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The Game Show Forum => Game Show Channels & Networks => Topic started by: bwood on October 13, 2021, 03:24:16 PM
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Just got an email from Buzzr with a graphic that a "Big Announcement" is coming soon. The background was light blue with white lattice. Only thing that comes to mind is the Newlywed Game but being a Sony property you would have to wonder. I don't know what else it could be though? I have no clue how to post a snapshot of it on here though.
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LOL! I was trying to figure out how to do the same thing! I don't know what else it could be. This could be a big get for Buzzr.
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Yep, right there with you on that bet. Another series from the old survey! Also betting that's why Bob's Card Sharks got another slot in the morning so NG can slide into the evening airing. Just a guess. If this pans out, how exciting that we'd have the first Sony library product!
https://imgur.com/a/KxvOPQg
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No "Celebrity Sweepstakes" then I guess? :)
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No "Celebrity Sweepstakes" then I guess? :)
Oh crap...you're right! It could also be, that was behind the contestants.
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If anyone has this email, I'd be interested in seeing a screenshot. I am late to the Buzzr emails party. Thanks in advance!
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I actually wouldn’t be surprised if it is Newlywed Game- Sony may not consider Buzzr direct competition, and it benefits both parties (Sony gets some use out of their library that they may not be using, and Buzzr gets more programming)
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There is a link with Burt Sugarman between Celebrity Sweepstakes and Whew…
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There is a link with Burt Sugarman between Celebrity Sweepstakes and Whew…
The biggest link, though, is that Wink Martindale/Winc. has been trying to sell both shows.
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I wish I could post it on here. It screams Newlywed Game. The color is absolutely identical and the way it looks is exactly like the area behind Bob.
It doesn't say Celebrity Sweepstakes to me but I could be wrong. If they were doing that show you think they would go a different route for a hint.
Also, I thought it was greenish behind the lattice on that show?
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I wish I could post it on here. It screams Newlywed Game. The color is absolutely identical and the way it looks is exactly like the area behind Bob.
I thought it was greenish behind the lattice on that show?
The greenish stuff was added later in the run, but the wall behind the lattice itself appears to have been the same blue color.
And I also agree with you that's it's more likely Newlywed Game, but I guess we'll just have to wait and see...
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Here's the image that Blanquepage linked to:
(https://i.postimg.cc/nLwrMN3x/fh-Kyv7-S-d.webp)
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I just can't see Newlywed Game being the first Sony show Buzzr would go after. Given that both Whew and Celebrity Sweepstakes are being represented by Winc. now, my money is on that.
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So if this is true, we may someday hear "in the butt" on Buzzr :)
If it had to be a Barris show, I personally wish it had been Treasure Hunt. But it does look like the NG set.
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Honestly another reason I'm banking on TNG is the fact that Celebrity Sweepstakes is such a niche show that not many people remember outside of our group of Game Show Fans. I know the same argument goes for Whew! but I feel they added that to satisfy our core group of hard-core fans and was looking for their next acquisition to have a more broad appeal. TNG would be a huge acquisition. I'm not a huge fan of it but I understand the recognition it gets as a classic that most average people remember. However, I understand there is also promotional power with Celebrity Sweepstakes the same way with Whew! as it has not been seen in years. Something just tells me they are looking for the next show they get outside of their core library to be a big one and TNG would be big.
I'm just happy we have this channel and the lengths they are going to appeal to us and the general public. They truly seem like a class act operation.
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I just can't see Newlywed Game being the first Sony show Buzzr would go after. Given that both Whew and Celebrity Sweepstakes are being represented by Winc. now, my money is on that.
Ok Greg, I'm going to be in Atlanta next week from the 19th-24th for a family gathering. If the announcement breaks between now and then that it's CS, which I've posted numerous times I'm hoping for, then drinks are on me all night for both you and Nick. Just one night, mind you :P
That lattice is more identifiable with Newlywed Game, IMHO. Also, there were Sony properties on that survey we took, including WOF, J!, and The Dating Game. Of four, this one seems to be the least tied up airing somewhere else...
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In the months prior to the announcement that Whew was unearthed and headed to Buzzr, Winc.'s YouTube page posted a couple of new-to-us Whew episodes. Haven't seen any new-to-us episodes of Celebrity Sweepstakes...yet. But then again, if some CS episodes pop up, then most of us could guess that they're coming to Buzzr, as now they have tapped Burt Sugarman's shows.
OTOH, GSN still airs Match Game 7x and all the Harvey Feud you can stomach (both Fremantle properties).
Since Sony is sitting on (and not airing) the original Barris NG episodes, perhaps this is a "trade" (Letting Buzzr air Eubanks NG episodes + who knows what else, and Fremantle will continue to let you air old MG & Harvey Feud).
If it is Newlywed Game, I hope they air the 60s-70's eps and not the 80's-90's incarnations -- mostly to mesh better with the majority of their programs that are 40+ years old.
Here is an early 2022 prediction: Buzzr gets the rights from Sony to air Martindale-hosted Tic Tac Dough episodes via trade.or lease (to commence with the NBC airing of Bergeron's TTD reboot).
We'll see...
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So, what's left for holy grail collections for Buzzr to air : Heatter Quigley shows? Gambit? High Rollers? Battlestars?
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So, what's left for holy grail collections for Buzzr to air : Heatter Quigley shows? Gambit? High Rollers? Battlestars?
"One of these stars is sitting in the secret square..."
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So, what's left for holy grail collections for Buzzr to air : Heatter Quigley shows? Gambit? High Rollers? Battlestars?
High Rollers exists in full. Signs point to Gambit being gone, as all Winc had posted are rather shoddy personal recordings. There's a vacuum-sealed Baffle ep 12 with slate, which makes me wonder why that one would have been saved if it were wiped. After having screened it and witnessing Dick's initial clumsiness, I doubt it was to shop the series around. I'd wonder why they HQ would let Battlestars get erased...especially since they had enough faith in it to bring it back. Were there any syndication efforts? I'd like to think by that time, companies would intervene to prevent the wiping of their network product given how B&E shopped CBS reruns of TJW to get popularity enough for a revival.
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Whether it's The Newlywed Game or Celebrity Sweepstakes (my mind will be blown either way), can we give a shout out to whomever has been in charge of acquisitions over at Buzzr the past 3 years? Ever since they got the rights to Classic Concentration back in '18, they have been en fuego with shows most of us thought we'd never see again due to them being lost or just a bunch of red tape. I'd like to thank them for their hard work and dedication.
I don't know who these red tape breakers are, but I want to buy whoever this person (people) is (are) a drink.
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So, what's left for holy grail collections for Buzzr to air : Heatter Quigley shows? Gambit? High Rollers? Battlestars?
"One of these stars is sitting in the secret square..."
Since Buzzr currently airs the MGHS Hour, Marshall's HS would be the H-Q show for them to acquire. In my opinion, the celebs on HS were more famous than the ones on Match Game. Paul Lynde, Rose Marie and Vincent Price vs. Brett Somers, Bill Daily and Joyce Bulifant.
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In terms of holy grail collections for Buzzr to air: Does Winc. have access to the rest of the Jay Wolpert Productions library or just Whew!?
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In terms of holy grail collections for Buzzr to air: Does Winc. have access to the rest of the Jay Wolpert Productions library or just Whew!?
I'd assume just Whew! since it's owned by Burt Sugarman and not Wolpert.
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Were there any syndication efforts? I'd like to think by that time, companies would intervene to prevent the wiping of their network product given how B&E shopped CBS reruns of TJW to get popularity enough for a revival.
Yet Password 70s was still erased, even after a successful syndication of Password 60s.
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I'm going to predict its Buzzr timeslot right now: A replacement for the 8PM Classic Concentration (since the new eps. have always been put in at 1PM)
EDIT: I just realized they could do something more... They can move Card Sharks to before Sweep to give is "Love Is in the Cards with Bob Eubanks."
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So, what's left for holy grail collections for Buzzr to air : Heatter Quigley shows? Gambit? High Rollers? Battlestars?
High Rollers exists in full.
.........stupid question, but is this the Trebek run (rather, *runs*)?
/if so, then I was today years old when I found out
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Were there any syndication efforts? I'd like to think by that time, companies would intervene to prevent the wiping of their network product given how B&E shopped CBS reruns of TJW to get popularity enough for a revival.
Yet Password 70s was still erased, even after a successful syndication of Password 60s.
Given how established Password was by then, from a business standpoint, did G-T really need to preserve those tapes to sell future iterations? In fact, neither ABC Password nor Password Plus had a pilot, right? Not exactly apples to apples, in background context. My thought is behind those series that weren't decades-long successes that had hopes for being shopped around. The fact that Winc has been trying to sell Celebrity Sweepstakes clearly confirms there exists product to sell. NBC High Rollers exists, and it was ultimately syndicated for a bit. We really need to reevaluate our past acceptances of why certain series are gone, and what may still remain unbeknownst to us, the not-in-the-biz audience.
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So, what's left for holy grail collections for Buzzr to air : Heatter Quigley shows? Gambit? High Rollers? Battlestars?
High Rollers exists in full.
.........stupid question, but is this the Trebek run (rather, *runs*)?
/if so, then I was today years old when I found out
At least the 1974-1976 run is intact, no idea about 1978-1980.
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I'm going to predict its Buzzr timeslot right now: A replacement for the 8PM Classic Concentration (since the new eps. have always been put in at 1PM)
EDIT: I just realized they could do something more... They can move Card Sharks to before Sweep to give is "Love Is in the Cards with Bob Eubanks."
So, are you envisioning something like this, maybe?
8:00pm: Newlywed Game 77
8:30pm: Card Sharks 86
9:00pm: Supermarket Sweep 5
9:30pm: Super Password 85
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High Rollers exists in full. Signs point to Gambit being gone, as all Winc had posted are rather shoddy personal recordings.
And were it not for those "shoddy personal recordings" we would have a grand total of one shoddy episode. As someone who does a good job unearthing rare episodes, I'm kinda surprised by the less-than-diplomatic wording.
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High Rollers exists in full. Signs point to Gambit being gone, as all Winc had posted are rather shoddy personal recordings.
And were it not for those "shoddy personal recordings" we would have a grand total of one shoddy episode. As someone who does a good job unearthing rare episodes, I'm kinda surprised by the less-than-diplomatic wording.
You're right, poor self-editing. Less than broadcast quality recordings. The point I was going for was that if Gambit existed, I'd think by now we'd have seen uploads in the same quality of the High Rollers pilot or the '79 Gambit pilot. I guess we could just ask...
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Wasn't Gambit on in reruns somewhere a good while after its original run concluded? I'd be surprised if they saw value then, only to subsequently destroy the tapes.
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Wasn't Gambit on in reruns somewhere a good while after its original run concluded? I'd be surprised if they saw value then, only to subsequently destroy the tapes.
Yes. Jack Rhodes had it on KHJ for a while. I want to say 1977.. Filmways owned Rhodes and was swallowed by Orion in the early 80s and merged into MGM eventually. They may not know they have it.
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Wasn't Gambit on in reruns somewhere a good while after its original run concluded? I'd be surprised if they saw value then, only to subsequently destroy the tapes.
Yes. Jack Rhodes had it on KHJ for a while. I want to say 1977.. Filmways owned Rhodes and was swallowed by Orion in the early 80s and merged into MGM eventually. They may not know they have it.
Wow, news to me. Well that's at least a glimmer of hope!
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I'm going to predict its Buzzr timeslot right now: A replacement for the 8PM Classic Concentration (since the new eps. have always been put in at 1PM)
EDIT: I just realized they could do something more... They can move Card Sharks to before Sweep to give is "Love Is in the Cards with Bob Eubanks."
So, are you envisioning something like this, maybe?
8:00pm: Newlywed Game 77
8:30pm: Card Sharks 86
9:00pm: Supermarket Sweep 5
9:30pm: Super Password 85
Exactly that, yes.
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There is a link with Burt Sugarman between Celebrity Sweepstakes and Whew…
I seem to recall, in 1987, Chuck Barris no longer was directly involved in the production of The New Newlywed Game, nor the All-New Dating Game, and some then unfamiliar names showed up in the credits (including Scott Sternberg, for example). On one of the daytime talk shows, IIRC, Bob Eubanks had mentioned he was working for Burt Sugarman, so I don't know if Sugarman's company was in charge of production of those shows or not.
There were all kinds of production changes starting in early 1988 (about the midpoint of the '87/'88 season). Some cosmetic changes to TNNG, as well as Eubanks' relocation to between couples #2 and #3. Then in fall '88, first the game used a money scoring system; and by December, new host Paul Rodriguez. Whether or not Sugarman was involved with the show's transitioning at that time or not, I'm not sure; but I also wondered if Eubanks was not pleased with the changes, and if it influenced his departure, especially since it happened at around the mid-season point.
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My understanding was that Bob was going to leave anyway if the show got renewed for the 1989-1990 season, as he was trying to sell All-Star Secrets for fall of 1989. I think, though, it was pretty much assumed the show was going to be cancelled so he left in December of 1988.
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My mom is probably the definition of a casual game show fan. She will sometimes watch current Wheel/J!/Feud if it’s on, though nowhere near every day. She occasionally watches BUZZR or GSN, but doesn’t necessarily go out of her way to do so. She has a fondness for the older shows, though, and while she’s not nearly as hardcore of a fan as most of us here, she knows a little something about the classics. I showed her the teaser graphic, without mentioning any specific shows. She paused for about three seconds, then said, “Um, is it the Newlywed Game?”
So yeah, either BUZZR is bringing TNG on board, or this is the biggest game show-related bait-&-switch of the last decade.
As for TNG seeming like an odd choice for BUZZR’s first Sony show… I get that. But I could see TNG being something of a “trial balloon.” TNG is probably the most recognizable “1A tier” Sony show to mainstream viewers. And if they’re working on a deal for classic Wheel/J! but one side or the other is hesitant on the terms or asking price, they may have agreed to run TNG, and if it hits the targets both sides want, they’ll be more comfortable signing a bigger deal for the top tier shows. They might even have a deal already in place to run Wheel/J!/possibly Pyramid, contingent on TNG hitting its targets. And this is purely conjecture, but I have my doubts that BUZZR would pursue Sony’s 1A-&-lower tier shows very hard unless they thought they had a good chance at getting the two big guns as well.
Also, if BUZZR is just dying to have a relationship game show, TNG would probably be more palatable to their core audience than Bzzz! was. (I’m not sure why they’d be dying to have one, but I’m also not sure why they singled out that particular genre on that one survey. Maybe there’s a key sponsor that really wants it.)
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Also, if BUZZR is just dying to have a relationship game show, TNG would probably be more palatable to their core audience than Bzzz! was. (I’m not sure why they’d be dying to have one, but I’m also not sure why they singled out that particular genre on that one survey. Maybe there’s a key sponsor that really wants it.)
Don't they already have that genre, if you count Tattletales? (Which, by the way, starts fresh episodes on Monday November 1, episode 0354.)
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Also, if BUZZR is just dying to have a relationship game show, TNG would probably be more palatable to their core audience than Bzzz! was. (I’m not sure why they’d be dying to have one, but I’m also not sure why they singled out that particular genre on that one survey. Maybe there’s a key sponsor that really wants it.)
Don't they already have that genre, if you count Tattletales? (Which, by the way, starts fresh episodes on Monday November 1, episode 0354.)
You could certainly argue that point. In that survey, though, I recall the question specifically being asked if respondents would be interested in seeing dating and relationship shows on BUZZR, as if they didn’t have one already. (I do wish we had a transcript or screencaps from that survey.) I don’t know, maybe they count Tattletales as more of a celebrity show, whereas civilian relationship shows would be a different category. Just guessing as to what their thinking might have been.
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If they sent out a tease with an asterisk background, would you guess TPIR or Dating Game?
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If they sent out a tease with an asterisk background, would you guess TPIR or Dating Game?
Well, the Goodson-Todman asterisk is six-sided, and The Dating Game's asterisk is five-sided. So I'm not sure that's a good question.
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If they sent out a tease with an asterisk background, would you guess TPIR or Dating Game?
Well, the Goodson-Todman asterisk is six-sided, and The Dating Game's asterisk is five-sided. So I'm not sure that's a good question.
. Did not realize that. What about The Mike Douglas Show's Game Show Host week?
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I'm going to predict its Buzzr timeslot right now: A replacement for the 8PM Classic Concentration (since the new eps. have always been put in at 1PM)
EDIT: I just realized they could do something more... They can move Card Sharks to before Sweep to give is "Love Is in the Cards with Bob Eubanks."
So, are you envisioning something like this, maybe?
8:00pm: Newlywed Game 77
8:30pm: Card Sharks 86
9:00pm: Supermarket Sweep 5
9:30pm: Super Password 85
Exactly that, yes.
Apologies, but there's just no way BUZZR is going to remove Alex from primetime. Maybe Match Game PM's slot, or some other slot non-primetime to test the waters.
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Newlywed Game confirmed. Starts November 15.
https://twitter.com/BUZZRtv/status/1450492194809319424
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It's official :
Newlywed Game.
An ad Buzzr posted on FB says it hasn't been seen on over the air tv in 20 years. How can that be , esp with the new version on GSN for a few seasons?
If they're going to go back into the archives for this - great. Otherwise, i'm just not a fan and don't need to see the 97 version played again.
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An ad Buzzr posted on FB says it hasn't been seen on over the air tv in 20 years. How can that be , esp with the new version on GSN for a few seasons?
If they're going to go back into the archives for this - great. Otherwise, i'm just not a fan and don't need to see the 97 version played again.
It's technically correct: it hasn't been seen "over the air" in over 20 years--the last syndicated run ended in 1999, and GSN is a cable channel. Even though Buzzr is sometimes thought of as a cable channel, it's technically a digital broadcast channel.
Judging by the picture, it's the 1997-1999 Eubanks version. Yawn.
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Apologies, but there's just no way BUZZR is going to remove Alex from primetime. Maybe Match Game PM's slot, or some other slot non-primetime to test the waters.
Now that we know what show it is, my guess is it takes the 10pm hour to replace MGHSH. Eubanks's Card Sharks now has the 9:30 PM slot, so you get 90 minutes of him.
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From the social post: “ The Newlywed Game is heading to BUZZR over the air and on cable starting November 15th.”
I’m wondering if this wording means they don’t have the rights to run it on the streaming feed, only OTA/cable.
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An ad Buzzr posted on FB says it hasn't been seen on over the air tv in 20 years. How can that be , esp with the new version on GSN for a few seasons?
If they're going to go back into the archives for this - great. Otherwise, i'm just not a fan and don't need to see the 97 version played again.
It's technically correct: it hasn't been seen "over the air" in over 20 years--the last syndicated run ended in 1999, and GSN is a cable channel. Even though Buzzr is sometimes thought of as a cable channel, it's technically a digital broadcast channel.
Judging by the picture, it's the 1997-1999 Eubanks version. Yawn.
Now wondering when GSN last reran the '90s version. (and the Twitter post says "not seen on TV" only)
If it will only be that version, a sizeable asterisk comes with it, needless to say. Sony doesn't seem too proud to acknowledge anything before the 90s, it seems...so if they're only getting the '97 version, I wonder if it was Sony that insisted on leasing out more contemporary episodes? Then again, we don't know which episodes yet for sure, so who knows?
Now that we know what show it is, my guess is it takes the 10pm hour to replace MGHSH. Eubanks's Card Sharks now has the 9:30 PM slot, so you get 90 minutes of him.
If it wasn't short-lived, I'd have said perhaps Trivia Trap, CS, and NG. But this sounds more like it. It also depends how many episodes they get/which version(s). An hour a day on the weekdays will burn through episodes really quick.
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I’m wondering if this wording means they don’t have the rights to run it on the streaming feed, only OTA/cable.
More likely that the streaming version of the channel doesn't even show up as so much as a blip on their distribution radar, as made evident by the number of ad sales made on it.
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I’m wondering if this wording means they don’t have the rights to run it on the streaming feed, only OTA/cable.
More likely that the streaming version of the channel doesn't even show up as so much as a blip on their distribution radar, as made evident by the number of ad sales made on it.
Definitely eating my words on this acquisition.
Their streaming channel is on so many platforms, it has to be a moneymaker. So its odd that the wording specifically leaves it out.
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Their streaming channel is on so many platforms, it has to be a moneymaker. So its odd that the wording specifically leaves it out.
From what, carriage fees? They literally run nothing but house ads on it otherwise. What kind of carriage fees can they command?
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Their streaming channel is on so many platforms, it has to be a moneymaker. So its odd that the wording specifically leaves it out.
From what, carriage fees? They literally run nothing but house ads on it otherwise. What kind of carriage fees can they command?
There are no ads on the stream on their website, but the various streaming platforms insert their own ads (Pluto especially) so I'm guessing there's a revenue sharing agreement.
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From what, carriage fees? They literally run nothing but house ads on it otherwise. What kind of carriage fees can they command?
One of the streaming services (STIRR, I believe) said awhile back that Buzzr was the second most watched network on their platform. So there's that.
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There are no ads on the stream on their website, but the various streaming platforms insert their own ads (Pluto especially) so I'm guessing there's a revenue sharing agreement.
Oh, you are probably right. I forget that I record the direct stream from the website.
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Oh, it's Newlywed Game? Yawn.
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Their streaming channel is on so many platforms, it has to be a moneymaker. So its odd that the wording specifically leaves it out.
From what, carriage fees? They literally run nothing but house ads on it otherwise. What kind of carriage fees can they command?
There are no ads on the stream on their website, but the various streaming platforms insert their own ads (Pluto especially) so I'm guessing there's a revenue sharing agreement.
Yeah, from what I understand, most of the free ad-supported streaming TV providers--the major ones anyway--operate on a revenue-sharing arrangement.
And you're right, there's definitely money being made: (https://www.fiercevideo.com/video/pluto-tv-tubi-and-others-will-see-u-s-fast-market-hit-4-4b-by-2023)
https://www.fiercevideo.com/video/pluto-tv-tubi-and-others-will-see-u-s-fast-market-hit-4-4b-by-2023
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And...we now have a teaser promo, whoopee!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wG2tMdDY_Uw
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Oh, it's Newlywed Game? Yawn.
3/10. You’re not even trying anymore.
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I for one am pleased to see Newlywed Game confirmed as a new BUZZR entry. In fact, I'd developed an quite appreciation for it as I digitized more and more episodes from my old GSN-addict VHS stockpiles. Just 331 more eps to go! Oi. Anyhow, I'd be surprised if they only air the 90's version. Seems like folks are jumping to that conclusion based off the screengrab. Double oi.
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I would have preferred Celebrity Sweepstakes but I'm not surprised it turned out to be Newlywed Game. Hopefully they'll show some of the '70s episodes, which I think we among the better ones.
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While I’m happy to hear that the “Sony would never allow Buzzr to air their content” rumor is officially put to bed, I just remembered that Game TV in Canada has aired reruns of Eubanks’ version from the ‘90s in the past along with Jim Caldwell’s “Tic Tac Dough”, “Bumper Stumpers”, and Dick Clark’s “$100,000 Pyramid”. Maybe Buzzr took a page from their playbook?
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I mean, if that's the package Sony is offering and the numbers work, I'd take it.
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Newsflash- the 90s Eubanks version is more than 20 years ago. That’s the equivalent of running Match Game ‘78 in 2000.
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I would have preferred Celebrity Sweepstakes but I'm not surprised it turned out to be Newlywed Game. Hopefully they'll show some of the '70s episodes, which I think we among the better ones.
Agreed. The 90's version was somewhat enjoyable the first time around for a bit, but after a while it felt like it was missing the spark that made the 60s-earlier 80s versions far superior.
IMOH, I felt Bob was just going through the motions in the 90s version in the same way Pat has phoned it on Wheel in the last umpteen years.
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Just saw a blurb on during Concentration, the evening airing of Eubanks' CS is indeed just keeping the seat warm for it. 9:30pm.
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From the social post: “ The Newlywed Game is heading to BUZZR over the air and on cable starting November 15th.”
I’m wondering if this wording means they don’t have the rights to run it on the streaming feed, only OTA/cable.
I suspect you're correct based on their post today. Digital (online streaming) rights are complicated.
(https://i.postimg.cc/fTN0KRqP/20211029-120813.jpg)
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So 30 minute test pattern for those of us watching via stream?
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So 30 minute test pattern for those of us watching via stream?
They'll plug in another show. I remember for a short time, some of the streaming services were getting Classic Concentration instead of LMAD.
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So 30 minute test pattern for those of us watching via stream?
Right? I'd find that super surprising, but I suppose we will find out. :)
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So 30 minute test pattern for those of us watching via stream?
Probably what's currently in those slots now will just remain where they are for the stream.
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So 30 minute test pattern for those of us watching via stream?
They'll plug in another show. I remember for a short time, some of the streaming services were getting Classic Concentration instead of LMAD.
I thought about LMAD being temporarily held up for streaming also. After a week or two, IIRC, LMAD finally joined the schedule for streamers. So maybe this is a temporary holdup & streamers will eventually be able to see TNG as well.
But then again, I don’t remember them ever specifying OTA & cable in LMAD’s promos. :-\
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So for those that only have access to the streaming version of the channel, I guess our only hope is for a generous YouTuber out there that will post some of the episodes on their channel, huh?
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Anyhow, I'd be surprised if they only air the 90's version. Seems like folks are jumping to that conclusion based off the screengrab. Double oi.
It looks like it is the '90s version. BUZZR just started a promo today with clips from the show and they were from the 90s version.
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Well colour me surprised, indeed. I only recently learned on here that the 90's version has already been in reruns in Canada, perhaps it's the same package? Either way, I underappreciated it during the GSN "Dark Period", but as an adult I enjoy it immensely ;D
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The promo also definitively specifies that it will only be available over-the-air and on cable. Wonder what show the stream will plug in instead.
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The promo also definitively specifies that it will only be available over-the-air and on cable. Wonder what show the stream will plug in instead.
Maybe keep the Eubanks CS there?
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From the social post: “ The Newlywed Game is heading to BUZZR over the air and on cable starting November 15th.”
I’m wondering if this wording means they don’t have the rights to run it on the streaming feed, only OTA/cable.
I suspect you're correct based on their post today. Digital (online streaming) rights are complicated.
Indeed they are.
As it’s been explained to me in the past, this is a big part of why most networks that heavily rely on leased library titles (i.e. MeTV) don’t stream. Many of the deals for OTA & cable don’t carry over to streaming and would have to be reworked to include it. Whereas this doesn’t so much affect a network like BUZZR, where the parent company owns most of what they play outright, and the handful of shows that do have a leased component came after the fact & probably had a streaming provision written into the deal.
(This also apparently was a reason why we got the TPIR Barker Era channel even though the show for now remains embargoed on OTA/cable. Once Fremantle & CBS reached a deal, whatever red tape was keeping it off traditional TV didn’t apply to streaming. And if anyone, be it Barker’s people or whomever, tried to make an issue of it, Fremantle & CBS could rightly tell them to pound sand.)
What’s befuddling me a bit with TNG, though, is why BUZZR would bother with apparently paying to acquire it when a big chunk of their audience won’t be able to see it—especially in light of what we’ve recently learned about the financial and viewership boon streaming has been for them (http://www.gameshowforum.org/index.php/topic,33524.0.html). BUZZR has typically been good about making sure all their ducks were in a row on things like this (Wordplay notwithstanding). Was it that when Sony comes knocking, you don’t turn them down if you want any shot at working with them later? Or did Sony simply make them an offer they just couldn’t refuse?
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The promo also definitively specifies that it will only be available over-the-air and on cable. Wonder what show the stream will plug in instead.
Maybe keep the Eubanks CS there?
I’m guessing either that, or Dawson Feud, which seems to be their go-to streaming filler as of late.
Also curious what they’ll do with that 11AM morning slot.
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Starting 11/16, we get an hour of Jack; Now You See It will follow Concentration! Morning Supermarket Sweep will move to follow Newlywed Game. (Source: TV Passport)
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Of course, damn if we know what us streaming chumps will be seeing at 11.
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Of course, damn if we know what us streaming chumps will be seeing at 11.
Enjoy the whimsy and novelty of an actual surprise?
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No thanks, I get enough of those in my real life.
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Of course, damn if we know what us streaming chumps will be seeing at 11.
Everything on the app or website is a happy bonus. I expect nothing and love when i5 is something I enjoy. I’d TNG doesn’t jump to the streaming side I’m no worse for the wear.
Chumps indeed.
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Starting 11/16, we get an hour of Jack; Now You See It
I somehow read this as You Don't Know Jack and thought "well that came out of left field".
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I just got ahold of Buzzr's press release for The Newlywed Game. It mentions they are starting with season 2 of this version, but they will be going on to season 3 and then season 1 afterward (which I guess means they'll be showing the Kroeger episodes.)
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The thing missing from this version was the nonsexual questions that often resulted in some of the best bloopers. I.E. "What's your favorite pasta"
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I just got ahold of Buzzr's press release for The Newlywed Game. It mentions they are starting with season 2 of this version, but they will be going on to season 3 and then season 1 afterward (which I guess means they'll be showing the Kroeger episodes.)
Gary Kroeger hasn't mentioned this on his Facebook feed. Maybe he doesn't know?
The thing missing from this version was the nonsexual questions that often resulted in some of the best bloopers. I.E. "What's your favorite pasta"
I may be a minority of one, but these questions bugged the crap out of me. The sexual innuendo questions are to be expected; these seem a mean-spirited way to see how ignorant some of the newlyweds are.
I didn't watch the show carefully enough to know the answer to this: what would happen if, after Bob posed a question such as this, the first spouse queried not only knew what the term meant but explained it in the course of giving their predicted answer? (Probably he'd been directed in advance, "Start the questioning with Couple #3, because they're idiots.")
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I didn't watch the show carefully enough to know the answer to this: what would happen if, after Bob posed a question such as this, the first spouse queried not only knew what the term meant but explained it in the course of giving their predicted answer? (Probably he'd been directed in advance, "Start the questioning with Couple #3, because they're idiots.")
My own observation would suggest your first scenario of a contestant explaining the question in their answer would be impossibly rare to begin with. A typical player response: "I'd say spaghetti, because she's always making it," not "I'd say linguine because that is a type of noodle, which is what you asked me." That, and I've seen these types of questions where the first spouse or two understood it, and the third or fourth would still give a nonsensical answer confidently.
Beyond that, I think the show knows/knew the risks of asking those questions to begin with, which still play legitimately when everybody understands them. But even if the first half of each couple understood, they always had a chance the contestants in isolation could find their gold.
-Jason
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I’m guessing either that, or Dawson Feud, which seems to be their go-to streaming filler as of late.
You called it; Dawson Feud is on the stream right now.
Episode is Gilich/Morris, #80-152, for those who keep track of that.
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I’m guessing either that, or Dawson Feud, which seems to be their go-to streaming filler as of late.
You called it; Dawson Feud is on the stream right now.
Episode is Gilich/Morris, #80-152, for those who keep track of that.
And at 12:30, we got Morris/Picciano, #80-153.
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11:00am, Morris/Bazil, #80-154
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I’m guessing either that, or Dawson Feud, which seems to be their go-to streaming filler as of late.
You called it; Dawson Feud is on the stream right now.
Episode is Gilich/Morris, #80-152, for those who keep track of that.
And at 12:30, we got Morris/Picciano, #80-153.
I’m wondering if they’re also using the TNG/FF time slot to experiment a bit with the order of episodes shown. The Plex guide, which shows episode numbers, is still saying TNG (presumably they will fix that eventually if TNG isn’t going to stream anytime soon), but it’s showing a different episode in nearly every time slot. For the 11AM slot, it said TNG was already up to S2-Ep 6. (I’m not in a BUZZR OTA market so I can’t confirm if that’s what they actually showed, but that’s what the guide is saying.)
Also curious, which Feud episode ran on the stream at 7:30 this morning?
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I’m guessing either that, or Dawson Feud, which seems to be their go-to streaming filler as of late.
You called it; Dawson Feud is on the stream right now.
Episode is Gilich/Morris, #80-152, for those who keep track of that.
And at 12:30, we got Morris/Picciano, #80-153.
I’m wondering if they’re also using the TNG/FF time slot to experiment a bit with the order of episodes shown. The Plex guide, which shows episode numbers, is still saying TNG (presumably they will fix that eventually if TNG isn’t going to stream anytime soon), but it’s showing a different episode in each time slot. For the 11AM slot, it said TNG was already up to S2-Ep 6. (I’m not in a BUZZR OTA market so I can’t confirm if that’s what they actually showed, but that’s what the guide is saying.)
Also curious, which Feud episode ran on the stream at 7:30 this morning?
7:30 was 80-152 once again.
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Just curious, How does Buzzr have the Newlywed Game episode #'s labeled on their schedule on what was the one aired on 11/15? For example, episodes of Dawson's Feud are labeled as 81-033, 81-034, and so forth.
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Just curious, How does Buzzr have the Newlywed Game episode #'s labeled on their schedule on what was the one aired on 11/15? For example, episodes of Dawson's Feud are labeled as 81-033, 81-034, and so forth.
The 11/15 one was "The Newlywed Game 2_2021," meaning the 21st episode of season 2. Season 1 was the one with Gary Kroeger.
The primetime run started with 2_2021 while the morning run started with 2_2001, the first episode produced for the season.
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Whether it’s an error or not, I don’t know, but currently TNG is on the streaming BUZZR.
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Whether it’s an error or not, I don’t know, but currently TNG is on the streaming BUZZR.
Must have been an error, we're back to Feud today.
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Newlywed Game running on Pluto Buzzr again right now. Wasn't paying attention and realized it was actually on there.
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Newlywed Game running on Pluto Buzzr again right now. Wasn't paying attention and realized it was actually on there.
It’s also playing on the repeat.
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Chalk it up to another accidental airing. Back to the Feud tonight on Pluto feed.
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Buzzr must have worked something out with Sony. According to the description on this YouTube video they posted, starting today, Newlywed Game will be on streaming too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dhGfvfG06Y
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Can verify it's on the streaming feed as of right now.
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I thought at least one of the TNG promos I saw today did not have the "over the air & cable only" disclaimer anymore.
That and the morning episode ran on Pluto TV.
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I wondered if there might be some kind of delay in the deal where they couldn’t stream it right away but would be able to do so in the new year. Not sure why they would structure this particular deal that way, but sometimes streaming is delayed in broadcast contracts.
Anyway, I’m not a huge fan of TNG myself, but am pleased that BUZZR has scaled yet another wall that was once thought unconquerable. Now, hoping to see Wheel and J! not too far behind.
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Now, hoping to see Wheel and J! not too far behind.
Not to be a negative Nellie, but I'll be absolutely shocked if either of those show up while they're still in first-run.
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Now, hoping to see Wheel and J! not too far behind.
Not to be a negative Nellie, but I'll be absolutely shocked if either of those show up while they're still in first-run.
Agreed, I'd go so far as to say it's more likely that we'll see a dedicated Pluto channel for them than to see them on Buzzr.
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Now, hoping to see Wheel and J! not too far behind.
Not to be a negative Nellie, but I'll be absolutely shocked if either of those show up while they're still in first-run.
Agreed, I'd go so far as to say it's more likely that we'll see a dedicated Pluto channel for them than to see them on Buzzr.
You may both be right. But then again, BUZZR has pulled off some tricks that had previously been thought next to impossible. Personally, I think it’s best to take a “never say never” approach when it comes to BUZZR.
As for a dedicated Sony classics channel—Sure, it could happen. But I tend to think that if they had much of an appetite to do that, they’d have done it already instead of putting resources into Game Show Central or Escape Perfecto. They may feel there’s more money in leasing to a willing partner at this point. Of course, I’ll grant you that they could make an announcement for a Sony Classic Games channel tomorrow.
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I hate to be a complainer (but it's not going to stop me from doing so right now) but I was kind of enjoying Dawson's Feud on the streaming platforms when TNG was airing OTA. I can't get into TNG and it just seems odd to me that Buzzr has no Feud during any daylight hours.