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Title: Newlywed Game coming to Buzzr?
Post by: bwood on October 13, 2021, 03:24:16 PM
Just got an email from Buzzr with a graphic that a "Big Announcement" is coming soon. The background was light blue with white lattice. Only thing that comes to mind is the Newlywed Game but being a Sony property you would have to wonder. I don't know what else it could be though? I have no clue how to post a snapshot of it on here though.

Title: Re: Newlywed Game coming to Buzzr?
Post by: Ryanmo97 on October 13, 2021, 03:27:00 PM
LOL! I was trying to figure out how to do the same thing! I don't know what else it could be. This could be a big get for Buzzr.
Title: Re: Newlywed Game coming to Buzzr?
Post by: Blanquepage on October 13, 2021, 03:30:25 PM
Yep, right there with you on that bet. Another series from the old survey! Also betting that's why Bob's Card Sharks got another slot in the morning so NG can slide into the evening airing. Just a guess. If this pans out, how exciting that we'd have the first Sony library product!
https://imgur.com/a/KxvOPQg
Title: Re: Newlywed Game coming to Buzzr?
Post by: joshg on October 13, 2021, 03:51:04 PM
No "Celebrity Sweepstakes" then I guess? :)
Title: Re: Newlywed Game coming to Buzzr?
Post by: Blanquepage on October 13, 2021, 03:59:56 PM
No "Celebrity Sweepstakes" then I guess? :)
Oh crap...you're right! It could also be, that was behind the contestants.
Title: Re: Newlywed Game coming to Buzzr?
Post by: tvmitch on October 13, 2021, 04:31:04 PM
If anyone has this email, I'd be interested in seeing a screenshot. I am late to the Buzzr emails party. Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Newlywed Game coming to Buzzr?
Post by: weaklink75 on October 13, 2021, 04:45:44 PM
I actually wouldn’t be surprised if it is Newlywed Game- Sony may not consider Buzzr direct competition, and it benefits both parties (Sony gets some use out of their library that they may not be using, and Buzzr gets more programming)
Title: Re: Newlywed Game coming to Buzzr?
Post by: tpirfan28 on October 13, 2021, 04:56:13 PM
There is a link with Burt Sugarman between Celebrity Sweepstakes and Whew…
Title: Re: Newlywed Game coming to Buzzr?
Post by: snowpeck on October 13, 2021, 05:00:13 PM
There is a link with Burt Sugarman between Celebrity Sweepstakes and Whew…
The biggest link, though, is that Wink Martindale/Winc. has been trying to sell both shows.
Title: Re: Newlywed Game coming to Buzzr?
Post by: bwood on October 13, 2021, 05:16:07 PM
I wish I could post it on here. It screams Newlywed Game. The color is absolutely identical and the way it looks is exactly like the area behind Bob.

It doesn't say Celebrity Sweepstakes to me but I could be wrong. If they were doing that show you think they would go a different route for a hint.
Also, I thought it was greenish behind the lattice on that show?
Title: Re: Newlywed Game coming to Buzzr?
Post by: Blanquepage on October 13, 2021, 05:25:52 PM
I wish I could post it on here. It screams Newlywed Game. The color is absolutely identical and the way it looks is exactly like the area behind Bob.

I thought it was greenish behind the lattice on that show?
The greenish stuff was added later in the run, but the wall behind the lattice itself appears to have been the same blue color.
And I also agree with you that's it's more likely Newlywed Game, but I guess we'll just have to wait and see...
Title: Re: Newlywed Game coming to Buzzr?
Post by: knagl on October 13, 2021, 06:13:59 PM
Here's the image that Blanquepage linked to:

(https://i.postimg.cc/nLwrMN3x/fh-Kyv7-S-d.webp)
Title: Re: Newlywed Game coming to Buzzr?
Post by: snowpeck on October 13, 2021, 06:15:29 PM
I just can't see Newlywed Game being the first Sony show Buzzr would go after. Given that both Whew and Celebrity Sweepstakes are being represented by Winc. now, my money is on that.
Title: Re: Newlywed Game coming to Buzzr?
Post by: BillCullen1 on October 13, 2021, 06:16:33 PM
So if this is true, we may someday hear "in the butt" on Buzzr :)

If it had to be a Barris show, I personally wish it had been Treasure Hunt. But it does look like the NG set.
Title: Re: Newlywed Game coming to Buzzr?
Post by: bwood on October 13, 2021, 06:27:04 PM
Honestly another reason I'm banking on TNG is the fact that Celebrity Sweepstakes is such a niche show that not many people remember outside of our group of Game Show Fans. I know the same argument goes for Whew! but I feel they added that to satisfy our core group of hard-core fans and was looking for their next acquisition to have a more broad appeal. TNG would be a huge acquisition. I'm not a huge fan of it but I understand the recognition it gets as a classic that most average people remember. However, I understand there is also promotional power with Celebrity Sweepstakes the same way with Whew! as it has not been seen in years. Something just tells me they are looking for the next show they get outside of their core library to be a big one and TNG would be big.
I'm just happy we have this channel and the lengths they are going to appeal to us and the general public. They truly seem like a class act operation.
Title: Re: Newlywed Game coming to Buzzr?
Post by: Blanquepage on October 13, 2021, 07:35:55 PM
I just can't see Newlywed Game being the first Sony show Buzzr would go after. Given that both Whew and Celebrity Sweepstakes are being represented by Winc. now, my money is on that.
Ok Greg, I'm going to be in Atlanta next week from the 19th-24th for a family gathering. If the announcement breaks between now and then that it's CS, which I've posted numerous times I'm hoping for, then drinks are on me all night for both you and Nick. Just one night, mind you :P
That lattice is more identifiable with Newlywed Game, IMHO. Also, there were Sony properties on that survey we took, including WOF, J!, and The Dating Game. Of four, this one seems to be the least tied up airing somewhere else...
Title: Re: Newlywed Game coming to Buzzr?
Post by: TimK2003 on October 13, 2021, 08:34:00 PM
In the months prior to the announcement that Whew was unearthed and headed to Buzzr, Winc.'s YouTube page posted a couple of new-to-us Whew episodes.   Haven't seen any new-to-us episodes of Celebrity Sweepstakes...yet.  But then again, if some CS episodes pop up, then most of us could guess that they're coming to Buzzr, as now they have tapped Burt Sugarman's shows.

OTOH, GSN still airs Match Game 7x and all the Harvey Feud you can stomach (both Fremantle properties).

Since Sony is sitting on (and not airing) the original Barris NG episodes, perhaps this is a "trade" (Letting Buzzr air Eubanks NG episodes + who knows what else, and Fremantle will continue to let you air old MG & Harvey Feud). 

If it is Newlywed Game, I hope they air the 60s-70's eps and not the 80's-90's incarnations -- mostly to mesh better with the majority of their programs that are 40+ years old.

Here is an early 2022 prediction:  Buzzr gets the rights from Sony to air Martindale-hosted Tic Tac Dough episodes via trade.or lease (to commence with the NBC airing of Bergeron's TTD reboot).

We'll see...




Title: Re: Newlywed Game coming to Buzzr?
Post by: tvwxman on October 13, 2021, 08:54:10 PM
So, what's left for holy grail collections for Buzzr to air : Heatter Quigley shows? Gambit? High Rollers? Battlestars?
Title: Re: Newlywed Game coming to Buzzr?
Post by: Bryce L. on October 13, 2021, 09:00:46 PM
So, what's left for holy grail collections for Buzzr to air : Heatter Quigley shows? Gambit? High Rollers? Battlestars?
"One of these stars is sitting in the secret square..."
Title: Re: Newlywed Game coming to Buzzr?
Post by: Blanquepage on October 13, 2021, 09:11:54 PM
So, what's left for holy grail collections for Buzzr to air : Heatter Quigley shows? Gambit? High Rollers? Battlestars?
High Rollers exists in full. Signs point to Gambit being gone, as all Winc had posted are rather shoddy personal recordings. There's a vacuum-sealed Baffle ep 12 with slate, which makes me wonder why that one would have been saved if it were wiped. After having screened it and witnessing Dick's initial clumsiness, I doubt it was to shop the series around. I'd wonder why they HQ would let Battlestars get erased...especially since they had enough faith in it to bring it back. Were there any syndication efforts? I'd like to think by that time, companies would intervene to prevent the wiping of their network product given how B&E shopped CBS reruns of TJW to get popularity enough for a revival.
Title: Re: Newlywed Game coming to Buzzr?
Post by: gamed121683 on October 13, 2021, 09:13:44 PM
Whether it's The Newlywed Game or Celebrity Sweepstakes (my mind will be blown either way), can we give a shout out to whomever has been in charge of acquisitions over at Buzzr the past 3 years? Ever since they got the rights to Classic Concentration back in '18, they have been en fuego with shows most of us thought we'd never see again due to them being lost or just a bunch of red tape. I'd like to thank them for their hard work and dedication.

I don't know who these red tape breakers are, but I want to buy whoever this person (people) is (are) a drink.
Title: Re: Newlywed Game coming to Buzzr?
Post by: BillCullen1 on October 13, 2021, 09:16:00 PM
So, what's left for holy grail collections for Buzzr to air : Heatter Quigley shows? Gambit? High Rollers? Battlestars?
"One of these stars is sitting in the secret square..."

Since Buzzr currently airs the MGHS Hour, Marshall's HS would be the H-Q show for them to acquire. In my opinion, the celebs on HS were more famous than the ones on Match Game. Paul Lynde, Rose Marie and Vincent Price vs. Brett Somers, Bill Daily and Joyce Bulifant.
Title: Re: Newlywed Game coming to Buzzr?
Post by: gamed121683 on October 13, 2021, 09:19:13 PM
In terms of holy grail collections for Buzzr to air: Does Winc. have access to the rest of the Jay Wolpert Productions library or just Whew!?
Title: Re: Newlywed Game coming to Buzzr?
Post by: snowpeck on October 13, 2021, 09:30:18 PM
In terms of holy grail collections for Buzzr to air: Does Winc. have access to the rest of the Jay Wolpert Productions library or just Whew!?
I'd assume just Whew! since it's owned by Burt Sugarman and not Wolpert.
Title: Re: Newlywed Game coming to Buzzr?
Post by: mmb5 on October 13, 2021, 09:43:50 PM
Were there any syndication efforts? I'd like to think by that time, companies would intervene to prevent the wiping of their network product given how B&E shopped CBS reruns of TJW to get popularity enough for a revival.
Yet Password 70s was still erased, even after a successful syndication of Password 60s.
Title: Re: Newlywed Game coming to Buzzr?
Post by: WhammyPower on October 13, 2021, 09:51:07 PM
I'm going to predict its Buzzr timeslot right now: A replacement for the 8PM Classic Concentration (since the new eps. have always been put in at 1PM)

EDIT: I just realized they could do something more... They can move Card Sharks to before Sweep to give is "Love Is in the Cards with Bob Eubanks."
Title: Re: Newlywed Game coming to Buzzr?
Post by: Chief-O on October 13, 2021, 09:59:45 PM
So, what's left for holy grail collections for Buzzr to air : Heatter Quigley shows? Gambit? High Rollers? Battlestars?
High Rollers exists in full.

.........stupid question, but is this the Trebek run (rather, *runs*)?

/if so, then I was today years old when I found out
Title: Re: Newlywed Game coming to Buzzr?
Post by: Blanquepage on October 13, 2021, 10:07:07 PM
Were there any syndication efforts? I'd like to think by that time, companies would intervene to prevent the wiping of their network product given how B&E shopped CBS reruns of TJW to get popularity enough for a revival.
Yet Password 70s was still erased, even after a successful syndication of Password 60s.
Given how established Password was by then, from a business standpoint, did G-T really need to preserve those tapes to sell future iterations? In fact, neither ABC Password nor Password Plus had a pilot, right? Not exactly apples to apples, in background context. My thought is behind those series that weren't decades-long successes that had hopes for being shopped around. The fact that Winc has been trying to sell Celebrity Sweepstakes clearly confirms there exists product to sell. NBC High Rollers exists, and it was ultimately syndicated for a bit. We really need to reevaluate our past acceptances of why certain series are gone, and what may still remain unbeknownst to us, the  not-in-the-biz audience.
Title: Re: Newlywed Game coming to Buzzr?
Post by: Bryce L. on October 13, 2021, 10:13:44 PM
So, what's left for holy grail collections for Buzzr to air : Heatter Quigley shows? Gambit? High Rollers? Battlestars?
High Rollers exists in full.

.........stupid question, but is this the Trebek run (rather, *runs*)?

/if so, then I was today years old when I found out
At least the 1974-1976 run is intact, no idea about 1978-1980.
Title: Re: Newlywed Game coming to Buzzr?
Post by: Bryce L. on October 14, 2021, 04:41:10 AM
I'm going to predict its Buzzr timeslot right now: A replacement for the 8PM Classic Concentration (since the new eps. have always been put in at 1PM)

EDIT: I just realized they could do something more... They can move Card Sharks to before Sweep to give is "Love Is in the Cards with Bob Eubanks."
So, are you envisioning something like this, maybe?

8:00pm: Newlywed Game 77
8:30pm: Card Sharks 86
9:00pm: Supermarket Sweep 5
9:30pm: Super Password 85
Title: Re: Newlywed Game coming to Buzzr?
Post by: chrisholland03 on October 14, 2021, 07:33:46 AM

High Rollers exists in full. Signs point to Gambit being gone, as all Winc had posted are rather shoddy personal recordings.

And were it not for those "shoddy personal recordings" we would have a grand total of one shoddy episode.  As someone who does a good job unearthing rare episodes, I'm kinda surprised by the less-than-diplomatic wording.
Title: Re: Newlywed Game coming to Buzzr?
Post by: Blanquepage on October 14, 2021, 08:44:08 AM

High Rollers exists in full. Signs point to Gambit being gone, as all Winc had posted are rather shoddy personal recordings.

And were it not for those "shoddy personal recordings" we would have a grand total of one shoddy episode.  As someone who does a good job unearthing rare episodes, I'm kinda surprised by the less-than-diplomatic wording.
You're right, poor self-editing. Less than broadcast quality recordings. The point I was going for was that if Gambit existed, I'd think by now we'd have seen uploads in the same quality of the High Rollers pilot or the '79 Gambit pilot. I guess we could just ask...
Title: Re: Newlywed Game coming to Buzzr?
Post by: Dbacksfan12 on October 14, 2021, 01:18:19 PM
Wasn't Gambit on in reruns somewhere a good while after its original run concluded?  I'd be surprised if they saw value then, only to subsequently destroy the tapes.
Title: Re: Newlywed Game coming to Buzzr?
Post by: Jimmy Owen on October 14, 2021, 01:51:09 PM
Wasn't Gambit on in reruns somewhere a good while after its original run concluded?  I'd be surprised if they saw value then, only to subsequently destroy the tapes.
Yes. Jack Rhodes had it on KHJ for a while.  I want to say 1977..  Filmways owned Rhodes and was swallowed by Orion in the early 80s and merged into MGM eventually.  They may not know they have it.
Title: Re: Newlywed Game coming to Buzzr?
Post by: Blanquepage on October 14, 2021, 03:00:37 PM
Wasn't Gambit on in reruns somewhere a good while after its original run concluded?  I'd be surprised if they saw value then, only to subsequently destroy the tapes.
Yes. Jack Rhodes had it on KHJ for a while.  I want to say 1977..  Filmways owned Rhodes and was swallowed by Orion in the early 80s and merged into MGM eventually.  They may not know they have it.
Wow, news to me. Well that's at least a glimmer of hope!
Title: Re: Newlywed Game coming to Buzzr?
Post by: WhammyPower on October 14, 2021, 04:30:41 PM
I'm going to predict its Buzzr timeslot right now: A replacement for the 8PM Classic Concentration (since the new eps. have always been put in at 1PM)

EDIT: I just realized they could do something more... They can move Card Sharks to before Sweep to give is "Love Is in the Cards with Bob Eubanks."
So, are you envisioning something like this, maybe?

8:00pm: Newlywed Game 77
8:30pm: Card Sharks 86
9:00pm: Supermarket Sweep 5
9:30pm: Super Password 85

Exactly that, yes.
Title: Re: Newlywed Game coming to Buzzr?
Post by: Bob Zager on October 16, 2021, 03:20:55 PM
There is a link with Burt Sugarman between Celebrity Sweepstakes and Whew…

I seem to recall, in 1987, Chuck Barris no longer was directly involved in the production of The New Newlywed Game, nor the All-New Dating Game, and some then unfamiliar names showed up in the credits (including Scott Sternberg, for example).  On one of the daytime talk shows, IIRC, Bob Eubanks had mentioned he was working for Burt Sugarman, so I don't know if Sugarman's company was in charge of production of those shows or not. 

There were all kinds of production changes starting in early 1988 (about the midpoint of the '87/'88 season).  Some cosmetic changes to TNNG, as well as Eubanks' relocation to between couples #2 and #3.  Then in fall '88, first the game used a money scoring system; and by December, new host Paul Rodriguez.  Whether or not Sugarman was involved with the show's transitioning at that time or not, I'm not sure; but I also wondered if Eubanks was not pleased with the changes, and if it influenced his departure, especially since it happened at around the mid-season point.
Title: Re: Newlywed Game coming to Buzzr?
Post by: splinkynip on October 16, 2021, 04:20:24 PM
My understanding was that Bob was going to leave anyway if the show got renewed for the 1989-1990 season, as he was trying to sell All-Star Secrets for fall of 1989. I think, though, it was pretty much assumed the show was going to be cancelled so he left in December of 1988.
Title: Re: Newlywed Game coming to Buzzr?
Post by: chargeradiocom on October 16, 2021, 05:59:09 PM
My mom is probably the definition of a casual game show fan. She will sometimes watch current Wheel/J!/Feud if it’s on, though nowhere near every day. She occasionally watches BUZZR or GSN, but doesn’t necessarily go out of her way to do so. She has a fondness for the older shows, though, and while she’s not nearly as hardcore of a fan as most of us here, she knows a little something about the classics. I showed her the teaser graphic, without mentioning any specific shows. She paused for about three seconds, then said, “Um, is it the Newlywed Game?”

So yeah, either BUZZR is bringing TNG on board, or this is the biggest game show-related bait-&-switch of the last decade.

As for TNG seeming like an odd choice for BUZZR’s first Sony show… I get that. But I could see TNG being something of a “trial balloon.” TNG is probably the most recognizable “1A tier” Sony show to mainstream viewers. And if they’re working on a deal for classic Wheel/J! but one side or the other is hesitant on the terms or asking price, they may have agreed to run TNG, and if it hits the targets both sides want, they’ll be more comfortable signing a bigger deal for the top tier shows. They might even have a deal already in place to run Wheel/J!/possibly Pyramid, contingent on TNG hitting its targets. And this is purely conjecture, but I have my doubts that BUZZR would pursue Sony’s 1A-&-lower tier shows very hard unless they thought they had a good chance at getting the two big guns as well.

Also, if BUZZR is just dying to have a relationship game show, TNG would probably be more palatable to their core audience than Bzzz! was. (I’m not sure why they’d be dying to have one, but I’m also not sure why they singled out that particular genre on that one survey. Maybe there’s a key sponsor that really wants it.)
Title: Re: Newlywed Game coming to Buzzr?
Post by: Bryce L. on October 16, 2021, 06:29:25 PM
Also, if BUZZR is just dying to have a relationship game show, TNG would probably be more palatable to their core audience than Bzzz! was. (I’m not sure why they’d be dying to have one, but I’m also not sure why they singled out that particular genre on that one survey. Maybe there’s a key sponsor that really wants it.)
Don't they already have that genre, if you count Tattletales? (Which, by the way, starts fresh episodes on Monday November 1, episode 0354.)
Title: Re: Newlywed Game coming to Buzzr?
Post by: chargeradiocom on October 16, 2021, 06:50:49 PM
Also, if BUZZR is just dying to have a relationship game show, TNG would probably be more palatable to their core audience than Bzzz! was. (I’m not sure why they’d be dying to have one, but I’m also not sure why they singled out that particular genre on that one survey. Maybe there’s a key sponsor that really wants it.)
Don't they already have that genre, if you count Tattletales? (Which, by the way, starts fresh episodes on Monday November 1, episode 0354.)
You could certainly argue that point. In that survey, though, I recall the question specifically being asked if respondents would be interested in seeing dating and relationship shows on BUZZR, as if they didn’t have one already. (I do wish we had a transcript or screencaps from that survey.)  I don’t know, maybe they count Tattletales as more of a celebrity show, whereas civilian relationship shows would be a different category. Just guessing as to what their thinking might have been.
Title: Re: Newlywed Game coming to Buzzr?
Post by: Jimmy Owen on October 16, 2021, 08:33:43 PM
If they sent out a tease with an asterisk background, would you guess TPIR or Dating Game?
Title: Re: Newlywed Game coming to Buzzr?
Post by: parliboy on October 16, 2021, 11:16:39 PM
If they sent out a tease with an asterisk background, would you guess TPIR or Dating Game?

Well, the Goodson-Todman asterisk is six-sided, and The Dating Game's asterisk is five-sided.  So I'm not sure that's a good question.
Title: Re: Newlywed Game coming to Buzzr?
Post by: Jimmy Owen on October 17, 2021, 02:26:09 AM
If they sent out a tease with an asterisk background, would you guess TPIR or Dating Game?

Well, the Goodson-Todman asterisk is six-sided, and The Dating Game's asterisk is five-sided.  So I'm not sure that's a good question.
.  Did not realize that.  What about The Mike Douglas Show's Game Show Host week?
Title: Re: Newlywed Game coming to Buzzr?
Post by: Blanquepage on October 18, 2021, 07:23:23 PM
I'm going to predict its Buzzr timeslot right now: A replacement for the 8PM Classic Concentration (since the new eps. have always been put in at 1PM)

EDIT: I just realized they could do something more... They can move Card Sharks to before Sweep to give is "Love Is in the Cards with Bob Eubanks."
So, are you envisioning something like this, maybe?

8:00pm: Newlywed Game 77
8:30pm: Card Sharks 86
9:00pm: Supermarket Sweep 5
9:30pm: Super Password 85

Exactly that, yes.
Apologies, but there's just no way BUZZR is going to remove Alex from primetime. Maybe Match Game PM's slot, or some other slot non-primetime to test the waters.