall their budget was less than $25,000 and they were typically able to keep it to four wins and two near misses on a regular basis, so they didn't need stopper words as opposed to Super Password that wanted those big jackpots.
Title: Re: P+/Super Password question...
Post by: MSTieScott on May 27, 2022, 02:18:11 AM
I would imagine that they wouldn't want to use O–X because the difficulty of the last word should feel satisfying, given that it's frequently the word that pays out the money. And the X words they would be likely to use in the bonus round were either too easy (XYLOPHONE, XEROX, X-RAY) or way too difficult (XENOPHOBIA? XERXES?), with no middle ground.

Maybe XAVIER could have been a good game-ender.
Title: Re: P+/Super Password question...
Post by: Jimmy Owen on May 27, 2022, 06:46:09 AM
I would imagine that they wouldn't want to use O–X because the difficulty of the last word should feel satisfying, given that it's frequently the word that pays out the money. And the X words they would be likely to use in the bonus round were either too easy (XYLOPHONE, XEROX, X-RAY) or way too difficult (XENOPHOBIA? XERXES?), with no middle ground.

Maybe XAVIER could have been a good game-ender.
. Francis.....
Title: Re: P+/Super Password question...
Post by: Fedya on May 27, 2022, 04:10:29 PM
CUGAT.
Title: Re: P+/Super Password question...
Post by: Otm Shank on May 27, 2022, 11:33:06 PM
Either I read it in the P+ bible or I've been sitting on my brain, but I think they had a provision to "wrap around" to the front of the alphabet. I don't recall it ever being implemented, though. An Alphabetics of U-V-W-X-Y-Z-A-B-C-D-E certainly would have signaled a busted budget.

Strikethrough on the ex post rectum, what I remembered was they could skip uncommon letters, but as far as I know, they never did. From the bible:
Quote
The ten words begin with ten consecutive
letters of the alphabet.  Because so few words start with
certain letters, e.g., Q and X, we may play a game such as
P - Z  announcing that we will skip the letter X.
Title: Re: P+/Super Password question...
Post by: chris319 on May 29, 2022, 11:12:00 PM
The Alphabetics rounds were set up by Bobby Sherman without much collaboration. I'm not aware that he had any special "stopper" words.

The prize expenditures on P+ were pretty level at $22,000 per week. That includes the main game and Alphabetics.