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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: aaron sica on February 25, 2021, 08:39:33 AM
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If not for reference books and the internet to debunk your claim, what would you still insist you remember?
I honestly thought that Match Game '7X made it into 1980 and could still imagine seeing the "Match Game 80" sign in my mind, but I know it never happened.
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One of my earliest memories of watching game shows as a kid was "Hit Man", probably cause of the video game aspect. I also was sure that it was hosted by Chuck Woolery until the early 90's and EOTVGS.
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I could've sworn I remembered the set to Password Plus on my grandmother's TV set in her apartment as a young child.
I was born in 1983. So no.
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Until I saw TPIR reruns on GSN during the Dark Period, I always thought the Give or Keep board was set at center stage instead of to the left of the turntable.
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Because Vanna used to wait until the letters lit up before turning them, I thought that the actual letter didn't appear until the box was lit, even if she arrived at the correct position early.
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Until I saw TPIR reruns on GSN during the Dark Period, I always thought the Give or Keep board was set at center stage instead of to the left of the turntable.
And speaking of, I was sure Give or Keep was always played as the first stage game.
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I thought that if a player hit zero on $ale of the Century, they were out of the game.
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Not a false memory as much as me being a stupid kid. My grandma got GSN as soon as it came out. I was 8. I remember watching the shows, not understanding the concept of reruns, and thought all the episodes were new... I would get so confused when Bob’s hair would be darker on TPIR.
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Don’t know if this really counts, but as a child, I thought all game shows were recorded live, and wondered how they managed to get clips for promos that aired in advance.
I also remember an incident on PYL where Peter walked over to the board and asked who was in there, and they tossed out a piece of clothing. I wanna say I thought the Whammy was a real creature who lived behind the board.
For years, on the 80s Pyramid, I thought if a contestant won both Winner’s Circles, that they went home with $35,000, and not an augmented $25K.
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For years, on the 80s Pyramid, I thought if a contestant won both Winner’s Circles, that they went home with $35,000, and not an augmented $25K.
I thought that too, until I saw on Donnymid that they flashed both a $15,000 and $25,000 graphic and was able to put it together.
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For years, on the 80s Pyramid, I thought if a contestant won both Winner’s Circles, that they went home with $35,000, and not an augmented $25K.
I thought that too, until I saw on Donnymid that they flashed both a $15,000 and $25,000 graphic and was able to put it together.
I remember that causing a little excitement on ATGS when the show premiered. Apparently a lotta people were confused. :)
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John Davidson generally gets a bad rap for his Pyramid hosting abilities, but he always made it clear that the contestant played for a total of $25K if they made a second trip to the WC.
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I thought that if a player hit zero on $ale of the Century, they were out of the game.
Until very recently, I was sure I had seen a contestant go a few bucks negative.
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For years, on the 80s Pyramid, I thought if a contestant won both Winner’s Circles, that they went home with $35,000, and not an augmented $25K.
Speaking of Pyramid? Another false memory was that ABC had primetime Pyramid specials much like Feud did, that aired at 8. I remembered the kids getting the 35 seconds instead of 30. Thanks to being able to reference, I know now that there was only one ABC primetime "Pyramid" special (and from seeing some kids eps, they *did* get 35 seconds).
Another false one for me... Tic Tac Dough having a kids week, and when they went to face the dragon, prizes listed behind the squares, not money amounts.
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Up until I joined the hobby more than 20 years ago, I "remembered:"
- The huge Tic Tac Dough floor sign returned when Jim Caldwell took over
- Bob Goen was hosting WoF before Changing Keys was remixed
- Watching one week some random guy named Blake "Evans" appear as USA Chain Reaction host
On that last one, that's how I'm positive that if Blake's episodes were skipped over when airing in regular sequence, at least a few were definitely rerun at some point.
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I didn't completely understand reruns - and lived in an area that was willfully a bit behind anyway - so I thought that all of the game shows on USA and Family Channel were new.
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I remember thinking that the trilons on the Pyramid were motorized.
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I didn't completely understand reruns - and lived in an area that was willfully a bit behind anyway - so I thought that all of the game shows on USA and Family Channel were new.
This made you the perfect target audience for NBC's "It's New To You" campaign:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NM0znq-trvg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NM0znq-trvg)
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I also remember an incident on PYL where Peter walked over to the board and asked who was in there, and they tossed out a piece of clothing. I wanna say I thought the Whammy was a real creature who lived behind the board.
I don't think this one's a false memory. I remember seeing this on a USA rerun.
My false memory is probably because of the similar shapes of the board, but I could swear I remember TPIR staging Bonus Game similarly to Give or Keep for a while.
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Blame it on the dozens of Milton Bradley editions, but I thought the Narz version of Concentration had FORFEIT squares and gag gifts and the Trebek version was the first incarnation that did away with them.
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I don't think this one's a false memory. I remember seeing this on a USA rerun.
Oh I remember watching on USA as well, but after that incident, I thought the Whammy was real.
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-As a little kid, I thought "Blackout" was hosted by Bob Eubanks. I guess the only way I'd have been able to recall his name was from also seeing "Card Sharks" at the time (and not remembering its existence, let alone anything else about it).
-I'm sure I thought at one time that most game shows came from the same studio. Let's see here....TPIR, Combs "Feud", WOF, "Pyramid", Finn TJW...guess I *was* right on that one.... :P
I also remember an incident on PYL where Peter walked over to the board and asked who was in there, and they tossed out a piece of clothing. I wanna say I thought the Whammy was a real creature who lived behind the board.
I don't think this one's a false memory. I remember seeing this on a USA rerun.
And I remember seeing a video or screenshot of this somewhere (I want to say Brad Francini's old site???).
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I also remember an incident on PYL where Peter walked over to the board and asked who was in there, and they tossed out a piece of clothing.
I don't think this one's a false memory. I remember seeing this on a USA rerun.
If we're all discussing the same PYL episode, that I believe is the one that had Mel Blanc "call in" because of the faulty "Sylvester" question earlier that day.
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The one that immediately came to mind: Bullseye was a celebrity only game show because, until I was in high school, I had only seen Celebrity Bullseye reruns on USA.
NBC's TTTT ran on rotating guest hosts because I never saw the same host twice.
The tiles on Scrabble were dropped through a scanner and then into a trash can after being read. ;)
When I was really young, I thought you won all 8 cars on Classic Concentration after winning the bonus round. It made perfect sense to my 4 year old brain!
This was a fun thread!
Anthony
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Had a lot of false, and some strange memories of game shows when I was a tot ...
-- As Beatlefreak mentioned, I thought "Bullseye" was a celebrity-only show as well until I saw reruns of the civilian version on cable
-- I thought the studio audience/contestants on "Treasure Hunt" consisted solely of people celebrating their birthdays that day, and the concept of the show involved people trying to win a great birthday gift.
-- When "Battlestars" came back as "The New Battlestars" after just a few months off the air, I thought television had a "minor league system" akin to baseball, and the show was sent down to the minors to fix itself before returning to "the majors" (which was regular TV). I was only 6-7 at the time, so I couldn't really explain what exactly "the minors" for TV shows was (maybe a radio program).
-- On TPIR, I swear I remembered Penny Ante involving contestants receiving pennies of three different sizes -- one smaller than a regular cent, one the size of a regular cent, and the third a comically large penny that had to be rolled onto stage.
-- For a time, I thought contestants wore the same outfits every show because they were competing to win more clothes.
-- When I was 5-6, I thought the "celebrities" who appeared on every game show there was did so because they were overqualified to appear on any game show, so their "celebrity claim to fame" was being the smartest people in the room. Forget Einstein and Stephen Hawking -- Betty, Nipsey and CNR were the true cerebral minds!
JD
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I would have sworn seeing someone win $10000 on Chain Reaction with the half-a-zero format.
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I'm not sure if these are quite in line with this thread, but it seems similar to others.
As a child, I thought each game show taped in its own place in Hollywood, and you'd see the show's signs out in front of where you could go see them, like a restaurant or store sign.
I also thought the mid show break on TPiR where the logo is zoomed out so that the light border was visible again was done because they had to do that so that the light border would be in the right place for the next show.
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Forgot a couple more.
-I mentioned in the Remote Control thread that I always got scared when contestants were booted off the show. For some reason, I really thought there were evil people backstage torturing the departing contestants. That article also reminded me that some contestants' chairs were sent upside-down, which equally terrified me as a kid.
-I don't know why, but for some reason I had it in my head that when a contestant hit Bankrupt on Wheel, if they had a prize, they had to do a walk of shame and carry the wedge off-stage.
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Me? At first I thought that Johnny Gilbert was of Italian descendance. I mean, he looked Italian.....
A "stretch?"
Cordially,
Tammy
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I thought that if a player hit zero on $ale of the Century, they were out of the game.
That was the rule on the old Jack Kelly / Joe Garagiola version - at least, before it switched to couples. (On the weekly syndicated couples show, if a couple got down to zero, both couples got an extra $20.)
Blame it on the dozens of Milton Bradley editions, but I thought the Narz version of Concentration had FORFEIT squares and gag gifts and the Trebek version was the first incarnation that did away with them.
I knew it didn't have gag gifts, but did it really not have any Forfeit squares?
I have had quite a few false memories - the earliest one I can think of: I thought Dick Clark hosted the original You Don't Say!.
Some others:
I thought the original The Joker's Wild had a five-game limit, instead of the Joker Jackpot. (That's what happens when you only get to see the first week before school starts - and on a 5" black and white screen without a cable hookup, at that.) I also thought that, after the car was won in the first week, it was replaced by a boat (instead of a trip to Mexico).
Apparently, that "52-day Mediterranean cruise" I remember being on a lot of shows (Name That Tune, Pro-Fan, and some Dealer's Choice) was actually a South American cruise.
I thought the first episode of TPIR didn't have either Bonus Game, but some variation on Clock Game where you get seven guesses to guess the price of a car, plus Grocery Game and Double Prices.
I also thought "Moneymaze" was one word throughout the series. Oh, wait - pretty much everybody else had the false memory that it was two words "except in the pilot."
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I knew it didn't have gag gifts, but did it really not have any Forfeit squares?
I'm pretty sure the Narz version DID have Forfeit squares - at least in its first couple of seasons. I got the box game for Christmas one year and when i saw the game had both Take and Forfeit squares, I wasn't surprised because that's what I saw on the show. I remember a couple of contestants trying to pick out the least expensive prize to forfeit.
Unless this is a false memory...
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I knew it didn't have gag gifts, but did it really not have any Forfeit squares?
I'm pretty sure the Narz version DID have Forfeit squares - at least in its first couple of seasons. I got the box game for Christmas one year and when i saw the game had both Take and Forfeit squares, I wasn't surprised because that's what I saw on the show. I remember a couple of contestants trying to pick out the least expensive prize to forfeit.
Unless this is a false memory...
Not saying it's a false memory, but neither of the two 1974 shows Winc. shared have any Forfeits, so if they were used, they were dropped by the end of the '73-'74 season at the latest.
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Another false one for me... Tic Tac Dough having a kids week, and when they went to face the dragon, prizes listed behind the squares, not money amounts.
You’re not alone on that one. I think I further misremembered that that was during the brief CBS run.
My false memory from $otC involved Barbara Phillips’s lot-win question. I thought it was about the then-recent return of the Sinai Peninsula (“EGPYT IS RIGHT!!”).
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THERE WAS A JOHN DAVIDSON $10,000 PYR....nah, serious answers here.
Remember the week or so of MG/HS where Gene had laryngitis? For some reason I attributed that to the syndicated regular MG. And I remember someone substituting for him because of it.
The 1980 Chain Reaction logo looking like the Love Connection one.
The Big Wheel getting stuck between spaces on the red peg, and Bob calling said peg "the penny".
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I’m not sure whether this one is a “false memory” or just blurry:
Did USA ever run episodes of $otC where the Fame Game board had celeb pics instead of numbers? I seem to recall seeing some eps from that era as a kid (so not YouTube uploads), and it looked so odd since I was used to the number board.
(I was a toddler when Perry $otC premiered, so I don’t think I’d have remembered it from first run.)
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I’m not sure whether this one is a “false memory” or just blurry:
Did USA ever run episodes of $otC where the Fame Game board had celeb pics instead of numbers? I seem to recall seeing some eps from that era as a kid (so not YouTube uploads), and it looked so odd since I was used to the number board.
(I was a toddler when Perry $otC premiered, so I don’t think I’d have remembered it from first run.)
No, they only ever ran the syndie series and the last six months, and the faces were only on during the first year or so of daytime.
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I’m not sure whether this one is a “false memory” or just blurry:
Did USA ever run episodes of $otC where the Fame Game board had celeb pics instead of numbers? I seem to recall seeing some eps from that era as a kid (so not YouTube uploads), and it looked so odd since I was used to the number board.
(I was a toddler when Perry $otC premiered, so I don’t think I’d have remembered it from first run.)
No, they only ever ran the syndie series and the last six months, and the faces were only on during the first year or so of daytime.
That’s kind of what I thought. Not sure, then, when or where I first saw a celeb board ep, but I guess we can chalk up another false memory. ;D
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Another false one for me... Tic Tac Dough having a kids week, and when they went to face the dragon, prizes listed behind the squares, not money amounts.
You’re not alone on that one. I think I further misremembered that that was during the brief CBS run.
You may also be misremembering how the bonus game on the CBS version worked - there were four Xs, four Os, and the Dragon; each space was worth $150, and there was only one three-in-a-row, which needed to be found to win the prize.
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I thought that Charlie O' Donnell announcedThe Challengers until I got a copy of EOTVGS. Also, I thought that Charlie Tuna announced $otc.
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I thought that Hot Potato had a board game because I saw cards and thought I saw the logo. Also, speaking of HP, I thought Jim Lange hosted it.
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Don’t know if this really counts, but as a child, I thought all game shows were recorded live, and wondered how they managed to get clips for promos that aired in advance.
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I wanna say I thought the Whammy was a real creature who lived behind the board.
Along this line of childhood misconceptions, four-year-old me didn't realize that game shows had writers, and I assumed that after each round, Pat and Vanna went behind the puzzleboard and racked their brains to think of the next puzzle to put up.
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As a kid, I used to think "Concentration" opened NBC daytime service. Looking at old TV Guides for my area, I found our affiliate covered the 10am show with the last third of a locally originated movie.
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Here's one that just came up for me...was scrolling through my Facebook feed and came across a screenshot of a Wheel ep. from 2002 showing that they already had the LED score displays in place. I could have sworn they still had the old eggcrate displays until at least 2005.
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I swear I remember:
A 1994 team on Supermarket Sweep just destroying the competition with about 4:30 of sweep time and ending with a Big Sweep total of around $2300.
A bonus round of TJW '90 ending with "Joker, JOKER....Tires!?!" and then Pat very awkwardly congratulating the contestant for acquiring four brand new radials.
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As a kid, I used to think "Concentration" opened NBC daytime service. Looking at old TV Guides for my area, I found our affiliate covered the 10am show with the last third of a locally originated movie.
Along these same lines, I thought P+ was cancelled in 1981. I was quite surprised to see it listed in a Washington-Baltimore TV Guide in March, 1982 (week of 13-19, literally right before its cancellation). All three NBC stations covered in my local TVG (2 from Baltimore, 3 from Philly, 8 from Lancaster) offered news at noon and didn't slot the show anywhere else. 4 in Washington DID offer noon news, but showed the noon option on a one-day delay at 9:30am. I also was later surprised "Card Sharks" was on as long at it was, for the same reason.
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During the 90s I could've sworn having a vague recollection of once seeing a Wheel of Fortune episode where the yellow player's flipper broke off the wheel in the middle of the game, and their "solution" was to disqualify him and just play the rest of the game with only two players. Now that the internet exists and I have a better idea of how game show production works in general (i.e. if the wheel did break they'd stop tape and fix it, obviously) I'm pretty sure I just saw a rare game that had to go to a tiebreaker when I was 3 or 4 years old and my developing brain somehow warped it into the story I believed.
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There was a summer in either 1994 or 1995 where Nickelodeon aired Super Sloppy Double Dare (1989) reruns in the mornings. I remember watching every day and loving it because for a few years, Family Double Dare was the only version they aired. But years later, after getting Nickelodeon GAS, I realized I had misremembered a couple of things about those episodes. First, I thought Marc Summers mentioned Nickelodeon in the sign-off (something like “Join us here every day on Nickelodeon, the first kids’ network.”). Second, I thought Harvey talked over the Viacom logo (and pronounced it “Vee-a-Com”). I don’t know what I was thinking with Marc’s sign-off, but I now know what I had mixed up with the Viacom logo. That’s the way Split Second always ended, and I was watching those reruns on Family Channel during the same time period.
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I don’t know what I was thinking with Marc’s sign-off
Perhaps you were just misremembering his Family Double Dare sign-off. Time permitting, sometimes Marc would end with “Join us here on Nickelodeon every Saturday and Sunday at 7:30” in 1990, or “Join us every weekend at 5:00 Eastern, 4:00 Central” in 1992.
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Second, I thought Harvey talked over the Viacom logo (and pronounced it “Vee-a-Com”). I don’t know what I was thinking with Marc’s sign-off, but I now know what I had mixed up with the Viacom logo. That’s the way Split Second always ended, and I was watching those reruns on Family Channel during the same time period.
Maybe you were thinking of the Universal Studios closing announcement? Every Nick original ended with the announcer saying the show originated from Universal in Orlando.
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I swear I remember:
A 1994 team on Supermarket Sweep just destroying the competition with about 4:30 of sweep time and ending with a Big Sweep total of around $2300.
Considering how awash they were with bonuses circa 1993-1994 (not making this one up, there's a 1993 episode that Buzzr's aired, where Team 1 ended up winning the game on bonuses alone), I'd actually be willing to believe this one.
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That the "change any one card per line" originated with Perry's version, not Eubanks'.
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I swear I remember:
A 1994 team on Supermarket Sweep just destroying the competition with about 4:30 of sweep time and ending with a Big Sweep total of around $2300.
Considering how awash they were with bonuses circa 1993-1994 (not making this one up, there's a 1993 episode that Buzzr's aired, where Team 1 ended up winning the game on bonuses alone), I'd actually be willing to believe this one.
The $2300 I'd buy. The 4:30 not so much. There just isn't 3:00 on offer, even if you sweep the Round Robin.
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I swear I remember:
A 1994 team on Supermarket Sweep just destroying the competition with about 4:30 of sweep time and ending with a Big Sweep total of around $2300.
Considering how awash they were with bonuses circa 1993-1994 (not making this one up, there's a 1993 episode that Buzzr's aired, where Team 1 ended up winning the game on bonuses alone), I'd actually be willing to believe this one.
The $2300 I'd buy. The 4:30 not so much. There just isn't 3:00 on offer, even if you sweep the Round Robin.
There's enough time out there, especially if all teams get 30 seconds on both A/B/C questions or the 3-question rounds where each team can earn 10 seconds. I have an ep. from 2000 on my PC with 3:50/3:00/2:50 and it was very possible for the 3:50 team to get to 4:30; they entered the Round Robin at 3:20 and the other teams did get 10 second questions earlier in the game.
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Must be a slow news day on some blogs, guess who is picking on this thread (without a good reason why?)
Another Card Sharks one....thinking the push rule started on Eubanks. I only had the Perry finale at the time from 1981 episodes, and assumed they made the change cause it was the last episode.
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Must be a slow news day on some blogs, guess who is picking on this thread (without a good reason why?)
Do we really need to keep referring to him? He’s not here for a reason, and it only gives him unnecessary press by mentioning every little thing he says.
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There's enough time out there, especially if all teams get 30 seconds on both A/B/C questions or the 3-question rounds where each team can earn 10 seconds. I have an ep. from 2000 on my PC with 3:50/3:00/2:50 and it was very possible for the 3:50 team to get to 4:30; they entered the Round Robin at 3:20 and the other teams did get 10 second questions earlier in the game.
Could you do it in 1994 like the OP said though? I don't think the 30 Second Shootout was a thing yet, and I think they were only doing one ABC question at the time.
And if the 30 Second Shootout was around in 1994, there's another false memory for the thread.
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Must be a slow news day on some blogs, guess who is picking on this thread (without a good reason why?)
I agree with Brandon..... he (and several other forums and blogs) uses this board as content for their own, at the same time "trashing" it. Let it go.
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...if the 30 Second Shootout was around in 1994...
It was, debuted in 1993 (has popped up on a few of the episodes Buzzr aired in their last batch).
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Here's an ancient false memory - early daytime CBS episodes of Password had the mid-show network/local ID cutaways that were quite common in the 50s.
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...if the 30 Second Shootout was around in 1994...
It was, debuted in 1993 (has popped up on a few of the episodes Buzzr aired in their last batch).
Well, there you go then. I sit corrected.
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OK back on track...
I remembered the Password Plus sign/logo being less cartoony than it really was.
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There's enough time out there, especially if all teams get 30 seconds on both A/B/C questions or the 3-question rounds where each team can earn 10 seconds. I have an ep. from 2000 on my PC with 3:50/3:00/2:50 and it was very possible for the 3:50 team to get to 4:30; they entered the Round Robin at 3:20 and the other teams did get 10 second questions earlier in the game.
Could you do it in 1994 like the OP said though? I don't think the 30 Second Shootout was a thing yet, and I think they were only doing one ABC question at the time.
And if the 30 Second Shootout was around in 1994, there's another false memory for the thread.
In the 2000 ep. I mentioned, the game wasn't the 30 Second Shootout. It was one of those games with 6 or 7 choices and each team can earn 10 seconds by picking one of the 3 right answers.
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My false memory was thinking the last "Password All Stars" was the last show of ABC Password. I remember seeing that last episode at the time and assumed it was gone after that and was surprised years later that it ran four more months in the "back to contestants" format.
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My false memory from childhood was thinking George Burns hosted Hot Potato.
It wasn't until I finally got internet and started researching game shows online and then watching Hot Potato on GSN that it was Bill Cullen hosting.
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Aaron Sica and I have had this conversation a lot. :P
When MG '90 premiered, I forever thought it aired at 10 am on WVEC. Aaron - who vacationed in my neck of the woods in summer 1990 - always reminds me MG was originally at 10:30. My confusion came from the fact that September was when it moved to 10, making room for Trump Card at 10:30.
I also thought that if a network show aired at whatever Eastern time, that it automatically aired three hours behind in the Pacific time zone. I distinctly remember asking my aunt if people in Cali got MG at 7:30 am.
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Two related to Wheel: I could've sworn that while the slide whistle was dedicated to Bankrupts, that the incorrect letter/guess buzzer was also dedicated to hitting Lose-A-Turn and I'm actually still surprised when I remember that this isn't the case and there's just silence (or an audience "Aw.") when it happens before moving on to the next player.
Also, while I knew that spotting contestants RSTLNE in the bonus round was something that came in the late 80s and wasn't always around, I could've sworn that there was always a bonus round. I was shocked to see a Woolery episode for the first time and see that was not the case.
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I also thought that if a network show aired at whatever Eastern time, that it automatically aired three hours behind in the Pacific time zone. I distinctly remember asking my aunt if people in Cali got MG at 7:30 am.
The closest I've seen to this with my own eyes is that, at least at one point in the late '80s/early '90s, the CBS affiliate in Denver carried daytime programming from the Eastern feed (with "CBS This Morning" from 6:00 to 8:00) and the NBC affiliate carried daytime programming from the Pacific feed. This meant that, for example, TPIR aired at 9:00 and Wheel aired at 11:00.
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When I was very young, I thought "lose a turn" on Wheel meant that the contestant would lose their next turn as well, and I thought I remembered that happening in the Windows version that Sony Imagesoft put out.
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Aaron Sica and I have had this conversation a lot. :P
When MG '90 premiered, I forever thought it aired at 10 am on WVEC. Aaron - who vacationed in my neck of the woods in summer 1990 - always reminds me MG was originally at 10:30. My confusion came from the fact that September was when it moved to 10, making room for Trump Card at 10:30.
I also thought that if a network show aired at whatever Eastern time, that it automatically aired three hours behind in the Pacific time zone. I distinctly remember asking my aunt if people in Cali got MG at 7:30 am.
Yep! I still remember being so pleasantly surprised that WVEC carried it. When I saw a 10am show that was a half hour, I crossed my fingers that maybe - just maybe - they'd slot MG90 at 10:30. I remember being so happy when I saw that they did.
Regarding the time zones - I think I actually learned time zones, believe it or not, from Nickelodeon! Back in 1982 when there was only one feed, they actually announced each time zone's time and displayed it on the screen with whatever show they were advertising.
I had no idea of the West Coast daytime TV setup until my first LA TV Guide in 1984, and that out there, the daytime schedule went 9am-3:30pm, instead of 10am-4:30pm.
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I had this vague memory/invented/dreamt an MG/HS scenario where no one picked a certain star in HS at all, so said star left the set and put a sign up saying so in their square.
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For years, on the 80s Pyramid, I thought if a contestant won both Winner’s Circles, that they went home with $35,000, and not an augmented $25K.
Speaking of Pyramid? Another false memory was that ABC had primetime Pyramid specials much like Feud did, that aired at 8. I remembered the kids getting the 35 seconds instead of 30. Thanks to being able to reference, I know now that there was only one ABC primetime "Pyramid" special (and from seeing some kids eps, they *did* get 35 seconds).
Another false one for me... Tic Tac Dough having a kids week, and when they went to face the dragon, prizes listed behind the squares, not money amounts.
TTD actually did have a kids week. I know because I got a DVD of Early GSN and More and they showed a kids episode of TTD during GSN's late night games.
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I'm not sure if these are quite in line with this thread, but it seems similar to others.
As a child, I thought each game show taped in its own place in Hollywood, and you'd see the show's signs out in front of where you could go see them, like a restaurant or store sign.
I also thought the mid show break on TPiR where the logo is zoomed out so that the light border was visible again was done because they had to do that so that the light border would be in the right place for the next show.
I thought of the same thing with the former.
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For years, on the 80s Pyramid, I thought if a contestant won both Winner’s Circles, that they went home with $35,000, and not an augmented $25K.
Speaking of Pyramid? Another false memory was that ABC had primetime Pyramid specials much like Feud did, that aired at 8. I remembered the kids getting the 35 seconds instead of 30. Thanks to being able to reference, I know now that there was only one ABC primetime "Pyramid" special (and from seeing some kids eps, they *did* get 35 seconds).
Another false one for me... Tic Tac Dough having a kids week, and when they went to face the dragon, prizes listed behind the squares, not money amounts.
TTD actually did have a kids week. In 2008, I received some early GSN DVDs from an online friend and they showed a kids episode of TTD from late night games.
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When I was very young, I thought "lose a turn" on Wheel meant that the contestant would lose their next turn as well, and I thought I remembered that happening in the Windows version that Sony Imagesoft put out.
This is STILL how the Pressman instructions are written as well: "Lose A Turn: If a player spins Lose A Turn, he/she ends that turn and forfeits the next turn."
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I too, thought that runs of game shows were new episodes and originals and not reruns. I did not get the concept of reruns. I remember when I was five I wanted a scrabble T-shirt but could not find one and also when I went to Toys R Us during a vacation in New Orleans when I was seven to look for the pyramid home game but I could not find it. I finally realized they were reruns when I saw the Viacom Silver V at the end of Split Second on FAM and i thought that Viacom reverted back to the silver V. Also when I saw the old 20th Century Fox TV logo at the end of a $100k Pyramid rerun on USA. And I thought wait, that's not right.
I also thought that Game shows had their own place to tape. like a restaursnt or store.
I thought Vanna and Pat were married when I saw the promo of Wheel during "The Wheel is gonna get you" campaign and seeing a kid coming home after baseball only to see Vanna and Pat greet him. I thought that was their son and their house! And the show originated from their house!
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When I was very young, I thought "lose a turn" on Wheel meant that the contestant would lose their next turn as well, and I thought I remembered that happening in the Windows version that Sony Imagesoft put out.
This is STILL how the Pressman instructions are written as well: "Lose A Turn: If a player spins Lose A Turn, he/she ends that turn and forfeits the next turn."
That must have been the source of my confusion; my grandma had the old Pressman Wheel and Jeopardy box games at her house.
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I also thought that Game shows had their own place to tape. like a restaursnt or store.
As a young'un in the 70s, I also thought that as well. Especially the game shows on NBC ‐‐ on several occasions one show host would mention another show "across the hall" or "next door".
As a kid, I envisioned the network studios as what we know as modern‐day 20-screen movie cineplexes, and each game show had their own studio/stage that they didnt have to share with other shows.
What a shock when I found out that there were only a handful of studios (though much larger than I thought) and shows would set up for a couple of days, tape a couple of weeks of shows, then tear down again to make room for another show.
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One false memory had to do with the airing of Press Your Luck when I was a lad, as I swore for years it was on at 12:30 (it wasn’t) and paired with the 1980s Let’s Make a Deal (it wasn’t at any point; when WCBS had both shows, LMAD was on at 9 and PYL at 10:30).
I also thought that Jeopardy moved to the morning on WABC in first run after Regis in 1987 (again, didn’t find this out until later that it was just a rebroadcast of the previous night’s show).
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Another false memory I had was Couch Potatoes being on before the NBC Daytime lineup on WESH in Orlando. I am sure it was probably on when it first premiered In 1989 but I think WESH did shuffle the lineup around.
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Another false memory I had was Couch Potatoes being on before the NBC Daytime lineup on WESH in Orlando. I am sure it was probably on when it first premiered In 1989 but I think WESH did shuffle the lineup around.
Did a little quick research for you on this. WESH slotted it at 11:30am at first (pre-empting "Win, Lose, or Draw") and then when daytime WoF was replaced by "Golden Girls" reruns, they moved the GG reruns to the 11:30 slot and demoted CP to an awesome 2:30am slot, at which point WLoD came back (at 11).
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There’s been very rare instances in my market where a daytime game show didn’t air in its prescribed time slot.
It wasn’t until much later that I found out Caesars Challenge was slated to air at 12:30, because I always caught it (which wasn’t often) at 10 in the morning. Which was odd because its predecessor was cleared as it was.
I also don’t remember how long this was a case but there was a period where Scrabble and Classic Concentration were both airing in the afternoon; I want to say it was during Scrabble’s last season. (At least Scrabble did; maybe the false memory is at work.)
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Another false memory I had was Couch Potatoes being on before the NBC Daytime lineup on WESH in Orlando. I am sure it was probably on when it first premiered In 1989 but I think WESH did shuffle the lineup around.
Did a little quick research for you on this. WESH slotted it at 11:30am at first (pre-empting "Win, Lose, or Draw") and then when daytime WoF was replaced by "Golden Girls" reruns, they moved the GG reruns to the 11:30 slot and demoted CP to an awesome 2:30am slot, at which point WLoD came back (at 11).
Thank you Aaron. And did you see the comment I mace about TTD actually having a kids week.
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I have two, both Price is Right related.
The first: I always thought TPIR aired at 3pm weekdays on the regular. So when it “moved” to 10am, I was quite surprised and disappointed (because of school). The truth was (as was explained in a thread I started about this very subject many moons ago) TPIR was moved to 3pm by WBBM 2 in Chicago to make room for Donahue’s talk show for a few months in 1986 or 1987. As I got older and went into the show’s history, I realized that it was always at 10am in this area, and that scheduling anomaly was simply that.
I also thought there was a TPIR nighttime Christmas Special that aired at some point in the late 1980s, as advertised in TV Guide. I recently found the ad; it was a half page ad from a 1988 issue which was actually for a Christmas contest for daytime (it included Janice Pennington holding a stack of presents with a picture of Bob in the inset).
The Inquisitive One
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I also have one that is TPIR related. I thougbt I remember seeing shorts of Baywatch during the commercial breaks after the two contestants bid in the showcase! But I know Baywatch premiered in 1989 when I was three years old on NBC.
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I also thought all games shows were taped live until I was told by my mom that TV shows were recorded earlier than on the air later.
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The tiles on Scrabble were dropped through a scanner and then into a trash can after being read. ;)
So, somewhat along those lines, I absolutely thought that the Scrabble tiles were somehow read by a computer when the contestants dropped them in the slot in the desk and that was how the letters would pop up on the screen. I remember wondering how they were read since they all appeared to be the same size, etc.
In today's world I realize that each tile number must have had a letter assigned to it prior to the game and that when the contestant would take the 8 and the 2, for example, the production staff would just CG the two letters that had been assigned to those numbers.
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So, somewhat along those lines, I absolutely thought that the Scrabble tiles were somehow read by a computer when the contestants dropped them in the slot in the desk and that was how the letters would pop up on the screen. I remember wondering how they were read since they all appeared to be the same size, etc.
Reminds me of another. When Millionaire first started, I thought the computer was voice activated rather than controlled by someone backstage.
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I also don’t remember how long this was a case but there was a period where Scrabble and Classic Concentration were both airing in the afternoon; I want to say it was during Scrabble’s last season. (At least Scrabble did; maybe the false memory is at work.)
Things started getting a little murky with WNBC in the early '90s and the daytime schedule....In spot-checking January 1990 - The "Golden Girls" and "227" block, usually at 11am, aired at 9. "House Party" at 10, "Win, Lose or Draw" at 11 and "Generations" at 11:30. "Santa Barbara" at noon. 1 and 2 were in-pattern, and 3 was "Classic Concentration" followed by "Scrabble" at 3:30.
EDIT: In diving down the rabbit hole even further, that was not the original schedule: when the news broke in November that this was happening (effective January 22), the plan was to have "Santa Barbara" at 11, "Generations" at noon, "Days of our Lives" at 12:30, "Another World" at 1:30, and then a 90-minute game show block starting with "Third Degree" at 2:30. I guess "Third Degree" tanking changed those plans.
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When MG transitioned from CBS to Syndie and the the Star Wheel "double" area changed from the one continuous space to three smaller spaces I thought the middle space was a "triple" - only when I started seeing re-reruns a little later on that I realized my error.
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Did any other station besides WNBC keep Sceabble on in reruns for six months after it went off the air in March 1991?
When WNBC made this programming change in January, I recall reading it had to get permission from the network to make such a drastic hange. Classic Concentration moved back to mornings in the fall when Scrabble reruns ended, and I don't believe WNBC ever followed the network official schedule again.
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I thought that USA's game shows also cane on on the weekends. I could have sworn that I saw a rerun of Hot Potato on Sunday afternoon followed by Pyramid. I remember wanting to watch Pyramid but I was at my grandmother's at the time and she had a "better idea" to take a nap. Boy was I upset!
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Wait, Scrabble reruns continued on WNBC? I sure as hell don’t remember that.
They still followed the network schedule on certain things; it aired the Scrabble/Scattergories hour at noon as per the schedule, and when Full House was picked up for reruns on NBC I know they carried it at 11 as per the schedule dictation.
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Wait, Scrabble reruns continued on WNBC? I sure as hell don’t remember that.
Yep! Just verified this with NY Daily News. Up until "Joan Rivers" moved from WCBS to WNBC and took the 3pm slot in September 1990.
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I am almost 100% sure that I saw an episode of Family Feud around '83-'84 where the families had played a triple round and their scores were tied at the end of the round, but neither had scored enough to win. Richard quickly signaled for another round and said that this would settle the tie. When the game board spun around, instead of another "TRIPLE" on each side of the board, it said "TIE". I don't know where the memory comes from (perhaps a dream?) but it seemed so real. Obviously, it makes no sense at all since they would just play another triple round.
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I used to think that 5 Price Tags and Safe Crackers were played behind Door #1 on TPiR.
I also thought that I'd seen a $otC player with a negative score once.
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I used to think that 5 Price Tags and Safe Crackers were played behind Door #1 on TPiR.
Same here, same here. As soon as I got online and found out that was not the case, I felt silly for not noticing the designs on the door(s).
-Jason
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I used to think that 5 Price Tags and Safe Crackers were played behind Door #1 on TPiR.
Same here, same here. As soon as I got online and found out that was not the case, I felt silly for not noticing the designs on the door(s).
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Well, this is hardly a false *memory*, but until I saw a taping in person I thought the host’s entrance was through Door 1. (I also didn’t realize until then that the home base/turntable unit was on a pivot and moved slightly stage right for the Showcase.)
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(I also didn’t realize until then that the home base/turntable unit was on a pivot and moved slightly stage right for the Showcase.)
That's news to me.
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Wait, Scrabble reruns continued on WNBC? I sure as hell don’t remember that.
Yep! Just verified this with NY Daily News. Up until "Joan Rivers" moved from WCBS to WNBC and took the 3pm slot in September 1990.
Okay then. I shall stand corrected and buy you a drink or a burger next time I see you. :)
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(I also didn’t realize until then that the home base/turntable unit was on a pivot and moved slightly stage right for the Showcase.)
That's news to me.
Same.
Speaking of TPiR's set and home base, until I was maybe a teen, I never processed that the Showcase round was done at home base, nor realized how many games or the Showcase Showdown happened at center stage. I remember a showcase from about 1994, where the models did a marching band routine in front of the lecterns, and I finally put 2+2 together.
I dunno how I also didn't process the multiple doors until my teenage years.
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One false memory I had was that the board on Press Your Luck moved from square-to-square in the exact board order (as in, squares 1, then 2, 3, etc.)
That would have made the game too easy. XD
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One false memory I had was seeing promos for Daytime Wheel's move to CBS, I thought they were of Pat and Vanna but they were of Bob and Vanna.
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That reminds me of a memory I had that I thought was a false memory until YouTube happened and I realized it actually happened -- the $1250 wedge on Goen Wheel. I thought 6-year-old me had made it up because clearly they never had a weird value like that on the wheel...right?
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Until recently, I would have testified under oath that the $otC Instant Bargains were staged behind the door leading to Bargainlandia/where Jim Perry enters. Only until I saw the blooper where they prematurely reset did I realize they had that on a turntable with the Fame Game board.
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Until recently, I would have testified under oath that the $otC Instant Bargains were staged behind the door leading to Bargainlandia/where Jim Perry enters. Only until I saw the blooper where they prematurely reset did I realize they had that on a turntable with the Fame Game board.
Same.
This has messed with me for a while. As a child, I remember watching $otC while home from school in summer 1988. I could’ve sworn that the Winner’s Board remained in place until then, but Wiki says December ‘87. So unless NBC showed summer reruns from late-87, I imagine my memory is fuzzy.
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Until recently, I would have testified under oath that the $otC Instant Bargains were staged behind the door leading to Bargainlandia/where Jim Perry enters. Only until I saw the blooper where they prematurely reset did I realize they had that on a turntable with the Fame Game board.
Same.
This has messed with me for a while. As a child, I remember watching $otC while home from school in summer 1988. I could’ve sworn that the Winner’s Board remained in place until then, but Wiki says December ‘87. So unless NBC showed summer reruns from late-87, I imagine my memory is fuzzy.
And the earliest full episode with the WBMG I've seen in the wild, contestants Marc/Betty/Al, ends with a 1987 copyright date in the credits.
https://imgur.com/HEmN13g
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The WBMG started just before Jay Stewart left the show (he’s still announcing when it’s introduced), and the round was still being announced as new when Don Morrow took over in early 88.
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This intro was the best part of the WBMG. It's bummer they dropped it fairly quickly.
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Thanks everyone. I take it the new theme song coincided with the WBMG switch?
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Thanks everyone. I take it the new theme song coincided with the WBMG switch?
It sure does appear that way.
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This intro was the best part of the WBMG. It's bummer they dropped it fairly quickly.
Everything is better with a drum machine track. At me.
/I remember watching the nighttime version and hearing Jim say "Say yes and the car is yours," then balloons and fanfare, thinking that was an odd way to have an ending. Apparently my memories of watching Treasure Hunt and Match Game in first run were visiting grandparents and seeing it on CBN because we sure as hell didn't have cable in 1986 as far as I remember.
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This intro was the best part of the WBMG. It's bummer they dropped it fairly quickly.
Everything is better with a drum machine track. At me.
/I remember watching the nighttime version and hearing Jim say "Say yes and the car is yours," then balloons and fanfare, thinking that was an odd way to have an ending. Apparently my memories of watching Treasure Hunt and Match Game in first run were visiting grandparents and seeing it on CBN because we sure as hell didn't have cable in 1986 as far as I remember.
Hold up...MG was on CBN at one point? (I knew about Card Sharks and Blockbusters)
As I really started remembering things and clearly accepting images and words and etc. by '82-'83, it's a crapshoot at first as to whether I was watching first-run syndie Match Game eps. or reruns. Don't remember the NYC market keeping a package of MG reruns like others did apparently, even during and after MG/HS?
I do remember my own grandparents and aunt watching Treasure Hunt too. They did have cable long before us, so it could have been CBN reruns. Didn't Barris have "best of" packages that ran in syndication?
For that matter, I agree about having no sense of the idea of reruns and wondering what was new and what wasn't. Even before cable, we still had the Card Sharks rerun package going into '83 or so, for instance.
Related "memory": I could have sworn I saw a Hollywood Squares episode with the original contestant/host area. In 1980-81.
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A showcase worth… You know how, on TPiR, when there's a bonus prize whose value is not subject to determining by the contestant, the announcer will append to the description, "A prize package worth, X dollars!" I thought I remembered, in the earliest TPiR days, of hearing Johnny Olson say "A showcase worth…" at least once. Of course, giving away the showcase price prior to bidding would obviously defeat the purpose!
The Numbers Game. The TPiR home game from 1973 had, for some strange reason, different names for the familiar pricing games than were used on TV. One example was the Any Number game, which they called "The Numbers Game". Yet I have a distinct memory of it being titled The Numbers Game at one point on the show.
Concentration, Bob Clayton era. As a little kid, I could have sworn I heard a contestant call out "umpteen" or "twen-teen". Also, when playing "The Envelope", there was a "ding-ding-ding-ding…" sounded when The Envelope was called on the board, or when the host was cued to pick a card out of the hopper/barrel (whatever that was for). One day, Bob Clayton was instructed to pick a card not by the bell, but by a direct verbal order over the director's intercom! You could hear it on TV, though not really clearly.
J! carrying answer card. In one episode of Art Fleming J!, in the middle of a game, a member of the production crew walked onto the set to tell the host something. Approaching from the left side of the board, he literally had in his hand, an answer card from the J! board.
Spiral stairway on $otC. I'd mentioned in at least one other post that Jack Kelly/Joe Garagiola SotC had the winner walk down a spiral staircase to the lower level of the set, where the prizes were. But according to some still photos someone posted a while ago, that was really just a slightly curved conventional stairway. (Has an episode from that era ever surfaced, BTW?) I must have gotten it conflated with the actual spiral stairs used on The Hollywood Squares, Marshall era, to access the uppermost tier only; never saw those in use, though once or twice they had someone standing on the stairs to model a fur coat prize.
Door Number 4 on LMaD. I wonder if this was an April Fools gag? I distinctly remember Monty telling the contestant that they won Door Number Four, possibly with a "Let's see what's behind Door No. 4" added in. But this was not the signature sliding door. It was actually a turntable, with a bluish, curved concealing wall on one side. I think this was used in late-60s/early-70s episodes for regular games, but here, they had slyly placed a numeral 4 on the outer wall. As for what was behind the door, well, if this half-century old memory is correct, the prize itself wasn't high-end, like a car or appliances, but rather an assortment of clothes. Yes, clothes. But neatly displayed on hangers in a boutique-like setting, with Jay describing each article. It didn't come across as a zonk, so perhaps they were designer labels.
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Spiral stairway on $otC. I'd mentioned in at least one other post that Jack Kelly/Joe Garagiola SotC had the winner walk down a spiral staircase to the lower level of the set, where the prizes were. But according to some still photos someone posted a while ago, that was really just a slightly curved conventional stairway. (Has an episode from that era ever surfaced, BTW?).
No video is publicly available yet, but recently someone was able to obtain two episodes from very early in the run from Archival Television Audio and posted them on YouTube.
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- Bob Goen was hosting WoF before Changing Keys was remixed
On a similar note, I thought the "Changing Keys" remix and contestant backdrops switched to the chevrons in January of 1989. I'm guessing that changed when the daytime version went to CBS, with the nighttime version switching over that fall.
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On a similar note, I thought the "Changing Keys" remix and contestant backdrops switched to the chevrons in January of 1989. I'm guessing that changed when the daytime version went to CBS, with the nighttime version switching over that fall.
That's exactly when it changed. I remember instantly not being a fan of the new remix upon hearing it with the CBS daytime debut. I was hoping that maybe it wouldn't carry over to the nighttime version in the fall, which of course, it did.
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The Numbers Game. The TPiR home game from 1973 had, for some strange reason, different names for the familiar pricing games than were used on TV. One example was the Any Number game, which they called "The Numbers Game". Yet I have a distinct memory of it being titled The Numbers Game at one point on the show.
Pretty sure it was never labeled that way on the show, but it *was* on the home game.
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I do remember my own grandparents and aunt watching Treasure Hunt too. They did have cable long before us, so it could have been CBN reruns. Didn't Barris have "best of" packages that ran in syndication?
It was in syndicated repeats in early 1984; a few episodes circulate from those. That may very well be what you saw.
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The Numbers Game. The TPiR home game from 1973 had, for some strange reason, different names for the familiar pricing games than were used on TV. One example was the Any Number game, which they called "The Numbers Game". Yet I have a distinct memory of it being titled The Numbers Game at one point on the show.
Door Number 4 on LMaD. I wonder if this was an April Fools gag? I distinctly remember Monty telling the contestant that they won Door Number Four, possibly with a "Let's see what's behind Door No. 4" added in. But this was not the signature sliding door. It was actually a turntable, with a bluish, curved concealing wall on one side. I think this was used in late-60s/early-70s episodes for regular games, but here, they had slyly placed a numeral 4 on the outer wall. As for what was behind the door, well, if this half-century old memory is correct, the prize itself wasn't high-end, like a car or appliances, but rather an assortment of clothes. Yes, clothes. But neatly displayed on hangers in a boutique-like setting, with Jay describing each article. It didn't come across as a zonk, so perhaps they were designer labels.
Dennis James called Any Number "Any Number Wins" in at least one of the earliest episodes. He also called Most Expensive "All or Nothing at All" a few times. I do remember one half-hour episode when, after the second pricing game, Bob told the viewers that the showcases would be next, only to correct himself and say that "Most Expensive" was next, so that title was in use early on.
Also, "Door #4" was used at least one year in the 1970s syndicated version of LMAD; a random studio audience member was chosen (either by seat number or some sort of ticket number), and I think that behind the door was a giant wheel with money amounts and, usually, a car.
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Also, "Door #4" was used at least one year in the 1970s syndicated version of LMAD; a random studio audience member was chosen (either by seat number or some sort of ticket number), and I think that behind the door was a giant wheel with money amounts and, usually, a car.
Sounds almost verbatim like what they did for the 1984-1986 run. Did this wheel also have Zonk spaces?
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I do remember one half-hour episode when, after the second pricing game, Bob told the viewers that the showcases would be next, only to correct himself and say that "Most Expensive" was next, so that title was in use early on.
Somewhere on G-R, we've got pictures of paperwork from the first episode, and the first game is plainly labeled as "Any Number." The names weren't used on the air in the early days, but they always existed.
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The Numbers Game. The TPiR home game from 1973 had, for some strange reason, different names for the familiar pricing games than were used on TV. One example was the Any Number game, which they called "The Numbers Game". Yet I have a distinct memory of it being titled The Numbers Game at one point on the show.
Pretty sure it was never labeled that way on the show, but it *was* on the home game.
So when did those early turntable games finally get names on their boards? I know Any Number and Clock Game had generic facings when they premiered (and Clock Game went many years before they put the CG name on the board IIRC).
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So when did those early turntable games finally get names on their boards? I know Any Number and Clock Game had generic facings when they premiered (and Clock Game went many years before they put the CG name on the board IIRC).
May 28, 1974 for Any Number.
The G-R FAQ didn't have a date for Clock Game, but 10 minutes of YT research pins it somewhere between Thanksgiving 1974 and July 1975.
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So when did those early turntable games finally get names on their boards? I know Any Number and Clock Game had generic facings when they premiered (and Clock Game went many years before they put the CG name on the board IIRC).
May 28, 1974 for Any Number.
The G-R FAQ didn't have a date for Clock Game, but 10 minutes of YT research pins it somewhere between Thanksgiving 1974 and July 1975.
Not sure what part of the FAQ you checked, but the Timeline page has it narrowed to between May 23 (1423D) and July 4, 1975 (1485D).
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I checked The Pricing Games page. I figured that if Any Number had its date there, that any info we had on Clock Game would be there as well.
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God, I really need to go through the pricing games section one of these days and update it to be in line with the timeline.
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That posting of the "Concentration Pilot #8" reminded me of another false memory I had:
On Classic Concentration, at first, if you won the bonus round, you won the car that appeared only once on the board, rather than the last one you matched.
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God, I really need to go through the pricing games section one of these days and update it to be in line with the timeline.
Do you or anyone know why they designed the board with space for a name from the start but didn't put the names on? It's most noticeable on Any Number.
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Another false memory I had is that in Monty's Split Second, people very rarely took the consolation prize if they failed to win the car in the bonus round. I'm not sure how prevalent it was, but I've been watching a fair number of episodes recently on the YouTube and it seems like this was much more common than I had thought.
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Do you or anyone know why they designed the board with space for a name from the start but didn't put the names on? It's most noticeable on Any Number.
Can't say that I do. It certainly does stand out like a sore thumb, although I wonder whether it's more noticeable in hindsight.
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For some reason I thought Bill Cullen hosted WordPlay (in fact when I vaguely remembered the show, I went online asking about the show with Cullen and the "blocks". You can guess what most people thought of.)
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For the longest time, I was thinking that Wheel of Fortune showed eps. from the 1992-93 season in their summer 1995 weekend airings (which would usually be from the previous season), but I recently found these two early 1998 GSN airings that look to be from the summer 1995 weekend prints right here:
http://archive.org/details/wheel-of-fortune-february-3-1993
http://archive.org/details/wheel-of-fortune-february-5-1993
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In situations such as Temptation on TPiR or a grocery deal on LMaD, I thought people went for the car 100% of the time and always rejected the sure thing.
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A couple of falsities for me:
Until seeing the reruns on GSN, I always thought Johnny's podium was white and had TPIR logo on it.
I always thought Jim Perry, Art James and Geoff Edwards were Canadian due to their shows being taped up here. It wasn't until later that I found out they hosted other shows.
For Canadians, I thought that "The New Liar's Club" and "The Next Line" were the same show, only that they updated the set for the later seasons and added a piano for Pete Barbutti.
A false memory-ish, but when Barker hosted TPIR, the shooting style made the studio look huge. The newer style shows how much smaller it really is. Post-Barker TPIR killed a lot of childhood memories for me.
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I had thought furs were still being offered on Barker's TPIR through at least the late 80's. Buzzr's TPIR Channel proved that theory wrong.
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I had thought furs were still being offered on Barker's TPIR through at least the late 80's. Buzzr's TPIR Channel proved that theory wrong.
Interesting, I thought I’d read that around 1987 was when they stopped offering furs. Maybe that was when Barker stopped hosting the pageants over the issue.
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Maybe that was when Barker stopped hosting the pageants over the issue.
This is correct; 1987 was his last year for the pageants.
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A false memory-ish, but when Barker hosted TPIR, the shooting style made the studio look huge. The newer style shows how much smaller it really is. Post-Barker TPIR killed a lot of childhood memories for me.
Yeah, the first time I saw a Hollywood TV taping in person (a little over 10 years ago), it was pretty eye opening, how they make it look like they’re taping in good-sized auditorium, but in reality there are maybe 200 or so in the audience tops.
I know that’s probably no big deal for those who grew up or work in LA or NYC. But for this Midwestern boy, it was a bit of a culture shock.
Apparently my memories of watching Treasure Hunt and Match Game in first run were visiting grandparents and seeing it on CBN because we sure as hell didn't have cable in 1986 as far as I remember.
Hold up...MG was on CBN at one point? (I knew about Card Sharks and Blockbusters)
Since this thread keeps getting gravedug, I meant to come back to this earlier & never did...
On the small-town cable system I grew up with in the 80s, the only actual cable channel we had for a long time was CBN. (They eventually added TBS too—but we got locals from 3 different cities.) So we watched a lot of CBN. And for the life of me, I can’t remember them ever running MG. Of course, I was a young kid in a conservative home & probably wouldn’t have been allowed to watch it; but I think I’d have remembered seeing promos for it. So if CBN ever did run MG, it was in the late 70s or very early 80s, before I’d have any recollection.
Another thing is that CBN/Family Channel was owned by Pat Robertson’s organization, so they might have felt MG was too racy for CBN. Granted, Card Sharks had its share of racy material too. But it flew a little more under the radar, while MG was more out front about it.
A while back, the topic came up here of the Game Net channel that FAM had planned to launch around the same time GSN launched. (It was one of our rabbit trails rather than its own topic, if anyone feels compelled to find it.) Adam Nedeff said his understanding was that the entire deal hinged on the G-T rights, and that when Sony grabbed them, the Game Net launch was off. Since that conversation, I’ve wondered, if Robertson’s org had secured the G-T rights, how would they have handled MG? Would they have downplayed it? Played it at all? Or would they have still pushed it as the (at least #2) definitive game show, the way Sony & Fremantle have portrayed it the last 25 years?
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After watching the 4th of July episode from the original High Rollers w/ Trebek & Lee, I realized that getting insurance markers for doubles did not apply for BOTH the main match and the Big Numbers...unless they changed that rule later on in the original run.
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Apparently my memories of watching Treasure Hunt and Match Game in first run were visiting grandparents and seeing it on CBN because we sure as hell didn't have cable in 1986 as far as I remember.
Hold up...MG was on CBN at one point? (I knew about Card Sharks and Blockbusters)
Since this thread keeps getting gravedug, I meant to come back to this earlier & never did...
On the small-town cable system I grew up with in the 80s, the only actual cable channel we had for a long time was CBN. (They eventually added TBS too—but we got locals from 3 different cities.) So we watched a lot of CBN. And for the life of me, I can’t remember them ever running MG. Of course, I was a young kid in a conservative home & probably wouldn’t have been allowed to watch it; but I think I’d have remembered seeing promos for it. So if CBN ever did run MG, it was in the late 70s or very early 80s, before I’d have any recollection.
Another thing is that CBN/Family Channel was owned by Pat Robertson’s organization, so they might have felt MG was too racy for CBN. Granted, Card Sharks had its share of racy material too. But it flew a little more under the radar, while MG was more out front about it.
A while back, the topic came up here of the Game Net channel that FAM had planned to launch around the same time GSN launched. (It was one of our rabbit trails rather than its own topic, if anyone feels compelled to find it.) Adam Nedeff said his understanding was that the entire deal hinged on the G-T rights, and that when Sony grabbed them, the Game Net launch was off. Since that conversation, I’ve wondered, if Robertson’s org had secured the G-T rights, how would they have handled MG? Would they have downplayed it? Played it at all? Or would they have still pushed it as the (at least #2) definitive game show, the way Sony & Fremantle have portrayed it the last 25 years?
Match Game was never on CBN, but a handful of local stations around the country did show reruns of the 1979-82 syndicated run during the 1985-86 season, so that may be what the memory is of.
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Apparently my memories of watching Treasure Hunt and Match Game in first run were visiting grandparents and seeing it on CBN because we sure as hell didn't have cable in 1986 as far as I remember.
Hold up...MG was on CBN at one point? (I knew about Card Sharks and Blockbusters)
Since this thread keeps getting gravedug, I meant to come back to this earlier & never did...
On the small-town cable system I grew up with in the 80s, the only actual cable channel we had for a long time was CBN. (They eventually added TBS too—but we got locals from 3 different cities.) So we watched a lot of CBN. And for the life of me, I can’t remember them ever running MG. Of course, I was a young kid in a conservative home & probably wouldn’t have been allowed to watch it; but I think I’d have remembered seeing promos for it. So if CBN ever did run MG, it was in the late 70s or very early 80s, before I’d have any recollection.
Another thing is that CBN/Family Channel was owned by Pat Robertson’s organization, so they might have felt MG was too racy for CBN. Granted, Card Sharks had its share of racy material too. But it flew a little more under the radar, while MG was more out front about it.
A while back, the topic came up here of the Game Net channel that FAM had planned to launch around the same time GSN launched. (It was one of our rabbit trails rather than its own topic, if anyone feels compelled to find it.) Adam Nedeff said his understanding was that the entire deal hinged on the G-T rights, and that when Sony grabbed them, the Game Net launch was off. Since that conversation, I’ve wondered, if Robertson’s org had secured the G-T rights, how would they have handled MG? Would they have downplayed it? Played it at all? Or would they have still pushed it as the (at least #2) definitive game show, the way Sony & Fremantle have portrayed it the last 25 years?
Match Game was never on CBN, but a handful of local stations around the country did show reruns of the 1979-82 syndicated run during the 1985-86 season, so that may be what the memory is of.
And that just got something for me... wasn't the reason for them offering the 1979-82 shows again in 1985-86, because they'd tried to get a new version going (to pair up with Kennedy TPIR), but couldn't get enough stations to sign up?
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Chris P. just reminded me how for years, I thought Wheel and Caesar’s Challenge contestants won their prizes and the equivalent in cash. In other words, if you won $4,000 and bought $3,850 in prizes, I thought you went home with $7,850.
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And that just got something for me... wasn't the reason for them offering the 1979-82 shows again in 1985-86, because they'd tried to get a new version going (to pair up with Kennedy TPIR), but couldn't get enough stations to sign up?
No, 1987 was when they tried to mount a new version of Match Game hosted by Gene Rayburn, which they tried to pair with a second season of Card Sharks with Bill Rafferty. Neither ended up getting picked up.
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Chris P. just reminded me how for years, I thought Wheel and Caesar’s Challenge contestants won their prizes and the equivalent in cash. In other words, if you won $4,000 and bought $3,850 in prizes, I thought you went home with $7,850.
I actually didn’t know until much later about that rule; I think it was when I first discovered Tim Connolly’s review of it that I found out, only later seeing it in action after YouTube started up.
I was only 10 back then, so I suppose I can be forgiven a little. :)
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And that just got something for me... wasn't the reason for them offering the 1979-82 shows again in 1985-86, because they'd tried to get a new version going (to pair up with Kennedy TPIR), but couldn't get enough stations to sign up?
No, 1987 was when they tried to mount a new version of Match Game hosted by Gene Rayburn, which they tried to pair with a second season of Card Sharks with Bill Rafferty. Neither ended up getting picked up.
Entertainment Tonight wishing Gene a happy 69th birthday didn't help.
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Forgive me overlords for gravedigging, but seeing Trivia Trap reminded me of another one...
Believing that the trap graphic in the actual game was animated, not unlike the one in the opening.
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Believing that the trap graphic in the actual game was animated, not unlike the one in the opening.
Heck, I wondered that until now. Maybe imagining it moving is a psychological trick.
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The "Ca$hword" graphic repeated itself across the screen multiple times vertically in different colors like the "Password" part of the opening animation.
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Wait. Did it? The only Ca$word graphic I remember is the big green one that would "flip" onto the screen, then disappear the opposite direction.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-ERIDwIiYA&start=7
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Wait. Did it? The only Ca$word graphic I remember is the big green one that would "flip" onto the screen, then disappear the opposite direction.
Note the title of the thread. :)
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Wait. Did it? The only Ca$word graphic I remember is the big green one that would "flip" onto the screen, then disappear the opposite direction.
Note the title of the thread. :)
Gotcha. I think I misread Unrealtor's comment as well. Carry on. :)
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Not a false memory as much as me being a stupid kid. My grandma got GSN as soon as it came out. I was 8. I remember watching the shows, not understanding the concept of reruns, and thought all the episodes were new... I would get so confused when Bob’s hair would be darker on TPIR.
Dude! I would also get that same kind of confused seeing the old 20th Century Fox TV logo on $100k Pyramid reruns on USA! As well as seeing the Viacom Silver V on Split Second reruns on FAM!
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I forgot that I thought this until recently: when I was young, I thought the Hot Seat rose out of the floor on Millionaire, since it wasn't on stage during the Fastest Finger.
I was also under the impression that not only was the show live, but the intro was as well since the shot of the Times Square sign (http://youtube.com/watch?v=0zLIcI5hqwU&t=10s) had the day of the week on it. In my six-year-old headcanon there were crowds of people outside à la GMA watching like it was a space shuttle launch or something. :)
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I forgot that I thought this until recently: when I was young, I thought the Hot Seat rose out of the floor on Millionaire, since it wasn't on stage during the Fastest Finger.
I thought that too. I also thought the computer was truly voice activated.
In my six-year-old headcanon there were crowds of people outside watching like it was a space shuttle launch or something. :)
If it wasn't for the six-year-old part, I'd say you were remembering the British intro.
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If it wasn't for the six-year-old part, I'd say you were remembering the British intro.
Edited to clarify, I could see why you would think of that.
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I forgot that I thought this until recently: when I was young, I thought the Hot Seat rose out of the floor on Millionaire, since it wasn't on stage during the Fastest Finger.
I get this, and honestly, that would have made a lot of people happy. We were there for an early taping during the first summer run, and taking the Hot Seat apparatus off the stage for the Fastest Finger and putting it back on afterward took about twenty minutes each time--and this was for a half-hour episode. It was pretty obvious Regis was not enjoying the delays.
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I forgot that I thought this until recently: when I was young, I thought the Hot Seat rose out of the floor on Millionaire, since it wasn't on stage during the Fastest Finger.
I get this, and honestly, that would have made a lot of people happy. We were there for an early taping during the first summer run, and taking the Hot Seat apparatus off the stage for the Fastest Finger and putting it back on afterward took about twenty minutes each time--and this was for a half-hour episode. It was pretty obvious Regis was not enjoying the delays.
At what point did we stop doing that? January run? Did the UK stop doing it around the same time?
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I've got one that isn't related to watching a game show but rather being part of it.
I was picked as a contestant on Price during an August 2015 taping. In my mind I calmly stood up, walked down to contestant's row, and went from there.
When I saw the show air four months later... not so much! I don't think I've ran that fast in my life frankly.
Anyone else have an "in game experience" that they remembered differently from tape to air?
Ryan.
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I've got one that isn't related to watching a game show but rather being part of it.
I was picked as a contestant on Price during an August 2015 taping. In my mind I calmly stood up, walked down to contestant's row, and went from there.
When I saw the show air four months later... not so much! I don't think I've ran that fast in my life frankly.
Anyone else have an "in game experience" that they remembered differently from tape to air?
Ryan.
I remember my arm flab wasn’t as jiggly as they made it seem to be. 🙂
I don’t know if this was what you meant, but when I first got to watch it back I could still remember clearly almost everything that happened including stuff that they left on the cutting room floor.
Quite certain I’m not the only one to be able to say that.
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I've got one that isn't related to watching a game show but rather being part of it.
I was picked as a contestant on Price during an August 2015 taping. In my mind I calmly stood up, walked down to contestant's row, and went from there.
When I saw the show air four months later... not so much! I don't think I've ran that fast in my life frankly.
Anyone else have an "in game experience" that they remembered differently from tape to air?
Ryan.
On wheel, I couldn't spell "jewelry" back then. Can't spell it now (had it not been for autocorrect).
That, and to go through 15-20 minutes for a $9,000 payoff really flew by.
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Here's one, forgot if I mentioned it...
Remembering seeing the original High Rollers format.
It is possible I took what I saw of HR (end of the 1978 run; I started remember things by 1980) and combined it with seeing the original Battlestars later, and believing I saw the Face Lifters bonus round. If that makes sense. Hey, Trebek was on both.
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I forgot that I thought this until recently: when I was young, I thought the Hot Seat rose out of the floor on Millionaire, since it wasn't on stage during the Fastest Finger.
I get this, and honestly, that would have made a lot of people happy. We were there for an early taping during the first summer run, and taking the Hot Seat apparatus off the stage for the Fastest Finger and putting it back on afterward took about twenty minutes each time--and this was for a half-hour episode. It was pretty obvious Regis was not enjoying the delays.
I was a contestant during the first series in August 2000. It took about 90 mutes to tape a 30 minute episode. Regis was clearly anxious. We were told he would stick around, sign autographs, and chat for a little while after the show but he got out of there seconds after saying goodnight.
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I hopped as you know. It took thirty minutes to complete my edited intro to tom asking me about myself. The headphones malfunctioned when I was offstage and because someone shouted the show was running long I nearly tripped when I ran out for my board
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To go back to false memories one had as a viewer, inspired by a thread over on Golden-Road: I would have sworn that Freeze Frame debuted as an electrically operated game without the panel behind the legs to conceal the stagehand (just before the edict that everything be operated manually), but YouTube confirms that it was there from the start.
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ISTR, when watching the July 4th episode of Trebek's first High Rollers incarnation, that doubles did not give you insurance markers in the main match...only in the Bonus Round.
I had thought that insurance markers were always available for any good doubles in both the matches and in the bonus game.
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When I was very young, I thought "lose a turn" on Wheel meant that the contestant would lose their next turn as well.
I thought the same thing. Also on TPIR, I figured the Squeeze Play and Range Game boards moved by someone pushing a button. Turns out they're manually operated.
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When I was very young, I thought "lose a turn" on Wheel meant that the contestant would lose their next turn as well.
I thought the same thing. Also on TPIR, I figured the Squeeze Play and Range Game boards moved by someone pushing a button. Turns out they're manually operated.
Can't speak to Squeeze Play, but at one time I'm pretty sure Range Game was operated by a motor... which would explain it jamming up multiple times, as we've seen in the 1982-1983 stuff on the Barker Era channel. And I'd assume these issues are why they eventually changed it to a stagehand turning a crank.
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Can't speak to Squeeze Play, but at one time I'm pretty sure Range Game was operated by a motor
It's true of Squeeze Play, too. Look at the board the next time it pops up on Pluto -- there's a big gap in the base that you'd be able to see the operator through if there were one there.
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Not sure I'd call this false as I distinctly remember it happening, but one of those wrestling specials on Combs FF...it had to be one of the WWF vs. WBF (remember THAT?) episodes. The question was, "Name a kind of wrestling." In revealing the rest of the answers at the end of the round, Ray wonders out loud if "fake wrestling" is one of the answers.
(Perhaps this fits more with "lost" GS moments, as I have yet to see it again online. The 1994-95 episode where Richard reads a letter saying they don't like him nor the "other guy" is like this too)
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1. I could have sworn I saw a USA repeat of Bullseye where the plunger on Bonus Island was broken and it stayed that way during the whole episode. Also, you could see the shadow of the plunger on the left side as you're looking at the board.
2. I saw some newsmagazine episode about an 80s Name That Tune $100K winner who won the lot with the balloons and confetti, by a score of ## to 4. Something happened. I then wrote to USA if they could rerun NTT. Obviously I got a reason why they won't/can't.
3. Was there really nothing on the set of that Mario/Melvin van Peebles BET game show in the 1990s?
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2. I saw some newsmagazine episode about an 80s Name That Tune $100K winner who won the lot with the balloons and confetti, by a score of ## to 4. Something happened. I then wrote to USA if they could rerun NTT. Obviously I got a reason why they won't/can't.
16-4? That happened
(https://i.imgur.com/1FN3DeK.png)
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And if the blur on the right is who I think it is, then it's quite satisfying to see him get curbstomped to that extent.
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Okay I’ll bite. What’s your beef? I think his name was Hap but he seemed harmless.
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Okay I’ll bite. What’s your beef? I think his name was Hap but he seemed harmless.
The dude bent the rules about as far as you could bend them (passing, then rescinding the passes and guessing) during the Golden Medley that he won. It was rather off putting for some including me. YMMV.
Another false.memory of mine: a 90 second Sale of the Century speed round.
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The dude bent the rules about as far as you could bend them (passing, then rescinding the passes and guessing) during the Golden Medley that he won. It was rather off putting for some including me. YMMV.
Was this the same guy who would prattle off about half the song hoping the title would be in there? (I bet there were a handful of people who did that.)
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Okay I’ll bite. What’s your beef? I think his name was Hap but he seemed harmless.
He was. Bryce confused him with Les Gould who would incur a 15 yard penalty for excessive celebration after every right answer.
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Another false memory of mine: a 90 second Sale of the Century speed round.
For years, the Wikipedia article said it was originally 90 seconds, I even asked on here if it had ever been that long and people debunked it.
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16-4? That happened
(https://i.imgur.com/1FN3DeK.png)
Okay. Good. Love that Eggcrate 4 in this pic. The newsmagazine, I think was A Current Affair, or Nightline, or some other show I saw at night had a story about one of those two. That I cannot recall.
Fixed a broken quote box. -knagl
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Another false memory of mine: a 90 second Sale of the Century speed round.
For years, the Wikipedia article said it was originally 90 seconds, I even asked on here if it had ever been that long and people debunked it.
I’m probably the one who put that bit of info in there then.
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The dude bent the rules about as far as you could bend them (passing, then rescinding the passes and guessing) during the Golden Medley that he won. It was rather off putting for some including me. YMMV.
Was this the same guy who would prattle off about half the song hoping the title would be in there? (I bet there were a handful of people who did that.)
But not to that kinda degree. Hap was a…unique case, let’s say. :)
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In Hap's case, while it was mildly irritating, he bent the rules because they allowed him to bend the rules. I really don't think he was trying to get away with anything, but Jim Lange kept giving him that opening.
Oddly, Jim would say that they were more lenient in the Golden Medley since it was against the house. Fine, if we are talking about minor words like "of" or "to", but giving extra time for a contestant to formulate an answer is not "against the house" but against the other players in the tournament and to those who missed the tournament. It's inconsistent, and not the contestant's fault. Not surprisingly, Sandy Frank is more strict when it involves a cash round, but not when a contestant adds a fabulous sponsored prize.
I don't think he took advantage of the talk-as-long-as-you-say-the-lyrics rule. It did get to some ridiculous levels for other contestants sometimes, but it is far better than the 2020s rules that eliminate you for saying one more word than the exact title. Or worse, if you don't say pass, you don't get prodded by the host to do so, you get the wet fart buzzer.
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A post in another thread reminded me of something that I have been told is a false memory, but I am fairly certain that my memory is correct here.
On NBC's All-American Ultra Quiz, a number of people have said that one of the rounds was in Paris, but I definitely remember the question rounds being:
Dodger Stadium
LAX
a flight from Los Angeles to Little Rock, where all but 12 of the contestants got off
Washington, DC (12 contestants)
London (8)
Rome (6)
Athens (4)
Los Angeles (2)
It's possible that people remember Paris because the prize for the winners in London might have been to have dinner in Paris en route to Rome. I definitely remember that the four winners in Rome ate at a fancy restaurant with Dan & Dick, while the two losers had to eat in the bowels of the Colosseum.
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I distinctly recall a round in Ultra Quiz in which the losers had their luggage guillotined, which would imply France.
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Contemporary newspaper accounts of the American "Ultra Quiz" are pretty clear that Paris is one of the stops.
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Watching the J! Pluto Channel, I thought the grid set and bongo theme remix came along simultaneously at the start of S8. Jeremy informed me that the bongo theme was actually S9.
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This week's episode of the podcast Underunderstood (a companion to the podcast Overunderstood) is mostly about Terry Kneiss' perfect bid on TPiR, but they also talk of the many folks who thought that there was another perfect bid in 72 or 73. Drew mentioned it at the end of that episode and some people swear it was on Dennis James' version and that the display showed 0000 on it to reflect the perfect bid. They are still working the story to clarify a few things about the timeline of the Perfect Bid and say they're speaking to Ted Slauson this week. I look forward to their follow-up.
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There was definitely no perfect bid on the nighttime show. If one happened, it was in daytime during one of the first two seasons, before the double showcase rule was introduced.
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There was definitely no perfect bid on the nighttime show. If one happened, it was in daytime during one of the first two seasons, before the double showcase rule was introduced.
IIRC, on one nighttime show, both contestants missed their showcase by the same amount. Dennis explained that they both win. I also recall a contestant missing a showcase by only five dollars. This was when Barker had taken over as the nighttime host. The double showcase rule did not apply on that version.
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There was definitely no perfect bid on the nighttime show. If one happened, it was in daytime during one of the first two seasons, before the double showcase rule was introduced.
I saw the first perfect bid on the daytime version; it was $2200 - and it was before the Double Showcase rule.
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On a semi-related note, there is an episode currently in rotation on the Pluto channel, I believe from S12, where the ARP of one of the Showcases was exactly $8000. It's hard to believe that the production staff weren't intentionally trying to set up a perfect bid with that...(Sadly, the contestant bid $8200.)
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On a semi-related note, there is an episode currently in rotation on the Pluto channel, I believe from S12, where the ARP of one of the Showcases was exactly $8000. It's hard to believe that the production staff weren't intentionally trying to set up a perfect bid with that...(Sadly, the contestant bid $8200.)
I can believe it, especially because one of the prizes was a trip, so the show was at the mercy of whatever airfare happened to be at that time.
Assuming showcase prizes are always selected without regard to how their total will end, the odds say that the total will end in ,000 approximately every 1,000 showcases. Which is about every 500 episodes, or roughly once every three years.
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Drew Carey's closest non-zero difference was $6 a few years ago when someone bid $23,450 on a $23,456 showcase. Another one that seems like it's begging for a perfect bid, especially since the contestant nearly delivered.
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On January 22nd, 1973, both Showcases ended in -00. The winner was $100 off (still over a year before she would've painfully missed winning both).
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Here's something I think I remembered seeing...
A Gong Show act that used "Midnight Confessions" by the Grass Roots. I would have seen this on a USA rerun.
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On NBC's All-American Ultra Quiz, a number of people have said that one of the rounds was in Paris, but I definitely remember the question rounds being:
It's possible that people remember Paris because the prize for the winners in London might have been to have dinner in Paris en route to Rome. I definitely remember that the four winners in Rome ate at a fancy restaurant with Dan & Dick, while the two losers had to eat in the bowels of the Colosseum.
This remains my holy grail, as a huge Rowan/Martin fan....is this in existence anywhere? any clips? anything? I think one of the game show compilation shows from years ago showed a brief clip but that was it.
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The most I’ve ever seen is this brief promo from 1981.
https://youtu.be/adKh5XkOuQw
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The most I’ve ever seen is this brief promo from 1981.
https://youtu.be/adKh5XkOuQw
Sadly all clips from Japan, no? And no Rowan/Martin. :(
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On a semi-related note, there is an episode currently in rotation on the Pluto channel, I believe from S12, where the ARP of one of the Showcases was exactly $8000. It's hard to believe that the production staff weren't intentionally trying to set up a perfect bid with that...(Sadly, the contestant bid $8200.)
I can believe it, especially because one of the prizes was a trip, so the show was at the mercy of whatever airfare happened to be at that time.
Assuming showcase prizes are always selected without regard to how their total will end, the odds say that the total will end in ,000 approximately every 1,000 showcases. Which is about every 500 episodes, or roughly once every three years.
Of course, they're not, and they haven't been pretty much since the perfect bid incident, if ever. I think it's been over a decade since they stopped ending *any* showcases between -000 and -250, to cut down on Double Showcase wins.
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I think it's been over a decade since they stopped ending *any* showcases between -000 and -250, to cut down on Double Showcase wins.
(citation needed) :) :) Really? I'd never heard this before, not that I paid overly much attention to it, so it wouldn't surprise me. Or perhaps it's just a piece of The Knowledge that I somehow never acquired.
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I think it's been over a decade since they stopped ending *any* showcases between -000 and -250, to cut down on Double Showcase wins.
(citation needed) :) :) Really? I'd never heard this before, not that I paid overly much attention to it, so it wouldn't surprise me. Or perhaps it's just a piece of The Knowledge that I somehow never acquired.
It's definitely been a thing for a long time now. And there seems to have been several other "unwritten rules" that have been implemented in the last few years. I think the one that annoys me the most is that flipping and flopping in Flip Flop hasn't been the correct choice since season 46. My understanding is that a) contestants rarely take that option and b) by the very nature of the game the "flop" and "flip flop" choices are never going to be more than $81 apart from each other, so maybe it's intended to increase the win rate, but I feel like if they're dead set on having it never be right anymore they may as well just remove the option to do that entirely.
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The most I’ve ever seen is this brief promo from 1981.
https://youtu.be/adKh5XkOuQw
Sadly all clips from Japan, no? And no Rowan/Martin. :(
Those looked like the NBC version to me. What was the main difference between the two, other than the final round in the Japanese version was a buzz-in round at the Empire State Building, whereas the NBC version was alternating multiple-choice questions somewhere in/near Los Angeles?
I did notice contestant "Mark" apperared to have patches for London, Paris, Rome, and Athens, so maybe there was a Paris round after all.
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Watching old episodes of "Super Millionaire" today, I'm reminded of another false memory. I could have sworn that at some point in the run, Regis instructed the computer to "Activate the Double Dip." Must have been a fever dream or something.
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The most I’ve ever seen is this brief promo from 1981.
https://youtu.be/adKh5XkOuQw
Sadly all clips from Japan, no? And no Rowan/Martin. :(
I did notice contestant "Mark" apperared to have patches for London, Paris, Rome, and Athens, so maybe there was a Paris round after all.
At around the :16 point, you see a guy wearing an off-white trenchcoat, and dark-colored hat, and I'm certain that IS Dan Rowan! When the contestant moves away, Dick Martin is seen wearing a similar coat and hat, but has his back toward the camera!
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The most I’ve ever seen is this brief promo from 1981.
https://youtu.be/adKh5XkOuQw
Sadly all clips from Japan, no? And no Rowan/Martin. :(
I did notice contestant "Mark" apperared to have patches for London, Paris, Rome, and Athens, so maybe there was a Paris round after all.
At around the :16 point, you see a guy wearing an off-white trenchcoat, and dark-colored hat, and I'm certain that IS Dan Rowan! When the contestant moves away, Dick Martin is seen wearing a similar coat and hat, but has his back toward the camera!
Not sure about Martin, but that's definitely Rowan.
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Didn't realize this has been dormant this long, but I suppose this thread is one of those bumpable exceptions.
I could swear that the smallest amount on the Money Game board was referred to by Bob as "el cheapo."
Only after seeing it on the Barker channel I now realize he was saying "ol' cheapo."
Even though my hearing has gotten worse over 40 years, at least my technology has compensated for it.
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I could swear that the smallest amount on the Money Game board was referred to by Bob as "el cheapo."
Only after seeing it on the Barker channel I now realize he was saying "ol' cheapo."
He's said "Ol' Cheapo" a few times, but he's definitely said "El Cheapo" far more often.
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I could swear that the smallest amount on the Money Game board was referred to by Bob as "el cheapo."
Only after seeing it on the Barker channel I now realize he was saying "ol' cheapo."
He's said "Ol' Cheapo" a few times, but he's definitely said "El Cheapo" far more often.
OK, not going completely nuts. I did watch for this (sporadically) over the past couple of months before posting to see if he used both, and it just happened that the ones I caught were "ol' cheapo."
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He's said "Ol' Cheapo" a few times, but he's definitely said "El Cheapo" far more often.
Chelsea and I were discussing this a while back...I can't remember which show it was, but I think she found the day that he switches it to "El Cheapo."
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During the '94-'95 season, Wheel of Fortune used an image campaign led by Aretha Franklin:
https://youtu.be/8J9TJu-ymfo
For years, I had convinced myself that everytime somebody won $25,000 in the bonus round, this would play instead of "Changing Keys".
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He's said "Ol' Cheapo" a few times, but he's definitely said "El Cheapo" far more often.
Chelsea and I were discussing this a while back...I can't remember which show it was, but I think she found the day that he switches it to "El Cheapo."
See, all times I heard Bob in the Money Game, I always thought he said EL Cheapo. I never realized he said OL' Cheapo. Now I will start listening closely on the Barker reruns for the Ol' Cheapo shows.
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Here's one I just remembered. When Dawson did his last daytime MG, they showed Bob Barker in his seat on the following week of shows. I thought "Oh, Richard's taking a vacation." Yeah, turned out to be a permanent one.
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Here's one I just remembered. When Dawson did his last daytime MG, they showed Bob Barker in his seat on the following week of shows. I thought "Oh, Richard's taking a vacation." Yeah, turned out to be a permanent one.
...But that's not a false memory.
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On NBC's All-American Ultra Quiz, a number of people have said that one of the rounds was in Paris, but I definitely remember the question rounds being:
It's possible that people remember Paris because the prize for the winners in London might have been to have dinner in Paris en route to Rome. I definitely remember that the four winners in Rome ate at a fancy restaurant with Dan & Dick, while the two losers had to eat in the bowels of the Colosseum.
This remains my holy grail, as a huge Rowan/Martin fan....is this in existence anywhere? any clips? anything? I think one of the game show compilation shows from years ago showed a brief clip but that was it.
A bit late, I admit, but since this thread is up again:
There's a clip of gameplay at the following link, taken as part of a Tomorrow Show appearance by Rowan and Martin to promote this series:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-Pe6B50OxE&t=5m35s
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Well, since this thread is active again...
I could have sworn that on Press Your Luck, the giant logo in the middle of the board and the logo on the back of the contestant island lit up in sync with one another. But Buzzr is more than 500 episodes in, and they still don't match.
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Well, since this thread is active again...
I could have sworn that on Press Your Luck, the giant logo in the middle of the board and the logo on the back of the contestant island lit up in sync with one another. But Buzzr is more than 500 episodes in, and they still don't match.
Every now and then they'd be in sync, but it didn't seem to be a priority. I also used to think that the slides would shuffle out of sync on purpose because a contestant was doing too well. Save for Larson (where they clearly did it on purpose halfway through his run), that clearly wasn't the case.
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I also used to think that the slides would shuffle out of sync on purpose because a contestant was doing too well. Save for Larson (where they clearly did it on purpose halfway through his run), that clearly wasn't the case.
Did they do it on purpose, or was the computer getting tired?
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I also used to think that the slides would shuffle out of sync on purpose because a contestant was doing too well. Save for Larson (where they clearly did it on purpose halfway through his run), that clearly wasn't the case.
Did they do it on purpose, or was the computer getting tired?
Positive it was a tired computer. Also, doing it on purpose wouldn’t have done a bit of good. They figured out right away that he had memorized the stopping point for just a couple of key squares, it’s not like he was going for every square on the board. Intentionally screwing up the synchronization would have accomplished exactly nothing, except getting Carruthers Company burned to the ground by S&P.
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Positive it was a tired computer. Also, doing it on purpose wouldn’t have done a bit of good. They figured out right away that he had memorized the stopping point for just a couple of key squares, it’s not like he was going for every square on the board. Intentionally screwing up the synchronization would have accomplished exactly nothing, except getting Carruthers Company burned to the ground by S&P.
I've always been of the mind that whenever the board went out of sync, it was purely coincidental and not intentional. There seemed to be two timing devices the squares were connected to - every other square was connected to the other timing device (if that wording makes sense). Sometimes when the board stopped, the square it stopped on would stop the device for that set of squares but the other would sometimes change. That could cause it to be out of sync for the next spin. It would get more out of sync if this scenario repeated a few times.
I did notice that usually after a whammy it would be in sync again. I guess the extra few seconds for the whammy animation allowed them the time to sync it up again.
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There was a misconception when I was a kid that came to mind when watching old Barker episode of TPIR on YouTube:
I always thought the little "device" that Bob held in his hand during the Clock Game controlled everything from the price display to the starting and stopping the Clock.
It took several years before I realized that it was a more elaborate "Password Word Wallet" that only showed the prices of the two prizes for Bob.