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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: BrandonFG on March 23, 2021, 04:52:22 PM
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In this universe, it's {The Goldbergs}1980-something{/TG}, and you get to be an undefeated $ale contestant. Which bonus round do you do your damage?
1a: Shopping era; you buy "the lot" and cash jackpot. For the sake of this conversation, it's a flat $75K.
1b: Shopping era; you buy the 75K cash jackpot.
2: Winner's Board; you run the table and come back to win the 50K.
3: Winner's Big Money Game; you run the table to win the cash each day, plus the car and 50K.
Me personally, I'm taking the WBMG*. The only bonus prizes I really want are the car, trip, and cash. I'd prolly pick up at least one trip from Instant Bargains (albeit it's likely not overseas), along with smaller stuff like jewelry, appliances, and furniture from IBs and Fame Games. Furthermore, the cash from the WBMG pays $95K, so I've surpassed the jackpot. I know we rag on the cars getting cheaper towards the end of the run, but 18K for a new ride in 1988 was still pretty fancy**.
/*Fight me
//**Change my mind
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Furthermore, the cash from the WBMG pays $95K, so I've surpassed the jackpot.
I'm only mentioning this as a hypothetical, but you could theoretically win a total of $0 from the WBMG after seven episodes. Highly improbable, but the possibility exists.
Give me the Winner's Board. I'll keep the car, cash, and trips and decline the rest. I probably wouldn't go for the $50k though.
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Furthermore, the cash from the WBMG pays $95K, so I've surpassed the jackpot.
I'm only mentioning this as a hypothetical, but you could theoretically win a total of $0 from the WBMG after seven episodes. Highly improbable, but the possibility exists.
In this scenario, you win every WBMG. $95K and a car.
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I'd definitely go with the WBMG. Even if I didn't win it every time like in your scenario, I'm not putting anything at risk along the way.
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Did one risk his prizes to come back during the matching board era?
If I were to choose my own adventure, it would include the flip-panel billboard wall from Jack Kelly’s run. Gosh, stupid things stick in my brain.
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Only after winning all ten prizes.
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Did one risk his prizes to come back during the matching board era?
Yes. That's how Mark DeCarlo won it all.
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Furthermore, the cash from the WBMG pays $95K, so I've surpassed the jackpot.
I'm only mentioning this as a hypothetical, but you could theoretically win a total of $0 from the WBMG after seven episodes. Highly improbable, but the possibility exists.
In this scenario, you win every WBMG. $95K and a car.
My apologies for missing that. Then hell yes, I'm taking $95k and an import.
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Some of the cars towards 1989 were still in the 20K range, so I can see the appeal.
My decision would be to go to the Winner's Board, run the table, try to pick up as much swag in the front game (dabble in Instant Cash if it's tempting enough). Whether or not I go for 50K depends on how well I've performed in the last 5 games - if my margins of victory were comfortable enough that someone won't come after me in Speed Round, then I'm more willing to risk it. We've seen how folks can falter in games 9 and 10 and that might be an unacceptable risk.
\fully aware of the guaranteed prizes in the WBMG era.
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Whether or not I go for 50K depends on how well I've performed in the last 5 games - if my margins of victory were comfortable enough that someone won't come after me in Speed Round, then I'm more willing to risk it.
I'm assuming a tiebreaker anywhere in those final five games means you're pulling the ripcord on day ten?
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Not if I go in knowing I am going to win out. Tiebreaks all day every day.
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1a: Shopping era; you buy "the lot" and cash jackpot. For the sake of this conversation, it's a flat $75K. that's for me
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Whether or not I go for 50K depends on how well I've performed in the last 5 games - if my margins of victory were comfortable enough that someone won't come after me in Speed Round, then I'm more willing to risk it.
I'm assuming a tiebreaker anywhere in those final five games means you're pulling the ripcord on day ten?
Good question - especially if you’re still winning out. I’d be likely to not freak out if they were wins 6 and 7; 8-10 will really question things.
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As a contestant, I'm WBMG. As a viewer, I still prefer the shopping format.
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Jack, I’d like to go off the board for AU Temptation’s 10-in-60 chance to build shopping cash.
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No love for the pre-jackpot version, where the largest prize was a $50,000-ish car plus around $5000 in cash - IIRC, the exact value of the cash made the value of "the lot" exactly $95,000?
Personally, I'm a fan of the 1970s version bonus round, where you can buy multiple prizes, and they just kept adding bigger ones as the current champion increased their total.
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Did one risk his prizes to come back during the matching board era?
Yes. That's how Mark DeCarlo won it all.
Ah! Thanks. And I wish I knew the 70s version better.
I can see why NBC kept pushing for a bonus round. I don't like the WBMG, but the original shopping, with a mass of prize descriptions and the anti-climatic "Jim, I'm coming back" wasn't a great capper to an exciting show. Putting each day's big buy at random would seem to help, but the board was sort of anti-climactic, too.
As a viewer not winning anything, I think Rossi's end segment was the best we've had. It had a way to win more shopping money, and five days to the top prize was difficult enough yet didn't drag out.
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As a viewer not winning anything, I think Rossi's end segment was the best we've had. It had a way to win more shopping money, and five days to the top prize was difficult enough yet didn't drag out.
But it also had the potential for the awkward moment of "it's day five, you don't have enough money for the car, so buy what you can and GTFO."
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As a viewer not winning anything, I think Rossi's end segment was the best we've had. It had a way to win more shopping money, and five days to the top prize was difficult enough yet didn't drag out.
But it also had the potential for the awkward moment of "it's day five, you don't have enough money for the car, so buy what you can and GTFO."
Which is why to me, it was another in the list of failings that Temptation had.
The Knock-Off portion to add money was pretty nice, but why was there a need to cut off the champion at five wins? The whole beauty of the shopping game was, to me, the climb and the greater risk being taken the longer you played on. Like, is this going to be the day Joey JoJo Junior Shabadoo of Bucksnort, Tennessee gets taken down in his quest to get that $100K in cash and prizes. It just makes everything anticlimactic to tell Joey JoJo to sod off after five days and only give him one prize for his effort (that was another thing, no lot to win).
Me, I’d rather be on in the Winner’s Board era. Sure, all that cash and the car in the WBMG are tempting, but as far as I see it, a) I’m good enough to have gone all the way (not that eight wins is anything to scoff at, but...ya know...eleven and I didn’t have to play one more time if I didn’t want to), and b) at least for the first eight shots at the board I’m picking stuff off at my own pace and not being forced into taking something because it was on offer that day.
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Me, I’d rather be on in the Winner’s Board era. Sure, all that cash and the car in the WBMG are tempting, but as far as I see it, a) I’m good enough to have gone all the way (not that eight wins is anything to scoff at, but...ya know...eleven and I didn’t have to play one more time if I didn’t want to), and b) at least for the first eight shots at the board I’m picking stuff off at my own pace and not being forced into taking something because it was on offer that day.
Yesterday I watched a clip where a longtime champion was dethroned on his 10th day. The only prize he didn't clear from the board was the car, but Jim mentioned he won $18K in cash along the way. While I stand by my answer of 95K and the car, if I really wanted to do so, I could buy a nice car for $18,000 in 1985.
/I like Clay's answer too
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I can see why NBC kept pushing for a bonus round. I don't like the WBMG, but the original shopping, with a mass of prize descriptions and the anti-climatic "Jim, I'm coming back" wasn't a great capper to an exciting show.
Give the champion a chance to cash out at something like mid-four figures per game won. Go for the car and the $100K jackpot, or walk away with $30K cash now?
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I can see why NBC kept pushing for a bonus round. I don't like the WBMG, but the original shopping, with a mass of prize descriptions and the anti-climatic "Jim, I'm coming back" wasn't a great capper to an exciting show.
Give the champion a chance to cash out at something like mid-four figures per game won. Go for the car and the $100K jackpot, or walk away with $30K cash now?
I’m more of a fan of a one time only bonus with the car, maybe hide $25k in the glove box or trunk. You get one chance to take it. If you don’t, and you don’t make enough to buy the next available prize (whether it be all of the prizes on the stage or the jackpot), you don’t get another chance at it.
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Give the champion a chance to cash out at something like mid-four figures per game won. Go for the car and the $100K jackpot, or walk away with $30K cash now?
That's effectively what the prize is there for.
For a game show that presumably changed formats because they were tired of paying out cash jackpots worth over $50k every few weeks and not attaching prizes to them to leaven the budget bite I cannot see them attaching a cash prize to the item up for grabs if the champion quits.
The thing about changing to the Winners Bored is that the prizes were less valuable than the ones up for grabs during shopping. (No three week South American jaunts or fortnights on the Orient Express--now it is a weekend in Puerto Vallarta.) The other issue is that any bonus game is going to feel out of place because we're going from fast Q&A to something else. Maybe they could take a page from Battlestars where the champion plays a Fame Game and picture puzzle for cash that goes in escrow to be claimed at the cash jackpot level but I can imagine that a champion who has just battled for twenty minutes would be relieved to not have to do anything for five minutes but listen to Jim and Jay and smile until it is time for the decision.
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I can see why NBC kept pushing for a bonus round. I don't like the WBMG, but the original shopping, with a mass of prize descriptions and the anti-climatic "Jim, I'm coming back" wasn't a great capper to an exciting show.
Give the champion a chance to cash out at something like mid-four figures per game won. Go for the car and the $100K jackpot, or walk away with $30K cash now?
I’m more of a fan of a one time only bonus with the car, maybe hide $25k in the glove box or trunk. You get one chance to take it. If you don’t, and you don’t make enough to buy the next available prize (whether it be all of the prizes on the stage or the jackpot), you don’t get another chance at it.
Not to veer too off topic, but I've always thought they offered the champions way too little on Lot days in terms of cash added to Instant bargains.
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I can see why NBC kept pushing for a bonus round. I don't like the WBMG, but the original shopping, with a mass of prize descriptions and the anti-climatic "Jim, I'm coming back" wasn't a great capper to an exciting show.
Give the champion a chance to cash out at something like mid-four figures per game won. Go for the car and the $100K jackpot, or walk away with $30K cash now?
I’m more of a fan of a one time only bonus with the car, maybe hide $25k in the glove box or trunk. You get one chance to take it. If you don’t, and you don’t make enough to buy the next available prize (whether it be all of the prizes on the stage or the jackpot), you don’t get another chance at it.
Not to veer too off topic, but I've always thought they offered the champions way too little on Lot days in terms of cash added to Instant bargains.
Agreed. During the shopping era episodes I've seen, departing champs only went home with a couple thousand for their troubles. Meanwhile, a Wheel contestant racked that up in a couple rounds.
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Let’s take the original pure shopping round, the grand prize is a luxury car and money costing compiled front game winnings of, say, $600. What if each day they let you buy a smaller prize...yet come back? The drawback to buying is you’re further away from the end goal.
There isn’t “the lot” on display, just the new temptation each day. As a champion keeps returning, the prizes get bigger, though prices stay around $100-200. The host could haggle as in the front game. As the car approaches, maybe the temptation does require exiting the show but for thousands of dollars or a smaller car. Then again, a champ could just buy the small prize each day and play as long as he can.
I’m trying to leave shopping as the final act, but make the champion’s decision more interesting. Instead of stay or never come back, it’s spend or save.
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That's effectively what the prize is there for.
Sure, but I think a lot of people would rather have cash than most of the prizes on a lower level than the car. A lot of them seem like white elephants.
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As a viewer not winning anything, I think Rossi's end segment was the best we've had. It had a way to win more shopping money, and five days to the top prize was difficult enough yet didn't drag out.
But it also had the potential for the awkward moment of "it's day five, you don't have enough money for the car, so buy what you can and GTFO."
In the awkward formulation of $ale final acts, I think Aussie Temptation had the best idea. You've still got the champion choosing whether to risk it and play on, but then you've got a standard but well-executed end game functioning as a cash builder for the cash jackpot, so we're not left with the anticlimax of a contest saying, "Well, Jim, the moped looks great, but I'm coming back," when we all know that's exactly how it's going to end.
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That's effectively what the prize is there for.
Sure, but I think a lot of people would rather have cash than most of the prizes on a lower level than the car. A lot of them seem like white elephants.
Nobody is making them spend up. Perhaps there should have been more cash available in the front game then. It can't be "people should buy more" and also "golly, who would want this?"