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Title: Closing themes not heard until the show's ending
Post by: Ian Wallis on September 14, 2020, 03:54:09 PM
I don't know if this is that interesting or not, but it's something I've thought about a few times:  shows where the piece of music used for the closing theme is heard only for the closing credits and nowhere else in the show.

Shows like Match Game 7x don't qualify, because they play the main theme going in and out of commercial breaks, and when someone wins the big money.  Treasure Hunt doesn't qualify, because in some of the episodes circulating, they play the main theme win someone wins a big jackpot.  The original Family Feud doesn't qualify, because they played a brief snippet of the theme when the host enters, and a longer edit when a family wins the big money.  Hollywood Squares in the '70s played the theme when describing secret square prizes.

This is what I've come up with:

All-Star Anything Goes - vocal theme played only at the end of the show
Bullseye
Dating Game - ABC starting in late 1972 until the end in July 1973
Dating Game - 1978-80 syndicated seasons
Dating Game - 1986-87 syndicated season
Joker's Wild - 1978-86 syndicated seasons
Whew!

If anyone finds any that I've missed, feel free to add if you want.
Title: Re: Closing themes not heard until the show's ending
Post by: WhammyPower on September 14, 2020, 04:00:19 PM
I'll add Hot Potato to the list.
Title: Re: Closing themes not heard until the show's ending
Post by: BrandonFG on September 14, 2020, 04:20:49 PM
-The original version of Scrabble
-Davidson's Hollywood Squares
-Caesar's Challenge
Title: Re: Closing themes not heard until the show's ending
Post by: Joe Mello on September 14, 2020, 04:22:00 PM
There's been at least one iteration of Wheel of Fortune that qualified.

ETA: At least one iteration of non-Alex Jeopardy! as well
Title: Re: Closing themes not heard until the show's ending
Post by: JasonA1 on September 14, 2020, 04:45:14 PM
Only one I can think of at the moment is the original Gambit.

-Jason
Title: Re: Closing themes not heard until the show's ending
Post by: JMFabiano on September 14, 2020, 04:50:33 PM
Joker's Wild - 1978-86 syndicated seasons

Likewise, would the first syndicated season of Joker count as the opening is The Savers, yet the closing is Joker's Jive?
Title: Re: Closing themes not heard until the show's ending
Post by: Chief-O on September 14, 2020, 05:32:28 PM
Pretty sure "Play the Percentages" qualifies.
Title: Re: Closing themes not heard until the show's ending
Post by: KWJCDon on September 14, 2020, 05:56:00 PM
Battlestars
Title: Re: Closing themes not heard until the show's ending
Post by: Blanquepage on September 14, 2020, 06:28:06 PM
I don't know if this is that interesting or not, but it's something I've thought about a few times:  shows where the piece of music used for the closing theme is heard only for the closing credits and nowhere else in the show.

Bullseye
I disagree here, the part of the closing that's missing from what we hear in our circulating copies is played during the mid-show fee plugs.

I'll add the closing theme to the first US (and most other) versions of The Weakest Link.

Title: Re: Closing themes not heard until the show's ending
Post by: Ian Wallis on September 14, 2020, 06:43:39 PM
-Caesar's Challenge

I thought about Caesar's Challenge but it doesn't quite qualify.  They actually play that piece right after the bonus round headed into the final commercial break.  It's very close though.
Title: Re: Closing themes not heard until the show's ending
Post by: Ian Wallis on September 14, 2020, 06:45:46 PM

Bullseye

I disagree here, the part of the closing that's missing from what we hear in our circulating copies is played during the mid-show fee plugs.


Now that I think of it, you're right.  In a few of the episodes I have, I think those plugs were cut.  Must be the ones that GSN aired!
Title: Re: Closing themes not heard until the show's ending
Post by: BrandonFG on September 14, 2020, 07:15:25 PM
-Caesar's Challenge

I thought about Caesar's Challenge but it doesn't quite qualify.  They actually play that piece right after the bonus round headed into the final commercial break.  It's very close though.
Good call. I forgot about that one cue.
Title: Re: Closing themes not heard until the show's ending
Post by: SuperMatch93 on September 14, 2020, 07:39:55 PM
The original What's My Line, for most of its run.
Title: Re: Closing themes not heard until the show's ending
Post by: bulldog_06 on September 14, 2020, 07:57:27 PM
Would the original High Rollers theme count?
Title: Re: Closing themes not heard until the show's ending
Post by: JasonA1 on September 14, 2020, 07:58:37 PM
Would the original High Rollers theme count?

I was thinking that, but it was used to send the show to commercial throughout the '78 run.

-Jason
Title: Re: Closing themes not heard until the show's ending
Post by: bulldog_06 on September 14, 2020, 08:20:13 PM
Would the original High Rollers theme count?

I was thinking that, but it was used to send the show to commercial throughout the '78 run.

-Jason

You're right. I was thinking more of the opening and the close. Forgot about the commercial breaks.
Title: Re: Closing themes not heard until the show's ending
Post by: BrandonFG on September 14, 2020, 08:38:38 PM
How about the original LMAD, pre-Vegas, where the band did the music live? The opening theme was a shortened version of the main melody, but there was no music going to commercial. And even in the Vegas run, they used a different cue.
Title: Re: Closing themes not heard until the show's ending
Post by: jage on September 14, 2020, 09:44:17 PM
The opening was also in a different key.
Title: Re: Closing themes not heard until the show's ending
Post by: JMFabiano on September 15, 2020, 10:24:42 AM
Pretty sure "Play the Percentages" qualifies.

Unless you count the "Plaaaaaaaay the percentages!" singer, who I think starts off the end theme too? 

With Whew!, the closing is the opening theme in another key, no?  You also hear the one part, again different key, as the Gauntlet of Villains reveal theme. 
Title: Re: Closing themes not heard until the show's ending
Post by: Joe Mello on September 15, 2020, 03:00:53 PM
With Whew!, the closing is the opening theme in another key, no? 
No, it's a different piece all together.

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You also hear the one part, again different key, as the Gauntlet of Villains reveal theme.
Different tempo and the closing doesn't have the synth riff that the Gauntlet does; it might also be a different key, but the closing modulates between keys.
Title: Re: Closing themes not heard until the show's ending
Post by: ChrisLambert! on September 15, 2020, 03:42:38 PM
No, it's a different piece all together.

"No, it's a different piece."
Title: Re: Closing themes not heard until the show's ending
Post by: jmangin on September 15, 2020, 04:41:42 PM
Treasure Hunt 1981-82 had a unique closing theme different from the opening/70s theme.
Title: Re: Closing themes not heard until the show's ending
Post by: nowhammies10 on September 15, 2020, 05:10:11 PM
No, it's a different piece all together.

"No, it's a different piece."

"I just wanted to tell you both good luck, we're all counting on you."
Title: Re: Closing themes not heard until the show's ending
Post by: BrandonFG on September 15, 2020, 05:41:15 PM
Treasure Hunt 1981-82 had a unique closing theme different from the opening/70s theme.
They occasionally used the main theme going to commercial, but I think they used the opening march as well.
Title: Re: Closing themes not heard until the show's ending
Post by: jimlangefan on September 15, 2020, 08:58:27 PM
The original Concentration
The original Twenty-One
A season or two of Cullen's Nighttime TPIR