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Title: BUZZR Lost and Found 2020
Post by: Blanquepage on August 28, 2020, 05:11:17 PM
"The secret is out! Peek inside our vault Sunday, 9/27, at 4 pm EST/1 pm PST for our 5th annual Lost and Found! Tune in for special NEVER before seen on #BUZZR shows and episodes! 📺 🤫 #LostAndFound"

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My money's still on at least one new show from that survey we took...
Title: Re: BUZZR Lost and Found 2020
Post by: chargeradiocom on August 31, 2020, 01:39:40 PM
My money's still on at least one new show from that survey we took...
I was thinking about this over the weekend. Considering that’s also about the time of year when we usually get a fairly substantial schedule change, you’re probably right.

Any speculation on what new show(s) we might be about to see?
Title: Re: BUZZR Lost and Found 2020
Post by: Mr. Matté on August 31, 2020, 02:19:05 PM
My money's still on at least one new show from that survey we took...
I was thinking about this over the weekend. Considering that’s also about the time of year when we usually get a fairly substantial schedule change, you’re probably right.

What were the results (or the general gist) of this survey?
Title: Re: BUZZR Lost and Found 2020
Post by: Bryce L. on August 31, 2020, 02:47:28 PM
My money's still on at least one new show from that survey we took...
I was thinking about this over the weekend. Considering that’s also about the time of year when we usually get a fairly substantial schedule change, you’re probably right.

What were the results (or the general gist) of this survey?
Don't think they were publicly released, but if I remember right, I believe they were responsible for putting Bzzz! and the Narz Concentration episodes onto the lineup.
Title: Re: BUZZR Lost and Found 2020
Post by: Blanquepage on August 31, 2020, 02:59:32 PM
My money's still on at least one new show from that survey we took...
I was thinking about this over the weekend. Considering that’s also about the time of year when we usually get a fairly substantial schedule change, you’re probably right.

What were the results (or the general gist) of this survey?

Results weren't published anywhere, but the survey included picking shows for BUZZR to add to the lineup. There were lots of really great possibilities, like Celebrity Sweepstakes, Liar's Club, High Rollers, Scrabble, and Hot Streak. Even WoF and Jeopardy were on there. I think there's a screengrab of all the survey options somewhere around here.
I wouldn't have the slightest notion as to what BUZZR may surprise us with, but I'm hoping Liar's Club and Celebrity Sweepstakes see a return to our screens.
Wouldn't be surprised at Scrabble.
Title: Re: BUZZR Lost and Found 2020
Post by: chargeradiocom on August 31, 2020, 03:05:52 PM
My money's still on at least one new show from that survey we took...
I was thinking about this over the weekend. Considering that’s also about the time of year when we usually get a fairly substantial schedule change, you’re probably right.

What were the results (or the general gist) of this survey?

Results weren't published anywhere, but the survey included picking shows for BUZZR to add to the lineup. There were lots of really great possibilities, like Celebrity Sweepstakes, Liar's Club, High Rollers, Scrabble, and Hot Streak. Even WoF and Jeopardy were on there. I think there's a screengrab of all the survey options somewhere around here.
I had to dig back to this thread (http://www.gameshowforum.org/index.php/topic,31555.0.html), but this was the first list:

Whew!
Scattergories
Wheel of Fortune
High Rollers
Win Ben Stein’s Money
Remote Control
Celebrity Sweepstakes
25 Words Or Less
Shop Till You Drop
The Price Is Right (with host Bob Barker)
Scrabble
Bruce Forsyth’s Hot Streak
Jeopardy!
Liar’s Club
Concentration

Obviously the show we got from that list appears to have been a success for the network.

There was also a section about dating & relationship game shows, and if you responded that you would like to see that kind of shows on BUZZR, you got another list. I don't recall everything on that list, but I remember it had The Newlywed Game (hosted by Bob Eubanks), the Dating Game (unspecified host), Singled Out, and Bzzz! (Although considering the one show we got from that list was less than successful, I'm guessing that, short of pulling off the rights to Eubanks Newlywed, they probably won't be running anything else from that list anytime soon.)

I have some additional thoughts but those will have to wait, because I'm on the clock.  :D
Title: Re: BUZZR Lost and Found 2020
Post by: Ian Wallis on August 31, 2020, 07:44:58 PM

Results weren't published anywhere, but the survey included picking shows for BUZZR to add to the lineup. There were lots of really great possibilities, like Celebrity Sweepstakes, Liar's Club, High Rollers, Scrabble, and Hot Streak. Even WoF and Jeopardy were on there. I think there's a screengrab of all the survey options somewhere around here.
I wouldn't have the slightest notion as to what BUZZR may surprise us with, but I'm hoping Liar's Club and Celebrity Sweepstakes see a return to our screens.
Wouldn't be surprised at Scrabble.

I was surprised at the inclusion of Celebrity Sweepstakes, among others.  I wonder if they were just pulling random shows that people like us remember to create a longer list, or if there's something to it.  Do enough episodes of Celebrity Sweepstakes even exist?  So far we only know of four.  Maybe BUZZR knows something we don't.

For the record, I'm hoping for that one!
Title: Re: BUZZR Lost and Found 2020
Post by: Big Brain on August 31, 2020, 08:31:30 PM
Does anyone think Nighttime Price with Tom Kennedy is on the table? That would be a nice little add, especially for those of us from Atlanta where the show only aired briefly on Saturdays IIRC.
Title: Re: BUZZR Lost and Found 2020
Post by: CoreyArcher on August 31, 2020, 09:25:41 PM
As for High Rollers, I'd assume only Wink's version is available? It's entertaining, but Trebek's was a gem.
Title: Re: BUZZR Lost and Found 2020
Post by: Otm Shank on August 31, 2020, 09:55:27 PM
Holding onto a faint glimmer of hope for the 3-player MGHSH pilot
Title: Re: BUZZR Lost and Found 2020
Post by: Blanquepage on August 31, 2020, 10:20:16 PM

Results weren't published anywhere, but the survey included picking shows for BUZZR to add to the lineup. There were lots of really great possibilities, like Celebrity Sweepstakes, Liar's Club, High Rollers, Scrabble, and Hot Streak. Even WoF and Jeopardy were on there. I think there's a screengrab of all the survey options somewhere around here.
I wouldn't have the slightest notion as to what BUZZR may surprise us with, but I'm hoping Liar's Club and Celebrity Sweepstakes see a return to our screens.
Wouldn't be surprised at Scrabble.

Do enough episodes of Celebrity Sweepstakes even exist?  So far we only know of four.  Maybe BUZZR knows something we don't.

2 nighttime episodes and the very nice quality finale, all from studio masters, have been at least some evidence that master tapes are around. The inclusion on the survey to me indicated that at least the nighttime version still exists and could be a weekly entry. Maybe an insider one of these days can tell us for sure. If it doesn't show up on BUZZR, that is.
Title: Re: BUZZR Lost and Found 2020
Post by: TimK2003 on August 31, 2020, 10:55:31 PM

Results weren't published anywhere, but the survey included picking shows for BUZZR to add to the lineup. There were lots of really great possibilities, like Celebrity Sweepstakes, Liar's Club, High Rollers, Scrabble, and Hot Streak. Even WoF and Jeopardy were on there. I think there's a screengrab of all the survey options somewhere around here.
I wouldn't have the slightest notion as to what BUZZR may surprise us with, but I'm hoping Liar's Club and Celebrity Sweepstakes see a return to our screens.
Wouldn't be surprised at Scrabble.

Do enough episodes of Celebrity Sweepstakes even exist?  So far we only know of four.  Maybe BUZZR knows something we don't.

2 nighttime episodes and the very nice quality finale, all from studio masters, have been at least some evidence that master tapes are around. The inclusion on the survey to me indicated that at least the nighttime version still exists and could be a weekly entry. Maybe an insider one of these days can tell us for sure. If it doesn't show up on BUZZR, that is.

We know that Burt Sugarman has most, if not all of Whew! under lock and key, and his "Midnight Special" is around in various DVD collections.  Doesn't Burt own the rights to Celebrity Sweepstakes as well?

If any Grundy show were to come out of mothballs, I could see Hot Streak before Scrabble or Scattergories, simply because Bruce's show has no product licensing hurdles like the other two have.
Title: Re: BUZZR Lost and Found 2020
Post by: JMFabiano on September 01, 2020, 07:59:36 AM
Holding onto a faint glimmer of hope for the 3-player MGHSH pilot

My thoughts exactly.  If they do a pilot/typical episode pattern as they did in the past, perhaps the pilot then finally airing the premiere?  (assuming there's no other issues about the episode) 

If I had to predict, I'd go for (fingers crossed) Whew!  Cult fan favorite, Sugarman MIGHT be easier to talk with than a big company like Sony, et al. 
Title: Re: BUZZR Lost and Found 2020
Post by: calliaume on September 01, 2020, 10:39:12 AM
I'm not sure who has the rights to Celebrity Sweepstakes. Jim MacKrell explained it to me once and I've forgotten the details (my notes are here someplace).

Back in late 2000 when Millionaire was popular, one of Burt Sugarman's assistants contacted me to see if I knew how to get in touch with Ralph Andrews to talk about a Sweepstakes revival. Draw your own conclusions from that one.
Title: Re: BUZZR Lost and Found 2020
Post by: Bryce L. on September 01, 2020, 10:58:45 AM
OK, schedule is up for the Lost and Found event...

4:00pm
Call My Bluff 65
Two teams of contestants, each led by a celebrity guest, must provide definitions to obscure words. Only one team member is provided the actual definition, and the other two must "Bluff" and convince the other team that they have the true definition. (original airdate 3/29/1965)

4:40pm
Number Please 61
Two players alternate calling out numbers on their row of 20 spaces to reveal letters of a prize to be identified. The first to correctly guess the prizes wins the game. (original airdate 5/29/1961)

5:20pm
Say When!! 61
Two contestants select various prizes in hopes of achieving a total sum that is closest to a target value (without going over).

6:00pm
Get The Message 64
Contestants try to guess expressions, titles or names from one word clues supplied by each of their two celebrity teammates.

6:40pm
Split Personality 59
Two contestants race to solve the identity of a mystery celebrity by selecting the clues that their opponent will receive. (original airdate 9/13/1959)

7:20pm
What's Going On? 54
A panel of three celebrities in the studio try to guess the remote location of other celebrities and what they were doing.

Source: https://buzzrtv.com/schedule/schedule_by_date/2020-9-27/America/New_York
Title: Re: BUZZR Lost and Found 2020
Post by: Blanquepage on September 01, 2020, 12:20:36 PM
Well, no acquisitions but this isn't bad at all! Looks like Call My Bluff and Get the Message are the premieres and Say When & Split Personality are the pilots.
Pretty stoked about Call My Bluff, was never successful at securing the episode sitting in a few collections. If the date is accurate, it's not the same episode.
I don't think the GTM premiere has been circulated, either?
Title: Re: BUZZR Lost and Found 2020
Post by: BillCullen1 on September 01, 2020, 12:35:04 PM
Looking forward to this. I never saw "Call My Bluff" or "Split Personality" before.
Title: Re: BUZZR Lost and Found 2020
Post by: Matt Ottinger on September 01, 2020, 12:48:36 PM
Has Split Personality ever aired?  I seem to remember only having a cruddy, well-traveled collectors' VHS dub.
Title: Re: BUZZR Lost and Found 2020
Post by: Blanquepage on September 01, 2020, 12:50:00 PM
Has Split Personality ever aired?  I seem to remember only having a cruddy, well-traveled collectors' VHS dub.
Pretty sure not, nor has the Say When pilot. Will be nice to have them in mint.
Title: Re: BUZZR Lost and Found 2020
Post by: Winkfan on September 01, 2020, 01:25:53 PM
Good: Thought they might have an "all B&W block" this year.

Bad: No Beat The Clock from the ABC run. [(King Leonardo)CONFOUNDIT!!!!!(/kl)]

Cordially,
Tammy
Title: Re: BUZZR Lost and Found 2020
Post by: Chelsea Thrasher on September 02, 2020, 02:45:35 AM
I know previews of new acquisitions are shiny and exciting but honestly?  The schedule's in a pretty good place at the moment as long as you don't take it for granted, and the money they could use for acquisitions (and most of what's left out there isn't going to be cheap) and time/money spent on transfers could easily be used to continue to bolster their existing lineup. 

Would it be amazing if they could make a deal with MGM for Marshall or Davidson's squares? Absolutely (caveat: Outside of stuff like Whew, Davidson's run of HS is one of the 2-3 shows I want to see again most and yes that's personal taste or a lack thereof); something like Celebrity Sweepstakes turning up would be incredible as a fan but likely cost more than the return on that money. And clearing up the licensing and legal issues with Hasbro to run Scrabble? Hoo boy.

You know what else would be phenomenal to see?  Any of the seven years of TTTT/six years of WML they haven't run.  Super Password from the last couple of years. Is the 1990 run of Let's Make a Deal available?  (Co production and Disney issues could complicate this). Password Plus from the Tom Kennedy era. Even something like Family Feud w/ Dawson, they've never run anything on the regular schedule prior to February 1980. Or go the other way and run the 1994 series.   If they want something a bit newer, what about the 2002 Beat the Clock reboot? It was honestly really good and they made quite a few episodes of it.  It'd be nice to see Bill Rafferty's two series get some love.

There's so much unmined material just within whatever they already have or probably have that they could keep it totally in house for a while still and still freshen up large swaths of the schedule.
Title: Re: BUZZR Lost and Found 2020
Post by: golden-road on September 02, 2020, 10:43:01 AM
Is the 1990 run of Let's Make a Deal available?  (Co production and Disney issues could complicate this).

I've always wondered who owns LMaD'90. I've read for years that Disney themselves own it, but couldn't that be confusing it for the other Clark/Greenberg show that was on the air at the time?
Title: Re: BUZZR Lost and Found 2020
Post by: JMFabiano on September 02, 2020, 01:31:47 PM
Is the 1990 run of Let's Make a Deal available?  (Co production and Disney issues could complicate this).

I've always wondered who owns LMaD'90. I've read for years that Disney themselves own it, but couldn't that be confusing it for the other Clark/Greenberg show that was on the air at the time?

Similarly I'd ask if anything distributed by 20th Century Fox now partially fell into Disney's hands (thinking Liars' Club, for instance).  But...Sony has the original $100K Pyramid despite Fox syndicating it.  Still, there's other shows whose syndicators provided a block to reruns (see: CBS = Cullen Pyramid; Colgate-Palmolive = $50K; [EDIT] NBCUniversal and Peter Rodgers with Davidson $100K.  Paramount with D. Davidson PIR...assume that would now be CBS Television Distribution too...) 
Title: Re: BUZZR Lost and Found 2020
Post by: Chief-O on September 02, 2020, 05:16:44 PM
I've always wondered who owns LMaD'90. I've read for years that Disney themselves own it, but couldn't that be confusing it for the other Clark/Greenberg show that was on the air at the time?

I just pulled up an ep. on YouTube, and I didn't see any Disney/Buena Vista logo at the end (just the mention of Disney/MGM Orlando as the taping location). I'm sure there's probably some confusion with "The Challengers" somewhere.

I'd probably think that between the 2 production companies, DCP would probably (still) hold the rights. But then again, Fremantle may have gotten a hold of it along with the other previous incarnations....?
Title: Re: BUZZR Lost and Found 2020
Post by: PYLdude on September 02, 2020, 05:51:15 PM
The Davidson Pyramid, if I’m not mistaken, is split because they changed distributors and production companies in between seasons. At least part of it would be in possession of NBCUniversal (the second season) through succession. The first season was an Orbis Communications property, so I would assume whoever owns the distribution rights to Joker 90 also is in possession of that.
Title: Re: BUZZR Lost and Found 2020
Post by: JMFabiano on September 02, 2020, 06:00:28 PM
The Davidson Pyramid, if I’m not mistaken, is split because they changed distributors and production companies in between seasons. At least part of it would be in possession of NBCUniversal (the second season) through succession. The first season was an Orbis Communications property, so I would assume whoever owns the distribution rights to Joker 90 also is in possession of that.

I think that would be the Peter Rodgers Organization?  (who also hold the rights to Celebrity Bowling)

Second season was Multimedia Entertainment, who also distributed Donahue.  And yes, that's where NBCU comes in.
Title: Re: BUZZR Lost and Found 2020
Post by: BrandonFG on September 02, 2020, 07:49:48 PM
I've always wondered who owns LMaD'90. I've read for years that Disney themselves own it, but couldn't that be confusing it for the other Clark/Greenberg show that was on the air at the time?

I just pulled up an ep. on YouTube, and I didn't see any Disney/Buena Vista logo at the end (just the mention of Disney/MGM Orlando as the taping location). I'm sure there's probably some confusion with "The Challengers" somewhere.

I'd probably think that between the 2 production companies, DCP would probably (still) hold the rights. But then again, Fremantle may have gotten a hold of it along with the other previous incarnations....?
Yep. AFAIK, LMAD was a Ron Greenberg and Dick Clark Production, being on NBC. It was “The Challengers” that was distributed by Buena Vista.
Title: Re: BUZZR Lost and Found 2020
Post by: Adam Nedeff on September 02, 2020, 11:44:31 PM
As for High Rollers, I'd assume only Wink's version is available? It's entertaining, but Trebek's was a gem.

All of the 1974-76 run High Rollers survives, which I learned only about a year ago. I'm honestly shocked that an effort hasn't been made to digitize some chunk of it because of the amount of goodwill name value Alex's name carries now.

One frustrating thing I've come to learn in the past few years is that much, MUCH more of certain things exist in various vaults than we realize, and the fact that we're not seeing it is a matter of economic sense. CBS has unedited, complete prints in black & white of the final year of Password that we've been seeing in their chopped up-for-syndication form all these years, but why bother with those when the average viewer is fine with seeing the cut up versions in color? Save for the first month or so, Bud Collyer's entire daytime To Tell the Truth exists in the CBS vaults, but why go to the trouble of making a deal with the CBS vaults and spending a small fortune converting them to a usable form when we already have the batch of prime time episodes in a form that's easier to work with?

(Video Village still exists, too.)
Title: Re: BUZZR Lost and Found 2020
Post by: Bryce L. on September 03, 2020, 01:03:50 AM
One frustrating thing I've come to learn in the past few years is that much, MUCH more of certain things exist in various vaults than we realize, and the fact that we're not seeing it is a matter of economic sense. CBS has unedited, complete prints in black & white of the final year of Password that we've been seeing in their chopped up-for-syndication form all these years, but why bother with those when the average viewer is fine with seeing the cut up versions in color? Save for the first month or so, Bud Collyer's entire daytime To Tell the Truth exists in the CBS vaults, but why go to the trouble of making a deal with the CBS vaults and spending a small fortune converting them to a usable form when we already have the batch of prime time episodes in a form that's easier to work with?
Is Fremantle aware of the existence of these prints in CBS' possession?
Title: Re: BUZZR Lost and Found 2020
Post by: thomas_meighan on September 03, 2020, 01:41:40 AM
Something I’d like to see on Buzzr is that 1969 “Match Game” with Peggy Cass and Tony Randall that one of the Paley Center branches has.

My inner nerd that’s fascinated with preservation would like to see a color tape and B&W kinescope from that final year of “Password” edited together so that we could see exactly how much had to be cut from each episode. (Don’t know if general viewers would appreciate that approach, however, given the inevitable shifting in picture and audio quality.)
Title: Re: BUZZR Lost and Found 2020
Post by: Eric Paddon on September 03, 2020, 03:56:12 AM
It's actually possible to do that with one 1967 night episode with Carol Burnett and Alan King.    The unedited B/W kinescope of that show has been in the hobby since the 90s (when I got it) and the edited color version was part of the GSN cycle (though I don't think the 67 night shows have aired since before the DP).
Title: Re: BUZZR Lost and Found 2020
Post by: calliaume on September 04, 2020, 09:34:37 PM
All of the 1974-76 run High Rollers survives, which I learned only about a year ago. I'm honestly shocked that an effort hasn't been made to digitize some chunk of it because of the amount of goodwill name value Alex's name carries now.
Who owns High Rollers? I know Hollywood Squares is now with King World; is that the case for High Rollers as well?
Title: Re: BUZZR Lost and Found 2020
Post by: snowpeck on September 04, 2020, 10:04:51 PM
All of the 1974-76 run High Rollers survives, which I learned only about a year ago. I'm honestly shocked that an effort hasn't been made to digitize some chunk of it because of the amount of goodwill name value Alex's name carries now.
Who owns High Rollers? I know Hollywood Squares is now with King World; is that the case for High Rollers as well?
I would assume MGM, who also owns Hollywood Squares. (CBS owns the format rights but not the episode library.)
Title: Re: BUZZR Lost and Found 2020
Post by: chargeradiocom on September 07, 2020, 11:55:58 AM
I know previews of new acquisitions are shiny and exciting but honestly?  The schedule's in a pretty good place at the moment as long as you don't take it for granted, and the money they could use for acquisitions (and most of what's left out there isn't going to be cheap) and time/money spent on transfers could easily be used to continue to bolster their existing lineup. 

Would it be amazing if they could make a deal with MGM for Marshall or Davidson's squares? Absolutely (caveat: Outside of stuff like Whew, Davidson's run of HS is one of the 2-3 shows I want to see again most and yes that's personal taste or a lack thereof); something like Celebrity Sweepstakes turning up would be incredible as a fan but likely cost more than the return on that money. And clearing up the licensing and legal issues with Hasbro to run Scrabble? Hoo boy.

You know what else would be phenomenal to see?  Any of the seven years of TTTT/six years of WML they haven't run.  Super Password from the last couple of years. Is the 1990 run of Let's Make a Deal available?  (Co production and Disney issues could complicate this). Password Plus from the Tom Kennedy era. Even something like Family Feud w/ Dawson, they've never run anything on the regular schedule prior to February 1980. Or go the other way and run the 1994 series.   If they want something a bit newer, what about the 2002 Beat the Clock reboot? It was honestly really good and they made quite a few episodes of it.  It'd be nice to see Bill Rafferty's two series get some love.

There's so much unmined material just within whatever they already have or probably have that they could keep it totally in house for a while still and still freshen up large swaths of the schedule.
Largely agreed. One thing that befuddles me about BUZZR is how new arrivals seem to get their episodes fast-tracked, while popular stalwarts that have been around for a long time get new episodes at a trickle if that. For shows with a licensed component, I’d be willing to think they just want to get their money’s worth while they have the rights. But even Supermarket Sweep got the same treatment for a while (though they seem to have dialed it back a bit), & that’s fully owned by Fremantle now as I understand. I get that they need a decent number of episodes in rotation for all the shows on the schedule, & they’ve been clear that it’s going to take a while to convert everything. But is there really a more of a market for rushed-out new episodes of Match Game/Hollywood Squares Hour than for fresh-ish episodes of Press Your Luck, Password Plus, or Dawson & Combs Feud?
Title: Re: BUZZR Lost and Found 2020
Post by: MSTieScott on September 07, 2020, 12:41:59 PM
I would imagine that that's done with the casual viewer in mind. If a person checks in with Buzzr only once or twice a week, and assuming they'd change the channel if they realize they already know the outcome of the game they're watching, that's less likely to happen when there are 100 episodes of MGHS in the rotation.
Title: Re: BUZZR Lost and Found 2020
Post by: gamed121683 on September 08, 2020, 08:23:34 PM
We have a promo now!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrQYmqFlsVM
Title: Re: BUZZR Lost and Found 2020
Post by: Blanquepage on September 08, 2020, 08:47:26 PM
Just a minor note to collectors, it looks like Call My Bluff won't be episode 1 after all. It appears to be the same test episode with Peggy Cass and Abe Burrows that's been in a couple of private collections for several years and reviewed on Mike's Pilot Light. Still looking forward to seeing the whole thing!
Title: Re: BUZZR Lost and Found 2020
Post by: CoreyArcher on September 08, 2020, 08:52:17 PM
All of the 1974-76 run High Rollers survives, which I learned only about a year ago. I'm honestly shocked that an effort hasn't been made to digitize some chunk of it because of the amount of goodwill name value Alex's name carries now.

And the promos would practically write themselves. Coming up, stay tuned for Casino Hour with back-to-back High Rollers and Card Sharks!
Title: Re: BUZZR Lost and Found 2020
Post by: DjohnsonCB on September 10, 2020, 03:12:19 AM
Anyone have the starting times for these lost shows?  I want to see Call My Bluff!
Title: Re: BUZZR Lost and Found 2020
Post by: MikeK on September 10, 2020, 03:56:15 AM
Anyone have the starting times for these lost shows?  I want to see Call My Bluff!
Go back 2 pages.  I am not spoon-feeding you the information.
Title: Re: BUZZR Lost and Found 2020
Post by: gamed121683 on September 27, 2020, 07:43:08 PM
Now that BUZZR's Lost & Found 2020 is officially in the books, I just want to be clear on something...

Call My Bluff, Number Please, Get The Message, & What's Going On? were all random general episodes while Say When!! & Split Personality were both pilots, correct?
Title: Re: BUZZR Lost and Found 2020
Post by: Blanquepage on September 27, 2020, 08:00:25 PM
Now that BUZZR's Lost & Found 2020 is officially in the books, I just want to be clear on something...

Call My Bluff, Number Please, Get The Message, & What's Going On? were all random general episodes while Say When!! & Split Personality were both pilots, correct?

Call My Bluff was a test episode prior to the actual premiere.
Say When was the premiere episode.
The UCLA archive shows Get the Message was episode #8.

I'd say Call My Bluff and Say When were the highlights for me.
Title: Re: BUZZR Lost and Found 2020
Post by: Winkfan on September 27, 2020, 08:46:21 PM
As I was watching the "Lost and Found" marathon, I realized that all six shows presented had a connection with To Tell the Truth.

Let me break it down for you:

1.) The celebs we saw were all were all regular panelists on TTTT.
a.) Peggy Cass, Phyllis Newman, and Orson Bean on Get The Message. (Peggy was also on Call My Bluff.)
b.) Tom Poston, who hosted Split Personality.
c.) Kitty Carlisle and Hy Gardner on What's Going On.

2.) Sue Oakland (who was also on WGO) and Art James (who hosted Say When) were guest panelists on TTTT.

3.) Bud Collyer hosted TTTT at the same time as Number Please.

4.) Johnny Olson, who announced Get The Message and Split Personality, also did likewise on TTTT.

Cordially,
Tammy
Title: Re: BUZZR Lost and Found 2020
Post by: DjohnsonCB on September 27, 2020, 09:07:59 PM
I want to see a revival of Call My Bluff!  It was a hit across the pond.  I did, however, like the theme music for Get The Message if not the game itself.
Title: Re: BUZZR Lost and Found 2020
Post by: gamed121683 on September 27, 2020, 10:31:42 PM
I want to see a revival of Call My Bluff!  It was a hit across the pond.  I did, however, like the theme music for Get The Message if not the game itself.

Ah, the Get The Message theme. Always reminds me the Village Stompers tune "Washington Square" for some reason. I kind of liked the Call My Bluff theme even if it is a derivative of the Missing Links theme (at least it was to me).
Title: Re: BUZZR Lost and Found 2020
Post by: gamed121683 on September 27, 2020, 10:36:15 PM
Now that BUZZR's Lost & Found 2020 is officially in the books, I just want to be clear on something...

Call My Bluff, Number Please, Get The Message, & What's Going On? were all random general episodes while Say When!! & Split Personality were both pilots, correct?

Call My Bluff was a test episode prior to the actual premiere.
Say When was the premiere episode.
The UCLA archive shows Get the Message was episode #8.

I'd say Call My Bluff and Say When were the highlights for me.

Wow! Thanks for the corrections, Blanquepage...much appreciated! Dumb question here, but what's the difference b/w a test episode & a pilot?
Title: Re: BUZZR Lost and Found 2020
Post by: WarioBarker on September 27, 2020, 10:46:26 PM
Say When was the premiere episode.
That's actually a test episode too. I doubt having to "say when" before knowing what your grand total will be made it to series, especially since someone lost the game here despite hitting the target amount and Art seemed a bit confused as to how to handle the situation.

Dumb question here, but what's the difference b/w a test episode & a pilot?
It depends - a test episode can be more or less a runthrough done after the pilot sells but before the series proper begins taping, sometimes even labeled as a pilot for the network's budgetary purposes. In other cases, a test show is made mid-run to see how an idea works out in practice before committing to it or not.
Title: Re: BUZZR Lost and Found 2020
Post by: BillCullen1 on September 28, 2020, 12:49:55 AM
I had seen the eps of "Get the Message" and "What's Going On?" The others were all new to me. The highlights for me were "Call My Bluff" and "Split Personality."  Bluff was the 60s version of "Wordplay" with a slightly different format.
Title: Re: BUZZR Lost and Found 2020
Post by: thomas_meighan on September 28, 2020, 01:26:23 AM
I wonder if that "Get the Message" episode was actually a rehearsal/pilot rather than an aired program. This issue was brought up here once before:
http://www.gameshowforum.org/index.php/topic,12606.0.html (http://www.gameshowforum.org/index.php/topic,12606.0.html)

Yes, there were sponsor messages and commercials, but the 1962 "Match Game" pilot also had them.

Circumstantial evidence pointing toward the rehearsal/pilot theory:
*UCLA's entry for this episode shows a recording date of 3-13-1964, which seems a bit further in advance than most daytime games were taped back then.
*The Bean-Keel-Cass-Newman combination doesn't appear in the celebrity listings posted at the following link (although not all weeks are complete):
http://ctva.biz/US/GameShow/GetTheMessage.htm (http://ctva.biz/US/GameShow/GetTheMessage.htm)
*By the time of the 5-8-1964 episode with Hickman-Burrows-Sothern-Dussault, some subtle changes have taken place: Buxton's podium now has the show's logo, and the overlays displaying the phrases are a bit more elaborate. Those changes could've taken place during the week on the air -- but in any case, it also points to the Bean-Keel-Cass-Newman show being produced before the other surviving Buxton episode, as opposed to later in the spring or summer.
Title: Re: BUZZR Lost and Found 2020
Post by: Blanquepage on September 28, 2020, 08:44:24 AM
I wonder if that "Get the Message" episode was actually a rehearsal/pilot rather than an aired program. This issue was brought up here once before:
http://www.gameshowforum.org/index.php/topic,12606.0.html (http://www.gameshowforum.org/index.php/topic,12606.0.html)

Perhaps it was. The below link has the listings for the whole series, and the lineup of celebs in this episode doesn't exist.
http://ctva.biz/US/GameShow/GetTheMessage.htm
Title: Re: BUZZR Lost and Found 2020
Post by: Matt Ottinger on September 28, 2020, 04:36:40 PM
I'm not actually asking any of you to upload these to YouTube.  That would be wrong.  But if you happen to find links to any of them, there are a few that I'd like to see again.
Title: Re: BUZZR Lost and Found 2020
Post by: chad1m on September 28, 2020, 04:54:55 PM
I'm not actually asking any of you to upload these to YouTube.  That would be wrong.  But if you happen to find links to any of them, there are a few that I'd like to see again.
Buzzr currently has them all posted on their YouTube page.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLgorHfeWgLHG64rW87obggTwWjklJinT8
Title: Re: BUZZR Lost and Found 2020
Post by: Matt Ottinger on September 28, 2020, 08:19:00 PM
I'm not actually asking any of you to upload these to YouTube.  That would be wrong.  But if you happen to find links to any of them, there are a few that I'd like to see again.
Buzzr currently has them all posted on their YouTube page.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLgorHfeWgLHG64rW87obggTwWjklJinT8

Just came here to say that myself. Thanks!
Title: Re: BUZZR Lost and Found 2020
Post by: snowpeck on September 28, 2020, 08:59:34 PM
Ah, the Get The Message theme. Always reminds me the Village Stompers tune "Washington Square" for some reason.

That's because it's another song by the Village Stompers called "The La-Dee-Da Song."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DA8M5d8Wr4E&ab_channel=TheVillageStompers-Topic
Title: Re: BUZZR Lost and Found 2020
Post by: Blanquepage on September 28, 2020, 09:19:39 PM
Ah, the Get The Message theme. Always reminds me the Village Stompers tune "Washington Square" for some reason.

That's because it's another song by the Village Stompers called "The La-Dee-Da Song."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DA8M5d8Wr4E&ab_channel=TheVillageStompers-Topic

My goodness, fellow. That makes may night because I really digged the theme too. Thanks for this!
Title: Re: BUZZR Lost and Found 2020
Post by: MSTieScott on September 28, 2020, 11:02:56 PM
Lee Bowman: Ladies and gentlemen, we hope you've enjoyed What's Going On? tonight.

Me: No.
Title: Re: BUZZR Lost and Found 2020
Post by: NickintheATL on September 30, 2020, 03:13:06 AM
Not to be outdone by my husband earlier in this thread identifying that music from "Get the Message", I have found the "What's Going On?" theme music.

"Road Show" by Bob Haymes

https://open.spotify.com/track/7hwpFWdqZHvZSrYKeMFlSk?si=1ZRPckj_TJWZginWe6oABQ

(Note: you have to have a Spotify subscription to listen to this link)

ETA: found it on the YouTubes as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiYFfV1Qok0