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Title: Woolery's Departure from Wheel
Post by: Card Shark on July 20, 2020, 04:17:47 PM
It is known that Chuck left in late 1981 over a contract dispute. According to Come On Down!!! The T.V. Game Show Book, by Jefferson Graham, Woolery wanted a raise from $300K to $500K and Merv only offered $375K. Other sources online have stated that he was making $65K a year and wanted the $500K. I have tried to find the E! True Hollywood Story on Wheel, but have been unable. If memory serves correctly, on this subject, Chuck stated that Wheel was beating daytime Feud in the ratings.

So, for those in the "know", what was the actual amount of money Chuck earned per year? $65K would seem low to me, while $300K does not. Was Wheel actually beating Feud? I thought it was the number one game show in the ratings. Thanks in advance for any clarification.
Title: Re: Woolery's Departure from Wheel
Post by: NickintheATL on July 21, 2020, 06:51:43 PM
Well from 8/4/1980 until the end of his run - Wheel was not on against Feud, rather the first half of Price on CBS and the first half of Love Boat repeats on ABC.

I would hazard a guess that Wheel was a comfortable #2. It would be interesting to see the numbers but I don't think Woolery could have ever justified that kind of salary increase for hosting a show that was then against the hottest show on daytime television.
Title: Re: Woolery's Departure from Wheel
Post by: calliaume on July 21, 2020, 07:03:00 PM
I just checked EoTVGS -- for roughly five years from 1978 to 1983, The Price Is Right, Family Feud, and Wheel of Fortune were 1-2-3.

However, there were only six game shows on daytime overall when Chuck was axed--the three mentioned above, plus Blockbusters, Battlestars, and Password Plus, and those three were obviously pretty weak. And considering Family Feud aired at 12 noon, finishing ahead of Wheel didn't look good either.
Title: Re: Woolery's Departure from Wheel
Post by: JakeT on July 21, 2020, 07:47:01 PM
So, for those in the "know", what was the actual amount of money Chuck earned per year? $65K would seem low to me, while $300K does not. Was Wheel actually beating Feud? I thought it was the number one game show in the ratings. Thanks in advance for any clarification.

I can't believe there is any way possible that Woolery was only earning $65K a year...that would have put him beneath union scale, wouldn't it?

JakeT
Title: Re: Woolery's Departure from Wheel
Post by: Bryce L. on July 21, 2020, 08:20:04 PM
So, for those in the "know", what was the actual amount of money Chuck earned per year? $65K would seem low to me, while $300K does not. Was Wheel actually beating Feud? I thought it was the number one game show in the ratings. Thanks in advance for any clarification.

I can't believe there is any way possible that Woolery was only earning $65K a year...that would have put him beneath union scale, wouldn't it?

JakeT
In the E! THS, Woolery said he "asked for parity with Dick Dawson". He was supposedly getting $5K a week (multiplied by 52 weeks gives $260K a year), and wanted to double that. Merv would've signed off on $7,500/week. Chuck said no, and the rest is history.
Title: Re: Woolery's Departure from Wheel
Post by: splinkynip on July 21, 2020, 08:41:44 PM
NBC supposedly offered to make up the difference between what Merv was offering and what Chuck wanted, but Merv then threatened NBC by saying he’ll take the show to CBS.
Title: Re: Woolery's Departure from Wheel
Post by: BrandonFG on July 21, 2020, 08:43:20 PM
At some point in the 2000s, Chuck claimed it was never about the money, because that wouldn't be right as a Christian.

There's also a Donahue interview from the late-80s where he confirmed it was indeed about the money.
Title: Re: Woolery's Departure from Wheel
Post by: JakeT on July 21, 2020, 09:00:55 PM
At some point in the 2000s, Chuck claimed it was never about the money, because that wouldn't be right as a Christian.

There's also a Donahue interview from the late-80s where he confirmed it was indeed about the money.

Ahhhhhhh, Chuck Woolery...a man of great integrity...

Not...

JakeT
Title: Re: Woolery's Departure from Wheel
Post by: NickintheATL on July 21, 2020, 09:05:22 PM
I just checked EoTVGS -- for roughly five years from 1978 to 1983, The Price Is Right, Family Feud, and Wheel of Fortune were 1-2-3.

I guess I should have specified #2 in that time slot. But this info isn't surprising in and of itself.

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However, there were only six game shows on daytime overall when Chuck was axed--the three mentioned above, plus Blockbusters, Battlestars, and Password Plus, and those three were obviously pretty weak. And considering Family Feud aired at 12 noon, finishing ahead of Wheel didn't look good either.

Now that is a much more interesting comparison. Not trying to threadjack here but I would love to know how many markets were doing a Noon news at this point and either didn't air Feud or time-shifted/tape delayed it. It has to be at least a few.
Title: Re: Woolery's Departure from Wheel
Post by: TLEberle on July 21, 2020, 09:20:05 PM
At some point in the 2000s, Chuck claimed it was never about the money, because that wouldn't be right as a Christian.

There's also a Donahue interview from the late-80s where he confirmed it was indeed about the money.
Well then, that's sort of hilarious. He also could have done a big heap of good with the difference between $present remuneration and $raisethatIwant. I presume that there's an equivalent to Seattle's Union Gospel Mission, Treehouse Foundation and the like in just about every large metropolis.

/plug plug plug
//"And here's the host of Scrabble, Pat Sajak" is not the same.
Title: Re: Woolery's Departure from Wheel
Post by: Card Shark on July 21, 2020, 10:24:11 PM
Thank you all very much for clearing this up. While $65k may have been a lot in 1981, it still seemed way too little for a network game show host. Thanks.
Title: Re: Woolery's Departure from Wheel
Post by: tyshaun1 on July 22, 2020, 11:46:17 AM
I would hazard a guess that Wheel was a comfortable #2. It would be interesting to see the numbers but I don't think Woolery could have ever justified that kind of salary increase for hosting a show that was then against the hottest show on daytime television.
General Hospital AKA Luke and Laura says hi.

Up until mid-1983, Wheel struggled against The Love Boat as well. After the syndie debut, Wheel usually edged out the first half of TPIR until Pat left.
Title: Re: Woolery's Departure from Wheel
Post by: calliaume on July 01, 2021, 03:56:31 PM
Reviving this thread with something I discovered yesterday. Chuck was sniffing out different jobs earlier in the year--this is the second of three ads from Broadcasting magazine for a proposed daytime magazine syndie strip, Hittin' Home.

www.americanradiohistory.com/hd2/IDX-Business/Magazines/Archive-BC-IDX/81-OCR/1981-04-06-BC-OCR-Page-0043.pdf#search=%22woolery%22 (http://www.americanradiohistory.com/hd2/IDX-Business/Magazines/Archive-BC-IDX/81-OCR/1981-04-06-BC-OCR-Page-0043.pdf#search=%22woolery%22)

The first of them ran in January and advertised Chuck as the host amongst a bunch of regulars: Art Linkletter, Walter Cronkite's daughter Cathy, M*A*S*H medical consultant Walter Dishell, the San Diego Chicken (under a different name), and a few others. This one and the one that ran the following week focused exclusively on Chuck.

I'm not sure how things would have worked if this had sold--whether Woolery would have left Wheel anyway to avoid having two possibly competing programs in daytime, or if he could have done the both of them. Just thought it was an interesting tidbit.
Title: Re: Woolery's Departure from Wheel
Post by: Jimmy Owen on July 01, 2021, 04:06:40 PM
I think he would have done both.  As you may remember The Chuck Woolery Show ran simultaneously with Love Connection.  I think Scrabble had ended by then
Title: Re: Woolery's Departure from Wheel
Post by: BrandonFG on July 01, 2021, 04:11:44 PM
I think he would have done both.  As you may remember The Chuck Woolery Show ran simultaneously with Love Connection.  I think Scrabble had ended by then
It had. Chuck’s talk show was fall 1991. Scrabble ended in March of ‘90.
Title: Re: Woolery's Departure from Wheel
Post by: calliaume on July 01, 2021, 04:44:52 PM
I think he would have done both.  As you may remember The Chuck Woolery Show ran simultaneously with Love Connection.  I think Scrabble had ended by then
Eric Lieber's company produced both The Chuck Woolery Show and Love Connection, so obviously there were no conflicts between the production companies. Merv Griffin might not have felt so benevolent, especially given the two shows could have been in competing time slots in some markets.

Randy West had a thread yesterday that implied Merv was looking to let Chuck go well before the end of 1981, so I looked at Broadcasting for details.
Title: Re: Woolery's Departure from Wheel
Post by: chris319 on July 01, 2021, 07:44:57 PM
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Randy West had a thread yesterday that implied Merv was looking to let Chuck go well before the end of 1981, so I looked on Broadcasting for details.

Randy's say-so isn't good enough for you?
Title: Re: Woolery's Departure from Wheel
Post by: tyshaun1 on July 02, 2021, 07:39:37 AM
Randy's say-so isn't good enough for you?
I get the sense that you think what Randy says should be ingested with a small dose of a mineral?
Title: Re: Woolery's Departure from Wheel
Post by: clemon79 on July 02, 2021, 12:53:57 PM
Randy's say-so isn't good enough for you?
I get the sense that you think what Randy says should be ingested with a small dose of a mineral?

Just now you get this sense?
Title: Re: Woolery's Departure from Wheel
Post by: tyshaun1 on July 03, 2021, 07:54:52 AM
Just now you get this sense?
I was trying to pull out WHY Chris C. is always casting doubt on Randy. I do have a birthday, but it wasn't yesterday.
Title: Re: Woolery's Departure from Wheel
Post by: chris319 on July 04, 2021, 03:06:19 AM
Just now you get this sense?
I was trying to pull out WHY Chris C. is always casting doubt on Randy. I do have a birthday, but it wasn't yesterday.

Not a small dose, but a huge mountain of NaCl.

I take issue with the account of Johnny Olson's demise published in his book. I worked at CNN at the time and we covered the story along with the trade publications. I talked to Randy about it before his book was published and he was dismissive, claiming he had researched it. If he had properly researched it, his published account would be closer to the truth than his fictional version. He has since posted an account that more closely resembles the actual events and which diverges from the published account in his book.

He now has zero credibility with me. When he tells you a story claiming insider knowledge, you have no idea if it has any basis in fact or is a fabrication.
Title: Re: Woolery's Departure from Wheel
Post by: tyshaun1 on July 04, 2021, 07:42:39 AM
Not a small dose, but a huge mountain of NaCl.

I take issue with the account of Johnny Olson's demise published in his book. I worked at CNN at the time and we covered the story along with the trade publications. I talked to Randy about it before his book was published and he was dismissive, claiming he had researched it. If he had properly researched it, his published account would be closer to the truth than his fictional version. He has since posted an account that more closely resembles the actual events and which diverges from the published account in his book.

He now has zero credibility with me. When he tells you a story claiming insider knowledge, you have no idea if it has any basis in fact or is a fabrication.
There IS a certain late host that Randy posts every year around his birthday about him having "anger issues" in the past and how it cost him a few jobs; which comes across as poor taste (IMO) since he obviously can't defend himself. One year, several people who had worked with him came across in his defense, essentially saying that he was nothing like how he was being portrayed. I think Randy tends to take certain peoples' point of view as gospel without actually taking into account all perspectives.
Title: Re: Woolery's Departure from Wheel
Post by: Kevin Prather on July 05, 2021, 02:45:21 AM
There IS a certain late host that Randy posts every year around his birthday about him having "anger issues" in the past and how it cost him a few jobs; which comes across as poor taste (IMO) since he obviously can't defend himself.

Is that Dick Clark you're referring to? I don't remember the last time Randy mentioned Clark's name without throwing in "oh btw he fired me lol".
Title: Re: Woolery's Departure from Wheel
Post by: tyshaun1 on July 05, 2021, 07:59:39 AM
Is that Dick Clark you're referring to? I don't remember the last time Randy mentioned Clark's name without throwing in "oh btw he fired me lol".
No, but he's another. The one I'm referring to has a birthday in December. If you search his page for that month, you'll find it as he's posted it every year for several years now.
Title: Re: Woolery's Departure from Wheel
Post by: SuperMatch93 on July 05, 2021, 08:37:48 AM
Is that Dick Clark you're referring to? I don't remember the last time Randy mentioned Clark's name without throwing in "oh btw he fired me lol".
No, but he's another. The one I'm referring to has a birthday in December. If you search his page for that month, you'll find it as he's posted it every year for several years now.

Checking his Facebook, the host appears to be Peter Tomarken, and the alluded to "anger issues and self-destructive behavior" will apparently be mentioned in his upcoming book.
Title: Re: Woolery's Departure from Wheel
Post by: Bryce L. on July 05, 2021, 09:30:27 AM
Is that Dick Clark you're referring to? I don't remember the last time Randy mentioned Clark's name without throwing in "oh btw he fired me lol".
No, but he's another. The one I'm referring to has a birthday in December. If you search his page for that month, you'll find it as he's posted it every year for several years now.

Checking his Facebook, the host appears to be Peter Tomarken, and the alluded to "anger issues and self-destructive behavior" will apparently be mentioned in his upcoming book.
Somehow doesn't surprise me in the least. Reminds me of a couple of moments I've seen on Press Your Luck where an audience member shouted an answer out, and the contestants heard it, and Peter responded by bellowing at the audience to "STOP IT!" in a manner I've never seen from any other host, before or since. I mean, he sounded legit pissed, like he was ready to stop tape right there, if he could've.
Title: Re: Woolery's Departure from Wheel
Post by: BillCullen1 on July 05, 2021, 10:02:15 AM
Okay, so the host did not show grace under pressure for one moment. It doesn't make him evil. When I saw a late host with anger issues, I thought, Survey says . . . Richard Dawson. But apparently not.
Title: Re: Woolery's Departure from Wheel
Post by: jage on July 05, 2021, 04:16:11 PM
I mean, Trebek had Telephone Jeopardy. Hardly anyone is entirely even-keeled 100% of the time.
Title: Re: Woolery's Departure from Wheel
Post by: calliaume on July 05, 2021, 04:43:19 PM
Somehow doesn't surprise me in the least. Reminds me of a couple of moments I've seen on Press Your Luck where an audience member shouted an answer out, and the contestants heard it, and Peter responded by bellowing at the audience to "STOP IT!" in a manner I've never seen from any other host, before or since. I mean, he sounded legit pissed, like he was ready to stop tape right there, if he could've.

Maybe it wasn't the first time that taping session. If you have to stop tape and replace a question because some idiot says the answer aloud, it's time consuming, annoying, and costs the contestant who actually knew the answer. I'm pretty sure studio audiences are told not to shout out answers during the warmup to every show, but some people can't help themselves.

When I attended The Money Maze, Alan Kalter made a point of telling the audience during the warmup we were allowed to physically root for the couples as they were running the maze... but we were not to make a sound. Sure enough, somebody said, "Go! Go!" during one of the runs for a prize; the contestants didn't win the prize, and Kalter made a point of saying that was why we had to be quiet.

*****

Getting back to the original subject, the Facebook thread I mentioned concerned Woolery's firing from WoF, which Randy said only happened after Fred Silverman was bounced from NBC--I was confused because Silverman was let go six months before Woolery's departure. Broadcasting had nothing about that one way or the other.

And the sources on the interwebs are so off--Wikipedia says in Sajak's entry that Merv told Silverman said he'd put a moratorium on taping WoF until Sajak was the host, citing Merv's book Merv: Making the Good Life Last as the source; the book says he gave NBC's daytime head ("who'd replaced Lin Bolen"--not mentioning Madeline David had been her actual replacement) that ultimatum instead, not Fred Silverman. (The book also says Chuck left on his own, and doesn't mention the salary dispute.) I'm not sure why NBC wouldn't have wanted Sajak as host given he'd done the Puzzlers pilot for the network the year before, but whatever.

So all of the principals surrounding Chuck's exit are gone except Chuck, and he probably isn't talking about it. All I can ascertain is Chuck was looking to hold down a talk show gig in 1981.
Title: Re: Woolery's Departure from Wheel
Post by: tyshaun1 on July 05, 2021, 06:41:47 PM
Somehow doesn't surprise me in the least. Reminds me of a couple of moments I've seen on Press Your Luck where an audience member shouted an answer out, and the contestants heard it, and Peter responded by bellowing at the audience to "STOP IT!" in a manner I've never seen from any other host, before or since. I mean, he sounded legit pissed, like he was ready to stop tape right there, if he could've.

And the sources on the interwebs are so off--Wikipedia says in Sajak's entry that Merv told Silverman said he'd put a moratorium on taping WoF until Sajak was the host, citing Merv's book Merv: Making the Good Life Last as the source; the book says he gave NBC's daytime head ("who'd replaced Lin Bolen"--not mentioning Madeline David had been her actual replacement) that ultimatum instead, not Fred Silverman. (The book also says Chuck left on his own, and doesn't mention the salary dispute.) I'm not sure why NBC wouldn't have wanted Sajak as host given he'd done the Puzzlers pilot for the network the year before, but whatever.

So all of the principals surrounding Chuck's exit are gone except Chuck, and he probably isn't talking about it. All I can ascertain is Chuck was looking to hold down a talk show gig in 1981.
I often believed that Merv liked to embellish his "discovering" Sajak because it was his first national show, since he had also done a "Press Your Luck" ESP based game in 1980 in addition to Puzzlers. I think any mention of him forcing the network's hand on hiring him is a bit facetious.
As for the previous post, he also threatened to "rip your chicken lips off" in another episode, saying it with a devilish smile. I think he thought of it as his smart-alecky persona at that point in the series.
Title: Re: Woolery's Departure from Wheel
Post by: beatlefreak84 on July 06, 2021, 12:59:54 AM
Somehow doesn't surprise me in the least. Reminds me of a couple of moments I've seen on Press Your Luck where an audience member shouted an answer out, and the contestants heard it, and Peter responded by bellowing at the audience to "STOP IT!" in a manner I've never seen from any other host, before or since. I mean, he sounded legit pissed, like he was ready to stop tape right there, if he could've.

I actually found a clip of said incident (I remembered the episode because it was one of the first ones I had recorded on VHS from when I was a kid!) and link to it below, but I honestly did not read it the same way as you did.  I originally found it funny, and I guess the showrunners must have as well, or they wouldn't have left it in the broadcast.

NOTE:  It's a point-and-shoot, but I couldn't find a better quality video of this episode, so I simply skipped to the question that leads to the incident (the actual incident is less than a minute):

https://youtu.be/P3nMXOsSyaI?t=258 (https://youtu.be/P3nMXOsSyaI?t=258)

Anthony
Title: Re: Woolery's Departure from Wheel
Post by: Kevin Prather on July 06, 2021, 03:16:41 AM
Somehow doesn't surprise me in the least. Reminds me of a couple of moments I've seen on Press Your Luck where an audience member shouted an answer out, and the contestants heard it, and Peter responded by bellowing at the audience to "STOP IT!" in a manner I've never seen from any other host, before or since. I mean, he sounded legit pissed, like he was ready to stop tape right there, if he could've.

I actually found a clip of said incident (I remembered the episode because it was one of the first ones I had recorded on VHS from when I was a kid!) and link to it below, but I honestly did not read it the same way as you did.  I originally found it funny, and I guess the showrunners must have as well, or they wouldn't have left it in the broadcast.

Seriously, that was 100% all in fun. And Bryce says he's never seen a host talk like that, he must have never seen an episode of Wheel of Fortune in his life.
Title: Re: Woolery's Departure from Wheel
Post by: tvwxman on July 06, 2021, 09:26:40 AM

I actually found a clip of said incident (I remembered the episode because it was one of the first ones I had recorded on VHS from when I was a kid!) and link to it below, but I honestly did not read it the same way as you did.  I originally found it funny, and I guess the showrunners must have as well, or they wouldn't have left it in the broadcast.

NOTE:  It's a point-and-shoot, but I couldn't find a better quality video of this episode, so I simply skipped to the question that leads to the incident (the actual incident is less than a minute):

https://youtu.be/P3nMXOsSyaI?t=258 (https://youtu.be/P3nMXOsSyaI?t=258)

Anthony

We had a debate over THAT? C'mon people .
Title: Re: Woolery's Departure from Wheel
Post by: Strikerz04 on July 06, 2021, 03:51:26 PM
Somehow doesn't surprise me in the least. Reminds me of a couple of moments I've seen on Press Your Luck where an audience member shouted an answer out, and the contestants heard it, and Peter responded by bellowing at the audience to "STOP IT!" in a manner I've never seen from any other host, before or since. I mean, he sounded legit pissed, like he was ready to stop tape right there, if he could've.

I actually found a clip of said incident (I remembered the episode because it was one of the first ones I had recorded on VHS from when I was a kid!) and link to it below, but I honestly did not read it the same way as you did.  I originally found it funny, and I guess the showrunners must have as well, or they wouldn't have left it in the broadcast.

NOTE:  It's a point-and-shoot, but I couldn't find a better quality video of this episode, so I simply skipped to the question that leads to the incident (the actual incident is less than a minute):

https://youtu.be/P3nMXOsSyaI?t=258 (https://youtu.be/P3nMXOsSyaI?t=258)

Anthony


Peter was a smart-aleck (sometimes?), but that didn't look like that was done out of anger. I would've done it the same way.
Title: Re: Woolery's Departure from Wheel
Post by: Chelsea Thrasher on July 08, 2021, 12:24:43 AM
Uploaded the episode to remove the potato effect, same timestamp:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwohhFnqOS0&t=261s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwohhFnqOS0&t=261s)

It's a nothing burger.  Just Peter having a little fun while chastising the audience to knock it off (a legit issue)
Title: Re: Woolery's Departure from Wheel
Post by: steveleb on July 09, 2021, 02:44:55 PM
Adding on:

Hittin Home was a shining example of how little station managers valued creatives.  Michael Krauss may be familiar as the aggressive manager husband of Joan Lunden, who was Katie Couric before there was Katie--the top-rated morning news lady who middle aged males in TV secretly wished they could boff.  Those connections got Michael to Post-Newsweek, who frequently dabbled in co-productions with syndicators because they owned some very successful traditional affiliates in "1A" markets like Detroit, Washington and Miami, among others.  Many syndication execs of the era (especially true of Group W) came from sales roles with these stations, so plans for shows like these were done over steak, whiskey and hookers, not in production offices.   Chuck was a known name who many of these execs' wives did have a crush on--and who didn't have a crush on Jo Ann Pflug?  Hire some schmuck to write hype copy like this, fly everybody to NATPE, and hope a similar round of steak, whiskey and hookers gets an O and O group sold.  Not this time.

If these elements look familiar:  America! was a very similar concept that did get produced, and was a massively expensive bomb.  Michael cast his missus in Everyday a couple of years after that--again the same concept of local news filler material interspersed with promo circuit gabbing--and also got the chance to fail.  The price after that was the falling apart of his marriage and the bankruptcy of the company.

And as for Randy--well while I own up to the fact that after a few decades I may misremember a few details on dates and markets I won't ever argue on social media that I'm right when I'm not nor will I constantly hype a tell-all book with the sincerity of a certain former president he doesn't miss the chance to find the time to knock while he hypes his book?

Maybe Randy should write a tell-all about how he honestly feels about certain friends he chooses to worship in at times questionable ways?

Just sayin...
Title: Re: Woolery's Departure from Wheel
Post by: tvwxman on July 09, 2021, 05:47:56 PM
Adding on:

Hittin Home was a shining example of how little station managers valued creatives.  Michael Krauss may be familiar as the aggressive manager husband of Joan Lunden, who was Katie Couric before there was Katie--the top-rated morning news lady who middle aged males in TV secretly wished they could boff.  Those connections got Michael to Post-Newsweek, who frequently dabbled in co-productions with syndicators because they owned some very successful traditional affiliates in "1A" markets like Detroit, Washington and Miami, among others.  Many syndication execs of the era (especially true of Group W) came from sales roles with these stations, so plans for shows like these were done over steak, whiskey and hookers, not in production offices.   Chuck was a known name who many of these execs' wives did have a crush on--and who didn't have a crush on Jo Ann Pflug?  Hire some schmuck to write hype copy like this, fly everybody to NATPE, and hope a similar round of steak, whiskey and hookers gets an O and O group sold.  Not this time.

If these elements look familiar:  America! was a very similar concept that did get produced, and was a massively expensive bomb.  Michael cast his missus in Everyday a couple of years after that--again the same concept of local news filler material interspersed with promo circuit gabbing--and also got the chance to fail.  The price after that was the falling apart of his marriage and the bankruptcy of the company.

And as for Randy--well while I own up to the fact that after a few decades I may misremember a few details on dates and markets I won't ever argue on social media that I'm right when I'm not nor will I constantly hype a tell-all book with the sincerity of a certain former president he doesn't miss the chance to find the time to knock while he hypes his book?

Maybe Randy should write a tell-all about how he honestly feels about certain friends he chooses to worship in at times questionable ways?

Just sayin...

Best post of the week. So many teachable moments in this. Thank you Steve L!