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Title: Buzzr Lost and Found 2021
Post by: WhammyPower on September 01, 2021, 12:17:38 PM
https://twitter.com/BUZZRtv/status/1433097423761641472?s=20

The hashtags provide much more information than the video.
Title: Re: Buzzr Lost and Found 2021
Post by: Blanquepage on September 01, 2021, 12:57:37 PM
Showoffs and Mindreaders, huh? Would be pleasantly surprised if Showoffs was from the series and not the pilot.
As for Mindreaders...well that's....certainly something  ;D
Title: Re: Buzzr Lost and Found 2021
Post by: calliaume on September 01, 2021, 01:16:53 PM
I had to look up Take Your Choice; it looks to be a 1954 G-T pilot starring Fred Allen, with his wife Portland Hoffa and Tex Antoine(!) announcing. Looks somewhat similar to You Bet Your Life. Might be worth watching just to see Allen sulking through having to host a game show.

As Blanquepage noted, it would be nice to see something different for either Showoffs or Mindreaders other than the episodes currently in circulation.
Title: Re: Buzzr Lost and Found 2021
Post by: Ian Wallis on September 01, 2021, 02:23:55 PM
Great stuff!

If Showoffs and Mindreaders are going into the Lost and Found block, I think it likely confirms what we've thought all along, that not much from either show exists.  Odd that GSN never showed either - considering all the rare shows from the Goodson-Todman library that they did show.
Title: Re: Buzzr Lost and Found 2021
Post by: Chief-O on September 01, 2021, 03:09:35 PM
Also amped for "Showoffs" and "Mindreaders". "Make the Connection" should be fun too; I do recall enjoying the couple of eps. GSN ran long ago (as similar to its fellow G-T panel shows as it may be).

Kind of wondering why they have #Whew! in there, given that it'll be going full time in just under a week.
Title: Re: Buzzr Lost and Found 2021
Post by: snowpeck on September 01, 2021, 03:11:38 PM
Kind of wondering why they have #Whew! in there, given that it'll be going full time in just under a week.
My guess is they're going to air one of the pilots.
Title: Re: Buzzr Lost and Found 2021
Post by: Bryce L. on September 01, 2021, 03:21:38 PM
Kind of wondering why they have #Whew! in there, given that it'll be going full time in just under a week.
My guess is they're going to air one of the pilots.
Well if we see on the schedule "Whew! 78_PLT3"...

And in regards to Mindreaders and Showoffs... if they could dig up a previously-unknown episode of The Better Sex, not sure why they couldn't surprise us again with these two.
Title: Re: Buzzr Lost and Found 2021
Post by: MikeK on September 01, 2021, 05:07:49 PM
Idle speculation on Whew!:  Episode 3 is being skipped in the preview this Sunday.  Maybe it's being saved for Lost and Found for some reason like the first Gauntlet victory?
Title: Re: Buzzr Lost and Found 2021
Post by: JMFabiano on September 01, 2021, 05:42:02 PM
Idle speculation on Whew!:  Episode 3 is being skipped in the preview this Sunday.  Maybe it's being saved for Lost and Found for some reason like the first Gauntlet victory?

That or one of the bloopers mentions midgets. 
Title: Re: Buzzr Lost and Found 2021
Post by: Allstar87 on September 01, 2021, 07:22:23 PM
I'm leaning toward either tape damage or the midgets, one of the two.

Idle speculation on Whew!:  Episode 3 is being skipped in the preview this Sunday.  Maybe it's being saved for Lost and Found for some reason like the first Gauntlet victory?

One of Buzzr's other clips shows that episode 2 had the first Gauntlet win. However, they HAVE withheld other big win episodes for use in marathons, so it might still be because it had a particularly exciting Gauntlet. Guess we'll find out soon!
Title: Re: Buzzr Lost and Found 2021
Post by: Dan88 on September 01, 2021, 11:42:04 PM
Pretty sure the lineup is one episode apiece, with the first three listed in the hashtags getting 40-minute slots.

Buzzr included a brief clip of Take Your Choice in promos for the very first Lost and Found (screengrab here (https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/gameshows/images/b/be/TakeYourChoice.png)).

As for Mindreaders and Showoffs, UCLA has Pilot #3 of the former and the 12/25/75 episode of the latter (its listing suggests it's a master copy), so those could be in contention.
Title: Re: Buzzr Lost and Found 2021
Post by: That Don Guy on September 06, 2021, 03:48:10 PM
Idle speculation on Whew!:  Episode 3 is being skipped in the preview this Sunday.  Maybe it's being saved for Lost and Found for some reason like the first Gauntlet victory?

Based on what happened in episodes 2 and 4, there were two Gauntlets run in episode 3, neither of which was won.

Is it possible that Episode 3 just doesn't exist, or if it does, the tape is not entirely playable?
Title: Re: Buzzr Lost and Found 2021
Post by: Robair on September 10, 2021, 02:47:48 PM
Some clues from a promo:
"Make the Connection" is the 9/1/1955 edition with J. Fred Muggs
"Mindreaders" has Sarah Purcell as a guest, this is likely the pilot with Charles Nelson Reilly
"It Had To Be You" is a different pilot than was exhibited on the W/O/C website earlier this year

EDIT: Another promo had a snippet of Chuck from "Mindreaders". Pilot ahoy.
Title: Re: Buzzr Lost and Found 2021
Post by: Robair on September 10, 2021, 02:56:12 PM
And one more thing...the spot ends with a shot of Bert Lahr from a Lays Potato Chip commercial, possibly part of "It Had To Be You".
Title: Re: Buzzr Lost and Found 2021
Post by: snowpeck on September 10, 2021, 03:27:24 PM
And one more thing...the spot ends with a shot of Bert Lahr from a Lays Potato Chip commercial, possibly part of "It Had To Be You".
They've already posted a couple of clips, one from "It Had to Be You" and one from "Take Your Choice."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eoVoaXW8D4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1hUatZBijc
Title: Re: Buzzr Lost and Found 2021
Post by: Bryce L. on September 11, 2021, 12:32:26 PM
Kind of wondering why they have #Whew! in there, given that it'll be going full time in just under a week.
My guess is they're going to air one of the pilots.
Well if we see on the schedule "Whew! 78_PLT3"...
And, promo I just saw during Cullen TPIR confirms we're getting Pilot #3 (unless Maggie Brown was on one of the other pilots as well)
Title: Re: Buzzr Lost and Found 2021
Post by: snowpeck on September 11, 2021, 02:44:11 PM
Kind of wondering why they have #Whew! in there, given that it'll be going full time in just under a week.
My guess is they're going to air one of the pilots.
Well if we see on the schedule "Whew! 78_PLT3"...
And, promo I just saw during Cullen TPIR confirms we're getting Pilot #3 (unless Maggie Brown was on one of the other pilots as well)
The same promo had a clip from Showoffs, which appears to be from the final week of the series with celebs Greg Morris, Robert Urich, Tina Cole, and Vicki Lawrence.
Title: Re: Buzzr Lost and Found 2021
Post by: Bryce L. on September 11, 2021, 06:31:44 PM
Kind of wondering why they have #Whew! in there, given that it'll be going full time in just under a week.
My guess is they're going to air one of the pilots.
Well if we see on the schedule "Whew! 78_PLT3"...
And, promo I just saw during Cullen TPIR confirms we're getting Pilot #3 (unless Maggie Brown was on one of the other pilots as well)
The same promo had a clip from Showoffs, which appears to be from the final week of the series with celebs Greg Morris, Robert Urich, Tina Cole, and Vicki Lawrence.
And the plot thickens... TV Passport confirms we're getting two episodes of Whew! (6 to 7 pm), and we know one is Pilot #3, so I'd guess, maybe, the other is A-3D?
Title: Re: Buzzr Lost and Found 2021
Post by: Bryce L. on September 11, 2021, 07:06:19 PM
And per TV Passport, here's the full lineup...

4:00pm - It Had To Be You
4:40pm - Take Your Choice
5:20pm - Make the Connection
6:00pm - Whew!
6:30pm - Whew!
7:00pm - Mindreaders
7:30pm - Showoffs
Title: Re: Buzzr Lost and Found 2021
Post by: MikeK on September 15, 2021, 07:59:49 PM
We have episode numbers for some of the shows airing this year.

Whew! appears to be a pilot (listed as PLTX) and episode 127, a week and a half before it became celebrity-laden.

Mindreaders appears to be pilot #3.

Showoffs is episode 128, one of the last episodes since it ran 26 weeks.
Title: Re: Buzzr Lost and Found 2021
Post by: snowpeck on September 15, 2021, 08:05:25 PM
We have episode numbers for some of the shows airing this year.

Whew! appears to be a pilot (listed as PLTX) and episode 127, a week and a half before it became celebrity-laden.

Mindreaders appears to be pilot #3.

Showoffs is episode 128, one of the last episodes since it ran 26 weeks.
Showoffs should be the next-to-last episode from Christmas Day 1975.
Title: Re: Buzzr Lost and Found 2021
Post by: Blanquepage on September 15, 2021, 10:08:07 PM
...Take Your Choice '46? Ain't know way that year's right...right?
Title: Re: Buzzr Lost and Found 2021
Post by: Allstar87 on September 15, 2021, 11:47:39 PM
...Take Your Choice '46? Ain't know way that year's right...right?

It ain't. It's from 1954.
Title: Re: Buzzr Lost and Found 2021
Post by: Blanquepage on September 16, 2021, 12:01:44 AM
...Take Your Choice '46? Ain't know way that year's right...right?

It ain't. It's from 1954.
Thanks! And for the record to the Grammar Police, "ain't know" is a reference to a Lil' Wayne song I coincidentally heard an hour ago. Carry on.
Title: Re: Buzzr Lost and Found 2021
Post by: SwohS Emag on September 16, 2021, 09:27:42 AM
Which of these are "new to the public" in the sense that they haven't made their way online for viewing yet (Winc, youtube, etc.) or previous TV airing (GSN, etc.)?

Title: Re: Buzzr Lost and Found 2021
Post by: Blanquepage on September 16, 2021, 09:32:27 AM
Which of these are "new to the public" in the sense that they haven't made their way online for viewing yet (Winc, youtube, etc.) or previous TV airing (GSN, etc.)?
I believe all except Make the Connection and the Whew! pilot. Mindreaders pilot has been in a few private collections over the years, but I haven't seen much fan appetite for a Youtube presence.
Title: Re: Buzzr Lost and Found 2021
Post by: calliaume on September 24, 2021, 04:01:49 PM
The December 25, 1975 episode of Showoffs is confirmed. Buzzr has posted a clip:

https://youtu.be/6WhTzctJFfY (https://youtu.be/6WhTzctJFfY)

I really like the music package for this show; it's a shame it wasn't recycled elsewhere.
Title: Re: Buzzr Lost and Found 2021
Post by: calliaume on September 24, 2021, 08:02:42 PM
And Mindreaders is also up.

 https://youtu.be/TLFLLCoSwbc (https://youtu.be/TLFLLCoSwbc)
Title: Re: Buzzr Lost and Found 2021
Post by: Ian Wallis on September 24, 2021, 08:35:27 PM
The December 25, 1975 episode of Showoffs is confirmed. Buzzr has posted a clip:

I really like the music package for this show; it's a shame it wasn't recycled elsewhere.

IIRC, wasn't there a rumour at one point that Showoffs changed their theme song the last three weeks or so to that of the first Dream House theme?  I always thought that was false.  I guess this clip proves it.

For those of us who are BUZZR-less, I hope somebody's recording these :)
Title: Re: Buzzr Lost and Found 2021
Post by: Bryce L. on September 24, 2021, 09:04:00 PM
For those of us who are BUZZR-less, I hope somebody's recording these :)
As long as my internet holds out... :)
Title: Re: Buzzr Lost and Found 2021
Post by: Clay Zambo on September 24, 2021, 11:05:51 PM
For those of us who are BUZZR-less, I hope somebody's recording these :)
As long as my internet holds out... :)

Thank you! *crosses fingers for your internet*
Title: Re: Buzzr Lost and Found 2021
Post by: calliaume on September 25, 2021, 08:17:00 AM
On another note, it looks like Showoffs had switched the main game back to the best-two-out-of-three format, which is how it started.

I understand the logic--the first-to-seven format (e.g. the second one) probably generated a lot of ties and might have played with the budget a bit (since it usually only took two rounds to get to seven words, meaning more end game plays per week). It also didn't solve the biggest issue of the main game: watching five or six words acted out, and then watching the other team act out the same five or six words 90 seconds later isn't all that interesting. But for regular viewers, it had to be a little disconcerting.
Title: Re: Buzzr Lost and Found 2021
Post by: Robair on September 25, 2021, 03:28:16 PM
For those of us who are BUZZR-less, I hope somebody's recording these :)
Remember, last year Buzzr posted the full episodes on YouTube for a limited time after they were shown. Dunno if that's the plan this year as well.
Title: Re: Buzzr Lost and Found 2021
Post by: Bryce L. on September 25, 2021, 08:10:30 PM
Got everything recorded, uploading the file to Google Drive now. This might take a while.
Title: Re: Buzzr Lost and Found 2021
Post by: Clay Zambo on September 25, 2021, 09:27:51 PM
Got everything recorded, uploading the file to Google Drive now. This might take a while.

Mwah.
Title: Re: Buzzr Lost and Found 2021
Post by: Bryce L. on September 25, 2021, 09:56:21 PM
Happy early Christmas, guys

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jd3TpUOW557URvPmtZbcFRiIe1Y5LPpK/view?usp=sharing
Title: Re: Buzzr Lost and Found 2021
Post by: Mr. Matté on September 25, 2021, 10:24:13 PM
The "2021 edits" I noticed during Showoffs occurred during the shortened rounds at the end where "Tomahawk" was the word. The first round had an awkward cut to the audience (which was either an original ABC edit or was a more intricate edit by Buzzr) while during the second round, about 3 seconds of play was just dumped out completely.
Title: Re: Buzzr Lost and Found 2021
Post by: Strikerz04 on September 25, 2021, 10:29:16 PM
Happy early Christmas, guys

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jd3TpUOW557URvPmtZbcFRiIe1Y5LPpK/view?usp=sharing (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jd3TpUOW557URvPmtZbcFRiIe1Y5LPpK/view?usp=sharing)


*Chefs kiss*
Title: Re: Buzzr Lost and Found 2021
Post by: Blanquepage on September 26, 2021, 12:48:02 AM
Take Your Choice was rather cute. Not as fun as Two For The Money, but not terrible. And...Dick was clearly not sober during that Mindreaders pilot. Entirely understandable. ;D
Title: Re: Buzzr Lost and Found 2021
Post by: catnap1972 on September 26, 2021, 10:40:43 AM
Was the audience jury setup (Mindreaders) chopped down for the series (vs the run through) or it just the camera angle that makes it look that way?  Also noticed the back wall scoring displays were changed from 5 digits to what looked like 4 digits for the series.
Title: Re: Buzzr Lost and Found 2021
Post by: ChrisLambert! on September 26, 2021, 02:46:55 PM
The Whew! pilot had the neat element of the lightning bolts continuing down to the floor and encircling the players. It’s too bad they abandoned that for the series; I wonder if tech limited them to being able to have those or the lights they added to the podia?
Title: Re: Buzzr Lost and Found 2021
Post by: KWJCDon on September 26, 2021, 04:14:00 PM
Happy early Christmas, guys

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jd3TpUOW557URvPmtZbcFRiIe1Y5LPpK/view?usp=sharing

I forgot to record this so a hundred thank you's for sharing!!
Title: Re: Buzzr Lost and Found 2021
Post by: MSTieScott on September 26, 2021, 07:34:32 PM
The Whew! pilot had the neat element of the lightning bolts continuing down to the floor and encircling the players. It’s too bad they abandoned that for the series; I wonder if tech limited them to being able to have those or the lights they added to the podia?

My guess was that the design was changed because the effect didn't really read when the cameras were at floor level. With the floor lights practically invisible most of the time, the result looked more like there was a random yellow column sticking up in front of each of the charging and blocking stations.
Title: Re: Buzzr Lost and Found 2021
Post by: Mr. Matté on September 26, 2021, 07:59:41 PM
I kinda wished that the block countdown lights would have stayed. In the other episodes I've watched, I was always worried (me worrying about a game show that aired 11 years before I was born...) that Tom's/the audience's 4-3-2-1 shouting would take longer than 5 seconds, but checking the timing using my phone's timer countdown app, starting the 5 second countdown from the sound of the buzzer, it was always pretty close, even in the instances of Tom and the audience being out of sync.

I also checked the second ep's Gauntlet with the reversed call with a 65-second timer. It seems like the on-air clock ticked right away to 64 after the first bell and I had about one second left on my clock when their clock went to 0. I'm assuming that Buzzr doesn't do speed ups during the timed portion of the show.
Title: Re: Buzzr Lost and Found 2021
Post by: Bryce L. on September 26, 2021, 08:04:33 PM
I also checked the second ep's Gauntlet with the reversed call with a 65-second timer. It seems like the on-air clock ticked right away to 64 after the first bell and I had about one second left on my clock when their clock went to 0. I'm assuming that Buzzr doesn't do speed ups during the timed portion of the show.
I've never seen Buzzr speed anything up, to be honest.
Title: Re: Buzzr Lost and Found 2021
Post by: Otm Shank on September 27, 2021, 12:49:53 AM
I kinda wished that the block countdown lights would have stayed. In the other episodes I've watched, I was always worried (me worrying about a game show that aired 11 years before I was born...) that Tom's/the audience's 4-3-2-1 shouting would take longer than 5 seconds, but checking the timing using my phone's timer countdown app, starting the 5 second countdown from the sound of the buzzer, it was always pretty close, even in the instances of Tom and the audience being out of sync.

Any chance that the countdown was recorded? I mean, the studio audience certainly participated, but was there a base countdown that everyone was matching up with? That's the only way I could see that done consistently
Title: Re: Buzzr Lost and Found 2021
Post by: JasonA1 on September 27, 2021, 12:52:50 AM
Any chance that the countdown was recorded? I mean, the studio audience certainly participated, but was there a base countdown that everyone was matching up with? That's the only way I could see that done consistently

On a recent run of Buzzr eps, you can clearly hear somebody starting/leading the countdown, beginning with a "FIVE!!!" while the block horn/buzzer is sounding. Somebody on staff was no doubt helping lead the audience, not unlike an announcer or warm-up person would do for applause.

-Jason
Title: Re: Buzzr Lost and Found 2021
Post by: Kevin Prather on September 27, 2021, 01:27:19 AM
Are we sure there wasn't also a five-second "official" clock offstage that the contestant could see?
Title: Re: Buzzr Lost and Found 2021
Post by: Ian Wallis on September 27, 2021, 01:50:32 AM
Happy early Christmas, guys

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jd3TpUOW557URvPmtZbcFRiIe1Y5LPpK/view?usp=sharing

Thank you Bryce - worked great!

With all the Lost and Found stuff BUZZR's aired over the years, you start to wonder what they could possibly have left for future marathons.  Hopefully there's more goodies to come in the future!
Title: Re: Buzzr Lost and Found 2021
Post by: Bryce L. on September 27, 2021, 01:58:07 AM
With all the Lost and Found stuff BUZZR's aired over the years, you start to wonder what they could possibly have left for future marathons.  Hopefully there's more goodies to come in the future!
Well, there is at least one ABC-era Password in broadcast-worthy condition (the Somers/Klugman one GSN aired), perhaps they could run that (the right way - no credit crunch!). I'm sure there's a number of other things in the UCLA and/or Paley collections that would be worthwhile as well.

And you guys are quite welcome :)
Title: Re: Buzzr Lost and Found 2021
Post by: Kniwt on September 27, 2021, 04:37:15 AM
Back in the good old days when GSN ran unaired pilots, I seem to remember them often running a disclaimer that said something like "this isn't a real show; the prizes might not have really been won." Didn't see this with the pilots here.

If anything, I'd think that since Buzzr has over-the-air affiliates subject to FCC rules, Buzzr would have to be more proactive than GSN about such things. Or has humanity evolved to the point where everyone knows -- or simply doesn't care -- that 60-year-old game show pilots are as fake as Jimmy Carr's hair? :)

Edit: Found one:

(https://i.imgur.com/X8dSGOT.png)
Title: Re: Buzzr Lost and Found 2021
Post by: SuperMatch93 on September 27, 2021, 06:33:55 AM
I'm sure there's a number of other things in the UCLA and/or Paley collections that would be worthwhile as well.

One thing that comes to mind are those recordings of the NBC daytime lineup from 1971 and 73. I know those shows are apparently unplayable on their equipment, but do we know whether that means the tapes are in bad shape, or do they just not have the necessary equipment to play them back?
Title: Re: Buzzr Lost and Found 2021
Post by: JMFabiano on September 27, 2021, 07:54:14 AM
With all the Lost and Found stuff BUZZR's aired over the years, you start to wonder what they could possibly have left for future marathons.  Hopefully there's more goodies to come in the future!
Well, there is at least one ABC-era Password in broadcast-worthy condition (the Somers/Klugman one GSN aired), perhaps they could run that (the right way - no credit crunch!). I'm sure there's a number of other things in the UCLA and/or Paley collections that would be worthwhile as well.

And you guys are quite welcome :)

If they have the MG/HS pilot (some of you may consider that sadism though) I am still curious to see how that played out.
Title: Re: Buzzr Lost and Found 2021
Post by: gamed121683 on September 27, 2021, 09:54:07 AM
I'm sure there's a number of other things in the UCLA and/or Paley collections that would be worthwhile as well.

One thing that comes to mind are those recordings of the NBC daytime lineup from 1971 and 73. I know those shows are apparently unplayable on their equipment, but do we know whether that means the tapes are in bad shape, or do they just not have the necessary equipment to play them back?

Well, I know that the UCLA Archives have a few episodes of Tom Kennedy's "Split Second" along with a handful of ABC "Password"'s. Do they also have the Andy Warhol Archive? I seem to recall hearing about plenty of rare game shows in that collection.
Title: Re: Buzzr Lost and Found 2021
Post by: Bryce L. on September 27, 2021, 10:01:25 AM
I'm sure there's a number of other things in the UCLA and/or Paley collections that would be worthwhile as well.

One thing that comes to mind are those recordings of the NBC daytime lineup from 1971 and 73. I know those shows are apparently unplayable on their equipment, but do we know whether that means the tapes are in bad shape, or do they just not have the necessary equipment to play them back?

Well, I know that the UCLA Archives have a few episodes of Tom Kennedy's "Split Second" along with a handful of ABC "Password"'s. Do they also have the Andy Warhol Archive? I seem to recall hearing about plenty of rare game shows in that collection.
AFAIK the Warhol Archive is part of the Paley material.
Title: Re: Buzzr Lost and Found 2021
Post by: Matt Ottinger on September 27, 2021, 11:02:19 AM
With all the Lost and Found stuff BUZZR's aired over the years, you start to wonder what they could possibly have left for future marathons.  Hopefully there's more goodies to come in the future!

I have two 16mm films that would be valid Lost & Found choices.  (Many of us have the video for one of them.)
Title: Re: Buzzr Lost and Found 2021
Post by: Clay Zambo on September 27, 2021, 11:13:13 AM
In the Whew! pilot (whew! glad they got rid of the green shag carpet on the podia for the run!) there are a couple of little boxes on the upstage side of the Charger podium. It looked like one of them was showing "1" at one point, but that might have just been a reflection of something else. Anybody know what they were?
Title: Re: Buzzr Lost and Found 2021
Post by: That Don Guy on September 27, 2021, 11:47:06 AM
I'm sure there's a number of other things in the UCLA and/or Paley collections that would be worthwhile as well.

One thing that comes to mind are those recordings of the NBC daytime lineup from 1971 and 73. I know those shows are apparently unplayable on their equipment, but do we know whether that means the tapes are in bad shape, or do they just not have the necessary equipment to play them back?

Wasn't this also the problem with the first two seasons of The Joker's Wild (and the complete run of Spin-Off) that were found at WCBS - the tapes were in good shape, but had to be converted, and expensively at that (which, in part, led to the decision not to do Spin-Off)?
Title: Re: Buzzr Lost and Found 2021
Post by: mmb5 on September 27, 2021, 07:26:36 PM
Barely Useful Fact: The ABC Passwords at UCLA are in B&W.
Title: Re: Buzzr Lost and Found 2021
Post by: BillCullen1 on September 27, 2021, 10:33:17 PM
Take Your Choice was rather cute. Not as fun as Two For The Money, but not terrible. And...Dick was clearly not sober during that Mindreaders pilot. Entirely understandable. ;D

G-T really liked Fred Allen. They let him host Judge For Yourself and be a panelist on WML in addition to hosting Take Your Choice. $5K was a lot of money back then. We also got to see Fred's wife, Portland Hoffa who brought on contestants and Tex Antoine, who became a weatherman in the NYC area.

CNR did several pilots for G-T. He also did Spell Binders and Star Words in addition to Mindreaders.
Title: Re: Buzzr Lost and Found 2021
Post by: Otm Shank on September 27, 2021, 11:59:18 PM
With all the Lost and Found stuff BUZZR's aired over the years, you start to wonder what they could possibly have left for future marathons.  Hopefully there's more goodies to come in the future!

I have two 16mm films that would be valid Lost & Found choices.  (Many of us have the video for one of them.)

I have often thought about that it would be really cool if our crowdsourced film was a Lost & Found episode.
Title: Re: Buzzr Lost and Found 2021
Post by: Blanquepage on September 28, 2021, 12:15:04 AM
With all the Lost and Found stuff BUZZR's aired over the years, you start to wonder what they could possibly have left for future marathons.  Hopefully there's more goodies to come in the future!

I have two 16mm films that would be valid Lost & Found choices.  (Many of us have the video for one of them.)

I have often thought about that it would be really cool if our crowdsourced film was a Lost & Found episode.
As have I! In fact I've been holding that Betty White ABC Password relic, still sealed in the film can in which I received it.
I even emailed the forthcoming Archives of Game Show History with expressed intention to donate it months ago, and got no response.  :-\
And for the record, I'm not entirely sure how it made it into the Betty White Pet Set as a bonus. I assumed that someone found a way to send a dub to Betty and her management team and they decided to include it.
Title: Re: Buzzr Lost and Found 2021
Post by: thomas_meighan on September 28, 2021, 01:28:44 AM
Throwing out ideas on rare/short-lived G-T material that might be good for future Lost & Found series—

*Any of the 1963-65 “Match Game” kinescopes known to exist at the Library of Congress
*The color “Match Game” from June 1969 with Peggy Cass and Tony Randall (Paley collection)
*Several “Password” possibilities: UCLA has a kinescope of the 9-15-1965 daytime episode with the Smothers Brothers playing; the two color tapes from 1971-72; and there’s also a B&W copy of the 9-28-1973 episode at UCLA, which was preserved in 2005
*The “Celebrity Match Mates” pilot hosted by Gene Rayburn from January 1973 (if a copy exists)
*The “Mind Readers” pilot hosted by Jack Clark from December 1975, unrelated to the ‘79 series (if a copy exists)
*Anything from the 1976 “I’ve Got a Secret”
*Any of the 1985 “Now You See It” pilots

Title: Re: Buzzr Lost and Found 2021
Post by: BillCullen1 on September 28, 2021, 08:27:27 AM
Throwing out ideas on rare/short-lived G-T material that might be good for future Lost & Found series—

*Several “Password” possibilities:
*Anything from the 1976 “I’ve Got a Secret”

Password All Stars would be good. I know the '76 IGAS with Rodney Dangerfield is on YouTube. I don't recall if Buzzr ever aired Spell Binders. If not, that's a possibility.
Title: Re: Buzzr Lost and Found 2021
Post by: Bryce L. on September 28, 2021, 08:35:46 AM
I don't recall if Buzzr ever aired Spell Binders.
It hasn't.
Title: Re: Buzzr Lost and Found 2021
Post by: Casey Buck on September 29, 2021, 12:09:29 AM
How about Time Machine? It never aired in reruns, and it's a Grundy show.
Title: Re: Buzzr Lost and Found 2021
Post by: TonicBH on September 29, 2021, 04:31:45 AM
I know most of us would find it boring since we've seen it before, but it'd be nice for Buzzr to consider the short-lived revivals of some of the classic shows on a future Lost and Found: Blockbusters '87, Match Game '90...

But most importantly: An episode of Now You See It 1989. Just to finally shut up the "Chuck Henry blocked them" naysayers.
Title: Re: Buzzr Lost and Found 2021
Post by: tvwxman on September 29, 2021, 08:06:02 AM
First off, Thank you Bryce for the upload.

What a nice treat to see another Showoffs. I've always been a huge fan of Bobby Van, and seeing him do a G/T show showed me just how underrated of a host I think he is, and I absolutely think he could have had a nice career had he not died 6 years later.

Loved the show - flaws in the format and all.

What's the status on Showoffs? Destroyed? Anyone know why? And what theater was that taped at ?
Title: Re: Buzzr Lost and Found 2021
Post by: Chief-O on September 29, 2021, 10:45:35 AM
And what theater was that taped at ?

ABC Prospect; I believe studio 54 (LMAD's/Feud's studio).
Title: Re: Buzzr Lost and Found 2021
Post by: JMFabiano on September 29, 2021, 05:52:19 PM
I know most of us would find it boring since we've seen it before, but it'd be nice for Buzzr to consider the short-lived revivals of some of the classic shows on a future Lost and Found: Blockbusters '87, Match Game '90...

But most importantly: An episode of Now You See It 1989. Just to finally shut up the "Chuck Henry blocked them" naysayers.

Aha! 

With Scrabble and (anything that's not Whew! that isn't owned by Fremantle) usually being mentioned, NYSI89 sometimes gets lost in the shuffle of remaining shows Buzzr could open the Forbidden Door for.

MG/HS proved the Rayburn Embargo stories wrong, I too would love to see that other embargo legend disproven similarly.
Title: Re: Buzzr Lost and Found 2021
Post by: SuperMatch93 on September 29, 2021, 06:33:34 PM
MG/HS proved the Rayburn Embargo stories wrong, I too would love to see that other embargo legend disproven similarly.

It has been already; Adam Nedeff asked an old-school GSN employee who simply said that no one in programming was interested in showing it.
Title: Re: Buzzr Lost and Found 2021
Post by: JMFabiano on September 29, 2021, 06:54:15 PM
MG/HS proved the Rayburn Embargo stories wrong, I too would love to see that other embargo legend disproven similarly.

It has been already; Adam Nedeff asked an old-school GSN employee who simply said that no one in programming was interested in showing it.

Indeed.  But airing it would "officially" be proving it. 

(I also believe he was the first to confirm that Gene nor his estate was blocking MG/HS from reruns.  This was a while before Buzzr acquired it)