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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: Strikerz04 on April 01, 2022, 11:02:02 PM
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Victims include Match Game, Card Sharks, and The Hustler: https://tvline.com/2022/04/01/match-game-cancelled-abc-alec-baldwin-card-sharks-the-hustler/
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And all are on my Meh list. Not terribly interested in MG, as it seemed to have Harvey-itis, and well, anything post Rayburn and CBS never really clicks.
CS, again, "slow when it should be fast, fast when it should be slow." Not as botched as 2001, but they wasted the survey questions usually and tried to DOND all the card reveals.
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What James said. MG started off great IMO (I miss summer 2016), but after the first couple seasons it started feeling a little forced at times. It was almost a little too self-aware, and stopped feeling natural.
The Endemauling of CS never sat right with me either, all the way down to the slow reveals and peanut gallery during the Money Cards.
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Points for the MG reboot in re-creating the 70's motif.
Baldwin and his slew of 30 Rock/SNL panelists really made it feel like an elongated Saturday Night Live skit.
MG'7x set + MG'98 behavior = Baldwin MG.
CS, again, "slow when it should be fast, fast when it should be slow." Not as botched as 2001, but they wasted the survey questions usually and tried to DOND all the card reveals.
This.
McHale never "fit" as the host, plus too much glitz on the set.
Didn't watch enough of The Hustler
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MG had a nice run. They probably would have needed to get a new host given Alec's current situation. McHale was way too much of a wise aleck on CS. He made Eubanks look tame. I will not miss the Dating Game at all.
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Not a surprise on Match Game. While they said that covid kept them from taping episodes, it was already on the brink, and there is no way they were going back into production with the elephant in the room. I thought it was okay, it really scratched a nostalgic itch, and maybe it has a chance with a different host in 5 years or so.
Disappointed with Card Sharks. There was potential, but the writing was on the wall here. I like Joel McHale, but this seemed more like an improv role to him rather than hosting a game show. Not sure what was up with those frames they used to flip the cards, just give me the Goodson-trademarked wrist snap reveal. I settled in on some of the other changes though, but it just never clicked. Points for the best classic theme reboot since 1982 Pyramid.
Wasn't lured in to watch Dating Game, and it lost any chance with the "you're going to enjoy our all-new celebrity format." Wasn't that a category on the old Jump the Shark site?
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MG had a nice run. They probably would have needed to get a new host given Alec's current situation. McHale was way too much of a wise aleck on CS. He made Eubanks look tame. I will not miss the Dating Game at all.
If, by any stretch they were open to keeping MG (which they weren't), they could have easily moved McHale over to MG where he would have been better utilized.
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Card Sharks dragged and Joel Mchale looked like he didn't want to be there. They took the fun and excitement from the Perry/Eubanks version and came up with this bore. I always thought Alfonso Ribeiro would've make a good host for this show.
Match Game was ok they had some good celebrities. They tried way too hard to push the button and it looked too forced. Alec wasn't a good host nor funny.
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Victims include Match Game, Card Sharks, and The Hustler: https://tvline.com/2022/04/01/match-game-cancelled-abc-alec-baldwin-card-sharks-the-hustler/
Victims? Whatever.
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The civilians on MG had "wannabe actor working as a waiter" written all over them. Once on they were playing, "look at me ma, I'm on TV", vying for attention in direct competition with the panelists. Too many Froot Loops for breakfast.
On CBS, with a few exceptions the contestants were pretty sedate until they won money and ran to hug Dick Dawson. They left the hijinks to Brett and Charles.
Did they ever cast a contestant over, say, age 40 on this iteration of MG?
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Did they ever cast a contestant over, say, age 40 on this iteration of MG?
Yes. My elementary school PE teacher was a contestant on the first season, and given that she was an adult with a college degree roughly 30 years before then, that puts her solidly over the 40 mark.
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The civilians on MG had "wannabe actor working as a waiter" written all over them.
Yup, each with a resume that allows scripted bon mots from Alec upon introduction and spinning off. I generally liked Alec, but having him read jokes off cue cards detracted from a show legendary for spontaneity.
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Yup, each with a resume that allows scripted bon mots from Alec upon introduction and spinning off. I generally liked Alec, but having him read jokes off cue cards
I like Alec as an actor, but this - along with him feeling the need to yell "..........TWENTYFIVETHOUSANDDOLLARS!!!" every five minutes - got old very quick. It reminded me of how Louie Anderson and Richard Karn would toss to break on Family Feud with a lame one-liner about the survey question.
I also could never figure out if Alec was playing a character who thought hosting a game show was beneath him, or if he really felt that way.
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I also could never figure out if Alec was playing a character who thought hosting a game show was beneath him, or if he really felt that way.
Neither. He was playing himself without a character to hang his hat on.
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I like Alec as an actor, but this - along with him feeling the need to yell "..........TWENTYFIVETHOUSANDDOLLARS!!!" every five minutes - got old very quick. It reminded me of how Louie Anderson and Richard Karn would toss to break on Family Feud with a lame one-liner about the survey question.
I thought his way of saying it was stilted for effect. Producers wanted him to make it a big deal but exclaiming things isn't his style. He's not a zany demonstrative guy. Even the scripted jokes made fun of doing a game show, but as I recall he donated his fee, so he wasn't there against his will.
Richard Karn doubling the points was him trying to be zany because he was nothing else.
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I thought his way of saying it was stilted for effect. Producers wanted him to make it a big deal but exclaiming things isn't his style. He's not a zany demonstrative guy.
That's a great way to put it. Agreed 100%.
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I was never comfortable with Baldwin as host. He always seemed peeved. The Hustler wasn't fun to watch. Card Sharks is the real disappointment. The producers never figured out how to make the game into a self contained half-hour format. I really liked the presentation with the hubcap-sized poker chips. The set is the most dazzling I have ever witnessed.
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The Hustler was appointment viewing for my wife, so it was good for the family dynamic. The rest won't be missed.
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I watched precisely one episode of The Hustler. I really don’t know what so many of you saw in it. I really don’t. But so be it.
I’m not surprised Card Sharks bit the dust, because try as they might have, it just didn’t do the parent show any sort of justice. And I also felt that there was way too much chrome.
Match Game I still enjoyed but it was airing so infrequently that I’m amazed it made it as long as it did.
Didn’t really find much interest in Celebrity Dating Game, so no real substantive opinions on it from me.
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Word on the street is Supermarket Sweep is getting the Millionaire treatment and being "shelved" by ABC, not officially canceled:
https://tvseriesfinale.com/tv-show/supermarket-sweep-cancelled-for-good-abc-game-show-not-returning-for-2022-23-season/
I honestly think they know there is some huge potential there it just has to find its groove. Season 1 started strong and did well overall. Season 2 didn't fare as well but I still didn't think the ratings were terrible stacked up against Football.
I actually really liked this reboot and hate to see it go. It was fun. I looked at it as it's own entity removed from 90s version and thought it was decent. Sure there were some "opportunities" we could pick at but I thought it was done pretty well overall. Yes, Leslie could have toned it down some but I do like her and she was the reason it came back to begin with. Hopefully it comes back again soon or gets shopped around somewhere else.
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And apparently the new season of PYL starts tonight. Had no idea until earlier today.
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Also on tonight following PYL is The Generation Gap with your host, Kelly Ripa.
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And apparently the new season of PYL starts tonight. Had no idea until earlier today.
I knew....I guess I followed it carefully as that and Pyramid are my only appointment/must watch parts of the block(s).
(And we already have to wait 2 weeks for another episode?!!?)
Ow, a $200K+ Whammy. But she won her RV and still left the bonus game with 200K+ with a total of 300K, not bad. No top prize, but the contestant gets her dream prize and six figures, so a good premiere.
Prize-a-Palooza....could this be a crutch by the show's producers to attempt to hasten a $1 Million winner?
Yes I was happy when Elizabeth (re)introed the audience. But am I mishearing/misreading the captions and did she say "898 days"?
Since S3 was technically the only one with no audience, I think that is overselling it a tad...
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Prize-a-Palooza....could this be a crutch by the show's producers to attempt to hasten a $1 Million winner?
In my view, wanting to force a win is the only thing that could justify Prize-a-Palooza's existence, and even there I hesitate to use the word "justify", since gimmickry like that cheapens any win it produces. Almost analogous to the Million Dollar Mission garbage from Deal or No Deal back in the 00s.
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And apparently the new season of PYL starts tonight. Had no idea until earlier today.
I knew....I guess I followed it carefully as that and Pyramid are my only appointment/must watch parts of the block(s).
(And we already have to wait 2 weeks for another episode?!!?)
Ow, a $200K+ Whammy. But she won her RV and still left the bonus game with 200K+ with a total of 300K, not bad. No top prize, but the contestant gets her dream prize and six figures, so a good premiere.
Prize-a-Palooza....could this be a crutch by the show's producers to attempt to hasten a $1 Million winner?
Yes I was happy when Elizabeth (re)introed the audience. But am I mishearing/misreading the captions and did she say "898 days"?
Since S3 was technically the only one with no audience, I think that is overselling it a tad...
I'd imagine since they taped Season 3 at CBS Studio Center and they taped season 2 all the way back in January 2020, that's the gap she was referring to.
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Is it sacrilege to say I really liked having Elizabeth do the opening spiel instead of the announcer? (I assume it was only for this first episode of the season, of course.)
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Is it sacrilege to say I really liked having Elizabeth do the opening spiel instead of the announcer?
If it is sacrilege, I will be right behind you in the confessional line. I thought it was GREAT.
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Is it sacrilege to say I really liked having Elizabeth do the opening spiel instead of the announcer?
Given that she turned out to be a better announcer than the announcer? No.
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Is it sacrilege to say I really liked having Elizabeth do the opening spiel instead of the announcer?
Given that she turned out to be a better announcer than the announcer? No.
To be fair, the announcer is approaching 80 years old, and definitely peaked in the 80s:
https://youtu.be/S4m848bh1iY
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The announcer is Neil Ross, who was also GSN's announcer during the late 90s/early 2000s.
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Is it sacrilege to say I really liked having Elizabeth do the opening spiel instead of the announcer?
I think it was delivered well, and it was blocked well, with the turntable rotating to show the logo right on time. I would miss the opening win/whammy montage, but maybe there's a way to keep it AND Elizabeth's spiel?
Prize-a-Palooza....could this be a crutch by the show's producers to attempt to hasten a $1 Million winner?
In my view, wanting to force a win is the only thing that could justify Prize-a-Palooza's existence, and even there I hesitate to use the word "justify", since gimmickry like that cheapens any win it produces. Almost analogous to the Million Dollar Mission garbage from Deal or No Deal back in the 00s.
Taking the spoiler tags off, since this doesn't give away any outcomes.
Comparing it to the MDM is a little too extreme, considering we're taking about a 1/54 shot versus what eventually became a 50/50 shot at a million dollars. Consider that PaP only awards prizes currently showing on the board, not everything on offer. It wouldn't surprise me if there are configurations in the board shuffle where PaP is showing, but the $150k prize isn't. Even if PaP was hit for every prize on the board. you'd still have to accumulate roughly $200k elsewhere without hitting a whammy- no easy task.
EDIT: Okay, clearly I have too much spare time on this Sunday afternoon. Went back and watched the Big Bucks Bonanza and here's what I found for each board shuffle. In that round, the Prize-A-Palooza square showed up on TV 14 times, and here's what was shown:
Frequency shown on board for Prize-A-Palooza
Prize 1: (Least Expensive): 5 times
Prize 2: 8 times
Prize 3: 9 times
Prize 4: 8 times
Prize 5: (Most Expensive) 2 times (but was hit on first spin of BBB)
Unique Prizes shown on board for Prize-A-Palooza
1 Prize: 1 time
2 Prizes: 8 times
3 Prizes: 4 times
4 Prizes: 1 time
NOTE: one spin showed five prize spaces, with only three unique prizes and two duplicates.
So most likely, you're only going to win 2 prizes on Prize-A-Palooza, and provided you haven't already banked them, it'll most likely be some combination of your three middle prizes.
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^^ Another unknown about the P-A-P square that we don't know yet:
Is it a one-and-done square, like the Add-A-One or Double Your $$ + A Spin that can only be hit once per episode?
Or, like the personalized prizes, does it go back on the board after a round where a Whammy is hit?
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^^ Another unknown about the P-A-P square that we don't know yet:
Is it a one-and-done square, like the Add-A-One or Double Your $$ + A Spin that can only be hit once per episode?
I'd imagine it's probably removed after being hit, but until and unless it gets hit on a spin that isn't the final spin of the game, we won't know for sure.
Or, like the personalized prizes, does it go back on the board after a round where a Whammy is hit?
It only appears in the final round of the bonus game, so it's pretty safe to say if it is removed after being hit it doesn't come back.
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^^ Another unknown about the P-A-P square that we don't know yet:
Is it a one-and-done square, like the Add-A-One or Double Your $$ + A Spin that can only be hit once per episode?
I'd imagine it's probably removed after being hit, but until and unless it gets hit on a spin that isn't the final spin of the game, we won't know for sure.
Or, like the personalized prizes, does it go back on the board after a round where a Whammy is hit?
It only appears in the final round of the bonus game, so it's pretty safe to say if it is removed after being hit it doesn't come back.
As far as the 7/14 episode goes:
1) The PAP square remains a mystery.
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2) It was one helluva episode -- with at least one or two "firsts" -- one for the ABC PYL series and one for the 39-year old PYL series in general.
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2) It was one helluva episode -- with at least one or two "firsts" -- one for the ABC PYL series and one for the 39-year old PYL series in general.
Does one of them involve the number of prizes won by Debbie? I wasn't watching closely, were her front game winnings entirely prizes?
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2) It was one helluva episode -- with at least one or two "firsts" -- one for the ABC PYL series and one for the 39-year old PYL series in general.
Does one of them involve the number of prizes won by Debbie? I wasn't watching closely, were her front game winnings entirely prizes?
Half right. She won about $65K in cash. I believe the ABC record is her winning 3 of her dream prizes, and the overall record is her winning 10 prizes total. Becky (who won $33K in 1984) won 8.
That was definitely the most exciting game they've aired to date! This one also pretty much confirms that Neil Ross's announcing is done in post.
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What I was alluding to for #2:
What I was referring to was the fact that with her near-perfect game (no whammies + the bail out), Debbie becomes the highest prize/$$$ winner in PYL history to NOT hit any whammies.
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in 5 prize packages, she won 16 trips!!!
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What I was alluding to for #2:
What I was referring to was the fact that with her near-perfect game (no whammies + the bail out), Debbie becomes the highest prize/$$$ winner in PYL history to NOT hit any whammies.
If you're going to use spoiler tags, why not just say what it is you were going to say in the first place and not "allude" to anything?
Also, why are we using spoiler tags on a Big Board thread anyway? Shouldn't something like this be in Show Summaries?
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Man! All of these redactions, I don't know if I'm reading a message board or the Mueller Report.
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Man! All of these redactions, I don't know if I'm reading a message board or the Mueller Report.
Unlike the Mueller report, at least the redactions doesn't give me a conniption fit.
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They're trying to get somebody to win the million. Not just with Prize-a-Palooza, but with the last personalized prize creeping closer and closer to being worth $200,000. Plus, each season, there are slightly fewer Whammies in the bonus game:
Season two
$10K round: 6 Whammies
$25K round: 8 Whammies
$50K round: 10 Whammies
$75K round: 11 Whammies
$100K round: 12 Whammies
Season three
$10K round: 5 Whammies
$25K round: 7 Whammies
$50K round: 9 Whammies
$75K round: 10 Whammies
$100K round: 11 Whammies
Season four
$10K round: 5 Whammies
$25K round: 6 Whammies
$50K round: 9 Whammies
$75K round: 10 Whammies
$100K round: 11 Whammies
They've also added an extra instance of each personalized prize to the board in the $10K round this season in an attempt to get contestants to hit the meaningful prizes earlier.
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Again, I thought there was a Summaries page for this, and we VERY specifically do not talk about results of a current show in any form on The Big Board, redactions or not.